.22 Conversions — Good Practice or Making Brass?

Young woman in white t-shirt and pink ear protection shooting a black AR-15 with CMMG .22 caliber conversion on a green grassy area with wooded area in the background.

One of my associates recently showed off his brand new AR-15 type rifle at the firing range. The difference between that rifle and the others on the range —it was chambered for the .22 Long Rifle cartridge. He bragged about how the stock, sights and firing mechanism mimicked his .223 so closely that he was able to practice tactical rifle shooting for a pittance. I nodded my head, put the eyes and ears on and began firing my Daniel Defense .223 caliber rifle. My cohort busily ripped through a brick of .22-caliber ammunition.

AR-15 with CMMG .22 caliber conversion
It looks like a Bushmaster, but this AR-15 is being fired with the CMMG .22 caliber conversion, not only good practice, it’s great fun.

Since the cost ratio is about 10.5 to 1 between the rimfire and centerfire, he had a good time. As I loaded my fourth 20-round magazine, he had nearly used six boxes of Winchester Wildcat—among my own favorite loads. Occasionally, the bolt failed to close, and his immediate action drills did not always do the business. Once or twice, he actually broke the bullet, skewing the heel-based bullet at an angle common with the .22 caliber rifle. And that is what the piece is—bottom line, this is a .22 caliber rifle.

After 400 rounds, this stalwart fellow grunted under his breath, “Guess I better clean it.” Simply squirting lube in the chamber would not do the trick. I hope he knew how to detail-strip the piece. I picked up my brass and left the range—my cohort was free from policing his brass. Not being overly nosy, but always aware of my surroundings, I noticed this erstwhile shooter had not accomplished much during his range trip. He primarily made brass.

Making Brass

Making brass is shooting without a purpose. I am all for recreational shooting, and I also hunt with the .22. It is a fine cartridge, as are many of the firearms that chamber the humble .22 rimfire. But there are certain rules governing the .22.

Shooting a Walther P22
The Walther P22 is one of the most popular handguns in America—A great choice for all around practice.

One of those is that it is not a scaled-down .223, .308 or 9mm, or whatever you are used to using. It is a case by itself.

Those who move from the .30-06 to the .308, from the .223 to the .204, or upward in caliber may do so more or less seamlessly. The rules are the same. That is not the case with the .22. Both the cartridge and firearms are significantly different. In deference to the popularity of the new breed of .22-caliber trainer, I am discussing the .22 as a trainer, primarily, and touching upon the important mechanical and practical aspects of shooting the rimfire.

We must imagine the rimfire purchase was for economy. The shooter who purchases the new .22 caliber shadow of the AR-15, the Glock-style or the 1911 is a different shooter. In the past, those wishing to own a .22 usually began shooting with the .22 rimfire. They learned the ins and outs of the .22 as their first firearm. Inexpensive and friendly, the .22 is overall a good learning experience.

Practicing with a SIG 1911-22
The SIG 1911-22 is another great all-around .22.

For many, the .22 was their first, and only, gun for some time. As an example, one of my grandfathers kept a pistol for defense and a shotgun for hunting, while his only rifle was a .22. He passed his long life without owning a centerfire rifle. Today the situation is reversed.

Those who purchased a centerfire rifle or pistol for one reason or the other are turning to the .22 for economical shooting. Unless they are cognizant of the trade-offs involved, chances are they will accomplish little other than making brass. First, let’s look at the cartridge itself.

The Roots

The .22 Long Rifle is a hoary old round with roots going back some 150 years. While there have been improvements in powder technology, the cartridge remains pretty much the same as ever, as far as priming and bullet technology. The bullet is a heel-based design, which means the bullet is of the same diameter as the cartridge case.

There is a rebated section in the end of the bullet that fits into the cartridge case. This design works well enough for manually operated firearms, although it is not ideal for self-loaders. The bullet sometimes becomes twisted and bent at the case mouth. Many shooters venturing into .22 caliber territory do not realize this and find that immediate action drills, rather than clearing the cartridge, results in further jamming the cartridge.

Slamming the bolt home does not work. You must clear the malfunction and discard the cartridge, rather than shoving the cartridge into the chamber. You cannot manhandle .22 cartridges. Those who grew up on the .22 realize this. Today, fewer and fewer cops, soldiers and personal-defense shooters are familiar with the .22. They may not have discovered that, often enough, a 50-round brick of ammunition will have a bent bullet or two.

Practicing marksmanship with a silver Walther P22
With the Walther P22 in hand, this young woman is learning the basics of marksmanship.

Another tradeoff in the .22 is that the powder–specifically designed for rifle use–is often dirtier than centerfire cartridges when fired in handguns. Even when used in rifles, .22 caliber ammunition is dirtier than centerfire loads.

We must address the cleaning needs of the .22. A rule of thumb is that 300 rounds of .22 are about all we may expect to fire between cleanings. And we mean a thorough cleaning, followed by appropriate lubrication. If you are not up to this regimen, be ready for stoppages.

Unburned powder, and even lead shavings, become a problem after a few hundred rounds. Unlike the .223 rifle or 9mm pistol, you cannot keep shooting for hundreds or even thousands of rounds without cleaning. I have often stated that I would not give houseroom to a shooting iron that would not go 1,000 rounds without cleaning. That attitude will not prevail with the rimfire.

The .22 caliber bullet is self-lubricating, and the lubricant is on the outside of the bullet. While the action becomes quite dirty, the bore seldom needs cleaning. In fact, we are advised not to clean the bore at all. However, there is another problem that comes up even with the best of the .22 caliber conversion units. When you use a quality .22 caliber conversion unit—such as the CMMG version that I often plug into the Bushmaster—cleaning is minimal and performance excellent.

On the other hand, lead bullets clog the gas port and possibly the tube. Taking down the gas tube and port is not something we normally do when cleaning the AR-15, although you had best learn how, and quickly. At some point, you need to make the choice of a conversion unit, such as the CMMG, or a dedicated .22 caliber firearm.

.22 or Full Bore

The choices aren’t as simple as they first appear. From a pure training objective, the conversion is a good choice. The dedicated firearm gives us a separate, and equally useful, firearm as an assistant to the centerfire. As an example, a young cop on a budget may spend a little more money for a quality .22 AR-15. He then has a spare firearm he leaves at home for home defense.

At present, unless you spend the money for the first-class Kimber .22 caliber 1911, the 1911 .22s simply do not compare with a quality 1911 and conversion unit. The Ruger .22/45 is not a 1911, but it is certainly a usable trainer. Quite a few of the AR-15 conversions are not purpose-designed at all; they are simply adaptations of economy rifles.

Black Ruger .22/45
It doesn’t get any better than the Ruger .22/45 for all-around rimfire practice.

If you own a revolver and use the .357 for personal defense, the Taurus 94 or Taurus Tracker is an affordable choice. Mull things over first, then choose. The important consideration is to understand the tradeoffs when using the .22 for practice, and then to live with them. With the need to clean the firearm and the different dynamics of malfunction clearance firmly understood, we are ready to address .22-caliber training.

Too often, shooters who intended to undertake meaningful practice with the rimfire end up simply making brass or plinking. The key is to practice as you fight, and that is to practice in the same manner as with the centerfire firearm. When you are firing the .22, grip the firearm in the same manner as you would if using a centerfire. Keep the 1911 .22 in a good strong grip, and use the two-hand hold whenever possible.

When using the .22 caliber rifle, keep the firearm in close to the shoulder and keep a good hold using proven techniques. Do not use a softer hold simply because you can. There is little to no recoil with the .22, and we may become lazy in handling the firearm. Do not allow yourself to do so. Keep the firearm gripped tightly, and use the .22 in training as if your life depended upon it. Remember, simple marksmanship training is not the same as combat training, and this new bunch of rifles are intended for combat training. With this understood, you may now undertake combat drills. So what drills should you undertake with the .22? The same as you use with the centerfire.

Taurus small frame revolver with black knobby grip
If you own a revolver, the Taurus small frame revolver is a fine option.

You are training for what may occur, not what you wish may occur. Building skill demands credible exercises, but we do not wish to outpace ourselves. It is quite easy to quickly master the .22 and become a better shot with the .22 than the centerfire. While a good goal for target shooting, the tactical shooter will avoid mastering the rimfire over the centerfire.

We wish to produce the same results as with the centerfire, but no better, while maintaining the constant climb in proficiency. We are learning sight picture, sight alignment and trigger compression with the .22. When we address a target, it is easy enough to put four .22s into the X-ring in the time it takes to work up two .223 caliber hits.

What you need to do is to develop a cadence of fire. The cadence of fire with a centerfire firearm is set not by how quickly we are able to press the trigger but how quickly we are able to control recoil and realign the sights. We do not spray and pray; we make every shot count. With the .22, the recoil control component of the equation, cadence, is often left out. We simply cannot do that.

Silver Ruger Hunter
This Ruger Hunter is a good pistol for practice but also for small-game hunting.

We must be certain to control the firearm; use a proper firing grip or hold and devote enough time to trigger compression and sight alignment and sight picture. Of course, you can shoot faster with the .22, although you should not because this builds bad habits with the centerfire. This will cause us to attempt to run a course in record time with the .22 that we simply cannot run as quickly with the centerfire.

We will be firing the .22 more often due to simple economics. A good ratio is 10 rounds of .22 for every centerfire round, wrapping up every practice section with a few centerfire rounds. We can learn to fire the firearm well and be a first-class marksman or combat shooter as we prefer with the .22, but we must learn to control recoil with the centerfire.

Using rimfires for practice as a limited substitute for centerfire firearms is a time-proven asset. The German Luger was among the first service pistols made available with a rimfire conversion, and gallery adaptors were manufactured for the Springfield 1903 rifle. While there are trade-offs in using .22s for practice, the bottom line is that for both economy and proficiency, there are real advantages.

Training with the .22 in Earnest

Shooting the Walther P22
My friend Priscilla is tearing up the X-ring with the Walther P22.

At handgun distances, there is little difference between the .22 and the centerfire as far as target acquisition and range. We will practice close range drills inside of seven yards and build gun-handling and manipulation skills. We also will practice firing from behind cover and at the center of mass. When we use the rifle, it is obvious that we are not going to be firing the .22 at more than 100 yards.

Steel reaction targets that are set for the .223 will not budge when hit with a 40-grain .22. Fortunately, Mike Gibson Manufacturing (MGM) produces a neat little .22 pepper popper that is affordable and able to withstand thousands of rounds of .22 caliber ammunition. The MGM device means you can stay sharp and keep rolling with the .22. Reduced silhouette targets for the .22 also are available and do a good job of simulating a 100-yard marksmanship problem at 25 yards.

How about you? Have you trained with the .22? What were your results? Share in the comments section.


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Comments (17)

  1. My father taught me to shoot with his Winchester 69A bolt action 22LR. I still have the Winchester to this day some 53 years later and it shoots like a charm. I’ve taught my wife and my son to shoot with the same rifle. I still shoot 22 using either one of two Browning Buckmark pistols, a Challenger, a Ruger Single Six. or one of 3 .22 semi auto rifles an a couple of bolt guns. The Browning SA22 is an excellent semi .22. Fun to shoot, accurate and a real looker, not to mention a takedown rifle.

    .22s are great for putting meat on the table. The ammo is out there, but it isn’t cheap. What is anymore? My center fire rifles are primarily used for hunting including an AR in 6.8 SPCII. My other AR is a self defense rifle and is set up as such. At the range I only use 10 round magazines and go for accuracy rather than the amount of lead I can waste.

    I don’t reload and have never been one to spray and pray regardless the caliber. I concentrate on accuracy and follow on shots. The same goes with my handguns. I hunt with two of my .22 pistols. My centerfire pistols are either carry pieces, target pistols, or collectables.

    Of all the weapons I own I still enjoy the .22LR and .22WMR. The 17HMR and 17WSM also fall into the rimfire mix. If I intend to practice with an AR I use a centerfire AR. The same goes with my .45ACP pistols. Weapons are tools and every tool has a purpose. The .22LR pistol and rifle are special tools that happen to be a lot of fun to plink with as well as hunt. No matter how old I get that will never change. As far as I know it’s still the most popular round in the world. I don’t see that changing for a long, long time. JMHO

  2. Considering this contrived shortage of 22 long rifle ammo, is there a way to reload them? I have rifle powder and with a set of dies and bullets I’d be in business. Can you buy primed cases? My Kimber 22 conversion kit cost almost as much as my Rock Island 1911 but it seemed like a good deal at the time because you could find 22 long rifle ammo. Now they’re like trying to find chickens with teeth. Hank

  3. Update:

    Now that .223/5.56 & 9 mm/.40 S&W/.45 ACP ammo is in better supply, I see a whole lot of younger, sprayers & pray-ers at the indoor range blasting away at 25 yards like they are warding off hoards of zombie Taliban. It makes no difference to them what cartridge they are shooting, they shoot just to make noise and see how many times & how quickly they can hit papar from their high-cap mags. Talk about “making brass”!!

    The most annoying part is that they are shooting indoors with 16″ barrels, many of them with muzzle breaks. Plugs & muffs barely suppress the muzzle-blast to acceptable levels unless you are several lanes away. They will realize their folly later when they realize their hearing loss, burned-out barrels (not that that matters to them, I doubt that they are even aware of how to inspect and/or clean their weapons), and how much $$ they racked up on their credit cards to pay for a few minutes of spraying.

    This past Saturday, there was a guy shooting a Ruger Mini-14 with a real suppressor on it. He was in the lane next to me, and the suppressor made the .223 sound like a 9 mm or 40 S&W. Come on now, how effecive is that?! For the price of the suppressor & license, he could have purchased a really nice AR and/or handguns with $$ left over to feed them, or a couple thousand rounds for the Mini-14. His choice, so I really have no say.

    This seems to be the trend with the younger generation of shooters: Bristle the AR (or whatever) with all the accessories, add lasers & dot sights to the handguns, buy up all the ammo that is available, and go blasting, making sure there is just a huge pile of brass to be swept away, or picked up by reloaders like me. Yes, I am stereotyping, but if the shoe fits . . . I call these youngsters (& older newbies), “Fodder”.

    I told my buddy, Sam Elliot’s line in “We Were Soldiers” (referring to the then new M-16), that after the real shooting begins, (paraphrasing) “there will be plenty of rifles available to pick up.”

    Stay safe, shoot responsibly and practice real Gun Control (consistently & effectively hit what you are aiming at with real purpose) – whether a .22 LR or a .50 BMG, and everything in between.

  4. Very well written article! I’ve been shooting for about 35 years now and I picked up a few insights into the .22 from this article.

    I prefer to supplement dry fire practice rather than shoot .22 (although I always bring along my Ruger 22/45 for fun to supplement my usual 40 cal training.

    I have found that first time shooters – especially women, greatly prefer using my Walther P22 over a larger, center-fire pistol. Once they have built their confidence and basic skills, they have less timidity/reluctance to shooting the larger calibers.

    It’s a great little round – when you can find them. ;->

  5. Interesting article. The issue of just creating brass is a valid one. I’ve had problems getting 22 cal ammunition with the tight squeeze on ammo the last few years and have actually put the 22 to bed.

    I handload, and cast my own bullets and shoot centerfire every once in a while, but for training purposes I have gone to Air Soft like some of the military has. I have also purchased BB guns for practice in my rifle fire, and that has been extremely helpful.

    Because of diminishing eyesight, I have had to look at utilizing new and innovated–and fun ways to train. For example, with AirSoft, I have been doing a lot of hip shooting and point shooting. Techniques that really shine in a combat environment. I also practice both morning and night with point shooting using a S&W Model 640 snub and a Crimson Trace Laser Sight on my bedroom wall.

    This is a wonderful way of practicing your hand eye coordination without actually wasting bullets.

    And while it is true that you periodically should shoot your primary carry weapons, it is also true that you can do 90% of your training–effectively without ever having to fire a live round.

    In the past, I have also loaded the excellent plastic bullets with merely the use of primers. This is an outstanding way of practicing with your primary weapon. The bad news however is that it is a pain if you have a semi auto.

    There are three points that the above makes: 1)First you have to decide exactly what kind of training you are interested in doing, and 2) you have to fit your practice to maximize your training effectiveness. 3) You can do 90% of the above without ever firing a shot.

  6. This might be good practice if a person can find a reliable source of inexpensive .22 Long Rifle ammunition. As it stands now, buying a brick of .22 will cost anywhere from $40 to $100, if you can find them. Most of the local sporting goods stores in my area have not had any for months, but they got everything else, .223, 5.56, .17HMR, etc. Some online retailers offer .22’s for sale, but when you go to their site to buy some, they are consistently sold out, with no back orders allowed, or they will not ship them. Sure, .22 firearms are available, but without the ammo to feed them, they are nothing more than ‘safe queens’.

  7. Shake hands with another jungle bunny. ’68-70. Me 66. 11th armoured. High-Ho Silver. I mean Hi-Ho Black. Same’O Sam’O, ditto, ditto . I was born 2 guns? Ancestor was gunsmith to King of Sweden? or who cares? An old chain letter my mom has said so. Always Wondered where that blood came from. A Little German & American Indian. Practice,practice,practice. Consume that ammo (But, You’ve Got to Reload?). Have all that stuff, cheap when got, not now. My wheel weight barrells are full of water from the recent rain. I’ll have to shoot holes to let the water out before they rust. Police Range close, only few blocks away. Don’t like giving them my pristine brass 4 free; No, No, No!. So, I don’t go there much. Kids live in Henderson, NV. Belong to Front Sight near Boulder city. Instruck there winter time; 2 hot Summer time. Then, I sleep. Wife there now, me not. Stuff 2 do. Do you have a callous on your Trigger Finger yet?. Ha, Ha. Believe it or not, I got one from driving a stick shift car 4 20yrs. 3rd. finger right hand, 2nd. joint. Also broke it long ago. Had 2 learn regipping gun after that without that finger. Doesn’t bother now. Took 4 ever 2 get callous 2 go away. Used battery acid then, sand paper; worked great.

  8. First .22 @ 7yrs, Marlin tube fed, I think, or, Win. gallery gun. still have it, got to go look?. Then, Ruger 10/22 in high school. Then walther pp in .32 acp @ dept store. 1911 from Police supply house my area. Got .22 Ace conversion kit @ a gun store said was broke for $50.00 off. Firing pin stuck in. Took flat punch gave it a whack. 3-in 1 oil, fine valve grinding compound; gave it a workout. never problem since. Added .38 Super & 9mm kits to the 1911 roster. All that stuff Big Bucks now, but not back then. Threw in several parts kits since then from gun shows. I learned to shoot with both eyes open (Left eye Dominate). Both hands, double slide stops, mag. drops. Just tip my head a little. Adden my own iron Trinatron front and rear sights. Point of aim 25 ft. Later, clamped slide in vice, peened slide rails, squeezed slide till it hollard. Added; here we go, 3-in-1 oil, fine valve grinding compound; got it started on frame & beat it back & forth 100 times with rubber Mallet. Took a whole weekend. Still very tight after how many reloads? Couldn’t even guess?.

  9. I concur. My first conversion unit was a Chiener .22LR for my 1911 frame purchased over 20 years ago. I now have conversion units for other 1911’s and m4 type AR’s. I’m a dedicated shooter and have been trained to arms for over 60 years. The gist of the article is to use common (often not so common) sense when training with these very useful conversions and realize their limitations. Do not expect target rifle accuracy with anybody’s .22LR conversion in your AR with a barrel designed for .223/5.56 ammo. The common rate of twist to stabilize a 36 to 40 grain .22LR is 1/16 while the .223/5.56 rates are much faster, commonly 1/10 to 1/7. The conversion unit for the 1911 is a dedicated slide change out so the rate of twist is correct and the feel of the frame and the trigger squeeze is the same for both calibers. The common sense part is knowing that drill timing will change according to your sensitivity to perceived recoil and point of impact between calibers will also change. As was suggested, shoot the .22LR for the bulk of your training, but also follow up with the standard center fire ammo before you quit to note the effects on your timing, accuracy, etc. At short range (inside 15 yards), my firearms hit within a 3-inch circle regardless, but I shoot a couple of hundred rounds every month.

  10. I am 71 years old and have been shooting for 55+ years. I am also a Vietnam combat veteran. I have several center fire pistols, and two .22 pistols. One .22 emulates the 1911 and the other one the M9. My center fire pistols are 380, 9mm, 45, and 357 sig.
    I go shooting once a week. Each week I shoot 150 rounds of .22 at 5-7 yards. Generally there are no shots out of the 9 ring, and the center of the target is a good size hole. I practice quick sight acquisition and trigger pull.
    Once a month I alternate bringing one of my center fire pistols. When I bring that pistol, I shoot it first. Usually just one or two magazines are fired. Generally they are as good as my .22 shooting. They need to be as good. In a real life defensive situations you don’t get 50 rounds to adjust your shooting. No matter what gun or what caliber you better be able to hit that 9 ring right from the start and often.
    Cleaning is a pain. But I clean every gun after every shooting. If you are lazy this message is not for you.

  11. My first .22, A Ruger 10-22/.22 cal. Bought it at a dept. store chain that no longer exists. Came with 1 cylindrical 10 rnd. box magazine. Mag not visible outside gun. Many yrs. later, a hundred bricks of .22’s; still shooting. Slight peening on bolt face (minor). Used standard lr rounds until bought 25 rnd. banana mags. Started shooting CCI mini-mags. Worked fine in fact. mag.; not in 25 rounder. Had to take them apart and open up and polish on the inside to avoid binding going around the bend. Had a hairline crack in bolt; drilled @ end/s of crack and elect. welded shut @ ground off flat. Polished inside of receiver, bolt, spring rod and trigger. Impossible to tie it up. Looking at it now by front door. Loaded, no kids, (empty nest) .30 cal. flash hider, 25 rnd. mag., Uncle Mikes’ sling swivels. Also, try the .22 ACE CONVERSION KIT 4 THE 1911. Have 3 kits, .22, .38 Super & 9mm.

  12. Very interesting, insightful & comprehensive article. Well done, Mr. Campbell.

    Appropriately, my $0.02-worth comes after a month or more of putting all my .22 LR conversions, and a few of my born-to-be .22 LR’s through the paces. I regularly shoot my Accuracy Speaks Match Rifle dedicated .22 LR upper receiver on my AR-15 based Match Rifle lower receiver. The AS upper is 95% identical in form, fit, function, & balance with my White Oak .223 Match Rifle. I can shoot .22 LR with the same stock/trigger settings without having to “compensate” for any other changeovers. I shoot the .22 LR Match upper indoors in the winter to keep my High Power Rifle form in the off-season. My second .22 LR dedicated AR is my CMMG “M4” that will fit on any AR-15 lower receiver, and uses the same magazines as the Accuracy Speaks upper. I can practice tactical shooting with this upper – again, indoors in the winter. My third “conversion” sits upon my SIG Sauer frame which allows me to practice handgun techniques with .22 LR with the same trigger group as my CCW.

    Having the same triggers, sight configurations, weights, balances, etc. between the centerfire & .22 LR has improved my scores, speed and fun-factor to levels that would be nearly impossible (certainly more expensive) without the .22 LR conversions. I am anything but a “sprayer & pray-er”. Yes there is a lot of .22 brass on the floor of the indoor range when I am done, but a lot less than those who “shoot” to see how fast they can empty a magazine (with any ammo type). In light of (all) the ammo shortages, I strive to make every shot count – whether practicing Standing, Off-Hand Slow Fire, or timed tactical shooting. Every shot has the intent of making me a better shooter and/or coach.

    To me, the .22 LR “conversions” are economical, quieter, more fun, and allow teaching/coaching to newer, younger & “gentler” shooters. Lastly, every one of my rifle “conversions” will shoot 1/2 to 1 MoA out to 50 yards from a rested firarm with optic or match-style open sights with just about any brand/style of ammo I feed them. My SIG conversion slide will hold <2" groups at 25 yards when the shooter does his/her part correctly.

    OK, that was more like $0.50-worth of information, but bottom-line is that the .22 LR conversions can be invaluable in skill development and keeping the shooting sports safe, fun & economical.

  13. I started out with my Rock Island 1911 45 and I was paying about 24 cents a round for UMC 45 ACP. I bought a Kimber 22 conversion because those were about 4 1/2 cents a piece when you bought a brick of 500. Now they’re about 24 cents each. We are so getting screwed.

  14. I spent a long time trying to decide which option for a .22LR AR type rifle would be best for me. It just didn’t feel right to use a converson BCG in my .223. Something about the minor difference in caliber just seemed like a work-around rather than a solution. Also, the .22LR conversion has no need for the gas tube and leads to a dirty upper that would have to be cleaned before dropping the .223 back in the rifle. So I decided on the Chiappa dedicated complete upper. The CMMG was rated a little better in all the forums I read but the one thing that sold me on the Chiappa (a really silly reason) was the ejection port. On the CMMG, the port is shorter than a real AR and on the Chiappa it is the same as on the AR. The only downside on the Chiappa is the fixed faux flash hider. These issues are simply superficial, I know, but the bottom line is the dedicated Chiappa upper is as good as I would expect from any .22LR AR-15 solution. I have shot as many as 200 rounds through the Chiappa (mounted on an Anderson Mfg. stripped lower I built) without a cleaning and no malfunctions. But, I have had an occasional bent bullet. I use mine for plinking but its main purpose is for shooting varmints as I live on a farm in a rural area and there are plenty of those. I like this rifle.

  15. There’s nothing as much as being able to blast through a brick of. 22. The problem these days is finding it LOL. Ive got a conversion kit for my 220 Sig it’s nice being able to practice shooting .22 through it then being able to switch back to .45

  16. I used to turn all my .22lr cases into bullet jacket material and swage my own jacketed bullets. Nothing ever goes to waste. Don’t do it anymore. Don’t have the desire or inclination now.

  17. I remember in high school ROTC firing a 22 single shot rifle. But I had already joined the national guard, and fired a M1 carbine & M1 Garand. Of course I did very well with the 22 as it felt like a cap gun to me. When I took my oldest daughter to the range for the first time with her new 22 six gun, I let her fire my 357 Blackhawk first. She was a bit nervous but did ok. Then she started firing her new 22 and did very well. I believe starting with a larger round for a couple of rounds helps a new shooter then working down to the lesser. Helped me , helped my daughter.

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