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Obama’s AR-15 ammunition ban is under fire from both the public and Congress. It is important to understand the issue, the facts, and the Whitehouse’s rhetoric, misdirection and untruths.

Obama to Outlaw .223 Ammunition (M855) Through Executive Action

It is doubtful that anyone reading this article will truly be surprised that Obama and his cronies in key government posts are trying to once again de facto suppress our Second Amendment rights. They were not able to make it happen through the legislature, but Obama has his phone and his pen. Currently, it seems the President is using both to target gun owners, specifically owners of AR-15s. If you can’t outlaw the guns, get rid of the ammunition.

3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban

The BATFE is only considering comments received by March 16, 2015. Act now and help spread the word! Contact the BATFE via email at APAComments@atf.gov and express your opposition to the BATFE proposal to ban common rifle ammunition used by millions of gun owners. Remember to proofread your comment and ensure it is concise. Alternatively, you can use the suggested text in this article. Here are all of the ways to weigh in and make your voice heard by the BATFE to stop this backdoor gun control measure.

Obama’s Attempt to Ban of M855 Ammunition — Are We Making a Difference?

Your actions are starting make a difference. Unfortunately, President Obama is still tone deaf to our rights under the Second Amendment, but Congress is not. Even mainstream news outlets, both print and TV are covering Obama’s use of his pen and phone to institute backdoor gun control. Here is how to contact your senators and representatives and let your voice be heard.

White House Claims the AR-15 Ammo Ban is Only to Protect Cops

Feel-good messages that have nothing to do with the proposed ammunition ban. The Whitehouse press secretary’s own words show the intent to limit access to firearms—in opposition to the Second Amendment i.e. gun control—thorough executive action. Eliminating access to M855 ammunition by lawful firearm owners and users is supposed to magically prevent a bad person from getting a gun or using it to commit murder? The logic and spin is astounding. For every Supporter of the Second Amendment, this is a MUST READ.

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Comments (116)

  1. Timely suggestions – I am thankful for the info – Does anyone know if my assistant might be able to locate a sample a form example to fill out ?

  2. In reply to James regarding supporting the NRA;

    If the NRA is the only Dog we have in the fight, then we need to all unite and find another Dog to put in this fight because the NRA is “Controlled Opposition”. The NRA supported both the 1934 NFA and the Gun Control Act of 1968. Fidelity to the Constitution and adherence to the “Rule of Law” is really all we need. Absent an amendment to the Constitution which alters or modifies the “Right to bear arms” (and which has never been done), the 2nd Amendment stands as written. There is my opinion a very meritorious legal argument that can be made that would nullify all gun control laws across the nation. Please read my earlier lengthy comment in which I explain just want I mean.

    AC

  3. But gun control works, just ask the Nazis. My grandfather fought in Europe in WW2, the locals told him the first thing the “party” did was gun registration. And guess what? It was under the guise of protecting the local law enforcement. Does this sound familiar to anyone?
    Something about those who don’t learn from history are damned to repeat it?
    Support the NRA, they are the only dog we have in the fight.

  4. i been saying this, Hitler I mean Obama thinks He is fooling US .He is trying to help His follow Muslims* THE BROTHERHOOD so HE can be A DIC..TATER And GET rid of MY’;OUR Constitution Then KILL ALL NON MUSLIMS. ISN’T HE a nice FOOL . ARE WE going let Him?? Sound’s like Germany 1932-45 One diff Americans/and Jews.
    Muslims are trying to take over this country since the last ww2. a miner told me this 30 years ago.people think i’m nuts when i talk about all the going on.

  5. When is congress going to get smart and try that treasonous person and punish to the fullest. ( can I help ) To date I have counted up to 95 counts. I believe congress Fears Obama. WHY?

    1. Because if our 1st black president is impeached, the black populace will scream racism and as they usually do, they will lose their minds and riot.

  6. I’ve done a little investigation into pricing of AP ammunition. Sense the fed’s have tried their political maneuvering to get this type of ammunition banned for no valid reason, the price has increased dramatically. Now, a single round of AP 308 ammunition is well over the price of a 50cal round…ie… $20 for 5 rounds. And forget about purchasing the projectiles only…ie… $100+ for 50 bullets. There is serious gouging going on by manufacturers. There is no question, this needs serious attention. Not only is the government trying to take advantage of law abiding citizens but manufacturers of components are as well.

  7. Why ban any ammo I’m a family man with six kids we all get together and shoot at the family ranch once à month at the shooting range in the back yard if they take away the guns and ammo I feel like that’s what keeps the outsiders from invading America that ever American citizens are armed I stand for the second amendment right to bear arms they should make ammo cheaper and plentiful my grandfather started me out target shooting when I was about five years old with a Remington Speedmaster and I’ve passed that tradition down to my kids that’s what its all about family any man with kids would do anything to protect them from harm the president has body guards to protect him and his family its not fare to us if you take that away from ever American to protect there family god bless keep it going to protect the second amendment

  8. I am pissed off, 1. any ammo ban is just wrong. 2. I did not see this much unity and concern about the 7n6 5.45×39 ammo ban. The 7n6 was the “INCH” now the M855 is the “MILE”.. The 5.45 is under 22.cal specs and there is no hand gun on the market that fires it. But I think the 7n6 ban goes deeper, just by seeing the news, videos of isis pigs. I think good America sportsman & target shooters was buying up most of 7n6 and the isis pigs needed it. The gov stopped import of it and 50% of news videos show ak74’s in the hands of these killers. You can tell by the curve of the mags 5.45 mag have less of a curve than the 7.62×39 (ak47)… They got our 7n6 soon maybe M855 “AND THEN WHAT” Like I said ALL bans are bad, let WE THE PEOPLE decide what we want to send down range. God Bless the U.S. We need his help.

  9. I am a vet. and served in Viet Nam and I beleive we all have our rights as Americians to purchase any ammo and guns we desire and NO goverment regardless who they are have the right to say what we purchase. They are too many Americans out there that will take up arms and show any one who desires to take our rights from us. If they think we are kidding,just let them try. I am fed up with Obama with his rules and regulations.

  10. What our govt. fails 2 realize us that no matter what people use guns everyday. Most of us use them 4 sport and 4 protection. Some of us 4 over reasons. If they try 2 take guns out of the hands of us, responsible Americans, that only leaves the bad guys with weapons who defy the govt anyhow. That doesn’t make any sense but politics and govt. never does. Our 2nd amendment rights were put in place many years ago with good reason. U take God out of schools, and out of our Country and this is what u get. We need 2 get back 2 our original America. People need 2 wake up and realize the world is a horrible place and we need 2 take a stand!

  11. I am so dam tired of having to watch these sneaky politicians that try to deprive us of our 2ND AMMENDMENT RIGHTS as a CITIZEN NOT A SUBJECT!!!!!. It is time to end all this prohibition BULL SPIT!!! Prohibition didn’t work for alcohol, pot or any other substance!!! What makes an educated man so stupid that he thinks prohibiting guns &/or ammo will solve the problem??? I see this country changing! The wimpy college educated frightened city folks passing laws against the common folks!!!! We are no longer (of the People, by the People, for the people!!) It seems like the people are being pushed around by (of the money, by the money, for the money!!) What common man has a chance to fund a political campaign? NO CHANCE IN HELL THAT’S WHAT THE COMMON MAN = THE PEOPLE HAVE. EVERY BALLOT SHOULD HAVE A SLOT THAT SAY’S NO CONTEST!! IF THE CANDIDATES ARE BEATEN BY THE NO CONTEST VOTE, THEN A NEW CAMPAIGN SHOULD BE HELD WITH ALL NEW CANDIDATES!!! I FEAR A GOVERNMENT THAT FEARS MY GUN!!!

  12. BHO and company, don’t really believe that this will solve anything but the ego of their base. It is however, a nibble, and if they can get this one off the launch pad there will be bigger nibbles and larger bites at our individual liberties and rights.

    You see the Progressives don’t believe in personal rights, they’d rather be in a position where the government issues the rights, which would be few and far between and change at the whim of the elite. This was Teddy Kennedy’s idea of a couple of decades ago .. or so. If they want to keep their guns, fine, we’ll just ban the bullets.

    Another problem is that I believe that there are many of those RINO’s who would go along with this. What ever the Progressives can get by the American people, then at a later time they would be able to use the same tactics themselves. I’ve seen some pretty scary “Executive Orders” which really should be reversed or deleted by Republicans when they came to power.. but were not …hummm?

  13. This is the same federal administration that wants to legalize pot and “redistribute” my hard earned wages so his supporters can sit around stoned all day.

    But please remember, he was voted in twice. Many of you and/or your friends did not take the time to vote. I am 52 years old and I have never once missed my voting obligation. It takes less time to vote than it takes to buy a case of beer – AND YOU DON’T NEED ID TO VOTE.

  14. I was born in this country with the right to own firearms , and uncle sam just the same obliged me with one for three years during Viet Nam and two of my brothers as well, he did the same with my father and three of my uncles during WW II . So i guess our Govt officials are under the misunderstanding that we only get to have guns when the Govt needs us to have them . Well I got news for them ! They can make all the laws they want , don’t amount to a hill of beans anyhow , We all know what the 2nd amendment says , we also know that there are some 300 million guns in the hands of Americans and that we are not giving them back , SO JUST DEAL WITH IT !!

    1. When we allow ailens have wright to vote and we are going to let this socialist goverment to tell how we should live .That is not what our founders ment to leve us with only the rights they want to leve us with.

      Tom fair 101 Pine hollow
      Fl. 34223

  15. The intent of the writers of the second amendment was that the right of the people to bear arms as a protection for a free state against the very tyranny of govt, that Obama and the gun controllers want to impose.But the real problem stems from a decades old liberal dominated education system that has been allowed to indoctrinate generations of young people into a socialist anti-American world view.

  16. Unless you are willing to submit to the same atrocities Hitler dealt to those unwilling to bow to his demands; then the time to stand and be counted as defenders of the Constitution is now. The Nazi’s were but a warning as to what we can expect today. Learn from history, do not bury your heads, and know that if we lose the 2nd. amendment, we are no longer in possession of the ability to preserve the rest of our constitutional rights. Fight for our rights guaranteed by God, not by man and remove this cancer from our land.

  17. Arizona, Republican Gov. Jan Brewer
    Brewer struck down a law — passed earlier this month by the state legislature — that would allow people with concealed carry permits to bring their guns into buildings that lack security guards and metal detectors at the entrance.

  18. Just how many law officiers have been killed with this type of ammo in the last fifteen years…all the bad guys are walking around with AR-15 ready to do them in?? ..B.S…the next on the list will be shotguns ETC..sound like the happenings down under all over again….we should all go to the polls at voteing time to get rid of this phony American…

  19. I hunt and target shoot and that is my past time I don’t buy ammo to rob or stick up people this is all I do since I retired form the sheriff department my boat is old and gas is too high for me to fish so the only thing I do is target shoot with other old men hunting season we hunt there are no cause for us not to be able to get ammo for our guns we don’t break any Laws and don’t plan to and I have been beat down and robbed and shot at one time so I need to be able to protect my self and Family and that is my right as a citizen .

  20. I don’t even own an AR-15. My son was in Afghanistan and he told me that their armor( which is what most cops wear) can take several rounds of .223/5.56 rounds before penetration occurs. As for the ammo itself I believe that most people that buy it are NOT shooting at cops or plan too. Unfortunately politicians are oblivious to this and probably never even gone to a range or hunted in their lives. if the shoe was on the other foot and we as a nation took away their right as an American citizen to not have gas for their cars it would be unthinkable.

    1. Heath,
      Sir, thanks to your son for his selfless service to defend the our freedom and freedom the same people who would take away his and our freedoms. I have worn many different uniforms over years and can tell you ANY rifle round (not just the evil green tip) will zip through soft armor. What your son is referring to is the SAPI ceramic plates inserted into our armor which stops rifle rounds, yes even the evil green tip. So, in my profession we simply wear the SAPI plates and it does the job. Don’t drink the gun grabbers kool aid, Sir. Your Son is a hero for serving whether he never speaks of it, most don’t.

  21. I am a tax paying red blooded american and I love my ar-15 .223 and now the President whants my amo . What a load of spit (sorry). Thank you

  22. If the Government is going to ban the ability of the citizens to protect themselves, then the citizens should work within the framework of the Constitution to eliminate Government inept and complex services such as the DHS and the USSS. As well, the families of those in political office should have to pay to provide their own private security and not on the Government dime. The same for former Presidents and their families. End the free ride on the taxpayers coat tails. Are the lives of your spouse, children or grandchildren any less precious to you than those of public servants? I think not! In this country we (presently) have the ability to VOTE and ask our elected representatives to enact bills which can become law (unless vetoed by using a pen and piece of paper in the current executive branch). The time to consider these efforts is now before we also lose the right to contact these elected officials and voice our opinions without fear of retaliation. Act civil within the frame work of the law, learn your rights as a free citizen of the greatest country in the world, threaten no one with violence and press the political issues you are most passionate about using available resources. A house divided can not stand. United we stand.

  23. Let us ponder these quotations of Vladimir Iliych Lenin (1870-1924), who was the founder of the Soviet Communist Party:

    “Democracy is indispensable to socialism.”

    “The goal of socialism is communism.”

    “A lie told often enough becomes the truth.”

    “Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism.”

    “Our schoolteacher should be raised to a standard he has never achieved, and cannot achieve, in bourgeois society. This is a truism and requires no proof.”

    “Give me four years to teach the children and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted.”

    “Give us the child for eight years and it will be a Bolshevik forever.”

    “We must hate, hatred is the basis of communism. Children must be taught to hate their parents if they are not communists”.

    “The press should be not only a collective propagandist and a collective agitator, but also a collective organizer of the masses.”

    “Literature must become party literature. Down with unpartisan litterateurs! Down with the superman of literature! Literature must become a part of the general cause of the proletariat.” [Extend this thought also to the entertainment media.]

    ”The way to crush the bourgeoisie is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation.”

    “The best way to destroy the capitalist system is to debauch the currency.”

    “To rely upon conviction, devotion, and other excellent spiritual qualities; that is not to be taken seriously in politics.”

    “There are no morals in politics; there is only expedience. A scoundrel may be of use to us just because he is a scoundrel.”

    “It is true that liberty is precious – so precious that it must be rationed.”

    “While the State exists there can be no freedom; when there is freedom there will be no State.”

    “One man with a gun can control 100 without one.”

    “A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie.”

    “America can only be destroyed from within.”

    It is my humble opinion these quotations seem to describe the syllabus of our education system and the master plan of government at all levels…

  24. First, to be clear, I am totally against what Obama and the ATF are atempting. They are trying to circumvent proper judicial procedure, and that is unconstitutional. Not to mention that their reasons for the ban are without merit.

    I am all for the 2nd Ammendment, and I own and shoot a variety of firearms, including AR-15’s. I’ve never used the M855 rounds, for the reason that I shoot at indoor ranges frequently, as well as steel matches, and they don’t allow steel jacketed ammo, as it damages their back stops and targets. Other than that, I have no particular bias against it’s use.

    That being said, I can see where the firearms and ammunition industries have brought this on themselves.

    For years, M855 ammo has been marketed as “light armor piercing”, even though that isn’t what it was really designed for. It just sounds cool, and sells better. The ATF, long ago, banned armor piercing ammo for handguns, and nobody that I know of sells any, but since M-855 is rifle ammunition, it received an exemption. So along comes some “genius” who wants to get around the short-barreled rifle restriction. So he removes the stock from an AR-15, and calls it a “handgun”, and pats himself on the back for his ingenuity. But wait, now you have a handgun that can fire readily available “armor-piercing ammo. It seems to me that their attempts to get clever with the regulations has inadvertently stirred up a hornets nest.

    Maybe this should be a wakeup call to the industry. When you blatantly try to exploit loopholes in the firearms laws, some anti gun extremist is going to overreact, and try to close them.

  25. First, to be clear, I am totally against what Obama and the ATF are atempting. They are trying to circumvent proper judicial procedure, and that is unconstitutional. Not to Merion that their reasons for the ban are without merit.

    I am all for the 2ND ammendment, and I own and shoot a variety of firearms, including AR-15’s. I’ve never used the M855 rounds, for the reason that I shoot at indoor ranges frequently, as well as steel matches, and they don’t allow steel jacketed ammo, as it damages their back stops and targets. Other than that, I have no particular bias against it’s use.

    That being said, I can see where the firearms and ammunition industries have brought this on themselves.

    For years, M855 ammo has been marketed as “light armor piercing”, even though that isn’t what it was really designed for. It just sounds cool, and sells better. The ATF, long ago, banned armor piercing ammo for handguns, and nobody that I know of sells any, but since M-855 is rifle ammunition, it received an exemption. So along comes some “genius” who wants to get around the short-barreled rifle restriction. So he removes the stock from an AR-15, and calls it a “handgun”, and pats himself on the back for his ingenuity. But wait, now you have a handgun that can fire readily available “armor-piercing ammo. It seems to me that their attempts to get clever with the regulations has inadvertently stirred up a hornets nest.

    Maybe this should be a wakeup call to the industry. When you blatantly try to exploit loopholes in the firearms laws, some anti gun extremist is going to overreact, and try to close them.

    1. ??? Why has Obama not been tried for Treason. The first thing He said after his oath of office, “the only thing holding Me back is the dam Constitution.” I have counted no less then 35 Counts of treason in his first 3 mounts of office in His first term. Why is our congress afraid of him. A hundred years ago he would have been tied to a post offered a black hood. You know the rest! His second term He got caught on TV telling the Russians, he will have more power (wink). What dose that mean? (TREASON)

  26. The endless discussion on gun control and now ammunition control never deals with facts. There are approximately 33,000 deaths a year by firearms in the United States. About two thirds of those deaths are suicides ( 22,000) and the balance (11,000) homicides, accidents, etc.I won’t note the disproportionate number of the 11,000 deaths that occur in our black communities. That would be labled unfair and racist. The left agenda to deflect attention when they are scrambling or trying to ralley something to breath some life into this fiasco called the Obama administration. I cannot find one report of a police officer fatality by the .223 round ? Our president may want to rally the troops on stricter smoking bans….smoking deaths in the US are around 450,000 a year and alcohol related deaths are around 25,000 a year. Now those numbers should rally his Hollywood buddies around the flag. I know, don’t confuse things with facts.

  27. The laws that Congress passes are only good on Federal property and property they own like Guam, Virgin Island and Porto Rico.
    They did not have the power to run off the led manufacturers and now they want to ban the M885 ammo.

    They can ban it on Federal property only.

  28. nobody needs a weapon to cause a uprising , the biggest uprising to the govt. would be to stop working, they need our money more than our weapons.

  29. We Americans live in a country, where we, the people, are the government. Therefore, we have the power to change what we deem unlawful. If we feel the individuals who we hired by voting them into office, are not doing the job we want them to, we have the power to get rid of them. So, let’s impeach them, and send the message, that we will not accept people, those individual we put in office, telling us what we can and cannot do, when we know, collectively that what they are attempting to do, is wrong. We have the power!

  30. Why is it that they are going after the M855 ammo? They say that it is for the safety of our law enforcement officers. This has got to be the first steps to taking away our 2nd amendment rights. They can say oh no we are not out to take away your rights or you firearms, but I find that hard to believe. The reason I find that hard to believe is because the M855 ammo is no deadlier than any other center fire rifle round. If you know anything about law enforcement officers vests that they wear, you know that they are not designed to stop a high velocity rifle round, whether it be M855 or the regular old hunting round. The vests are designed to stop low velocity pistol rounds. In saying that, even if they were to ban the M855 ammo, it would still not stop someone who has the intent to murder someone from doing so. The criminals will always have their firearms and ammo, because they are just that, criminals. They don’t care what the law states. Guns and ammo don’t kill people. People kill people. Long story short banning this ammo would only defy the law abiding citizens from being able to enjoy the sporting fun of being able to shoot economically.

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