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Will You Turn Over Your Guns?

Dianne Feinstein

As the implementation dates draw ever closer for shooters in some states to turn over semi-auto rifles, give up magazines of a certain size, register heretofore unregistered firearms, and perhaps have guns confiscated, some observers are saying they expect that many gunowners will not comply with new local, state and federal gun rules. And some law-enforcement officials are saying they won’t enforce laws they believe infringe on the 2nd Amendment. feinstein-not-6th-grader “I’ve heard from hundreds of people that they’re prepared to defy the law, and that number will be magnified by the thousands, by the tens of thousands, when the registration deadline comes,” said President Brian Olesen with American Shooters Supply, among the biggest gun dealers in New York. (The New York Post) Sheriff John Cooke says he won’t enforce new gun-control measures in Weld County, which covers a large part of northeastern Colorado, and legal experts say he won’t be breaking the law. (The Saratogian) The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs said it will not comply with the provision of New York’s new gun control law requiring mental health providers to report potentially dangerous individuals to state authorities. (Times Union) The Constitutional Sheriffs and Peace Officers Association (CSPOA) has a running tally of all the sheriffs across the nation that have joined together to defend the Constitution. At the time of this post, there are 15 sheriffs associations, 340 sheriffs, one police chief and one deputy sheriff who have stated they will not enforce any new gun laws.(CNS News) The California Senate approved a $24-million expenditure on Thursday to speed the confiscation of guns from people who have been disqualified from owning firearms because of criminal convictions or serious mental illness.… [T]here is a backlog of 19,000 people who have improper possession of more than 40,000 guns, including 1,600 assault weapons, and the number is increasing faster than their firearms can be confiscated.(Los Angeles Times) Wearing bulletproof vests and carrying 40-caliber Glock pistols, nine California (STOCA1) Justice Department agents assembled outside a ranch-style house in a suburb east of Los Angeles. They were looking for a gun owner who’d recently spent two days in a mental hospital. They knocked on the door and asked to come in. About 45 minutes later, they came away peacefully with three firearms.(Bloomberg.com) The toughest part of New York’s SAFE statute — banning in-state sales of guns newly classified as “assault weapons” — immediately took effect Jan. 15. An estimated 1 million currently owned, formerly legal guns with a single military-style feature, like a pistol grip on semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines, must be registered by April 15, 2014.(The Oneida Daily Dispatch) At one time, it was hypothetical to ask, “If your state, county, or city bans guns or accessories you currently own, will you give them up?” Now, the reality is that formerly legal firearms may become illegal to own overnight in some jurisdictions such as New York, and other states such as California, Maryland, and Illinois are contemplating all sorts of anti-gun “options.” And though a federal gun ban seems unlikely, it’s still a possibility. And having all private sales require a NICS check looks more likely every day.

So what’s your plan if DiFi comes a-callin’? If you can tell us without violating your OPSEC, what will you do? Let us know in the comment section.

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Comments (989)

  1. They will not infringe on our inherent right to own or posses personal defense weapons. Nor will they confiscate our ammo or the magazines We The People posses. They will abide by the Constitution that Limits their behavior.We must not accept anything less. I believe that politicians are the ones that need wellness checks before making any law. I believe that pharmaceutical companies must carry insurance on all the patients that take their medications. I believe in putting God and guns back in the slaughter houses that we call schools. I believe Diane Feinstein is a WITCH and John Boehner has no BALLS. The Republican Party is dead and Democrats have no soul. We need to turn off the TV’s, iPads and cell phones. Get involved in local politics and remind our children what it is to be an American. Screw political correctness and the ACLU. Join the NRA or Gun Owners of America.

  2. To: Rodger Miller,
    Sir,
    I suspect that if history is to again repeat itself that there will be different types of soldiers in different positions and levels of leadership, responsibility and action. I would further suggest that that an operational “cell” structure will continue to form for all the obvious reasons as it seems to have already started to do. Should the current division within our Republic continue along its present course I suspect that that “cell” system will be an extensive underground movement with the goal to restore our Constitution, Bill of Rights and Republic from all enemies and despots foreign and domestic. I would further suggest that States may choose sides within this conflict further expanding the issues critical nature or find themselves immeshed in there own internal issues . The nations very stability becomes a problem at such a point. I will grant hat his is an outlier worst case, but, pan for the worst and your not surprised as often or hurt a deeply.
    Having read your several post here I would advance the idea that your position on these issues and the knowledge you might bring to such a . . . . Cause . . . For lack of a more descriptive term at this time, might place you either at or near the forefront of such an endeavor or in some equally important position Should you find a need for operational security or intelligence, intelligent input from a common sense perspective I’d be interested in speaking with you.

  3. The “smoke and mirrors” argument of that ridiculous California senator is simply an excuse to confiscate guns from the honest gun owners.
    If you haven’t been paying attention over the past 45 years, let me sum it up.
    The progressive liberals have been slowly stripping the law abiding citizens of the United States of their rights. All in the name of “for your own good.” Smoking bans,

  4. Dec. 30, 2012

    Sometimes you just cannot argue with the numbers. If these numbers are correct and true, the USA has bigger problems on their hands other than who was elected President.

    From Bill O’Reilly’s message board:

    Most everyone suspected fraud, but these numbers prove it and our government and media refuse to do anything about it.

    As each state reported their final election details, the evidence of voter fraud is astounding. Massive voter fraud has been reported in areas of OH and FL, with PA, WI and VA, all are deploying personnel to investigate election results.

    Here are just a few examples of what has surfaced with much more to come.

    * In 59 voting districts in the Philadelphia region, Obama received 100% of the votes with not even a single vote recorded for Romney. (A mathematical and statistical impossibility).

    * In 21 districts in Wood County Ohio, Obama received 100% of the votes where GOP inspectors were illegally removed from their polling locations – and not one single vote was recorded for Romney.(Another statistical impossibility).

    * In Wood County Ohio, 106,258 voted in a county with only 98,213 eligible voters.

    * In St. Lucie County, FL, there were 175,574 registered eligible voters but 247,713 votes were cast.

    * The National SEAL Museum, a polling location in St. Lucie County, FL had a 158% voter turnout.

    * Palm Beach County, FL had a 141% voter turnout.

    * In Ohio County, Obama won by 108% of the total number of eligible voters.

    NOTE: Obama won in every state that did not require a Photo ID and lost in every state that did require a Photo ID in order to vote.

    Imagine that!

  5. Oh, by the way, in the thirties, Joe Kennedy, father of Ted Kennedy and John Kennedy was ambassador to England, and he was a personal friend of Adolph Hitler, visited frequently, and that is how Ted Kennedy came in possession of Hitler’s law. It was Joe Kennedy that assured Hitler that “Americans will not care, no matter what happens to the jews”.

  6. Thank you Mr. Sand,
    I was a historian once, and a teacher in a junior college. I left that position after 3 years, fed up with the liberalism propaganda being spouted even then, 1971-1974. I did a lot of research as I wanted to teach truth in history, not the pablum non-history of the text books provided and approved by the California System. I no longer even want to visit California let alone live there. I did find, in my research, that the 1964 gun control introduced by Ted Kennedy was a translation of the 1933 gun control law Hitler (Adolph Schicklegruber) used to disarm the German Citizens. Any good communist, socialist or fascist knows you have to do three things to subjugate a people, first, break down the family unit, second, destroy religion and third, take away all weapons. The liberals of today are now calling themselves “progressives”, which comes from the 1920’s and was what the communist party and socialist movement called themselves to keep from getting run out of the country by the honest citizens. If you have heard Hillary Clinton speak, she has often referred to herself as a “progressive” and went on to say “just like the progressives of the 20’s as we believe the same way”. To see what these people are up to, one need only read Maciavelli.

  7. I am in agreement with P Carl, looks like 1776 for the second time around! Of which I hope does not take place we have to take back our rights. Remember What Obama said in 2008 “I will not take away your Rifle, Pistols, Shotguns, Etc., what a Big LIAR!

  8. Those we have chosen to represent us in the Republic are not listening…instead they pursue party agendas.

    Tired of the “assaults” on our liberties.

    Give me Liberty or Give Me Death! I pledge to sustain the oath I took to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic.

    God Bless us all!

  9. TO ARMS, TO ARMS!!
    A cry now perhaps relevant once again! We are a Republic betrayed by a government that has chosen expediency over facing reality and finding real solutions to our problems. They smell blood in the water and will expand their reach in months to come. It is time to choose what steps will be taken to retake our Republic from the detractors and those who would weaken our nations place among nations.
    TO ARMS, TO ARMS!!

    It is time to decide your path. No bullshit anymore, put up or shut up. Are you willing to be cast as the social outliers to fight the destruction of our nation? Our elected government has chosen to betray their oath to their Republic, they know they have done this because with one hand they take our Rights away by creating additional needless and in point of fact unconstitutional legislation while it the other declaring their support of the 2nd Amendment and the documents that create the foundation of our Nation. LIARS, TRAITORS, AND CONMEN ALL. The dominoes have fallen. That Fall is in motion. If you live within the repressive boundaries of those states that now have been falsely validated by the unconstitutional Federal response beware. We, the law abiding, Patriot Citizens are now facing being considered the anti-social, fringe extreme segment of our national social makeup. The wolves must now learn to protect the flock while standing against those who would pen them up and control them for their own agenda. If we considered our nation divided before then we have only seen the tip of that iceberg.

    Chose your path! The opposition has chosen theirs and are moving to solidify their position thru the destruction of the foundation our Republic rests upon. TO ARMS! The enemy is within he walls and the fighting is now on your streets. Where will you stand?

    Any of the above may be true, possible, actual, reality, or tomorrows headlines. Passion must be put aside and a dispassionate view and understanding of the new realities and positions requires our attention and then our choice of path. Tomorrow, the world will know that we have weakened and can not protect ourselves. No more posturing, No more mouthing the words. It is time for all good men to stand and be counted. It is too late for anything else.

  10. The first “Assault” guns outlawed in The Colonies was the musket, and it was outlawed by the British in 1774, after which no person could own a firearm. Since that time, any gun manufactured could be termed an “Assault” weapon by our politicians. In 1775, the colonies went to war, and we became the United States. Thomas Jefferson, John Jay, James Madison and others of our founders fought hard for the 2nd amendment, and all their arguments for the amendment are spelled out in the “Federalist Papers”, which I recommend as required reading for any patriotic American, and especially any who want to preserve the 2nd amendment. Thomas Jefferson even said the american people would have to rise up and take our country back from the politicians every 200 years or so, and he said it would have to be by force of arms and loss of blood. Of course, I paraphrased.
    I believe that if every Jew in Germany would have shot or stabbed every SS Trooper, Nazi or Gestapo agent who came to their door to take them to the death camps, then the Holocaust would have not occurred or at least it would have been slowed down.

  11. Dan,
    I too have spoke those words and stand beside you as a brother in arms, but we need to change the argument from one of soul passion (it is needed still) to one of intelligences of fact and law, because as you know the United States is a nation of laws, and the Second Amendment in the law of the land today. To allow these usurpers to change ANY language to the Second Amendment will prove to be only the begin of the confiscation of power over our GOD given rights we have be endowed with. How can we as good and decent people look upon our children and grand children and tell them that we have failed them and generation to come and deprived them of their freedom with the failure to act.
    The Second Amendment is the gateway and if they enter we have failed! As you may also know in the Army we choose the soldiers that will train the new soldiers coming in to the Army by selecting the top 10% of all MOS’s throughout the Army, Why can we not as citizens of our state choose and watch the top 10% of our people that would be prospective candidates to hold these office; instead of electing the one that has the most money, friends, and political power. The founders believed that if you had the credentials and back ground to hold the offices, you could run to represent the people that would be represented by said office; provided the people wanted you to represent them in said office. Why are we only electing those people that are carted out before us as candidates, rather than looking for those fine people ourselves to be our candidate. We collect date on everything under the sun (why not this date) and if they the collect date person wishes not to be included then they don’t have to be, but we need to get back to a time where people were called out to serve their country, and then return to their places of business/ life after such time they have complete or served the needs of the people. This would serve us the citizen as term limits to those that have not meet our needs/ expectations. We don’t need lifetime representatives!
    Your brother in arms: MSG– Terry 12M (US Army Firefighter)

  12. The gun grab has started in the Marxist looser states like Calif, New York, ILL, N. Jersey, Delaware, Conn, Mass. It’s not thousand of cops a day in massive raids. It’s one at a time 5 or 10 a day per these Leftie states. Using divorce, a DUI, your kid draws a gun in school, or talks about Dad’s gun, then the socialist union teacher calls the cops. Being anti gov’t, (against the Marxist Obama agenda). They come banging on your door. Calif and others are like the Nazi’s they come at night. The raids are printed in local left wing papers, and the lying cops say the gun confiscation was from a nut, or a depressed divorcee. The major news never print all the hundreds of gun raids going on every month now. You only get the truth from Glen Beck, Drudge, Brightbart, WND, or Alex Jones.Thanks Hitler for the cop training manual for our American brownshirts.

  13. The Captain told his men at the Concord Bridge, Men! Hold your line. Do not fire unless fired upon. But, If they mean to have a war, let it begin here. 1775
    Same thought here in Georgia. Or New York or California or Connecticut or Nevada or any of the other of These United States.

    Let it begin Here! ! ! ! Molon Labe.

  14. If they want them, they can have them only IF they have Scheumer and the troll Fienstein and Jim Carrey come and personally try and take them without their bodyguards not only not in sight, but not even in the state and these twerps have no backup but themselves. I can safely say that I will have the most fun I have ever had if that happens as I bet I get to keep my guns as these cowards wont even step outside of their bodyguard protection to buy a snow cone, let alone come and face mano-a-mano a citizen when they are trying to take away a right

  15. I seriously cannot remember where I put them. I took my guns out while fishing and when my boat capsised and I lost everything even my fishing poles. I loved all of them.

  16. Today I have been watching C-span, various news feeds and am ashamed of the continued twisting of the blade in the body of the Republic. I feel deep loss and anger for the Newtowns children and parents, Colorado, Chicago and anywhere that unwarranted senseless violence takes a life. For me and from my point of view these incidents only serve to highlight the real issues we as a nation face and the continuing refusal of our leaders to solve them with real workable solutions. Our elected political body has discovered that they can do nothing by doing what we hired them to do. Just push a bill thru, don’t worry that it has no hope of serving the common good, that it, weakens the Republic and further ignores the existing threats. I am ashamed for those who pronounce at the top of their voice that the answer in to “ban magazines, ban wanna be assault rifles, Ban! , restrict!, control!, tougher laws!, more restriction!, . .. . . . . . . . . When all is said and done, when the politicians can declare”Peace in our time” wave a piece of paper and say ” I have the signatures and agreement”, stand in front of their left wing Media partners declaring victory . . . I fear that moment. History will have again repeated itself.
    And at a future moment, when across our TV screen the words, “BREAKING NEWS”, glide………
    As Another school, theater, bank, post office, store, mall, neighborhood, stretch of highway becomes the” top of the hour”, “6 o’clock main story” “film at 11″ . . .when it happens, will anyone ask the only important question?
    ” Excuse me Senator Sir or Madame, but you took away the rights of the people to defend themselves, you weakened the 2nd Amendment by creating oppressively restrictive laws and applying them to the law abiding public. Why didn’t it help, where is the security you promised, where is the piece of mind you said we would have.??”
    Unfortunantly, Their response will be “we did what we could!!!!! Trust us, we did! “. They will point fingers at why it couldn’t have been better, they will muddy the waters as quickly as possible so they can not be seen for the inept job they do. And then, they, will say . . . . NOW, we will have to do better, NOW, is the time for change, NOW, we will take it all. NOW, we must bring ourselves into the present and consider the future by reevaluating the foundation on which we stand as a Republic, NOW, as a people if you wish to be secure you must submit! WE, will protect you! I have to declare a position of “No Confidence” in the US government, an political parties who are unable to govern at all.
    So, now we must really consider our position. It is the chilly light of day. The declarations of “……. cold dead hands ……..” Sounds great , perhaps, but in the long run, in the heart of hearts, were the Patriot must stand in the face of their own governments corruption to protect their belief in their Republic how many will choose to sacrifice their perceived but temporary security and privileges to regain this Republics stature. There I much to consider. It is perhaps time again to water the roots of the tree of that Republic. If the storm descends on us how will you stand? The opposition that would have our Republic become weak , that would see its people lessened, count on what history shows them, to see their agenda become the new reality. They count on the fact that we as a people will just accept what ever they choose if the can make it a “LAW” will be accepted and go unopposed.
    There comes a breaking point where one voice stands and says “NO!!! Not today or any day will you, for your agenda, bring my country down by taking away the foundation which it is built on”
    The day may come, and in the near future, where one may be faced with the real life, real time decision as to exactly what they will do, how far they will go, and to what extent one will sacrifice for their Republic and one’s belief in that republic.
    This is not about an issue such a Gun Control any longer, it may never have been about that.
    Gun Control, Immigration, The Economy may be no more than the vehicles that take us to this national confrontation. The crossroads has been reached, time to choose the direction to take. Choose the direction you will take. I have chosen mine, perhaps I will hope to see some of you there. I’ll be there and hold a place fo you. You won’t be late an you’ll get there on time.

  17. Terry, the oath I took when I entered the military still stands today as sacred and true as the day I took it. When I swore to protect this country I love, I swore to protect it from enemies both foreign and domestic. I have never backed down nor backed away from that oath and I never will. A man is only as good as his word and if he cant keep his word, then how can you trust him on anything else. A person that would try and deny you the same right that she enjoys is a hypocrite plain pure and simple. HOW DARE people like Scheumer and Carrey and fienstein and Obama try and deny you the right to own your own weapon, when they have armed bodyguards. I actually asked Teddy Kennedy when he was still alive, just how he can justify telling me I could not have an automatic weapon when his bodyguards were all armed with Tech 9 Machine pistols with 30 round clips. He responded, “well I am a US Senator” and my response back to him was “Well I am a US Citizen guaranteed rights by the US Constitution, the same Constitution you swore to uphold and protect. So Senator, were your words just empty air for you to pick and choose which to comply with or did you mean them?” He then stood up and called the town hall meeting to an end and glared at me as he waddeled from the room.

    As my father (God rest his soul) used to say all the time, “I have been an a$$hole in the past and most likely will be revisiting it in the future from time to time, but at least I dont try to make it my permanent address.” more intelligent words were never spoken.

  18. I think we are missing the BIG picture in all this talk. We can charge many tall claims—You can have my gun when you pry it from cold dead hand—what does that accomplish in the end? We are being assaulted with a weapon of mass distraction within the words of the attack. Why would these people risk the midterm elections and loss the Senate if there was no means to the end. To confuse the enemies of the offender you would attack them on many fronts or a round robin of subjects to get them to be so paranoid of the next attack they wouldn’t see the army within the Trojan horse that’s about to cut them off at the knees. Stand for freedom and the Constitutional rights that we have bled for, but stay of a sober mind and focus on the attack that is all around and at your feet. The time to fear these people is over and it is time that they had the fear and wrath of God thrust upon their shoulder to reap the whirlwind of the seed that has been sown in this life.

    “I am the guardian at the gates of freedom and if I fall another shall take my place to stand at the ready to defend this great blessing we all enjoy.” Patriotism is not just a word; its a life style for a eternity of free men over generations as long as there is a generation to be served by. Loss the Generations and loss freedom for an eternity!”

    Comment by terry — April 8, 2013 @ 12:06 pm

  19. Ethan at 579. Have you bothered to look at the laws in NY or in California? They have had people who followed their laws and registered their weapons, only to have the states turn around later and come to their door and demand they give up the weapons they registered or make them unable to be used. There are numerous sites clearly stating this with quite a bunch of them not having anything to do with guns. That Ethan is called Confiscation. Or did you miss the part that Hammond of Gun Owners of America has stated that Obama is checking with the DOJ to see if he can just sign yet another illegal executive order that violates Article 1 Section 1 of the Constitution, to just order Americans to give up or turn in their pistols/Handguns? Yet again, it is called Confiscation!

  20. You are correct Marc C. Daniele, You should take YOUR BS somewhere else as people are not falling for your lies of being in the Military when you cannot even spell the state you claim to be in correctly and so far you have never given your unit as any proud military Vet would. Oh and one more thing? You have had your racist posts reported as a violation of the TOS of this board. Dont be a bit surprised if you come back here and cannot post anymore.

  21. HELL NO!Our forefathers saw just this problem and put the second amendment in place to prevent the government from doing just what they are trying.They can have them after I’m dead.Gun laws are a useless waste of time because the only ones who will follow them are the law abiding citizen not the crimminal.Why not just enforce what is already on yhe books instead of screwing around with our rights.IMPEACH OBAMA and the rest of those morons

  22. I will not give up my guns. I missed many things including the birth and first 3 months of my son’s life fighting for the bill of rights and constitution etc… I will fight for it again if I have to. If they try to take them by force, they better bring a bunch of body bags. I may be in one of them when all is said and done, but many of them will be right along with me.

  23. Why are we even in a position where we are asked this question ??? It is because the dumb-asses of America RE-ELECTED Obama. They should have known his anti-gun stance, because it certainly was not a secret, even before he was elected for his first term. But yet, they elect him for a second term. Why are we in this situation ???.. Currently, there are 3-4 million gun owners who are members of the N R A….but how many people out there own guns, and do not think it is important to be a member of the NRA; the one group who is constantly fighting for our gun rights ? It has been stated that Americans own approximately 300 MILLION GUNS. If everyone who owned a gun was a member of the NRA, can you imagine the political clout that we would have ??Politicians would be afraid to take a piss without asking if it was ok first. There is a saying that “there is strength in numbers,” so convince everyone you know to become an NRA member. Make the gun-grabbing politicians afraid of us.

  24. Heck No they can pry my weapons from my dead cold hands. I have sacrificed for this country and I am not about to roll over and take this crap. So all I have to say is good luck or die trying….

  25. My guns are for sale to the Government! $10,000,000.00 each, CASH in advance, and I will deliver when I am ready. In the mean time I am making contact with a trafficker to buy some BIGGER guns with MORE ammo that I can get at my local store!

  26. I truly hope all my Brother and Sister Marines are reading these posts, so that they know what is happening here. We will need them when they come home. They took the same Oath I took which ids the SAME Oath the Pres, VP, and Congress took. The difference being, Soldiers stand by their word.

  27. The State of Connecticut will try to pass a Ban on Assault Rifles and High Capacity magazines this week! So today in defiance, I purchased more high capacity magazines to go with my Assault Rifle Wanna Be! I also have a stash of many rounds for ALL my weapons, including my banned high capacity pistol, for which I also purchased more mags! As a Viet Nam Combat Vet, I have been shot and shot at, and I am not afraid. I died once, so I know what to expect, some little asshole working for the FBI or other Agency doesn’t have a clue, and most likely will crap his little panties when someone shoots back! Come and get’em boys and girls! Come and get’em

  28. I say if push comes to shove just give them a stripped lower receiver… That’s the only part that is “techicnally” considered the GUN. Far as they know you never completed the build. At least that way you have something to work with later on… Maybe a Printed receiver.

    Jim

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