Ammunition

The 5.7 x 28mm FN Cartridge — One hot bottleneck!

FN Five-seveN right with magazine

After more than 20 years as a lawdog, I learned two things. First, bring enough gun to the fight. Second, keep an open mind. The FN Five-seveN demands an open mind; it is different from anything I have thought of using. The innovative handgun features a polymer frame and aluminum slide. It fires a hot bottleneck cartridge that generates unheard of high velocity from a handgun barrel—and a service length barrel at that.

The pistol and the cartridge are the result of a NATO program to develop a short-range personal defense weapon (PDW) for use by couriers and other personnel not normally engaged in frontline combat. From the pistol to the M1 carbine and stocked pistols, this requirement has been met in various ways. The maker recoups investment costs by offering a version to the public, and we scoop up a good product. Based purely on excellence of design and reliability, the FN Five-seveN is a winner.

The cartridge—the original 5.7 x 28mm loading, was intended to generate over 2,000 fps with a 28- to 31-grain bullet. The bullet was a steel core design. It was intended to penetrate body armor. Since recoil is a consideration for a fully automatic firearm, recoil control was handled by using a medium-power cartridge.

Recoil is light from the full-size PDW, and you are able to stitch up an attacker quickly. While fully automatic fire is most useful for firing at moving targets and dynamic entry, the defensive side is well served by a short, light, fully automatic weapon. When chambered in the lightweight 20-ounce Five Seven pistol, recoil is about half that of the 9mm Luger. The Five Seven pistol feels similar to the Beretta 92 in the hand, but much lighter. The FN pistol is a single-action design.

A lightweight, fast-handling handgun with a 20-round magazine capacity has much to recommend. The original penetrator cartridge is restricted and not available to civilians. It is tightly controlled even when purchased by law enforcement agencies. This is understandable. For hunting or personal defense the steel core penetrator load would be at the bottom of my list.

Today, there are civilian loads using both a standard FMJ loading and the V Max bullet. The original loading received its penetration from the steel core that simply does not give. A FMJ bullet of the conventional design will not offer this high degree of penetration. The pistol’s appeal to civilians might be the same as the Colt Single Action chambered for the .22 Hornet, or the Smith and Wesson .22 Jet revolver.

Here is a hot .22 centerfire for hunting small game and varmints. Flat shooting, accurate, and easy to handle, this handgun has much merit. The 5.7 x 28mm cartridge works much better than the earlier hot .22s with less fuss and bother. The semi-automatic action offers complete reliability. The hot .22s were prone to set back during firing, locking the revolver up. If you like the .22 Hornet, you will love the 5.7 x 28mm, strange as it may seem. So, the traditionalist and modern tactical shooter may find merit in this hot bottleneck.

Accuracy

The Five-seveN pistol is a light handgun but stable when firing for accuracy. A competent handgunner may make life hard for coyote well past 50 yards. I would say an accomplished handgunner might connect with the mangy dogs at 100 yards. Recoil isn’t a consideration; the trigger is good, and the sights adequate. Firing off of the benchrest for accuracy at 25 yards and pressing the rather nice trigger for a five shot group, results were excellent.

The Federal American Eagle loading will group five shots into less than two inches and the FN 40-grain V Max load is almost as accurate—1.8 inches for the Federal load versus 2.0 inches for the FN loading. Perhaps, with more time, I might do a little better, but this is encouraging. Again, I am perhaps off the deep end but this pistol, designed for tactical use, strikes me as a fine varmint gun.

For anyone needing a personal defense cartridge with light recoil fired from a proven accurate and reliable platform, the Five Seven Pistol and the 5.7 x 28mm cartridge are attractive. The pistol’s safety location and size work against concealed carry, and this isn’t the best choice. For home or area defense, the pistol has more merit.

As for wound ballistics the cartridge has greater power than the .22 Magnum. The .22 Magnum isn’t enough for personal defense. What was NATO thinking? They were thinking they needed a cartridge that would penetrate body armor and which would be controllable from a PDW spitting out a dozen rounds with a single touch of the trigger. It is much easier to use a short firearm and get a squirt into the target that it is to make a single hit with a 9mm pistol.

If for any reason you cannot handle the 9mm, the 5.7 x 28 is an alternative. It is flat shooting, accurate, and a joy to fire. I think the majority of users who purchase the Five-seveN pistol and its unique ammunition will find the combination a pleasure to use and fire, plink, and target shoot with. Few will find a practical application that isn’t covered better by another handgun. But do not sell the Five-seveN short; as a disaster gun it has much merit.

My spouse has difficulty firing a powerful handgun for several reasons, and I would like for her to have something larger than a .380 ACP and more useful. She is able to pepper a target—or multiple targets—quickly with the Five-seveN. Another good point, even with FMJ loads, the caliber isn’t overly penetrative in the home. We may be on to something.

[bob]

About the Author:

Bob Campbell

Bob Campbell’s primary qualification is a lifelong love of firearms, writing, and scholarship. He holds a degree in Criminal Justice but is an autodidact in matters important to his readers. Campbell considers unarmed skills the first line of defense and the handgun the last resort. (He gets it honest- his uncle Jerry Campbell is in the Boxer’s Hall of Fame.)

Campbell has authored well over 6,000 articles columns and reviews and fourteen books for major publishers including Gun Digest, Skyhorse and Paladin Press. Campbell served as a peace officer and security professional and has made hundreds of arrests and been injured on the job more than once.

He has written curriculum on the university level, served as a lead missionary, and is desperately in love with Joyce. He is training his grandchildren not to be snowflakes. At an age when many are thinking of retirement, Bob is working a 60-hour week and awaits being taken up in a whirlwind many years in the future.


Published in
Black Belt Magazine
Combat Handguns
Handloader
Rifle Magazine
Handguns
Gun Digest
Gun World
Tactical World
SWAT Magazine
American Gunsmith
Gun Tests Magazine
Women and Guns
The Journal Voice of American Law Enforcement
Police Magazine
Law Enforcement Technology
The Firearms Instructor
Tactical World
Concealed Carry Magazine
Concealed Carry Handguns



Books published

Holsters for Combat and Concealed Carry
The 1911 Automatic Pistol
The Handgun in Personal Defense
The Illustrated Guide to Handgun Skills
The Hunter and the Hunted
The Gun Digest Book of Personal Defense
The Gun Digest Book of the 1911
The Gun Digest Book of the 1911 second edition
Dealing with the Great Ammunition Shortage
Commando Gunsmithing
The Ultimate Book of Gunfighting
Preppers Guide to Rifles
Preppers Guide to Shotguns
The Accurate Handgun
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Comments (26)

  1. 22 TCM is a product from ARMSCOR. They offer single and double stack 1911 pistols as well as adapters kits for Glock pistols and a bolt action rifle. Their 22 TCM round is a shortened .223 case bottle neck that runs 2000 fps from 5 inch barrel with the felt recoil of a 22 LR.
    Youtube has several videos of its performance Last month at the local range, two people tried a few rounds down range and went out and asked about buying one right there. It is fun on the range and explodes small vermin.

  2. Wish more companies made the rounds…Federal is the only one…they make the FN ammo as well if I heard/read correctly…might bring the price of shooting these things down.

    1. Right now only FNH, hornady as I understand, and Federal make the round. The federal rounds are a little cheaper but have a lower FPS, for the price difference I will stay with the FNH version. The price of the rounds isn’t too bad, less than 5.56, at $20-$27 per 50count box. I have a AR-5.7, 50 round p90mag, that I have paired with the pistol.

  3. Having owned a 5,7×28 mm pistol for several years. I love it. I can carry it concealed and it will not print. No problem finding Ammo at all. Lost count on rounds fired after about 2000. One important thing. Have never had a miss fire or jammed up weapon. 25 to 100 Yards not a problem. Past a 100 Yards requires a bench rest. This weapons loves to be kept clean, and thrives on Lucas Gun Oil. In a self defense position? I would be hard pressed to use another weapon. You can run but you are not fast enough to our run this bad boy.

    1. Have you tried the AR-5.7 yet? AR-15 lower P90 mag closed bolt and the mag well is now you ejection port.

    2. Hey Riker, I will carry nothing but my 5.7. For a carry piece, i concider ease of handling, number of rounds and overall accuracy. My Sig MK25 fits my hand a little better. But the light weight and ease of handling puts the rounds on target. As a PDW, I find it comforting to carry in a CQC event. With this weapon, suppressive fire can give one extra time to X-fil. Longer range engagement is another option to actually shooting someone. The best handgun available today for PDW. Postive in the area of over penetration as well.

  4. I wanted one too. Was saving for one when they were $600 to $700 back in 2007.
    Then the idiot Major Hasan used one to attack soldiers at Fort Hood TX and the price doubled overnight.
    Now out of my price range. Plus Ammo has been scarce and expensive.
    Have had other priorities. But still, maybe someday. ????

  5. “generates unheard of high velocity from a handgun barrel”

    No. Generates high velocity from a machine gun, or other rifle length barrel. From a handgun, not much more than a .22 Magnum. First time I shot one, there was next to no recoil, but a TREMENDOUS flame from the front of the pistol. That’s all that “unheard of high velocity” gone to waste. I thought the gun had exploded.

    I also shot the armor piercing rounds, the copper jacketed rounds, and some with a red tip. Don’t remember which one, but one of them hit about 8″ below the point of aim, unlike the other two.

    Want a hot .22? Buy a .22 Magnum, for about a third of the FN 5.7 handgun price.

  6. Armscor has 1911 single and double stack magazine, 4 & 5 inch barrel models as well as a rifle. They also sell a slide/barrel for Glock 17.
    All are at what I call affordable prices. $850 pistol $450 rifle
    Cases can be cut down .223 cases and single pass through dies.

    1. You’re thinking of the 22TCM. It is a hot 22 round that is based on a 223 Remington case cut down in size.
      5.7 is a special case that is longer and skinnier than 22TCM. The rounds are too long to fit in a 1911 or glock, the Fn 5.7 pistol has a very long grip to fit them. I don’t know of any other pistol that fits the 5.7 round.

  7. Pretty fast little bullet! What kind of energy are we talking about? And how difficult is it to find ammo at say…..Walmart? If Walmart doesn’t carry it, then Handloads are in order.

    1. Wikipedia

      22TCM

      Type
      Pistol/Rifle

      Production history

      Designer
      Fred Craig

      Specifications

      Parent case
      5.56×45mm NATO

      Case type
      Rimless bottleneck

      Bullet diameter
      .223 in (5.7 mm)

      Base diameter
      0.376 in (9.6 mm)

      Rim diameter
      0.378 in (9.6 mm)

      Rim thickness
      0.045 in (1.1 mm)

      Case length
      1.022 in (26.0 mm)

      Overall length
      1.265 in (32.1 mm)

      Ballistic performance

      Bullet weight/type

      Velocity

      Energy

      40 gr (3 g) Pointed flat nose 2,800 ft/s (850 m/s) 392 ft·lbf (531 J)

  8. I wan 1 in the worst way!!! But at the prices they are i stick to carrying my 1911 FS 10mm!!

    1. @ James Perkey.

      Depending on where you go? But usually about 38 Cents/Round…

    2. I meant the cost of the gun!! I reload all my own so ammo is not a selling point for me!

    3. @ James Perkey.

      Of which particular Gun Sir? The Five-seven, the PS-90 Carbine, the 5.7 Johnson Spitfire, the Model 888, the Upper Receiver AR-57, WHICH?

  9. 22TCM is an option fired from a 1911 from Rock Island Armory aka ARMSCOR. Factory loads claim 2000 fps 40 grain jacketed hollow point. I reload with LilGun and the 40 grain bullet for 2030 fps. The pistol comes with a 9mm barrel for 9×19 rounds.
    Several post on UTUBE shows it passes through level 3 body armor, 3/8 steel plate, and explodes water melons, and many more. 18 +1 in a 1911 in steel with recoil I feel about the same as a 22LR from my Ruger 22 mk1.
    They also have a rifle for the same round at 2800 fps.

  10. The 5.7×28 is basically a lighter version of the .223 Remington/5.56 NATO cartridge, so it makes sense that the two share similar strengths. Unfortunately, until there’s more than a single rifle and pistol using the cartridge we’re unlikely to see broader availability of ammunition.

    As to the FN pistol itself, what was FN thinking with the placement of that safety lever? It’s not as it they don’t have solid previous experience making single-action pistols.

    1. Try the Sandy Gun Works 5.7 Johnson “Spitfire” (M1 Carbine) chambered in 5.7x28FN. IAI, also makes the M1 Carbine conversion called the Model 888…

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