Firearms

Best Selling AR-15s of 2012

Bushmaster M4A3

We often field questions about which AR-15 is the best. In my experience, if you ask ten different firearms enthusiasts about the best AR-15, you are likely to get ten different answers. Aside from some fundamental specifications, which at this point most manufacturers meet or exceed, most AR-15s you buy off the shelf work perfectly well for range time. Rather than searching in terms of the best AR, you might consider what the most popular AR is. We ran a report of the top selling AR-15s of 2012 to see which black rifle could be crowned king. Some of the answers might surprise you.

Colt 6720R Talo Edition

Colt 6720R Talo Edition
Colt 6720R Talo Edition

In fifth place, Colt chambered the Talo 6720R for 5.56 NATO as well as .223 Remington. It is no shock that this is one of our top sellers since it comes with a solid list of features. Some of these include the new Rogers Super-Stoc, Colt free float quad rail, Magpul MOE grip, MBUS flip up sights, and above all the Colt pony stamped on the side of the receiver. It’s a beast for a decent price. The 1:7 twist on the inside of the barrel can stabilize heaver projectiles, and the low profile gas block allows more room for goodies. You could do worse when picking out a rifle.

Colt AR-15 Magpul MOE 6920

Colt AR-15 Magpul MOE 6920
Colt AR-15 Magpul MOE 6920

Shocking—another Colt coming in fourth place. You would think these guys enjoyed making ARs or something. The Colt 6920 is extremely close to what the military issues our soldiers around the world. It is one of the highest quality rifles on this list, and yet we sold a ton of these things. Barrel twist rate is 1/7, one complete bullet revolution per seven inches of barrel, which is the military specification and which will effectively stabilize bullets from 55 grains to 77 grains in weight. They say the devil is in the details, and a detailed analysis of this gun will show it to be made of superior materials and workmanship. For nearly two decades now the 6920 has stood as the epitome of the M4 Carbine, and the loyalty to Colt and their design shows in the sales of this model.

Bushmaster M4A3 Patrolman’s Semi Automatic Carbine

Bushmaster M4A3
Bushmaster M4A3

The famous Bushmaster name has been the misguided focus of attention from the media due to recent tragic events. One of Bushmaster’s most popular carbine models, the M4 type features a distinctive military barrel profile and six position telescoping buttstock-great for 3 Gun Match shooting, home defense and law enforcement use. The Bushmaster A2 & A3 type Patrolman’s carbines are similar to the M4 type carbines, but with additional barrel length to make them legal for sale to individual officers and civilians. They feature a chrome-lined barrel, birdcage flash suppressor, A3 upper receiver with picatinny rail, and removable carry handle and rear sight.

Colt LE6920

Colt LE6920 AR-15
Colt LE6920 AR-15

Coming in second is the venerable Colt LE6920 chambered in 5.5 NATO is as authentic as a semi auto AR-15 gets. Incorporating a 4-position retractable stock, M4 handguards with dual heat shield, flattop upper with removable carry handle, 1:7-inch twist, chrome lined barrel, and of course, the Colt pony on the receiver. It may look like a basic AR from the outside, but the buttstock is sturdy, and aside from some added optics, I wouldn’t change a thing. You don’t get the fancy free floating quad rail hand guards, but to be honest, I really don’t care. It’s a great rifle to start off with and it wouldn’t take much to upgrade any parts you wish. The core of this weapon is solid, and I wouldn’t scoff if I saw one at the range.

Windham Weaponry SRC

Windham Weaponry SRC
Windham Weaponry SRC

The winner for the absolute top selling AR-15 of 2012, The Windham Weaponry SRC, chambered in 5.56 NATO, it makes an economical choice for a functional flat top AR-15. If you haven’t heard of Windham Weaponry, you should read more. The former owner of Bushmaster runs Windham Weaponry, with the same machines and specialists that made Bushmaster. After selling the Bushmaster name to a conglomerate, they just turned the machines back on and started making Windham. The flat top upper receiver and gas block provide you versatility to mount the optic of your choice with the option for easy mounting of backup sights. It incorporates a number of quality features including a 16-inch chrome lined barrel with 1:9-inch twist, flattop upper, and two-piece plastic handguards. The result is a rifle that is ready for ammunition and a trip to the range. When we started selling Windham rifles, I knew informed shoppers would gravitate towards them, so its no surprise that this rifle finished in first place.

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Comments (98)

  1. Re Feinstein’s Assault Weapons Ban bill of 2013: (http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/assault-weapons-ban-summary), it states:

    “Assault weapon bans have been proven to be effective.

    The 1994 Assault Weapons Ban was effective at reducing crime and getting these military-style weapons off our streets. Since the ban expired, more than 350 people have been killed and more than 450 injured by these weapons.

    A Justice Department study of the assault weapons ban found that it was responsible for a 6.7% decrease in total gun murders, holding all other factors equal.
    Source: Jeffrey A. Roth & Christopher S. Koper, “Impact Evaluation of the Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act of 1994,” (March 1997).
    The same study also found that “Assault weapons are disproportionately involved in murders with multiple victims, multiple wounds per victim, and police officers as victims.”
    The use of assault weapons in crime declined by more than two-thirds by about nine years after 1994 Assault Weapons Ban took effect.
    Source: Christopher S. Koper, “An Updated Assessment of the Federal Assault Weapons Ban: Impacts on Gun Markets and Gun Violence, 1994-2003” (June 2004), University of Pennsylvania, Report to the National Institute of Justice, U.S. Department of Justice.
    The percentage of firearms seized by police in Virginia that had high-capacity magazines dropped significantly during the ban. That figure has doubled since the ban expired.
    Source: David S. Fallis and James V. Grimaldi, “In Virginia, high-yield clip seizures rise,” Washington Post, at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/01/22/AR2011012204046.html
    When Maryland imposed a more stringent ban on assault pistols and high-capacity magazines in 1994, it led to a 55% drop in assault pistols recovered by the Baltimore Police Department.
    Source: Douglas S. Weil & Rebecca C. Knox, Letter to the Editor, The Maryland Ban on the Sale of Assault Pistols and High-Capacity Magazines: Estimating the Impact in Baltimore, 87 Am. J. of Public Health 2, Feb. 1997.
    37% of police departments reported seeing a noticeable increase in criminals’ use of assault weapons since the 1994 federal ban expired.
    Source: Police Executive Research Forum, Guns and Crime: Breaking New Ground by Focusing on the Local Impact (May 2010).”

    I would bet that John Lott has something to say about the statistics mentioned above. Has anyone seen a reply by John that would clarify and refute the claims you have just read? It seems to me that if “assault weapon” bans were the sole cause of a “6.7% decrease in total gun murders,” as per the DOJ, nothing is really proven. Fewer “assault weapons” don’t mean a thing, IMO. It means only that criminals used a more readily-available weapon. Also, what about the association between more criminals being caught and being put in prison? Certainly, this would affect the stats. To summarize, these statistics need to be picked apart, otherwise statements made are open to question, as they should be.

    So….where are you, John Lott?

  2. I live in the less insane Upstate NY, as opposed to the liberal idiot territories near Albany and NYC with folks that cower in fear of any citizen who is pro-gun. My wife and I are CCW holders for NYS, Arizona, Florida, and Utah. We have purchased a nice array of .380, 9mm and .40 caliber handguns (Glock, Sig-Sauer) for personal protection, an 18.5″ barrel 870 12 gauge pump shotgun for home defense, an 11-87 shotgun for hunting, another 870 20 gauge for hunting, several .22 rifles for small game hunting, an AdCor 5.56 mm chambered rifle for long distance hunting and civil defense, and a whole lot of ammo (had to buy a 2nd gun safe) with thousands of rounds per caliber for the little mini-armory my wife and I have. Why? It is less about fighting our own citizens in the military, and more about a few other things that concern me.

    I do believe that within my lifetime we will see the collapse of the American dollar. How could we not given the heavy debt and insane tax burdens placed on us? If it comes to pass I want to be able to defend and feed my family, and trade ammo for essentials we will need. For me the firearms are tools, and the ammo allows me to both use these tools, and trade for things I do not otherwise have. If a guy is a better squirrel hunter than I am, I will trade a dozen rounds of .22LR (we have over 10,000 rounds of that particular caliber) for him to bring back two squirrels for dinner. If someone is a deer hunter and I do not have the time to go get one myself, despite being a smaller round than ideal I would trade a few dozen rounds of 5.56mm NATO ammo for him to share the meat with me when he takes one down.

    Ammo will become a commodity with real exchange value once nobody cares about paper currency and electronic numbers in bank accounts. It will become more valuable than food as food can’t be used to defend you and your family – it can allow you to eat, but you may have to fight to keep it from being stolen. Ammo will allow you to hunt and/or trade for food & water, and you can use it to keep others away. I buy as much ammo as I can each month, thousands of rounds. About to buy a 3rd fire resistant gun safe just to be able to store even more. For investors, what else can you purchase that gains 15% per year in value – tax free? That’s right, nothing but good quality ammo in popular calibers (.22LR, 9mm, and .223/ 5.56mm are real popular).

    Just sayin’…

  3. It would seem that many have not been paying attention to what has been going on for years. If you had to “run out and buy”…anything, shame on you! I along with many others did not need to buy anything. We have been slowly preparing for years.
    This is the true heart of the matter…Everyone thinks the Constitution will defend itself.These liberals,progressives and democraps have been calculating and forcing political correctness down our throats till we have become spineless.
    It is past time to act like a junk yard dog in defense of our rights and our culture. We all love the (A)merican(R)ifle…the military has real AR’s,fully automatic…but wait according to the government ,theirs are personal defense rifles.
    According to Obama ,our founding fathers were a bunch of Old White Fools and they didnt create the second greatest document in History, and he is going to fundamentally change America..Get this bastards out of office,local,state and federal, and all there employess that make twice as much as you for 1/10 the work. Think about it,these Government workers are just as big a problem, why is DHS,Social Security,Homeland Security and the others buying record amounts(over 2 Billion) of Hollow point bullets? Not a rant or hate mail, just a factual look.

  4. Here one for the brains. Soros is behind this. What if(since he owns mega shares in both gun mfg’r and ammo co, so it is to his benefit and Obummers to cause a scare, panic so we run out and buy everything, driving demand and pricing out of sight. Burn the mfg’s when the scare runs its coarse, cause factories to be over loaded and massive lay offs.
    Has any one seen Obummers thugs in the fed. gov’t pass anything, only a scare now.

  5. Since everything cost money, like moving a business.The companies,like alot are starting to do, do not sell to the State and local police and governments that violate our rights. Far to long each one of us has been guilty of not aggressively responded to non-sense about our gun rights.
    Each one of us must educate ourselves to articulate how stupid and ignorant these traitors are to the fabric of America.They should be informed they are traitors and if Marshall law is declared, don’t tread on me.
    Let it be known that Obamacare protects our gun rights! Harry Reid and Obama in thinking that they could protect Obamacare added a Provision that does not allow for registration of guns, and future protected the 2nd add.
    Educate all around you about the 2nd being about Government protecting,not hunting or magazine capacity or anything but a right as Tax paying citizen, and then how enjoyable shooting is, we must pick the ball and run with it.
    I love my Stag Arms 6.8spc,Vorteck 600 yrd scope and 110 grain bullets, as a range gun and this year enjoyed killing a few deer. What a amazing AMERICAN HERITAGE the Ar is……

  6. Many of the major gun manufactures are located in northeastern states whose
    government representatives are trying to ban the guns they produce. This will greatly
    affect jobs and tax revenue of those states. Why isn’t this ever brought up? Why do these manufactures put up with this. They should threaten to move to states that support
    them. Many states could offer better tax rates and would love to have them.

  7. @dale. Im not an expert by any means but checking into the same thing before I found out that you would need addifferent lower reciever as well. The magazine for a 308 will not fit a reciever for a 556 or 223 rem. They do make a barrel that you can use on a 556 reciever to shoot 300 blackouts. Use the same lower and mags. Like I said im no expert and this is what I came across but always a chance I could be wrong. Hope it was useful

  8. Dale, a few manufacturers have started to offer lowers with multiple-calibered uppers that could be easily switched into the lower member. You might want to check the Long Range Hunting or 6mmBR websites. There are others that probably are more oriented to the AR platform, but since I am not into AR rifles, I wouldn’t know how to advise you.

    In the March, 2013 issue of GUNS magazine, however, is an ad from LMT (www.LMTDEFENSE.COM) that offers their switch barrels in .243 Win, .260 Rem, .338 Federal, 7mm-08 Rem and 6.5 Creedmoor. I also spotted another company that offers a .308 switch-barrel option, but I can’t remember where I saw the ad. Might have been on TV’s American Rifleman on the Outdoor Channel. Sorry I could not be more helpful, but one of the other members will probably offer more and better info.

  9. I have an Armalite rifle and was curious to see if you guys may know… now in 5.56, can this rifle use a different upper, like .308? If not what would need to be changed? I’m sure it is a post-ban rifle. Not that I would change it but, just wondering.

  10. As far as the inane comment that Andrew Cuomo made that there is no “need” to have an “assault rifle” (whatever that means) for hunting deer, Cuomo never considered that semi-automatic rifles are perfect for varmint control. The AR platform fills that “need” because of its semi-automatic feature and because its .223 caliber has become one of the most widely-used one in the U.S. for home defense and varmint hunting. Evidently, Cuomo has publicly displayed his gross ignorance by thinking that the AR is used mainly for deer hunting (they are not). These types of rifles have unfortunately become the whipping boy for the policitians; they always need a “crisis” that can be solved only by big government.

    As for my Ruger-platformed precision Clark Special 10/22, I will become a felon, rather than give up this rifle under Feinstein’s loathsome bill. It’s great for competition as well as ground squirrels.

  11. Terp, you hit the bulls eye…For to long the lazy,indignant,ignorant Americans have let out rights slowly get voted away. This is only partly about the guns, it is about standing against the destruction of our heritage.
    We should be as vicious as a junk yard dog in defending our rights. We have been attacked from within by these traitors called democraps,liberals,progressives and immigrants.
    We should demand they assimilate into our society and leave their culture in their homeland. They come here because of our culture then destroy it.
    THE Revolution was started because the English came to disarm the Colonies. STUDY OUR GREAT HISTORY,and keep your weapons clean and loaded.

  12. Not sure what ar-15 is best, but, this discussion would be held under much more favorable conditions if all of the millions of people who were too lazy to get off their a– and vote obummer out had voted. If you did not vote, you have no voice in this discussion. You have already surrendered. I am afraid that some of the worst will occur if obummer gets his way. I believe he is an enemy of the state and will be a bigger martyr than bin laden could have even imagined. Get out and vote!!! Meanwhile support those manufactures and politicians who will fight to protect of 2nd amendment. Proud owner of two pieces of metal.

  13. I read through about 20% of the posted comments and I have two observations to make. One,to those who don’t get why anyone would need to own an ar-15 type firearm I say “you don’t need to own one,but don’t tell me I can’t”. Second I absolutly love my ArmaLite ar-15–it has the best trigger on a production ar that I have ever used. Keep freedom alive,speak with one voice,do not allow wedges issues to divide us. Today its my ar-15 maybe tomorrow its your Remington 1100.Stand together or fall alone. Support the NRA.

  14. I’ve been a hunter for 55 years, mostly with shotguns. I served my country in Vietnam. I always wanted a weapon like the m-16 I used in the mid 60s. Since Obama became der Fuehrer I know own 5 .223 rifles with 6 thousand rounds for back-up! To be prepared is my new obsession!

  15. I believe the smartest thing a gun owner can do at this time is stock up on ar-15 format lowers, as many as you can afford as this is where the serial numbers are and you should always be able to get an upper in whatever cal. you need. futhermore any existing lower will take a standard hi-cap mag and this is what may change for new purchases. also, these will continue to go up

  16. Jimr your statement is completely false and ignorant of the facts. My Judge pistol or a riot gun can casuse more immediate damage than my AR. A bullet has one purpose, not a gun. I have hunted for 40 years with many hunting rifles and now prefer a AR platform due to its easy to carry and quickness with 2nd shot follow up. You have no right to state that it has one purpose. Meanwhile you are promoting the gun grabbing agenda.
    The facts have not been documented that a Bushmaster was used, but in fact a couple of pistols. This whole thing including Aurora and Fast and Furious is a lie to remove even more of our rights. It is about removing our last line of defense against total control by this treasonous government.Due you think the jews would have marched to the gas chambers if they would have had guns?
    Obamas drones have killed more innocent women and children than ARs. You my friend are by default a murderer by allowing the government to kill worldwide while you whine about a few drug crazed government planned shootings.
    I HAVE A RIGHT TO OWN WHAT I WANT. You are attempting to violate my rights.

  17. I don’t think it will be the best seller, but I do think it is one of the best.
    I have a Rock River 5.56, flat top, flip up front and rear sights. Quad rail is really nice, the first 4″ is a smooth soft material the next 6″ is 4 sided reg rail and anything will clip to it. I have the Eotech site with the flip over 3x magnifier. About the most accurate site like that I have seen. If you are making about a 70 yd. shot, pull your rifle up, look through the eotech and it it is a little far slap that magnifier over and it is perfectly lined up and dead on. This can all be done in less than 2 seconds. The Eotech combo costs more than most good scopes, but it is worth it in close quarter combat. Mark

  18. IFFV
    Thank you for your service. I am not a lefty, gun-hating, government-loving 47%. I am a tax-paying, upright man who loves his freedom and who thinks that America is great not because of government but because people do not depend on government.

    Now back to the point of discussion…the facts of the Connecticut shooting are clear – the whacko killed the children with the Bushmaster…and therein lies the truth of what I said in my previous message. If you have an AR15 – you should understand that it’s a firearm that has just one purpose – to cause a lot of damage in a short period of time at a close range. Therefore, it’s your responsibility to keep it out of the hands of whack-jobs and yahoos who think they can shoot it out with Feds. In fact, that boy’s mother failed him when she gave free access to the firearms to an unstable man. See below for news report.
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/16/at-least-26-dead-in-shooting-at-connecticut-school/

    I don’t think that an AR15 is a good firearm of choice for any civilian situation – a shotgun for riot control and a handgun for personal defense would be my ideal – but that’s just me…I am not stocking up for a showdown with law-enforcement.

    These are the kids killed by that crazy son of a gun…
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/12/17/officials-release-names-victims-in-connecticut-elementary-school-shooting/

  19. Jim,
    Why do you wear underwear? You don’t really need them.
    All weapons are Defensive unless you are the aggressor. Everyone know the AR-15 platform are not as accurate as a Bolt Firearm. I’m also a Bolt Target shooter. I have a Savage .22 T.R. The best group was at 50yds, put the last six shots in the same hole.
    I also have a Colt Match Target Completion, twenty in Wilson Barrel, the works. I shoot Pennies at 120 yards. No bad for a old Vietnam Vet. The rang only goes to 100 yards, so I cheat a bit & go farther.

    I also have a Colt L.E.6920 & a Colt Gold Cup. Why limit yourself to one type of firearm.?.

    Adolf Hitler in 1932 or so want Gun Registration for the Jews, those who didn’t comply were fined,
    Next Gun Registration for all Germans & Jews, To SAVE THE CHILDREN,
    Next, those who didn’t register would be put in Jail for 10 years, Jew were sent to a Concentration Camp,
    Next, Total Gun Confiscation, for the Jew, do not comply, shot dead,
    Next,1936-38, Confiscation of all Guns from the German People. TO MAKE A SAFER GERMANY & A SAFER WORLD.
    Hitler has himself surrounded on stage with Children all around him. Like the Liberals are using Kathy Gifford as a RENTED MULE.
    It took Hitler & his People many years to take away Firearms, It’s a slow process & it is happening here.
    Selling Assault Type Weapons to Mexico almost worked, until one of ours got shot with one. CT, school shooting, almost worked, the Officials new he couldn’t buy a Firearm & new he was suppose to be sent to a Hospital, waited an extra day, Shot his MOM, never did use a AR_15 at the school, it was in the trunk of his car.
    People looking out of the Box believe it can happen here.
    Believe or don’t believe.
    Our style of Government has lasted more than 200 years. Most only last 50 years or so.
    thanks for cheering me up.
    IFFV

  20. We all had a joke in school about those that post sewage such as yours….the best part of you ran down your Daddy’s leg.
    Hopefully you will never get a chance to be on the receiving end of my AR at whatever distance so I can prove how inaccurate it IS NOT.
    You are a traitor and a enemy.

  21. Hey jim r you don’t have a clue what you are even talking about. the ar15 platform is one of the most accurate platforms available,you sound like you got your talking points right off joe biden. at least you should get your facts straight. the bs is being put out there by people like you who don’t know what they are talking about. Some of the best shooters in the world compete at Camp Perry every year with the ar15 platform, and I am sure even the lowest scoring shooter there could out shoot you and your magical bolt action. you sound more like a liberal than a gun owner that belongs to a gun association, because you are trying to force your opinion on other people. nobody cares what you think,law abiding citizens should be able to buy what they want without someone like you running your mouth about them being idiots for picking one rifle platform over the other.SEMPER FI!

  22. First of all, I am a gun-owner and a member of a range and gun association(s)…
    Secondly, I enjoyed reading this article even though I will probably not buy an AR15…I consider them pretty useless for any of the purpose a law-abiding citizen would buy a gun…
    1. They are useless in target shooting sport – They are extremely inaccurate…in fact, a run of the mill bolt action (human skill level constant) will outshoot an AR15 any day of the week….
    2. They are stupid as defensive weapon in a home invasion…you can’t have them lying around loaded if you are sane – any crazy, idiot or child can initiate a sequence of events that will have disastrous consequences. By the time you reach the locked cabinet and loaded your AR15, it’s naptime. A hand-gun would be your best bet.
    3. To all you SHTF and Zombie apocalype and Survivalists idiots out there – if Federal government was coming to get you – do you really think you stand a chance with an AR15 piece of shite? They have fully automatic machineguns and predator drones…you will be roast beef before you say Bushmaster…All this BS is created by gun dealers who want to sell you more guns

    So, get into sport…it’s a lot of fun hitting that bull’s eye…best firearms are those that give you that feeling of control day in and out. All the rest of pissing contest is just juvenile.

  23. This administration needs to be stopped, and they will when they try to take our firearms. Afterall, over 300 million weapons can’t be wrong! We shall overcome.

  24. They should all be voted out of office, most of them have been there way too long! It’s time for younger people with new ideas to be given a chance to get us out of the mess these old circus clowns have gotten us into. half of them are so old I doubt if they really even know what is going on. they just go along to get along. the other half have a personal agenda and thats all they care about. Time is not on our side.Barrycuda is right train with whatever platform you have because you probably won’t get the opportunity to buy another. cheap rifles are as reliable as expensive ones as long as you take care of them. I have both and they all shoot great,some are more accurate than others but they have all been very reliable, and lots of fun to shoot. you have to remember they have had 50 years to work out the kinks in the ar platform and I think they have done a pretty good job. If you keep’em cleaned and lubed you should not have any problems. SEMPER FI!

  25. Lets turn this back to talk about the most functional shooting platform…..It matters not what brand you have, shoot,shoot and shoot. Learn the weapon inside and out, utube videos are the best. As this thing evolves remember that plenty of ammo will be available from the Incompetent,treasonous DHS fools that we will give our bullets too first.

  26. Trouble is brewing nation wide and it’s just a matter of time when the line will be drawn in the sand.This countries 2 party system is what makes the dislike continue.I do not like either,more of the same from the same.People in between are speaking their minds and most are tired of being forced to follow the elected cons the 2 parties keep voting for.Perhaps democracy has lost it’s appeal to those who have had enough.No more liberty,just pay up and shut up is what they are told to do,year after year.Well hopefully this will come to an end while I’m young enough and able enough to do my part.A fresh start is starting to sound better and look better everyday.Just a matter of time…

  27. I hope so. But Google H.J. Res.5 This is far enough along that with a declared “emergency” Obama can make this law with a simple Executive Order. President for life! It took me months to find this last year after hearing a rumor about it.

  28. He may want “Obama`s Amerika” but in reality he can only serve 2 terms, thank God! That`s the limit, 2 terms or 10 years in case of a death by a sitting president. He`s done after this 4 year Obamanation. I hope that people are waking up to the travesty that is the Democratic party in the USA and votes all their asses out in the next few years at the ballot box!

  29. There are many things “Obama’s Amerika” can do to deny honest, God fearing Americans “THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS”

    Also, in knowing how deep in debt America is, one possibility that could restrict gun sales and help with the debt is by imposing an extremely high firearm/ammo federal tax. He would call it the “Obama Wounded Knee Tax”.
    The Anti-American tax would apply to all firearms, associated parts and ammunition.

    Obama could then say he kil*ed two birds (American Eagles) with one stroke (of a pen).

    He may also be able to justify a third term due to decreasing unemployment by hiring thousands of new governemnt employees because of all the extra positions needed to manage these new laws and everything affected by the taxes. He could keep American firearm mfr’s at work by exporting fine American made weapons to Mexico and his friend’s countries which would also boost his foreign relations ratings, American exports would rise, which would balance the foreign deficit.
    Wow!, Considering all of these changes Obama would feel justified in appointing himself for many more terms and would be well on his way in turning America into the country he invisioned when he first took office. “Obama’s Amerika”
    “The Land where They Flee and The Home of the Grave”

  30. We have MANY chances EVERY MONTH to vote for people who at least will not take our rights away The new way too kind term “low information voter (LIV)” (in reality, they are totally greedy fearful- the two strongest human emotion ARE FEAR and GREED) vote for those who promise to destroy all those who make $1 more than they do, shower them with riches beyond belief (then take away) and tuck them in bed a night keeps the evil to the bone antichrist (no one said there would just be one) monsters in office all doing what they can to rule the world and in reality the LIV will be the FIRST ones to be “dispatched” when the time comes as TPTB know they are sooo stupid they lack the most basic skills to serve TPTB uber rich and powerful. Voting is OVER – they do NOT need couch potatos eaters who complain “Oprah is Gone!”. They’ll KEEP us (the ones they catch – hah!) as we are the ones who really make the world work and will do so in the future. How did Reagan slip by? Just proves TPTB do not bat a thousand – just .999. So we DO have a chance!

  31. thanks!

    so obvious!!

    I’ve spent the last 30+ years writing conservatives books, newsletters, being interviewed (unfortunately all on shows that if I watched the viewership was one), newspaper column (didn’t last long I was too honest about the Left) instead of learning ro shoot rifles — my fault!!

    Going to start spending time in the country learning to shoot my AR’s instead of just locking them up in a gun safe! No shooting range in my large city allows ANY rifles!! Bummer. Not even an 870 shotgun. No practice needed to shoot an 870 – pump aim pull trigger (in that order). But I have yet to fire one bullet from any of my AR-15’s! How nutty is that! I keep buying more options plus more ammo but if I never shoot them what good are they to me? Thanks again for the info even I can understand. BTW-I do practice a LOT with my P3AT and S&W 357’s so I am not defenseless. I am dead on center of target out to at least 50 yards.

    I keep telling the gun range owner in my city he could clean up if he’d set up a rifle range. But city ordinances makes doing so a real task plus expensive and he has the ONLY permit for a hand gun range within the city and no way will the anti-gun PC city council allow another one. Almost did then last year a no-permit (how did he get past security? no one knows), got his wife to go along – you guessed it -shot her saying it was an accident. No! he had a list of domestic priors a mile long. He killed her just days before capital punishment went back into effect (as if he didn’tnow that). He just lost the last appeal and lost the million dollar payout life inurance he had taken out on her w/o her knowing it!. In our prison system pedophiles and wife beaters are dead within a year. State does NOT bother to even investigate!

    The gun range owner now has TWO steps in place to go through before you’re even allowed in the door! But that killing ended more gun ranges for good. Thank heavens the shooter had no permit – plus his gun he had told his wife and others he bought and was certified and trained etc. — no – they traced it to him buying it illegally from a guy in a bar. So no PR the media dearly wanted to use to undo our hard won CCW law – it is absolutely spotless after 7 years plus has stopped many rapes, robberies, wackos going into malls ready to shoot the place up– store owners are allowed to have gun behind counter even with the “no guns allowed” round red stickers on all the doors. Been three mentally wackos (all out of state stolen guns) thus far in seven years not one got off a single round before a store owner or clerk had them stopped – only had to wound one — the other two cowards that they always are dropped their guns and hit the floor as soon as they saw the flash of a gun coming up from behind a counter.

    The owner of the gun range now operates 24/7 365 days a year charging prices you wouldn’t believe. Has Brinks show up at his place three times a day! including 3 AM! Guns DO stop crime! Since CCW FINALLY passed seven years ago shootings have dropped to almost zero (as I say when the bad guys see a gun they usually just give up – if it wasn’t for drug deals that go bad we’d have close to zero shootings in our big city! BUT you’ll NEVER read that in the paper! Thanks again from me and the other novices too embarrassed to ask. BTW-I will NEVER shoot my AR’s the first few times w/o an instructor with me each time!

  32. Thank you for the information. I don’t plan to ever get close enough to being asked anything. I have a cousin who is probably among the top AR15/M16 experts in the world. I’ll spend time with him soon. I thought it was being said if the AR-15 is partially disassembled a certain way it becomes legal. “They” would only find my AR-15s as a fluke accident. I just thought I’d prepare in case that should ever occur. With all due respect, at least among AR owners, most DO understand this is just the first step to seeing us all dead. Not just AR owners but all they deem not capable of “re-educating” to “collectivism” (slavery).

    It seems most today do not realize history repeats itself. Those who, say, own a single hand gun. Most are foolishly breathing a sigh of relief today. ALL ten tenants of the Communist Manifesto have now been adopted. Ir’s only a matter of time.

    Most today are not old enough to remember the Hell of WW2 but you’d think history is still fresh enough to warn people of the mortal danger we face BUT enough history has been rewritten to make US the evil of the world. As more youth grow older they shun that which keeps us free. We will soon (again) be forced to learn the hard way.

    At 65 I am old enough to remember the complacency of even the 50’s but I watch younger generations embrace the hegemony that is slowly dooming us all unless we somehow “turn around” and do so VERY soon. I see no sign of this and I suspect you do not either. The collective stupidity of those of many countries (i.e. America) who (for now) remain essentially free never ceases to amaze me. “The calm before the storm”. Perhaps two percent(?) of us ARE aware and ARE prepared. Two percent of Americans are prepared to survive for a week at the most while in Europe it is over 50%. Enough remember their homes, lives, countries reduced to ashes while America has to look back 150 years to the Civil War for such devastation and that was just PART of our country.

    I write a widely read (?) newsletter and take such surveys. I am now writing “time has run out”. Five years of writing a newsletter, writing a book and producing a hundred plus videos and I still mostly just “preach to the choir”. Beyond frustration! I’ve done all I could but still shake my head in disbelief. At least I am no longer called paranoid and alarmist. Many FINALLY sense AND FINALLY BELIEVE the coming danger is REAL but STILL do nothing – stoically awaiting their fate – just as millions did 70 years ago.

  33. I agee with most of you but not all of you! First the Government has FORCED medical on us and if you don’t comply or cannot afford it they fine you $1500.00 or worse from what I have heard is send you to Jail! Anytime you FORCE someone or somebody it is COMMUNISM!!!! Secondly they are FORCIBLY going to try and take our Guns and they will if Bama has his way!!! Thirdly they are Monitoring EVERY phone conversation you make and if you say the wrong thing such as bomb, blowup,threat and these are just a few there computers will pick up on it and they trace it back to you, don’t beleive me? Check out the national news on ABC the 16th of this month! Fourth Bama has now taken CHRISTMAS away and it is called the WINTER FESTIVAL not CHRISTMAS! Next he is trying to turn this Great Country into being MUSLIM!!Don’t beleive me? Look at the recent polls, they List Muslim 1st,Mexican 2nd, and American 3rd,what does this tell you? Sadly we Americans sit idlely by and let it happen, we are so GULLIBLE!!What’s next? I’am sorry if you people don’t beleive me but the TRUTH hurts!

  34. Gary, you missed the point of my statement. Nothing will make the AR defense rifle legal, according to them. No manufacturer produces assault rifles, they produce defense, hunting or competition rifles. Do not engage anyone that does not know the difference. The AR stands for ArmaLite Rifle a specific manufacturer who coined that AR as a generic name. It is NOT a complete AR-15 if it is not assembled. Therefore… if you are asked if you have an AR-15 …you do not, as the statement AR means a complete operational rifle. I have fertilizer and diesel in my garage, does that mean I am going to tell anyone I have what is required to make a bomb? Realize anything you say will be used against you. They are here to kill us and very few realize how deadly this will become.

  35. Gary- to separate upper and lower recievers consist of pushing two push pins to release the to recievers from each other. If you don’t know search YouTube there are so many videos on there for assembly and disassebly of ar-15 firearms. You should watch these so you know how to properly clean your firearm also which is am important part of owning one.

  36. DHS has been putting large amount of ammo thru out the country I mean large amounts. 223 308. The national guard in central oregon.and the one in Idaho. My buddies told me that something is going down. Everybody get ready.

  37. I just pray the people we put into office defend our rights. If they do not, I guess it’s time for us to vote for someone else into there office seat. We can giveth we can take awayeth.

  38. sorry – typed too fast — should have said withOUT doing permanent damage to the AR-15. help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ON BEHALF OF MEGA THOUSANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  39. Re the comment separating upper and lower of an AR-15 to make it “legal” under the new unconstitutional laws would you ro someone please please please do a detailed YouTube video showing this STEP BY STEP for NOVICE AR-15 owners! Then post it her and everywhere. Owners such as me I truly regret not acquring the knowledge I NEED to do this with permanently destroying the AR-15 but it is too late for regrets. There are many thousands like me who need – plead for a step by step video to do as you say. PLEASE! OK- I’LL BEG — PLEASE! I AM WRITING WHAT THOUSANDS OF OTHERS ARE TOO ASHAMED TO ADMIT. I’M NOT PROUD – I’LL BEG ON BEHALF OF THOUSANDS!!

  40. COLUMBINE STUDENT’S FATHER 12 YEARS LATER !!
    Guess our national leaders didn’t expect this. On Thursday, Darrell Scott, the father of Rachel Scott, a victim of …the Columbine High School shootings in Littleton, Colorado, was invited to address the House Judiciary Committee’s subcommittee. What he said to our national leaders during this special session of Congress was painfully truthful.

    They were not prepared for what he was to say, nor was it received well. It needs to be heard by every parent, every teacher, every politician, every sociologist, every psychologist, and every so-called expert! These courageous words spoken by Darrell Scott are powerful, penetrating, and deeply personal. There is no doubt that God sent this man as a voice crying in the wilderness.. The following is a portion of the transcript:
    “Since the dawn of creation there has been both good & evil in the hearts of men and women. We all contain the seeds of kindness or the seeds of violence. The death of my wonderful daughter, Rachel Joy Scott, and the deaths of that heroic teacher, and the other eleven children who died must not be in vain. Their blood cries out for answers.

    “The first recorded act of violence was when Cain slew his brother Abel out in the field. The villain was not the club he used.. Neither was it the NCA, the National Club Association. The true killer was Cain, and the reason for the murder could only be found in Cain’s heart.

    “In the days that followed the Columbine tragedy, I was amazed at how quickly fingers began to be pointed at groups such as the NRA. I am not a member of the NRA. I am not a hunter. I do not even own a gun. I am not here to represent or defend the NRA – because I don’t believe that they are responsible for my daughter’s death.

    Therefore I do not believe that they need to be defended. If I believed they had anything to do with Rachel’s murder I would be their strongest opponent.

    I am here today to declare that Columbine was not just a tragedy — it was a spiritual event that should be forcing us to look at where the real blame lies! Much of the blame lies here in this room. Much of the blame lies behind the pointing fingers of the accusers themselves. I wrote a poem just four nights ago that expresses my feelings best.

    Your laws ignore our deepest needs,
    Your words are empty air.
    You’ve stripped away our heritage,
    You’ve outlawed simple prayer.
    Now gunshots fill our classrooms,
    And precious children die.
    You seek for answers everywhere,
    And ask the question “Why?”
    You regulate restrictive laws,
    Through legislative creed.
    And yet you fail to understand,
    That God is what we need!

    “Men and women are three-part beings. We all consist of body, mind, and spirit. When we refuse to acknowledge a third part of our make-up, we create a void that allows evil, prejudice, and hatred to rush in and wreak havoc. Spiritual presences were present within our educational systems for most of our nation’s history. Many of our major colleges began as theological seminaries. This is a historical fact. What has happened to us as a nation? We have refused to honor God, and in so doing, we open the doors to hatred and violence. And when something as terrible as Columbine’s tragedy occurs — politicians immediately look for a scapegoat such as the NRA. They immediately seek to pass more restrictive laws that contribute to erode away our personal and private liberties. We do not need more restrictive laws. Eric and Dylan would not have been stopped by metal detectors. No amount of gun laws can stop someone who spends months planning this type of massacre. The real villain lies within our own hearts.

    “As my son Craig lay under that table in the school library and saw his two friends murdered before his very eyes, he did not hesitate to pray in school. I defy any law or politician to deny him that right! I challenge every young person in America , and around the world, to realize that on April 20, 1999, at Columbine High School prayer was brought back to our schools. Do not let the many prayers offered by those students be in vain. Dare to move into the new millennium with a sacred disregard for legislation that violates your God-given right to communicate with Him. To those of you who would point your finger at the NRA — I give to you a sincere challenge.. Dare to examine your own heart before casting the first stone!

    My daughter’s death will not be in vain! The young people of this country will not allow that to happen!”

    – Darrell Scott
    Do what the media did not – – let the nation hear this man’s speech. Please send this out to everyone you can.

  41. With the new shredding taking place of our gun rights…The only way your AR 15 is just that is if it is together. That means if you strip your weapon, separate the upper and lower..it is no longer a AR 15.Same with the auto pistol, separate the upper and lower. We must be as shrewd as they in this foolish notion that our rights can be usurped by a illegal kenyan and a group of mobster’s.
    In the movie Collateral Tom Cruise is asked if he killed the fat angelano..his response..I shot him and the bullets and the fall killed him.
    I love my 6.8spc stag arms and it is the Best deer rifle I own. So yes people do use them for hunting. Comfortable to carry,climb up in stands.
    I will give up my guns …bullets first.

  42. I agree – way past. The NY laws assuming they pass by blind emotion (will pass) -sorry for residents of NY but good for rest of country as all will see these laws will do NOTHING to PROTECT citizens of state. Most likely just the opposite. Libs are not being smart letting this be “tested” in one large state only to see it utterly fail. Will be just like the UK where criminals (country FLOODED with cheap handguns from east Europe and China – buy on any street corner -I heard price was in progress as low as $50 for “Saturday Night Special” that often blows up in face of shooter! criminals actually patiently wait for homeowners to return home to be shown where valuables are kept. Exclude inner city gang and drug wars and US is now FAR safer than UK and Australia who are both watching their crime rate climb every year since 1994 when guns were banned. Few know of the 100,000 people march last year that included many thousands of “bobbies” in uniform! demanding people be allowed toown guns again. Even most police are disarmed in London -they refuse to respond to calls in many Londin suburbs (their suburbs are same as our innercities. Pull out gang wars and drug violence and US becomes a very safe country. EVERY state that has passd concealed carry has seen gun violence DROP. Simple statistics that can’t be explained away by the Left. Personally I feel LESS safe when I see those “no guns allowed” signs at entrances to mall, theatres etc. There has not been a single instance of a shooter saying “I WAS going to shoot at (fill in the blank) but stopped when I saw the “no guns allowed” signs. Politially Correctness bleeding heart “it’s the intent that counts not the actual outcome” will eventually turn us into the Wild West the Left claimsgun ownership fosters. I LIVE in the same stateas Dodge City and there has only been one illegal shooting (out of 14000 permit holders) by carrier of concealed weapon. An off duty police officer who got drunk and shot his wife (she lived but his fellow officers in this small town were forced to shoot one of their dear friends! They say it was DBC “death by cop”. He came out with unloaded gun pointing it at on duty officers – they had no choice. Will diarming police as much of England has done make us safer. This is a crazy world becoming “only lunatics allowed”. 850% more people are killed by knives and blunt instruments (ie fist) each year than by guns! Shall we ban anyone making a fist?

  43. I am NOT an expert so perhaps someone who is can give you more complete answers plus putting these questions into Google brings up all kinds of good info. Theccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccccc ket will bear! Most will find this hard to believe but I bought my AR-15 at a gun show from an out of town dealer two years ago for $499. Last ten minutes of the show and I overheard him tell his partner(?) he had bought more than he had sold and wasn’t sure he had enough cash for gas to get home. He had a sealed in the box sitting there marked $699. I waved $499 at him in cash, pointed, ne grimaces then we exchanged my cash for his AR-15. I saw him last weekend and he actually laughed over that experience as he said “I am geting R I C H!! He offered me $2,000 for the AR-15 he said sold me. He had sold several brand AR-15’s for $2500 (he said) and had one lone AR-15 still there that was so stripped down I’m not sure it would fire as-is.

    There was SOME 223 ammo at the show (which is suddenly rare) @ 2.50 a round! Wow! I thought I was being taken at 40 cents a round last summer but source was almost sold out and told me “they now won’t even take new ammo orders from me”. So I bought a box of 1000. Already had several thousand. Should have bought all they had! Someone must have as Web site showed sold out a few hours after I placed my order. Your other questions are better answered in pictorial form using Google.

    If you go to any large show or you can also buy on-line there are numerous AR-15 manuals that cover every conceivable option, what each does, how it mounts etc. I just have a scope, light and a red dot which purists say is too much already. Had a holgram but my eyes couldn’t adjust to it. Expensive! Then price shot up $200 so I made money reselling it. I bought an AR-15 -22 shoots LR22 bullets fun for target practice. Plus you can shoot all day for $50. IMO the .22 is far more accurate for a basic training shooter like me.

    As with any gun (except 870 shotgun IMO) no one should EVER even hold a gun until they have been professionally trained on each model/type gun they own. To do less is danger to you and others. 870 is special case. I tell specially widows (many friends of my wife – we’re “seniors”) to buy an 870 then have someone like me show them the basics. For home invasion protection ONLY. Keep under bed (NO CHILDREN EVER IN HOUSE) for quick access should you hear your door being kicked in at 2 AM. From stats 97% of such scum turn and run when confronted with a woman holding an 870. They know they 1. do not negotiate because of size difference (usually) 2. jump pump and pull trigger. 3. the 870 NEVER misses out to 50 yards (length of long ranch home and 870 blows a hole in whatever it hit. A second shot is NEVER required. As an aside many make mistake of accidentally buying birdshot for the 870 which just makes the guy mad. Only need a few boxes of 870 buckshot – ONLY use is for home invasion personal protection. Price is right! For hunters i.e. ducks, pheasant etc. far better but more expensive shot guns. To be safe have friend who knows gun take 870 owner to country every so often to remember how to load, aim, pump, fire and basic gun safety rules. These gunphobic people change after being invaded, raped etc. at 2 AM. Buy 870 for way under $299! Sorry – answered way more than you asked me. Google for AR-15 detailed manuals. Cousin who lived with his M16 in Vietnam can still take apart clean it and reassemble – blindfolded. Didn’t believe him – he showed me – amazing.. Two Vietnam tours mostly dropped behind enemy lines as an paratrooper MD I guess does things to a soldier. Half time as MD saving lives and half as “never miss” sniper. A world I can’t even imagine. An M-16 is NOT the weapon of choice for a sniper but he had more tiny carved notches than stock end of second tour. Showed me blindfolded just last year. After 45 years he can still do it! Amazing!

  44. Gary, I think the time to choose has past. at least thats what I took from that speech yesterday. then I read this morning that NY pasted the strictest gun laws in the country, banning some rifles plus a limit on how many rounds a magazine can hold, 7round magazines and giving NY residents 1 year to sell any 10 or 30 round mags out of state. the bill has been passed by state senate and expected to be passed by house today or tomorrow. it’s not looking good,but like i said hope for the best prepare for the worst. SEMPER FI!

  45. Harold, a flat top is an ar with out a carry handle it has a picatinney rail that you can mount optics and or flip up rear sights, 5.56 is not the same as .223, a rifle chambered for 5.56 can fire both 5.56 and .223 but a rifle chambered for .223 cannot fire 5.56. as for the function of the rifle if you are not familar with the operation of your rifle or having trouble understanding the owners manual then you should go and take a NRA basic firearms course it will be the best fifty bucks you ever spent and lots of fun. good luck. SEMPER FI!

  46. @ Harold. Flat top refers to no carry handle and a pigitony rail down the top. You can shoot .223 out of a 5.56×45 but you don’t want to shoot the 5.56×45 out of a rifle not designed for them. 5.56×45 has more discharge pressure then the .233. And the cylinder thing your referring to is the forward assist. It helps push the bolt forward.

  47. I have been doing some research of this executive order stuff and it is not all cracked up to be what the mainstream media is saying. Yes the president can write out an executive order but there are senators coming up soon for vote. The senate has an exclusive right to override any presidential order. I think he might try to make another end run around the congress, but I don’t think he can do it on the Constitutional law. As I see it the liberal mainstream media is trying to scary the population into giving up their arms. The best thing I can advise is go get your membership into NRA and Gun Owners of America. Afford their dues and chip in what you can fight this thing. Constantly write e-mails and call your reps.

    I understand that last month the NRA increased its membership significantly. More Americans are in favor of firearms than are not. JPFO is another good organization. I know these groups cost and they are always after money. I always give something even if it is a dollar or two. They will annoy, they can annoy, they throw a lot of crap at you but you can toss the letters into the circular file.

  48. I agree! True greed. Saw a rusty no name AR-15 sell for $2,000 last weekend. Friend who owns a string of shows told me he pockets over $500K every weekend. He doubled the price of a booth last month and still haa a waiting list of suppliers wanting space. Show last weekend was in the largest convention hall in my big city (at least 500K square feet I’d guess). To a friend I used the comparison of those who sold the shovels and picks during the gold mining crazes. Only one miner in a thousand got rich in the Colorado circa 1878 gold rush but EVERY seller of equipment got rich. Greed and Fear are the two strongest human emotions (read psychology) and both are in play big time right now. Hear Obama’s carefully worded speech today? QUOTE “People are crazy to think the government is going to take ALL your guns away”. Key operative word is ALL. Few caught this – media already reporting “Obama promises to not touch Second Amendment”. BS. ALL guns. We’ll get to keep BB guns. The Far Left demagogues are evil but they are NOT dumb. Let them “get rich”. Unless the greedy sellers quickly change the paper into gold or silver then bury it they are trading items that could save their hides for soon to be worthless pieces of paper. Gun show prices – my limited collection of guns and ammo now worth more than my house! BUT mania is peaking (for now). This show was flat to down a bit from same show last month. Almost impossible to find ammo for the popular guns. Buy guns and club people with them I guess. Thank God I bought big time two years ago. $499 for a tricked out DPMS! Offered $4K for it now. Wow! Keeping it BTW. Ammo $2 a round for top quality AR-15 223’s. Totally beserk. Obama is making some people millionaires. For a short while before he takes it all away (and you too!)

    Like the old guy gray beard wearing a white robe walking around carrying a sign “THE END IS NEAR!” He is finally right! BTW 850% more people are killed by knives and “blunt instruments” ie fists than by guns. Pull out gang and drug shootings and you stand more of a chance being run over by an elephant than being shot with a gun. America is now FAR safer than the UK and Australia. Just the reverse before 1994 (when they confiscated private guns in those now DANGEROUS countries). Canada crime rate is now higher than US! Canada! Gun confiscation is first step to smelling gas. Make your stand NOW or after you only have those “blunt instruments” to “protect” yourself and family! Tough choice. Time where you MUST choose is VERY soon!

  49. I am a newbie trying to learn stuff. What is a “flat-top? is 5.56 same as .223? where can I get info on general operation (like this button does what?). What is the funny looking protrusion on rt. rear of ar’s?–is about 3/8” dia., cylindrical, protrudes about 1 or 1.25 inches?

  50. I have made it to most of the gun shows in my area for years and have always been able to find some good deals but i think those days are gone, at least for now. the last two shows i have seen the price of ar-15s double and the price of cheap aluminum magazines go from $8.00 to $45.00 and $50.00 a piece overnight,and p-mags going for as much as $80.00 and $90.00,talk about not letting a bad situation go to waste. I know it’s all about supply and demand at least that is the story being told. the last gun show jan 5&6th I seen quite a few vendors with cases and cases of brand new magazines so new the boxes didn’t even have any dents or creases in them, and if you have spent very much time at gun shows you know that those vendors drag that stuff around to every show and boxs don’t last that long. I understand everybody has to make a living but to gouge the very people that have kept you in business all these years is unacceptable in my opinion. I will continue to go to the shows and look for bargains because it’s still fun to look, but I won’t buy from someone who is trying to get rich overnight. SEMPER FI!

  51. Went to a big city gun show today. Been to most since day one. They’ve gone from once a year in a 100×100 hall to a 500k sq ft convention center. Now doing show every month! In dozens of cities! Bought a spare DPMS AR-15 two years ago at show for $499 (last 5 min of show – guy needed cash for gas – he had bought too many guns). Gun still sealed in box. Now had 500?? dealers there vs 20 early shows. Heard waiting list of exhibitors is LONG! Same dealer of two years ago BEGGED me to sell back to him the same gun $2,000 cash. NO WAY! Later I watched a nice clean but used BASIC no options off brand AR-15 sell for $2500! I saw the Benjamins – real deal! Wow! BUT show no longer bigger than last time — for first time – no growth – I think they’ve hit max. For now. Parking was the usual mile walk. Money in guns is now like selling picks to Alaska gold miners 1890. Up to 500% markup? I know disty cost of most guns. SUPPLIERS clean up! Op of show old friend of mine. Said he clears up to $500K CASH EVERY week (per show?)! He runs 8 shows every weekend in various big cities! Just happened to be at this one. Obama is making some folks VERY rich. Just not me. Sigh. But my collection and ammo now worth more than my house!

  52. I WATCHED THE HISTORY CHANNEL THIS WEEKEND. It was on the L.A.riots of 1992 I do believe that will be our biggest threat,a civil war fueled by our government with wealth distribution and trampling our constitutional rights. CONTROL. I’M a LIBERTARIAN I RESPECT U.S.CONSTITUTION LAW. The second amendment needs to be worth dying for. GOD FORGIVES OUTLAWS DONT

  53. Best selling AR-15 for 2013 will most likely be what ever has the cheapest price tag on it because, let’s face it, the prices have gone through the roof. Everyone is looking for a bargain just so they can afford to buy ammo, if they can find it. Best AR for the money is a rifle from BCM. As for the political crap going on around us, I don’t think anybody is really ready for what is about to happen. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. SEMPER FI!

  54. Barrycuda,You said it Bro…
    I was new to the AR scene about a year ago and got a Delton upper on a lower built locally.It’s Deadly accurate @ 350 yds(furtherest I’ve tried) and so tight I can’t get an accuwedge in it.The colt I was issued in the Army was a piece of crap(1/58th 197th mech.Inf.) and rattled like hell!I’m sure their are better,higher dollar rifles out there but if I were you-I wouldn’t attack me…
    Mr sniper,Please come to the front of the store….

  55. With AR-15’s on back order across the country and its price tripled in a year people would not be buying with abandon if they had ANY intention of registering their new purchases when the Feinstein idiocy passes.

    The originally annual Kansas City gun show held in a small coference room at a hotel went to quarterly then monthly and now is going to be twice a month or EVERY week! I know oneof the owners. Told me he clears $500K EVERY weekend! I was there last Saturday just after it opened. Parking was a mile walk!

    I heard that Sunday the fire marshall stopped new entrants for awhile when the crowd exceeded the legal limit in a 500,000 square foot hall!.

    I prefer the DPMS for the best “bang for the buck”. The same dealer who sold me one with all accessories etc. a year ago for $499 (last ten minutes of the show – I offered cash and he took it) this time had one lonely beat up old AR-15 for $1500! and was taking orders at up to $3,000 (for Colts) with delivery “whenever I get them if ever” – “pay CIA if you want to be on the list!!!”. Honest guy (I think!) told me he is “holding” over $2 million dollars in escrow for guns ordered in advance. Known him for years so he’s OK.

    Many “dealers” there doing the same cash in advance. Bet some are scams. People I never heard of. Our city is small enough that dealers know each other and people like me know almost everyone. He told me over half of the CIA sellers he never saw before. No clue who they are. NO checks – cash only! Not charging sales tax and just a hand scribbled CIA “receipt”.

    I predict a LOT of this is going on from Maine to California. People will be scammed out of mega millions. ONLY BUY FROM DEALERS YOU KNOW AND IF YOU CAN’T CARRY IT HOME – PASS! SPEND THE MONEY ON BALL BATS IF THAT’S ALL YOU CAN GET! Bought 1,000 rounds 223’s in July for $400. Now $1,000 at show and only had one box left amongst over 1,000 exhibitors! This was just after show opened! The seller then changed it to a silent bid auction telling me “I have one bid of $2,000 already – is it real? Even if not I”m sure he sold it for a lot more than $1,000 at his auction on Sunday. Dealer offered me $1500 cash for DPMS he sold me last year for $499. No WAY!

    Friend in TX just wrote me to say “media blackout but scoup is governor has activated TX Bational Guard and the “Texas Rangers” (99.9% just honory marching in parades but, technically, theY are badge carrying LAW ENFORCEMENT above powers assigned to highway patrol type cops”. Wrote me Perry is preparing to secede should Obama go after people’s guns. As most of you reading this know, TX is the only state with secession powers written in both federal and state laws. My friend said expecting invasion mostly from the south so they are “preparing” a 20 mile wide band on the southern border where all will be evacuated and it will become a free fire zone. True? I’m just the messenger. My friend (rural hill country near Austin) offered $3K for the AR-15 I sold him a year ago. Drove a 50 mile radius looking for ammo. After over 50 gun stores he gave up — only bullets were odd balls of guns I never heard of. TX is truly preparing to be the flashpoint for the AHBL moment in history. Not years and maybe not even months away. The “Awake Texans KNOW all guns could be turned in tomorrow and TPTB ultra rich/wealthy “Illuminati” MUST have a shooting war soon to keep their “plan” moving to their NWO and complete ownership of all of us body and soul. TX cannot keep thousands sitting waiting for the first gun shot and TPTB “evil ones” won’t wait either. All stops are off and this could begin at any moment. Are you among the 98% who are sheeple in denial or among the two percent who understand and accept reality as unbelievable as it is. Rurope said the same thing all during the 30’s. “We are civilized – such a thing could NEVER happen HERE!”. As well over ten million filled the ovens all over Germany. WW2 NEVER ended – it was just put in “time out” to regroup to come back stronger than ever. the whistle is about to blow. Submit or resist – no one will be allowed to “sit this one out”. Best to pick now — waiting until you are defenseless backed into a corner is idicoy of the highest order! “REMEMBER THE OBAMAMO!”.

  56. Obama did nothing his first term?…agreed with the UN for a global gun ban and signed a letter of intent…He did nothing with legislation waiting for his re-election so he could sign a executive order and by pass the people.
    Real Americans are going to first realize that Washington is the Largest terrorist cell in the world and remove the 535 mafia members that keep returning. This is no longer the land of the free.
    The foolish public goes on buying binges, with documents leading back to them….getting carry cards that allow for entry into your home.This allows for no search warrant( read the fine print) and we call it abiding by the law, Who’s law? If your gun is papered they know you have it and will come get it house by house in the still of the night.
    We are going to see very soon who will give up their guns…hopefully bullets first.
    WHERE is our Military that we fund to protect us ? Out killing women,children and innocent people that disagree with DC and ensuring profits for re-election campaigns.
    Think about it..Can that Taliban in that cave ever pose a threat to me or you? He is defending his land, you and I would do the same…The Politicians create the problem and send our country men to die for there greed of some other countries natural resources….Let the people with the problem go fight it out!!!!!Collectively we must change this broken system.

  57. Please realize that i am no fan of Obama, but since sandy hook, feinstein and the rest of the dem jackasses are the ones driving sales and prices of weapons like ice cubes in hell. Obama did nothing his first term with regard to gun restrictions or laws, its his buddy dems that are driving this madness. Gun manufacturers are reaping the whirwind sales currently underway, so until they do make their stupid laws…its having quite the opposite effect! The gun manufacturers will continue making gunswith cheap thumb stocks and 10round clips like they did years agobut make no mistake….they will be every bit as deadly as before the laws. So no worries

  58. The sales principle is as old as dirt (not CTD). Supply and Demand.
    How much are you asking for your piece? They are going like hot cakes.
    Did someone say the Russians are coming?
    Walmart is one of the largest Armory’s in the world and they have
    a waiting list for the good stuff.
    I find that some of the guys that tell me they “never miss” are rather
    gassy. During the Korean conflict, had the opportunity to fire the 45 pistol
    carbine,M1 Garrand, rifle grenade,mortar,bazooka, 30 and 50 cal. machine
    guns and a 105. This was in basic training. You will soon find your niche
    but requires lots of practice.

  59. With all due respect, the rifles on your list may be the ‘Best Selling’ but I’ve examined most of them at the larger gun shops / gun shows and for the money I wouldn’t take any of them over my S&W M&P 5.56 NATO chambered rifle w/ detachable carry handle. @ $950 it is a much better bang for the buck. Clover leaf to 1″ patterns easily at 100 yrds. And it too will shoot the heavier bullets.

  60. Wow, surprised this article was about best selling ar-15, but so many turn it to political statements. Obama this Obama that. Well even though he wants to restrict or make it harder to purchase or own one he still has to have any bill go through its channels. He can’t do all this on his own. Who is majority in house and senate? If its comming talk to your state reps and get them to vote no on it. It’s not all Obama.

  61. This is why I beame an FFL dealer and Ammo dealer in 98 I studied the Buzzard the crow and all birds of prey why(Circileing) paitients is key, fly low when plenty to eat(by) Fly(sell) high when supply can’t meet demand ,in this modern world, greed want, need and empathy is what our enimies want,hell even them Dem sheep who went along with the slaugter who voted for MR Oboyo have awaken $ is no problem for them!

    Now will you have a palce of refuge when the living dead come a knocken?

  62. Your best selling ar-15 article is now just a history lesson, unless the arch leftists can be stopped. Today, one cannot get one even though they are still legal because of the extreme shortage nationwide. The monster Obama wins again.

  63. We just need to remember we are free men. Bad laws have been passed before. The only sound course is to fight them and ignore them.

    One avenue I have not heard discussed is one or more States nullifying and new AWB making it explicitly legal to own, manufacture, sell, transfer and possess AR-15s, and semi-auto guns with 20 round magazines. The first state to do this will have a boom as people come there to buy guns and ammo.

    On an individual level hopefully no one will comply with demands for registration. As the events with the newspaper in New York show, government can not be trusted with that information. Registratoin = Confiscation. Resist.

    We’re all big boys here, so just suck it up and get used to the idea that you are going to be an outlaw. Maybe not what you had in mind for your later life, but it’s what the time requires.

    Resistance to tyrany is obedience to God.

    Resist much, obey little.

  64. I bought a windham src 2 days after sandy hook. I saw the writing on the wall and I’m glad I did. I also got as many 30rd mags, ammo, and accessories that I could afford. Because we allowed a tyrant to be re-elected, we will loss our rights slowly, but surely. Time for us to stand up and fight to impeach that tyrant.

  65. If you own an AR now, no one will be taking it from you. However, if we want to take them to the range, we might as well get ready to pay our fee, have it registered, and carry our “license”!!

  66. We have to keep it simple. Inform the public that Obama (et. al.) gets up every morning with the first thought to blow more money while distracting everyone with “hot topics”, e.g., gun control, tax rates, cutting military budgets, elimination of the debt ceiling, the list goes on and on.

    When I turn on the TV or radio and hear what Obama has just done is one more thing that blows away our money. He has an agenda to beat down those bad imperialists who stole the wealth of other underdeveloped countries just to put money in the pockets of the kings of economies world wide. I tend to agree with that notion, however, he wants to punish the capitalists and make them as poor as everyone else. That’s his long term plan for redistribution.

  67. I am new to the ar-15 but one thing I noticed as far as the best selling one goes I must say that just about anywhere I went or checked everyone had the colts, Daniel defence, bushmaster, but the one no one could keep.in stock was the mossberg mmr tactical. You got an email when they arived but if you didn’t act on it whithin a couple hours it was sold out once again. I finally after three months playing the waiting game got mine. I like the mossberg and for the price can’t hardly beat it. So in my honest opinion of the company can’t manufacture enough to keep them in stock they must have been a real hot seller and should have been toward the top. I did also notice ctd did not carry tho model. They did carry the mmr hunter version though which is the hunting model. Thank you for allowing me to post this opinion.

  68. They may raise my taxes,they may may make it where I cant afford to buy another gun.But I can tell them one thing try to take the ones I own now!BAD DAY

  69. Nice to see things getting back to “normal”. When will these got back on the website. Will you also be selling stripped lowers soon?

  70. Guys, I think you are remiss if you do not mention the fine qualities of the
    Sig Sauer. I have never seen this brand mentioned on CTD but never-the-less,
    it is one of the finer weapons. I considered all of the above and chose the
    Sig Sauer M400 with scope. True, the scope is limited (3 Power), but I will
    not be shooting at anything beyond the sight of the scope. The history of this
    gun maker is unmatched. The rifle is extradonarily durable and watch precision.
    My own age and eye sight restrict my activity but I believe that I made the right
    choice. With all the so called panic buying now, my rifle will bring twice the
    price I paid (but it is not for sale).

  71. Keep up the good work CTD. My Rock River LAR 15 with Mueller scope is very very accurate. Hopefully all this nonsense will die down and cooler heads will prevail.

  72. Scott- How correct you are. I am certain the idea behind everything the hysteria, the (staged) shootings in public places, and the politicians will try and do one thing. Not Ban guns, or assault rifles, but make them and the ammo so high priced the only people that will be purchasing them are people in a higher income bracket. After all the law says they cannot take our guns, it doesnt say a thing about taxing the sales so much we cannot afford them. All I can say is…Buy an AK…While not as precise a weapon and with fewer “accessories” in the aftermarket, a big hunk of lead flying down range with a proven reliability is my idea of an “assault” weapon. CTD how about a best selling AK for 2013? or best options for an AK?

  73. I’m not at all surprised that the Windham AR came in first. When I did my shopping in the middle of 2012 it did not take long for me to figure out that it was an excellent rifle at an excellent price. Still seems like a lot of folks are not familiar with the Windham name, but they ought to be.

  74. In reality Obama just helped make you and I make a windfall profit! Your gun and ammo are worth more than ever and will not decrease in value. A war against drugs is on, still on every corner you can buy drugs. The government is illegal and you play into them,stop worrying about what they are gonna do,it makes no difference. Help crash the economy by hiding your money, eliminate your debt,evaporate your identity. Focus on being pro-active, its a big game, play the game better.
    What is amazing to me is that every post compares Obama to Nazi,Stalin ect but yet we all put him back into office. The public reminds me of the Jews being walked to the chambers. When are the real citizens going to demand accountability and enforce what our forefathers died for?

  75. When I went looking for an AR I did a lot of web searching and discovered the Windham story. Hadn’t shot anything like this since the M-16 I used 45 years ago. Nice rifle, great price.

  76. “What will the top AR15 of 2013 be?

    My answer is simple… The one that you own when the Obama gun Nazi`s put a new gun ban in effect! The plain and simple facts are that no gun control law can protect you or your family / loved ones from the acts of a criminal or insane mind, period. Criminals never did and never will care about laws and crazy people don`t know the difference. This fact is completely lost in the minds of gun grabbing politicians. They think taking away our guns will make America safer, when in fact the opposite is true. Every criminal in America loves restrictive gun laws because they make their “job” much safer and easier at the same time.
    Chicago has some of the most restrictive gun laws on the USA and they had over 500 people murdered there last year. How are those gun laws working out in the Windy City? Answer, not good. Gun free zones get more people killed by guns than any other law in the USA. They create defense free soft targets that nuts love because they know no one will likely be shooting back because your average legal gun owner is also a law abiding person.
    So, again my anwer for the most popular AR15 in 2013 is the one I currently own, a Smith and Wesson M&P 15 Sport because with the hysteria that is going on today, I won`t be able to afford to buy another AR15 in my lifetime. If ammo doesn`t come back down in price, it won`t matter because nobody will be able to afford to shoot one either.
    Anyone think that is part of Obama`s gun control plan too? I do.

  77. Obama and his thug party are not to be trusted. They want an insane so-called assault weapons ban/new law. The last one on effected us, the law abiding citizen–not the criminal types.

  78. I always enjoy reading your posts. Thank you for them. I have always wanted an original AR-15, modeled after the Viet Nam era M-16, with triangle front stock, solid rear stock, forward bolt assist, .223 cal., with rear sightcarrying handle, in olive drab color. If you can ever find one for me, I will buy it.

    Thank you, Ralph Lauretano

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