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What Would the World be Like Without Magpul and PMAG 30s?

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If a few lawmakers in Colorado get their way, we could be forced to find out. In their zeal to jump on the anti-gun agenda, lawmakers in Colorado have proposed banning the sale or manufacture of high-capacity magazines. The law would go well beyond Colorado’s borders by banning the manufacture of products to be sold out-of-state. While it seems simple enough to just up-and-move to a more gun-friendly state, the logistics, licensing, environmental permits and costs would still be difficult but possible. However, that does not account for the hardship it would cause to employees and their families. Parents would suddenly become unemployed or be faced with the choice of removing children from schools and nearby relatives, selling homes and incurring the costs of relocation.

The Following is the Account Straight from Magpul

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What would the world be like without Magpul’s Pmags?

In addition to the national battle to protect our firearms rights, many states are currently engaged in their own fights. Here in Colorado, a state with a strong heritage of firearm and other personal freedoms, we are facing some extreme challenges to firearms rights. We have been engaged in dialogue with legislators here presenting our arguments to stop legislation from even being introduced, but our efforts did not deter those of extreme views.

After the NRAs visit last week, several anti-freedom bills were introduced by Colorado legislators, and a very aggressive timeline has been set forth in moving these bills forward.

The Bills Include: HB 1229, Background checks for Gun Transfers—a measure to prohibit private sales between Colorado residents, and instead require a full FFL transfer, including a 4473.

HB 1228, Payment for Background Checks for Gun Transfers—a measure that would require Colorado residents to pay for the back logged state-run CBI system (currently taking three times the federally mandated wait time for checks to occur) instead of using the free federal NICS checks.

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And finally, HB 1224, Prohibiting Large Capacity Ammunition Magazines—a measure that bans the possession, sale, or transfer of magazines over 10-round capacity. The measures and stipulations in this bill would deprive Colorado residents of the value of their private property by prohibiting the sale or transfer of all magazines over 10 rounds. This bill would also prohibit manufacture of magazines greater than 10 rounds for commercial sale out of the state, and place restrictions on the manufacture of military and law enforcement magazines that would cripple production.

We’d like to ask all Colorado residents to please contact your state legislators and the members of the Judiciary Committee and urge them to kill these measures in committee, and to vote NO if they reach the floor.

We also ask you to show your support for the 2nd Amendment at the Capitol on Tuesday, Feb 12, for the magazine ban committee hearing and Wednesday, Feb 13, for the hearing on the other measures.

Due to the highly restrictive language in HB 1224, if passed, and we remained here, this measure would require us to cease PMAG production on July 1, 2013.

In short, Magpul would be unable to remain in business as a Colorado company, and the over 200 jobs for direct employees and nearly 700 jobs at our subcontractors and suppliers would pick up and leave Colorado. Due to the structure of our operations, this would be entirely possible, hopefully without significant disruption to production.

The legislators drafting these measures do so in spite of the fact that nothing they are proposing will do anything to even marginally improve public safety in Colorado, and in fact, will leave law-abiding Colorado residents less able to defend themselves, strip away rights and property from residents who have done nothing wrong, and send nearly 1000 jobs and millions in tax revenue out of the state.

We like Colorado, we want to continue to operate in Colorado, but most of all, we want Colorado to remain FREE.

Please help us in this fight, and let your voices be heard! We have included the contact information for the House Judiciary committee for your convenience:

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While Magpul has called for Colorado residents to act, I would say let’s up the ante and all make our voices heard regardless of the state in which you reside. Ring these lawmakers, but let’s also start putting pressure on Colorado’s Tourism Board (1625 Broadway #2700  Denver, CO 80202 (303) 892-3840) as well.

Let’s let them know the decisions of their lawmakers to limit the abilities and rights of our Second Amendment will hurt their bottom line. Gun owners have rights and money. If you trample our rights we’ll ensure the financial pain is spread throughout the entire state of Colorado!

What are your ideas to convince lawmakers that the “Second Amendment Rights of the Citizens Will NOT be Infringed?”

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Comments (85)

  1. Move to Nebraska. Home office of Cabelas one of your resellers and a great economy. Still close to Colorado so not far to move. I’ll even volunteer to help! Great infrastructure and still in the middle of the US.

  2. Magpul, Pull out NOW, don’t wait. Come to South Carolina I am sure you will be welcome. We appreciate the jobs and your stand on the Second Amendment. Colorado thinks you are bluffing. Leave Colorado to Obama and his socialist cronies.

  3. Come to the South; we’ll never let your shelves get full of product and we’ll never let anyone take away your right to make it. We’ll appreciate the jobs and will do good work for you, Magpul. Welcome.

  4. I do feel for your employees but if you are forced to relocate don’t forget about Missouri, we would love to have you here

  5. Here is a reply I received from Rep. Jared Wright:

    Hello everyone,

    Thank you for writing to me about firearms legislation. This week I received over 4,000 emails about the bills introduced February 8. While I would like to write each of you individually, the mere volume of emails I received (and am still receiving!) prevents me from doing this. But please know that I have read your concerns, and I am excited to see so many of you involved in the political process.

    Most of you wrote to me in opposition to the universal background check for firearms transfers and the limit on ammunition magazine size. Some of you that receive this email wrote in favor of these bills, but the vast majority did not support these pieces of legislation. Either way, let me explain how I feel about these bills, and why I voted NO against all of them.

    I believe that one of the government’s few jobs is to provide safety for all its citizens. This is why we have the police force, fire department, and men and women of our armed forces. Protecting innocent human lives is important. As a former law enforcement official, I experienced first hand the danger that guns can present when in the wrong hands. Criminals have used guns against me, and solely by the grace of God am I here to help craft laws to increase our safety. Guns in the hands of those who wish to do evil can have disastrous consequences on our society, but they also provide safety to those who need to defend themselves when law enforcement cannot help. In all too many situations, the police department cannot get to the scene of a crime before it is tragically too late. Because of this, I believe the government should ensure that citizens have an simple process to acquire weapons for self-protection. Our Nation’s Founding Fathers understood this. They knew we have a fundamental need to protect ourselves from two groups — the first group is evil-doers who wish to harm our families. The second group is, in fact, an out of control tyrannical government, just like the one our Founder’s fought so valiantly against to give us all freedom and liberty.

    House Bill 13-1229, which would require universal background checks on firearms transfers, severely extends the amount of time a person can purchase a gun privately. Now, I understand the opposition’s argument. A criminal can purchase a gun from a law-abiding citizen and commit more crimes. The opposition claims that a universal background check would prevent this. I disagree. Criminals will still avoid the law (by nature of being a criminal) and get access to firearms without a background check. While the drafters of this bill may have good intentions, I think this bill will ultimately harm law abiding citizens and make purchasing a gun for protection more onerous.

    House Bill 13-1224 would limit the size of ammunition magazines. I also voted “NO” on this bill. While, again, I believe the sponsors of this bill had good intentions to protect the safety of our citizens, this legislation is misguided at best. Banning large capacity magazines will actually not increase public safety. In fact, it will make us all LESS safe. A practiced criminal can unload a magazine and load a new one in a matter of seconds. For a trained criminal, this bill will not slow the rate of shooting or decrease the devastation caused, but this legislation will make people less able to protect themselves against intruders and assailants against themselves and their families and loved ones – and that is wrong.

    The recent tragic shootings are cause for intense concern, no doubt. But rather than legislating to slow the purchase of guns, I believe that allowing our citizens to easily obtain guns for self-protection and the protection of our most valuable asset — our children — is a much better idea. It is also an idea that our Founding Fathers would adhere to as they indicated in the Second Amendment, rights which have recently been upheld and sustained by our United States Supreme Court in District of Columbia v. Heller. I swore an oath to protect and defend our US Constitution and our Colorado Constitution. If I voted any other way but NO on these gun control bills, I would be violating that oath.

    For those of you that wrote to me in favor of these bills, I appreciate your input. However, I believe these bills do more harm than good. The public safety of our State and Nation is a discussion we must continue to have and a topic we must act on with certainty. Our action should be focused on the evil-doers, not on just one of the tools they choose to use against us. I hope to continue to offer solutions in the form of better mental health care standards in our state, stricter penalties for violent criminals and better law enforcement response times and stationing in our schools.

    Thank you again for writing me. If I can be of any assistance in the future, please do not hesitate to contact my office.

    Sincerely,

    Jared

  6. We would be happy for MagPul to move their operation to Texas. And any other company with the same kind of problem is welcome here also.

  7. Can you imagine the reaction of our forefathers if they could come back and see how, what they created, has devolved into a bloated over regulated pig that tramples on every right they fought so hard to win for us? They would probably cry first and then get mad as Hell at what exists.

    How about we only have 50 Senators and half as many Members of the House and they had to meet in Joint Session to vote on the same Bill and avoid those stupid reconciliation meetings?

  8. The only real solutions are for weapon and ammo companies to refuse to sell to the states that are anti-gun. The other real solution is for the right states to secede. Guess who will be begging us to protect them from evil after we leave them defenseless!

  9. Although I reside in Texas, I e-mailed each and every State Representative in Colorado, their Governor and Lt. Governor and the Colorado Visitor Bureua and let them know how this will affect real families, their state economy and the influx of hunter’s and sportsmen who will take their money elsewhere once the word gets out that MagPul is get the ole’ BOHICA. I HIGHLY encourage the rest of you out-of state types to so the same by contacting Colorado. It took less than 30 minutes to send all those e-mails out. BTW, if you were never in the Armed Forces, BOHICA is an acronym for Bend Over Here It Comes Again. Continue to resist the anti-gun grabbers lawfully, legally and consistently, and let them no their days in power are dwindling with each coming election. The Bloomberg, Pelosi and Feinstein types, as well as Mr. Obama and Mr. Biden, seemingly anti-gun zealots, need to worry about financial issues and such before this great Country implodes on their watch. What a legacy that would be!

  10. Since someone already commented inviting Magpul to move here to Florida I only have one thing to add. Ramp up production and flood the market prior to banning to create income. Have your employee’s other half start packing.

  11. ALL companies that manufacture firearms and/or firearm related products need to move OUT of the Marxist states. Generally, the southern states are the most protective of gun rights. When I look on the manufacturing locations of my guns, they are all but one located in Marxist anti-gun states. As for the citizens and former citizens of Colorado, I sympathize. In Atlanta and the suburbs, we too have seen a great influx of sheeple from the Marxist states. They bring their loud mouths and their desire for intrusive laws with them. Let Colorado’s political 180 degree turn from the 70’s to now serve as a warning to ALL of the remaining freedom-minded states. When you start getting an influx of sheeple from the Marxist states, you had better make amendments to your State Laws. Demand they pass legislation clearly defining the right for the individual citizen to keep and bear ANY arms the police and Homeland Security can purchase and bear. Consider passing legislation that makes it difficult for Marxist state citizens to move to your state. Explore the legality of preventing people not born in your state to run for political office, prevent them and their children from getting “in state” tuition rights, and find ways of taxing them for moving into your state. It would be unfair to the pro-Constitution people fleeing the Marxist states, but I think you’ll find that the overwhelming majority of migrants from the Marxist States support the Marxist bureaucracies that ran their former states’ economies into the ground, which is why they have to come to OUR states in the first place. To mitigate this factor, pass favorable laws for migrating buisinesses that are pro-Constitution and their employees. As for Magpul specifically, I am happy to see that they are prepared to flee the type of state prophesied by Ayn Rand. Their products have proved to be exceptional, and it would be a great loss to the citizens of this country and our military if they went out of business.

  12. Remember what Ronald Reagan said. People vote with their feet. Moving from CO to a friendlier environment is a very viable option. We need to do what the Left Wingnuts do. Pick a hard target and boycott it. Sorry CO, but you are it. Just remember…ABC…Anywhere but Colorado!!!

  13. Magpul, Why don’t you move a little to the north? Wyoming is a great state that would welcome you. We have good hunting and fishing. Just stay away from Jackson hole. To many libs there.

  14. Please stop calling them “High Capacity Magazines”, start calling them “Standard Capacity Magazines”, I know when I received my rifle from the factory it came with a 30 round aka Standard Capacity Magazine. When the common person that has no shooting experience out in the public hears this they will not freak out as much. Terms do matter, start educating people.

  15. I have and will buy any Magpul product I can get .. I live in the Free state [ at least for now ] of Vermont and Would love to work for Magpul or any Firearms Manufacturer or Ammunition company. I feel Magpul and similar company’s are being Targeted By the Overpaid Over Zealous Lazy A$$ ” What will boost my Career ” politicians. I say Magpul, Do what is needed for your Selves and Employee’s PERIOD.. Colorado is a Suburb of NYC [ Yes N.Y.City 🙁 the rest of the state is dying for jobs that wont be coming ] , Taxifornia, and DC..
    Comming Soon : Pale Blue Berrets…. Not!

  16. Relocate next door to Kansas, right to work state, pro gun with law in the works to keep feds out of the state with their gun laws. Kansas likes guns.

  17. I’m from the great state of Texas . However, I’m calling those politicians Monday morning . I will never spend another dime in Colorado. Magpul will be welcome here in Texas

  18. Not that it will make any difference on the final outcome, but a little clarification is necessary here.

    First – Magpul will not be forbidden to manufacture standard capacity magazines. After going through a few changes, HB13-1224 now “prohibits the sale, transfer or possession of an ammunitioni feeding device that is capable of accepting, or that can be readily converted to accept, more than 15 rounds of ammunition or more than 8 shotgun shells. A person may possess a large-capacity magazine if he or she owns the large-capacity magazine on the effective date of the bill (July 1, 2013) and maintains continuous possession of the large-capacity magazine.

    A large-capacity magaine that is manufactured in Colorado on or after the effective date of the bill must include a serial number and the date upon which the large-capacity magazine was manufactured or assembled.” It goes further than that, but the point has been made.

    What they’re saying is that Magpul would need to design a 15 round magazine for sale in Colorado. They’re still able to manufacture standard capacity magazines for sale in other states.

    I sat in on the second reading of the bill on Friday the 15th. One Representative after another got up and made the following points that were against the bill.
    * The law is unenforceable. If someone is in possession of a 15+ capacity magazine, “the prosecution has the burden of proof to refute the assertion” that the holder possessed the magazine prior to 7.1.13
    * The law will actually reduce the safety of the public because we will only be allowed to have 15 rounds in our magazines.
    * The law will have economic impact due to the loss of Magpul and its contractors.
    * It won’t stop a gunman from using high capacity magazines that they purchased out of state.
    * Magazines don’t kill people. Why legislate them?
    They had a number of other points that were just as valid, but the point has been made: there was logical opposition on the bill.

    NOW HERE’S THE PUNCHLINE – Representative Fields feels that a 15 round magazine will force a mass-shooter to stop to reload more often. This will give the (still alive) vicitms in the area the chance to rush the gunman, subdue him and hold him until the police arrive. This is what happened when Gabriella Giffords was shot in Arizona.

    Most of the comments made in favor of the bill demonstrated to me that the majority of the lefties in the Colorado House have never fired a gun. They constantly referred to magazines as “clips”. (I am not aware of any clips that hold more than 10 rounds. Do they exist?) Rhonda Fields is obviously completely clueless of how quickly a well trained shooter can swap out magazines. I’ve had only a little bit of training and can change magazines and get my next shot off in less than 3 seconds. Would anybody care to rush me while I reload? You’ll be a couple steps closer, so you’ll be easier to hit.

    Lastly, the bill hasn’t technically been passed yet, although it’s inevitable. On Friday, the House voted to accept the amended bill after the second reading. By doing so, it will automatically go on to a third and final reading, where it could go through more changes. If approved after the third reading, it will be referred to the Senate for debate, where it is sponsored by senator Mary Hodge(D). Assuming it is passed in the Senate, it will be passed on to our left-leaning governor to be signed, at which point it’s a law. Of course it could go other routes along the way, but I think this is, unfortunately, the most likely scenario.

    While we’re on the subject, let’s not leave out the other current Colorado bills that some famous leaders (Hitler, Mousolini, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Stalin, Lenin, etc, etc) would have loved to support:
    HB 13-1226 – prohibiting concealed carry on college campuses
    HB 13-1228 – imposing a fee on all background checks (basically a form of a gun tax)
    HB 13-1229 – requiring a background check on ALL firearm sales, including those done between two law-abiding citizens in their own houses

    If anybody cares to read the bills, go to http://www.leg.state.co.us. Also, I would recommend you take the opportunity sometime to sit in the gallery during a reading of a bill in your House and/or your Senate. If you think you’re angry now, just go watch the process!

  19. Magpul make a top notch product and does not deserve to be shit on like my state of Colorado intends to do. I and Magpul will gladly move from this state taken over by ultra-liberal California and New England transplants. I am a native of Colorado but can no longer hold my head up when I say it.

  20. move to pampa texas—right to work state–NO STATE INCOME TAX (excellent for employees that get a raise) and we do want you here and all the gun and ammo manufactors.. besides okalhoma and texas is merging to be one state.(can be done)

  21. Come to Georgia! Good weather, very pro-business. Lots of dirt cheap manufacturing space in Gwinnett County. AND VERY PRO 2ND AMENDMENT! Why should your money pay the CO state government to put you out of business? Vote with your feet (and dollars).

  22. Send all those firearms manufacturers and accessories makers to Arizona. We’re love them here. AZ. isn’t giving up any of it’s gun rights.

  23. Well, we are to late. I am in CO now and have heard the ban passed yesterday. Not sure about the other 3 Nazi pieces of legislation. Funny, I am in the process of moving from The People’s Republic of Taxifornia to CO for more freedom, and then this crap starts. I am only going to rent in Co. Want to be able to move ASAP. MAGPUL should move to TX. Even better, TX and OK should secede from the US. I can’t take living with these Left Wingnuts any more!!!

  24. Hit them where it hurts their wallets. its a shame the innocent have to lose jobs.maybe if enough of you in Colorado refuse to pay taxes. A few million of you refuse to support gov then how long will they be in power. Money talks loud to most politicians. Just a thought.

  25. All of the comments posted here make very strong statements. I for one would support Magpul all that I could !. the whole country is in a financial crisis and of course this trickles down to every little town county etc.You always hear “create new jobs”
    when now the polotitions want to not only strip us of our 2nd. ammendment rights the
    laws they purpose will take away hundreds of thousands if not millions of jobs.
    And of course people with any common sense knows that no jobs means more crimes and
    the law biding citizen will be the prime target for crimes. And another point that is
    obvious is that criminals will always have thier guns and know that unarmed citizens.
    will be easy pickens.Law enforement cant control crime now, what are they going to do
    when the criminals know the public is unarmed.? The sad truth is the polititons dont
    have to live in the same world as the average person, and are not subjected to violent
    crimes or live around a criminal element that we have to. and they have thier tax paid for security with them. Put a senator or a congressman in alow class neighborhood
    with a low paying job for a month and see how they like it. and what the real world is like. I dont think they would fair so well. and maybe open thier eyes to the real world. and maybe just maybe it would change thier view.instead of hearing or seeing
    the crime on television they would be in the middle of it seeing it live as it happens. I’m certain that it would change thier whole perspective of real life.

  26. Move to Oklahoma. The only state in the Union to not have 1 county vote for OBuMMER in either 2008 or 2012. Now that is freedom from stupid people. We are conservative and you can drive to Colorado/New Mexico in a few hours…..

  27. I live in Colorado, Colorado Springs to be exact. Medically retired out of Ft Carson, June of 2012. When my family and I first came here in 2009, we were seriously looking at staying in Colorado, it is so beautiful. The darker side of Colorado is harder to see though. The ultra liberal influence is oppressive at best. On every other block, there are medical marijuana dispensaries, the area beautification is severly lacking, there are pan handlers everywhere… its surreal at best. And Colorado Springs is the most conservative city in the state. Denver and Boulder are on a whole other level. I cannot stand it here, the “hippie”, liberal, tree hugging, attitude is like a slime you can’t wash off. Its always here… Just waiting for the wife to finish school in July to move back to Texas. It will not be soon enough.

    We, as “gun loving nuts”, as the libtard media and population LOVE to call us, need to start contacting every single firearm manufacturer, ammunition manufacturer, accessory manufacturer, to stop contracts with states that are extremely anti gun, in the vein of Barrett Firearms and California. To contact state and local governments to support these manufacturers by purchasing from them. If these manufacturers are in anti firearm states, to support them in packing up and moving to pro gun states. There are thousands and thousands of workers in these states more than willing to work for these companies. We need to contact the state and local governments to create tax and other monetary incentives for these companies to move there. And for the companies that do continue to support the anti gun states, then we boycott them. If colt wants to sell to New York, then nobody buy Colt. If Glock wants to sell to California, then nobody buy Glock. It is just like boycotting foreign made for American made. It can be done. There needs to be a statement made by us, as firearm enthuiasts and owners, to these states that they can’t bully us around.

  28. while i’m not a resident as of yet job requirements and lesuire take me to the state of colorado the change in there laws will affect me and thousands of free citizens surounding it so if you dont think it is your problem think again when you before leaving your home have to take your cc remove your dangerous magazine and replace it with a 5 rnd mag to go there encourage everyone u know in the state that really doesnt care that much mayb they could use there word in gov to represent you as well know what i mean thanks :signed : the dangerous traveler

  29. MOVE TO SOUTH EAST TEXAS NEAR THE PORT OF HOUSTON FOR QUICK DELIVERY OF PARTS AND BRING YOUR EMPLOYEES WITH YOU! IMMEDIATELY
    Thank you….. Proud gun owning Texan.

  30. I am a fifth generation Coloradan. I am very politically active in the Republican Party and the Tea Party. I was a Delegate to the Republican National Convention in 2012. My point is this: Most people don’t even bother to vote. They sit on their asses and piss and moan about what the government is trying to do to them but won’t even call or mail their Representatives. I commend Cheaper Than Dirt for NOT selling products to government agencies that enforce restrictive gun laws and for posting this forum. My wife and I have bought property in Northern Florida and will be leaving the now liberal state of Colorado for good. This is what happens when people do nothing. It is time to stand up and fight BEFORE we have to stand up and die.Get involved politically NOW before it is too late.We are running out of states to run to. Wake up before it is your state that becomes Socialist.Joe Burke owner of Blue Dawg Firearms inWoodland Park, in what was fromally Colorado.

  31. Any one that is now employed by the US government and has any thing to do with this taking away any of my rights and freedoms that I earned in The woiderful Country of Viet-Nam 1968-1969 should be seeking employment in the US military. Mabe they can figure out what there doing wrong !

  32. Well, I’m guessing that the CO law would prohibit the manufacture of complete magazines but would not specify its parts. You could always do what sellers do in Commie-fornia and put the mag body, spring, and follower in the package and label it “Magazine Repair Kit”. It’s not a long term strategy but it buys time for working out factory move logistics. Out of state assembly is a second option as they can’t say they’re magazines until they actually are assembled.

  33. Arizona has bills in it Houses that would prevent such action… Magpul is welcome here. Ruger, American Spirt Arms, Gunsite, AWC and many other gun and gun accessories companies are here and are recognized as providing jobs and increasing the tax base.

  34. Moving is not the answer. We need to stand up and remind these people they work for us and not some political party. Recall everyone who has put their name on this bill. Recall and replace them. Do it now before it is too late to do so.

  35. I want the liberals to make these laws. Hear me out on this. In 1994, when the new “Assault” weapons ban went into place, 1996 we had an all Republican congress, till then it was Democrat. And Feinstein was one of them that lead the anti-gun charge back then as well. People ask why she is still in congress, simple, not enough smart people in her district get out and vote. Harry Reid is afraid to put Feinsteins new bill up for a vote, which by the way is up on the Senates web site now. He’s afrais that if it passes they will lose control of the senate and with it the purse strings of the country since he won’t bring any budget bills, Republican or Democrat, up for a vote.

    We had a state Senator from the St. Louis area here in Missouri introduce a bill that a lot of Democrats said went way to far. It would ban all “assault” weapons and give law abidding citizens 90 days to turn theirs in or become criminals themselves. Can you say recall election?

  36. I have , let’s just say a lot of your mags, move to another state and make more. Idaho, wy., and bring gun manufactures with you.

  37. Welcome the the GUN LOVING STATE OF MONTANA MAGPUL!!!!! Colorado is for dope smokers anyway. Move up North and enjoy the scenery.

  38. I am moving my family out of CA next summer. Colorado was on my list of places to go early in my search for a new home. I had spent some summers there as a kid and loved it. It didn’t take long to figure out they are heading in the wrong direction politically and socially. My searching keeps bringing me back to Idaho or Arizona. Anyway, love Magpul. I have purchased about 200 of their mags over the years (for myself and gifts). I also have their furniture an a few AR’s. Get out of CO. As others have said, vote with your feet and take you tax revenue with you.

  39. Well, My family is Not going to Colorado sking next yr..Thats my New New yrs resolution..It’s a small boycott but, it’s all I got. Suck those tax dollars you POS Dems. and Rinos.

  40. Hey magpul, Tennessee would welcome you to come to here, but maybe you should stand your ground and send these gun hateing libs back to New York and California where they belong. Why do people in oppressed lands escape to freedom and then try to to change their new home to be just like the old? Same problem with a lot of immigrants, they escape oppression but then recreate it here. There must still be enough freedom loving people in Colorado to vote these gun haters out. If not, Tennessee welcomes you.

  41. I can’t beleive that our government and a growing number of mindless citizens can return criminals to the streets with one, two,and even three or more convictions of rape,murder and a whole list of other violent crimes.One excuse being that the prisons are TOO FULL.Then come up with the idea that disarming law abiding citizens would help the situation.What the hell happened to the death penalty? ? ?

  42. No magazines over 10 rounds, universal background check?! In denver you can only have up to 20 round magazines as of now. A 25 or 30 rounder is considered an “assault weapon” by itself. but you can smoke dope legally?! Something is wrong with that state!

  43. Jim, North Carolina is a State that has suffered from the same politician inspired influx of northeastern liberals that Roger described as having happened in Colorado. In fact, North Carolina went for Obama in 2008 and nearly did again in 2012. No, if Magpul was going to up and move they would need to head for a reliably gun friendly State like South Carolina, Texas, or Oklahoma.

    Just exactly what is going on with all of this surge of anti-gun legislation? It has NOTHING to do with protecting the people from gun violence. That is just the cover story. It has everything to do with getting guns out of the hands of the public to protect liberal lawmakers from the wrath of a fed-up populace. The libs know that the only thing that really stands between them and total power is the armed citizen. And they live in fear that those citizens may become so fed up that they rebel and drag the SOB’s out into the street and lynch them. THAT is what they fear and that is what they are trying to avoid.

  44. Kicknbak; I too have seen the Carpetbagger Easterners and Westerners (Left Coast) pervert the freedoms of both Arizona too Florida. Back in the late 70’s early 80’s. I traveled West and relocated from the East, I found guns everywhere!!! Saw a honest too god cowboy somewhere in the mountains near Pagosa Springs, Colorado. 45ACP sidearm, spurs, face windburned black, bandanna and wooden sidewalks. Quite a vision for us Yankee Easterner City Boys. Traveled Highway 80, I believe, through the mountains. Where air was thin and truck would only crawl at full-bore, I walked faster… Where there was nothing but the side of a mountain to run into or nothing but air to tumble off into… I weren’t skeered. But the guys I was with were somewhat apprehensive to say the least. Saw so many cattle, longhorns it seemed. They stretched beyond the horizon and all you could see were cow backs… Arrived at our destination of Phoenix, after passing through the Nations. That was another “TRIP”.. I saw gun-racks in back of trucks. Overfilled with weaponry and loaded. M-16 full-auto, not wimpy AR-15.. Guns on seats next drivers, on dashboards, and signs in stores. “Please check your firearms with the Security Clerk”, never a Security Clerk present.. I never felt safer, walking the streets of Phoenix, then “anywhere” in the East.. City had 4 million residents then and me being an Easterner new nothing of 125 degree weather in the desert, as I wondered those street. Went into a local gun shop out of curiosity, and asked a man at the counter. “What do I have to do to buy one of these.” He said, “lay down $250 and pretty much make your choice and walkout.” I asked, “Do I need a purchase permit, registration or “Safety Check.” He and the other guy looked at me with befuddlement. “I have never heard of such a thing.” and had no clue of what I was speaking.. I was still mystified, as we were and are still under such Draconian Rule, though somewhat neutralized at present, do to Carry Laws and recent changes to Permit Processes.. Florida, I recently located to too find work.. Worse there at the time then here.. Them Good’Ol Boys DO NOT LIKE YANKEES, and I was family.. anyway what I had seen there from Southern Georgia to North Central Florida, is those Dam Yankees changing a once FREE STATE too a Eastern Draconian, Despotism..

  45. Why don’t these people just continue to make 30 round PMags but put a “block” or “plug” in them to reduce it’s capacity to 10 rounds? Once the magazines are sold, it isn’t their fault if people remove the blocks!

  46. GET OUT OF THAT SOCIALIST STATE NOW, NOT LATER, NOW! DON’T WAIT TO SEE IF THIS BILL OR THAT BILL WILL OR WILL NOT PASS. THE SOCIALIST ELITES WILL BE BACK AGAIN AND AGAIN IF IT IS NOT PASSED THIS TIME. JUST GET OUT TO A REAL FREEDOM LOVING STATE AND FLOURISH AND GROW AS THE GREAT COMPANY YOU ARE.

  47. Yeah this is a no-brainer, save money by moving to Texas. Families and kids will figure out their state in a matter of weeks.
    Jack

  48. Hopefully things work out for the sake of Magpul, their employees and customers. Online discussion is a great way to communicate and vent; but as gun owners and supporters of the Second Amendment, we all must show our power at the ballot box. Magpul, my Governor, Rick Perry, has issued an open invitation to all firearms related businesses under seige to relocate to Texas. We will be glad to have you! God Bless all of you and The United States of America!

  49. You all can move in next to Barret here in TN. Warning: There has been a large influx of libtards in the last few years.

  50. QUESTION; how do you take down a powerful nation ANSWER; ruIn the econammy, and devide and concor what is going on?
    people need to remember freedom is not free and cheap tragedys happen children die weather they are 5-10 or 18 on up they are still our children fighting over seas to protect our freedoms when at home they are trying to take them the actions of very few should not change a nation. the financial distress we are in and they want to spend so much more on programs to curb gun violence that do nothing if you dont like peas dont eat peas if you dont want weapons dont get any but dont impose your beleif or way of life on others with every thing going on in the world {WAR} do you realy want to disarm the nation that is the target of most aggrestion. as far as high cap mags goes it is better to have and not need than need and not have. if it ever came a time that i had to defend my family when it is over i want to be standing there with bullets still in my gun and not an empty mag having to reload or look for more ammo do you realy want to give a criminal a chance while you take time to reload.in the imortal words of judge roy bean if he wanted a chance he should have gone somewhere else. as far as how much ammo one can havd it dont matter i challenge anyone to carry 10,000 rounds on his person for a mile and look for a fight. instead of spending all this time and effort to minimize the number of kids a cyco can kill befor he reloads they should devote it to stopping it compleatly i agree one child killed not just in school is too much but our freedom is more important as a nation just asked the MILLIONS OF SOLDIERS that gave all. OH YOU CANT THEY DIED DEFENDING OUR FREEDOM our country is being devided and our focose is being redirected from the real issues i think there is a SLIGHT OF HAND going on open your eyes and force the polititions to addresss the real issues and move on from trying to take our guns and mags is the gov. looking for a fight with its citicens or trying to control its subjects

  51. Odds which state Magpul is moving to:

    Idaho 2:1
    Texas 5:2
    Wyoming 3:1
    Montana 7:2
    California 2,500:1

    /sarcasm, but with a tear in my eye. They should not be put in this position.

  52. It’s really a very simple solution, DON’T RE ELECT THE POLITICIANS THAT ARE AGAINST THE CITIZENS OF OUR COUNTRY EXCERCISING THEIR 2ndADMENDMENT RIGHTS, ITS JUST THAT SIMPLE, FIND SOME ONE IN YOUR AREA THAT BELIEVES AND SUPPORTS OUR CONSTIUION AS IT WAS WRITTEN NOT AS THEY INTERPET IT AND ELECT THAT PERSON, THATS THE SAME WAY TERM LIMITS CAN BE DONE QUIT RELECTING THE SAME OLD BS POLITICIANS

  53. Vote with your feet, MAGPUL. Move the damn factory to a gun-friendly state. I’m sure you pay a large amount of Colorado taxes. It’s clear the CO politicians do not care about the jobs you provide, the mouthes you feed, the mortgages you pay. They care only about their liberal agenda. Let them have it. Take your business and your funding to a friendlier state. I’m sure there are plenty of them out there that would love to have you employing their citizens. You can’t save Colorado or its goofy citizens who vote for these clowns. You can only save your company. Get the hell out of Colorado and go where you can thrive. Let the politicians feel the full effect of their damnable policies. When the coffers start drying up and they cannot fund their wildlife programs because hunters are no longer paying the associated taxes then maybe they’ll wake up. In the meantime, you have a huge market outside of CO. Go where you are wanted and appreciated MAGPUL. Just do it.

  54. Well they can move to Michigan, We are working on legislation to protect weapons manufactured in Michigan from federal bans. It will be legal for them to build and sell all they want in Michigan. I know it is costly to move. But these company’s need to go where they are welcomed and Michigan could use some jobs as well.

  55. What I sent to each Rep. listed;It is a natural right and a God given right for people to defend themselves and feed them selves. No one has the right to over step this nations boundry stones that have been the foundation since birth. Please advocate the constitution and do not support infringement of the right of the people to keep and bear arms. Just because we are a corporate ran country that has faced great deception by our leaders which are actually servants does not change the fact that our leaders are our servants. We The People take Oaths of Office very seriously for our lives and our childrens lives as well as the world depends on it. What happens in our nation effects the world. Thank you for your time. With High Regards and all due respect please stand up for what you are made of!

  56. Since when can a state legislate Federal law? They can make it illegal to sell that type of magazine in their state. But they haven’t the right to stop manufacturers outside their state from manufacturing them. This state has to be controlled by liberals wanting to disarm their residents in order to fully control every aspect of their lives. If this were not the case. They would devote their time to the real cause of gun related crimes. They would hand down extremely harsh punishment for all crimes and in the case of murders committed with firearms. They would order a few electric chairs and use them like one a day vitamins. They would also carry out the sentences quickly, and not thirty years after the piece of crap committed the murder. But, like most of us realize. Gun control and eventual confiscation have nothing at all to do with crime and everything to do with controlling the masses under a dictatorial regeme. Like the one that’s in power right now.

  57. I got out of the military while stationed in Denver, way back when. We loved Colorado and lived there for more 45 years before packing it up and moving out. Reasons… another story. Denver & CO was still a cow town back then (50S & 60S), very little (serious)crime. Laws were lenient and enforcement was generally handled peaceably where the infringement took place. It still had many remnants of the old west, including many of the old blue laws and bar restrictions. We could wear a side arm almost everywhere we went, very few did unless hunting or camping and sport shooting. We always joked that Denver was 10 pr 15 years behind as songs on the radio as songs would be worn out in the East and West before we would even hear them in CO. Cost of living was low to moderate. I 70 didn’t exist and I 25 was a two lane. CO was generally regarded as vacation land year around, a wonderful place to live. Then… the great influx of folks from the East and West coasts and the modernization of paradise happened. The politicians job is to bring in commerce, bring in people, and taxes to improve things so we could bring in even more. City fathers were shoved aside to make way for money hungry politicians. Costs and prices shot up, traffic got heavy, crime exploded, but worst of all was those folks now drifting into paradise for a better life also brought along their old baggage,their laws, their ideas of great change, and soon Eastern Colorado (Denver area) wasn’t any different than N.Y., Chicago, L.A., etc. just on a smaller scale. Things like Columbine in the late 70s would never have happened in the old days. Today you are seeing but just another of the so called betterments they all brought along with them. We still love CO and miss it very much, but old friends tell me we wouldn’t recognize much of it anymore and the whole being of the country has changed. The part we would miss is gone, unless there’s still remnants on the western slope. Ending to this story? The loss of ‘freedoms’, a little at a time. It’s time the real people stood up… but they’ve been conditioned for too long now, much like the rest of this once great country A sorry tale. Roger

  58. Ban mags over 10rds! Just carry a cheap 8-shot.45 & put 10 spares in your waistband, shoot it dry, speed-reload until some legally-unarmed-mass-shooting-victim gets LUCKY & stops yer rampage; better, sit back w/ a box full of 10rd AR mags, scope, bipod, & do your mass-shooting at a safe distance; of course, the objective is to ban all guns, except guns that protect our power-elite

  59. How about banning auto’s as they kill 4000 kids a year and mains or injures almost 250,000 a year! AND their is no constitutional right to own a car!

  60. Another case of Government interfearing with gun owners rights.
    While I personally do not load my magazines to full capacity I see no
    reason to have another’s right to do so infringed on.
    As for Magpul, I prefer their magazines over the metal ones on the market.
    Their lips do not bend and cause feed malfunctions compaired to the metal version.

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