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Shotguns: The Best Home Defense Tool Ever Made

IAC Hawk Model 982

I was serving in the Persian Gulf during the L.A. Riots in the early ‘90s. I called home on a MARS station (Military Auxiliary Radio System) to see if everyone was safe and out of danger. My mother answered the phone and said she could see fires burning from three different directions. From 8,000 miles away, I instructed her to get a pump shotgun from the spare room and made sure she knew how to load it. She was worried. I assured her the sound of chambering a round was very distinctive, and if she was really worried about shooting someone to touch a round off into the ceiling—no one would likely stick around to see if she got more accurate with the second shot. She assured me if came to that, I would not have to worry about patching a hole in her ceiling. That’s my mom… I think she grabbed the well-suited Mossberg 500 back then. I am from the school that believes the bigger the bore, the better the boom in a home defense situation. But by no means is that statement meant to discourage someone from using a 20-gauge or a .410. I would prefer something bigger and feel most anyone can handle one, but in the end, a small gun you can wield is better than no gun or the one you are afraid of handling.

IAC Hawk Model 982
Interstate Arms Hawk Model 982 is a super buy at $199 and a solid home defense or behind the truck seat shotgun.
Recently one of the best, low-cost options for a security shotgun to cross my path is the Interstate Arms Hawk Model 981R and Model 982. Am I alone? Hardly. I have not checked the numbers lately, but a few months back it was our top selling firearm. I am sure price has a lot to do with it, but when your life could possibly be on the line, it has to work reliably, the first and every time.

Next to the Mossberg 500, I would say the next most popular shotgun for home defense over the years is the Remington 870. Thinking about it, mom would have been just as likely to have grabbed an 870 that day several decades ago, but I digress. The Interstate Arms Hawk Model 982 is close, actually very close, to being a direct clone of the Remington 870. Not all of the parts are interchangeable, but many are.

As the old saying goes, “You can’t step into the ring with Ali just because you say you can box.” And so I decided to take a closer look at the Model 982 and see just how close and reliable it really is.

Interstate Arms Hawk Models 981R & 982

Okay, let’s be upfront and start with the downside. This shotgun is basically a Chinese-made Remington 870 manufactured by Norinco and imported by Interstate Arms. That is a turnoff for many, which I understand completely. Leave a comment if you’d like, but we all get it.

Nonetheless, it is still our top seller, so a lot of people have looked past its origin.

The IAC Hawk does a great job of doing exactly what the manufacturer intended it to do, which is to be a rugged, home-defense gun—and it comes in two different flavors. Because it is patterned after one of America’s favorite 12-gauge pumps, the IAC Hawk 981R features a machined solid-steel receiver, 18.5-inch barrel, 3-inch chamber and bead sight. This traditional pump-action model is fitted with polymer stocks, recoil pad and comes decked on a black matte finish. Distinguishing the Model 981R from her sister, is the picatinny rail topping the receiver for your favorite optic and a bead sight.

The Model 982 is identical with all the same features including a 5+1 capacity, but has preinstalled ghost ring sights instead of a rail—and if you have priced out ghost rings lately that is a great deal. The price? $199. However, I am a bird hunter and occasionally get out for a round of skeet, trap or sporting clays. Therefore, I am not a big fan of sights on a shotgun—turkey guns and slug guns for deer would be an exception of course, but those are longer-range guns. In a home defense situation, just eye your target; you’ll hit what you’re looking at, so either model is great.

Other than that, it is hard to knock the construction. The extractor and ejector are machined which beats its American counterpart that uses MIM (metal injection molded) parts. As mentioned, the receiver is steel as is the trigger guard.

Times are tough and everyone’s looking for a deal these days. Often, that means you get what you pay for. The IAC Hawk, however, seems to be an exception and provides plenty of quality at a great price. In fact, although it hurts me to admit, better quality at a fraction of the price of some of my favorite guns.

Specifications and Features

  • Caliber: 12-gauge
  • Barrel Length: 18.5 inches
  • Chamber: 3-inch
  • Capacity: 5+1
  • Stock: Polymer
  • Finish: Matte black finish
  • Receiver: Machined, solid steel
  • Sights: Adjustable ghost ring sights
  • Length: 38.5 inches in overall length
  • Weight: 7 pounds
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Comments (41)

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  2. I’ve seen some pretty bad information in this thread. First off a shotgun does NOT have a huge dispersal pattern as has been suggested. At 30 feet your average shotgun spread will be about 5″. And 30 feet inside a house is a long way. Second it is easy to reload a shotgun as you are firing almost. You shoot a round and feed another round in the bottom if you’re using a pump. A butt cuff can allow you to carry 5 or 6 extra rounds. Add that to a true HD shotgun (mine holds 5 rounds in the tube) and that’s 10 rounds on the gun. If you are in your defense position, which you should be with your phone, you can store extra ammo there.

    You won’t have as much ammo available as you do with many handguns but you won’t need as many either. Keep in mind that a 12 ga., 00 buck shell holds 9 pellets that are bigger than a .32 caliber bullet (each one is bigger) so in effect you are firing your pistol 9 times every time you pull the trigger. A 20 ga. will fire smaller pellets so IMO they are not as effective as a 12 ga..

    Also forget that stuff about scaring an intruder with the sound of a shotgun being racked. The first sound they should hear from you should be the last sound they ever hear – boom. If you go for the gun you should be prepared to use it.

    The one and only drawback of a shotgun is they are longer than handguns. That can cause problems getting off the shot you want to fire. But you will have far less over penetration. It really depends on your situation. If you live all alone in a remote country location you may want a battle carbine type weapon (AR-15, SKS, AK, etc.). If you live in an apartment building you may want to use a sword. They can be very effective especially if they are short enough to work in tight spaces. I have a machete (about the same length of a short sword). It will take your arm off at the wrist very quickly. I’ve seen it cut through 2.5″ of tree limb without slowing down. Likely as not you’ll have to learn to sharpen one to that level.

  3. In answer to Joe. No, handguns are far more likely to cause collateral damage than a shotgun loaded with bird shot. Handgun bullets penetrate walls much better than birdshot, and do more damage after penetrating a wall than birdshot. Fire your hand gun into a simulated wall sometime (especially sheetrock) and see the damage it will do on something on the other side. A handgun round might even exit the body of a perpetrator and kill or greatly harm someone else in a house, a load of birdshot will not.

    Of course any gun is better than no defense BUT, loaded with buckshot the shotgun is the very best defensive weapon within fifty yards, loaded with birdshot nothing is better in less than ten yards (which IS the distance inside most rooms in a house).

    And last but not least, NOTHING scares the hell out of a criminal, and I mean nothing< as much as the sound of the racking of a pump shotgun or the snap of a double barrel being slammed shut. Well except maybe the boom from one going off! 😉

    Gem

  4. I think shotguns are great guns, but may not be the best option for the home. The risk of collateral damage is too high. Instead of taking out a home intruder, you may end up injuring one of your loved ones. I myself prefer handguns – to each his own.

    I made a list of the best guns for home defense. Let me know what you think. Keep up the great blog! -Joe

  5. A “Loaded and Ready Gun” next to you, is the best home defense. Those guns locked away in a Gun Safe are useless, when seconds count. On Average, within 5 seconds an Intruder Thug could easily kick in the average Front Door of any home, with a gun pointed at you. Just be ready physically and mentally to hit back faster and harder. Boom Boom!! Boom Boom!!

  6. Heck, there are still many a folk that use a good old “Coach-Gun” for HD. I love how that term has never left our traditional “lexicon”–How many times have you uttered the words “I’ve Got Shotgun” when heading out as a kid with Mom&Dad, Sister and Brother on a trip (back when Gas was affordable, the grass was green and life just seemed so much better (man I guess I’m showing my age…).

  7. In the heat of the moment ANYONE can short stroke a pump. Personally I prefer a Benelli but can find no fault with many gas operated semi’s as they simply kick less and are just as dependable if cleaned. Of course they do lack that wonderful sound of a racking pump gun. I believe many lives (mostly criminals who decided they enjoyed living) have been saved by that wonderful sound.

    Since the gun grabbers seem to wish to save criminals they should require all AR owners to have a pump shotgun. Once a criminal came through a window into my house late at night; when I was supposed to be away. I woke to hear my wife racking a shell into that shotgun and asking the guy if he wanted to get shot. He immediately dived back through the window and ran like hell. Which actually in all likelihood saved his life. If she had simply screamed he would have kept coming and surely have died from what I would have done immediately afterwords.

    Police friends tell me that the sound of a 870 being jacked has saved unbelievable numbers of criminals who seemed willing to fight until they heard that distinctive sound of the “Opening of Heavens Gate”.

    By the way, I am always amazed by all that crap that has come out for fools to “add to a shotgun”. Other than that tube extension to put in a few extra rounds all those add on’s do is screw up what has evolved for four hundred years into the quickest handling weapon anywhere. Otherwise people would use something else to shoot fast moving quail. The same thing that works for them works amazingly well on humans.

    Remember it was not the Colt, nor the Winchester in the hands of a man that actually “Won the West”. It was a plain old shotgun in the hands of a scared woman standing in front of a bunch of scared kids that really did. The man was off doing manly things like hunting or some such thing leaving her to do most of the work and all of the protecting of those kids. Of course that never played as well on television or at the Movies. 🙂

  8. Gem,

    I can’t find anything I would disagree with in your post–some good stuff there (thank you for your service BTW). I have both pumps and semi-autos and I too would go to either my 1187P or Saiga-12 over my Mossberg Pumps. For those of you who may be familiar with good old Hickok45 on YouTube (guy shoots as well as anyone I have ever seen in terms of the sheer variety of weaponry) has a very good video comparing the pump vs. semi action shotgun. Even he short-strokes the pump.

  9. Mark probably is well covered with a 10/22, high capasity 9MM as long as he has a shotgun in his “Urban” environment. After all be probably will not be faces with trained hardened soldiers but criminals. As for the AR or AK versus a shotgun arguement that shotgun he has if it has a 8 round capacity FAR exceeds an AR or an AK for enemy suppression rounds. It will fire 96 ,33 caliber “bullets” in less time than it takes to fire thirty and reload a semi-auto AK. This by the way is not speculation, but from experience of soldiers in the field from the trenches of France in WW1, to the jungles of Vietnam where I have personal experience. With #4 Buck that is about 280 rounds of .24 caliber in the same time space. Sure in open country a rifle might be better but when the range comes down to under 40 yards their is no comparison. Urban war fare is house to house or on your front steps, NOT 100 yards!

    With that said there is a reason veteran police officers say, “If you ever want to know what the sound of the Gates of heaven opening listen to the sound of a twelve guage pump being jacked”. But from experience I know that even seasoned veterans will sometimes short stroke a pump in the heat of close combat. Making it of little more use than as a clumsy club. For that reason I feel that a semi-automatic short barreled (20 to 24 inch)shotguns are the best home or “Urban” defense weapons. Especially when backed up with a high capacity 9MM handgun for when you might set the shotgun down.

    For home defense a shotgun in my opinion should hold the first 2 rounds of # 4 or 6 birdshot, followed by 2 rounds of #1 buck, followed by a slug, followed by 2 rounds of 00 buck, followed by a #4 buck for when the others have failed and you are about to need to reload real fast or pull that 9MM. 🙂

    And I pray you will never have to use that #4 buck. 🙂

    Gem

  10. Brian, Agreed that you have a nice variety of weaponry there all of which would IMO suffice to say the least. Like you, however, I often wonder anymore with a quickly-decaying society if the weapon of choice at least for those of us in the Urban “Concrete Jungles” would not be the gun with the highest capacity…? I happen to be one that does not have either an AR or AK but I do have myself covered in all other areas quite well (to this day I do, however, regret never getting one–yet one makes do with what they have and even a Ruger 10/22 or hi-cap 9mm are capable). Merits to all sides of the argument and there certainly is no cookie-cutter approach to be had…

  11. @my home I have afew guns & I would use any of them in a home invasion situation compared to the alternative.
    Here r what I have
    Sig sauer m400 5.56
    Saiga 12
    A ruger 45 acp
    Judge poly home def
    & an old single action 22
    My home is small so I’d use my judge or my 45 only problem would be if u had a group of invaders.
    I’ve read ppl saying a judge won’t stop somebody …lol well with the home defense rounds I don’t see anyone taking 2 shots from that & still moving forward

  12. While the premise is correct, I do have a couple of disagreements.

    True a shotgun is the very best home defense weapon. Also the very best close combat weapon. This from experience while running around in a jungle with some bad little brown guys who resented us spending our summer vacation in their country. An old “Green beanie” friend and I had a disagreement about this for suppression fire. He thought his twenty round magazine (yes, old guys remember them having 20 instead of 30) “matti-matel” was better because of the speed with which you could get of 20 rounds. That is until I demonstrated how 96 .33 caliber OO buck would be in the air before he ever got that mag changed.

    Of course for home defense bird shot is by far the very best thing to have in the gun for home defense. And light loads at that! You do not want rounds going through walls and killing someone you do not intend to shoot. Inside, in any normal house bird shot, even from a cylinder choke, is probably far more lethal than ANY rifle round. I once killed a charging boar at four feet with number 6 shot while hunting rabbits in a cane brake. I could absolutely not believe the damage I saw after getting over the five minutes of shakes and cleaning out my pants.

    Now for the disagreements:
    1.I believe a 20 gauge semi auto is the best home defense weapon for a number of reasons. They do not kick much so women are not afraid of them, within twelve to fifteen feet you would not materially tell the difference in the killed “bad guy”; and untrained people tend to short-stroke pumpguns. (Bad guys also hear the sound of a semi being racked) This from experience of having watched someone jam up a pump on more than one occasion when under stress.
    2. But back to pumps — Pump shotguns are like beautiful ladies, they just get better with age. So from the millions of 870’s floating around I am sure you can get a great used one for less than a new Chinese shotgun. Or a used Mossburg for even less. Of course some guys have to have a “virgin”, but they also just get better with age. 🙂 Why send money to the enemy of our country, and further damage the U.S. balance of trade when an even better option is available. Home defense also means defending our home country and the jobs of people in OUR home country. Now some might not think this is an important factor, but I do. But if you have to have a new one wait tell a Mossburg goes on sale for the same price as the Chinese one.

    Just the opinions of an old guy who has gone to the “County Fair” three or four times and even got to see the elephant once or twice. 🙂

    Gem Gram

  13. I received an IAC Iawk from my awesome wife for Christmas and that thing is rock solid. I have a 870 Wingmaster and the difference is unremarkable to the novice. I love it !! Also acquired a mossy maverick 88 security model and not too impressed by this one guys . Feel like I could break it over my knee. I’ve shot the IAC quite a bit more so I m still going to give the mossy mav a good try before knocking it. Great article.

  14. I am with you, gunrunner. I have a Smith & Wesson Governor next to my bed. I load the Winchester PDX .410 shells with the defense disks and BBs in chambers 1,3 & 5. I put a .45 Long Colt 250 grain jacketed hollow point in the even cylinder holes. I have a Mossberg 930 SPX for targets outside the house. I am leery about any long gun in the confined spaces of my home.

  15. the cost of any Chinese gun is too high, regardless of what you paid for them. it is called “external costs”, the costs of losing american arms building talent and infrastructure, the costs of allowing totalitarians powered by essentially slave labor to undercut american businesses.

    do yourself a favor (for many reasons) and spend the money to buy a quality, american made weapon. you won’t regret it.

  16. What about the JUDGE with the new Winchester rounds. # 40 caliber plates and 12 “bb’s” is a hell-of-a load. The Judge only needs 1 hand; so the other can carry your defensive flashlight. The Judge can also be held closer to your body so the intruder can’t grab the barrel. I’m no expert, but my Judge is on my nightstand, with the flashlight.

  17. Something for those who advocate high cap rifles for home defense: Think about what an assistant DA in a typical city or suburb will think as they look at your tricked out AR with large magazine, especially in the post-Sandy Hook climate. Do you really want the media label of an ‘assault weapon’ nut job. Like it or not, appearances matter. Stick to a shotgun (without ‘combat’ accessories), or a lever action .44 mag rifle – plenty of firepower and no appearance problem.
    Also, the rifle may be impounded for years awaiting trials. Do you want your $2000 rifle gone for that long, stored under unknown conditions? Some New Orleans residents whose guns were confiscated got back rusty blobs…

  18. I think some people fail to understand the basics of shotguns. First, you can continue to load after every discharged round. You don’t have to empty the gun to load. You just stick another round in the tube after you feed one into the chamber. This keeps your tube full and ready for continued action. A butt cuff or a side shell holder will give you access to several extra rounds that can be loaded as the other rounds are fired. I have a NEF Pardner Protector, which is essentially the same gun as the Interstate but it’s branded an NEF model. I have a mag extension on that shotgun giving it a 7 round capacity. I put 5 more rounds in a butt cuff. If I need more than 12 rounds what I really need isn’t access to more ammo. I need help from a friend or neighbor. 12 rounds from a shotgun is a LOT.

    BTW for those that don’t know, the Freedom Group owns NEF and they control the production of the 870 clones in China. They were losing so much money to the Chinese they decided it would be best to join them instead of trying to beat them. That’s the story I heard anyway. I do know they are connected.

    For those that think the Chinese models are inferior they are in certain ways. In other ways they are superior. For example the finish is better on my NEF than the finish on my 870 Express. Neither has been a problem but I expect the NEF to last longer before it rusts.

    Any SD weapon should be rigorously tested. I have certainly tested my NEF Pardner. It works extremely well. After an early problem with the lifter I have had excellent results with this shotgun. I use it for buckshot and keep the 870 loaded with slugs. I just moved from an area with a lot of black bears and although I didn’t really fear an attack it does happen once in a while so I thought it was good idea to be ready. So I have a good shotgun loaded for whatever occasion that might come up. It’s the NEF I keep out of the safe though. First I won’t lose a lot of money if it’s stolen. Second it is very effective. What more could I ask for?

  19. Some great feedback in the thread to be sure (funny/witty stuff as well which in these trying times we need…). If I had $800 spare bucks floating around I might get this particular model shotgun for home defense as it makes for great maneuverability–what do you think:

    http://www.serbu.com/top/superShorty.php

    -Happy Holidays

  20. I agree with many of the responders above regarding the “what firearm is best for home defense?” debate. It is the same as the “what position is best for sex?” debate. The bottom line is “ANY is better than NONE AT ALL !!!”
    But I would like to make a comment on the title of the article: when talking about self-defense you NEVER, repeat NEVER use the word ‘kill’. Any lawyer worth their salt will tell you, regardless of the circumstances, you can have 100 eyewitnesses, if you use the word ‘kill’ in any way, shape or form, you just screwed yourself royally. You might as well tell the jury “Yeah, I murdered that bastard in cold blood”, because that’s how the lawyers, and the press, will play it.
    That kind of macho bullshit stuff works great in Clint Eastwood movies. But in real life, you will be handcuffed, you will go to jail, your house, car, bank accts, life savings can all go down the tubes. The headlines will read “Man who wrote ‘Shotguns: the best home intruder KILLING TOOL ever made!’ slays local teenager for trespassing !!!”
    They will conveniently not mention that he was high on crack, had a switchblade, and was ‘trespassing’ in your infant’s bedroom after smashing thru your back door. Look at the ordeal George Zimmerman is going thru in Florida. NBC admits it edited the 911 call they broadcast on national news to portray Mr. Zimmerman as an aggressor and ‘suggest’ that Trayvon Martin was attacked ‘for no reason’. Although he knew virtually nothing about the facts of the case, President Obama said “If I had a son, he would look like Trayvon”. Take 10 minutes, google ‘George Zimmerman’ and read some of the crap he is going thru.

  21. The shotgun is nearly ideal as a home defense weapon, depending on your circumstances. Certainly its destructive power is second to none. However, I part with most of my brethren when it comes to home defense choices. Even in a standard suburban home (1500-1900 sq ft), I find that the 20-gauge has plenty of gee-whiz with #2 and #3 buckshot. The 20-ga is lighter, nimbler and faster to fire than the booming 12 bore. But if it comes to selecting “best” for home defense, I suggest readers think about the following choices…

    M1 Carbine
    Lighter than even an AR-15, the .30 Carbine will hit harder than a .357 Magnum within 25 yards and do it with recoil light enough for women and youngsters.

    AR-15 Platform
    The 5.56mm, 55gr JHP/JSP inside 15 yards has explosive ballistics. For insurance against kevlar wearing thugs, mixing 62gr penetrators works fine too. Recoil is light enough for almost every family member down to about 8 years.

    A 20-gauge Semiauto
    Recoil is more shooter-friendly and with #3 buck, a semi-auto is formidable indoors. You may need to get creative to fill it with more than 4-5 rounds however. For city dwellers this isn’t a big issue.

    Kel-Tech’s KSG shotgun
    The compact KSG pump, with a 12+1 capacity negates the low-capacity issue. That’s 144 pellets with #00 or 192 pellets with #1 buckshot. Yup, that oughta cover the living room, den and foyer like a hand-held cluster bomb.

    If a 12-gauge is used in the home with concerns of other occupants, I suggest switching to either #1 or #4 buckshot. Along with strategically relocating furniture in children’s bedrooms along interior hallways to intercept projectiles.

    The M1 and AR-15 use lightweight bullets that are subject to rapid velocity loss when penetrating solid wood (wall studs, furniture, bookshelves, etc). Yet rounds that connect are effective at close range.

    Rural residents may need higher capacities than city dwellers. City & suburb invasions tend to fall apart rapidly when they encounter gunfire from their victims. Too many ears and relatively fast police response are half the equation. The other half is they rely to heavily on intimidating defenseless victims. Rural residents often get more determined thugs who know a police response time is long and slow.
    (Hint: Know your neighbors. Mutual support is a wonderful thing.)

    Best practices say that you have a household plan. Plans evaporate once hostilities begin, but the basic plan is the same: Defend, don’t pursue. Fall back to a strong point and defend. When floor plans negate this kind of plan, equip bedrooms with solid-core doors and reinforced door jambs. Teach kids to immediately close & lock doors, then where to seek safety in the room. Even if armed with “just” a .22, older children should be encouraged to prepare to use it if necessary. Remember, one plan does NOT fit all. Have a plan if one or more family members are taken hostage (like sending little Suzie out a window to seek help next door).

    Home hallways are tactical funnels. Good for you, bad for them. If your floorplan is more open, create funnels by positioning furniture to create choke points. Stairs are natural choke points. Enhance with an easily pushed item of furniture that can be used to block the stairwell.

    Adding flood lights around the perimeter of the home, combined with a panic “on” switch to light ’em all up will also help deter invasions. It can serve to notify neighbors of trouble at your place.

    Like a lot of folks, some small “bump in the night” doesn’t necessarily warrant toting a long gun through the house. At that point, almost ANY centerfire handgun with a 4-inch or smaller barrel will do. You use it to defend until you can reach the long gun. Stay indoors, be sure your spouse or another person is awake in case you run into trouble (they can back you up, call 911, etc.) and remember that having a gun doesn’t make you invulnerable.

  22. So, how many home intruders do y’all kill in a year? Personally I only bag one or two, so the shotgun gets brought out about as often as the Christmas tree. Wish my home got invaded more often.

  23. I have to agree on most of the previous post(s),however being my children have grown and gone(four great grand children)…I live alone,now that being said..1.I have been a survivor for many years..2.I do own weapons,and support our 2nd.Amendment…3. I am well aware of the primary weapon mentioned in this article.. now for cheap home invasion protection I agree…I personally love the “935 Mossberg/w/ext.tube enabling me to have 9+1 advantage,of course loaded with 3.5″magnum@00buck” no matter what you are wearing…walk through it,that combined w/other assorted defense weapons,incl.,.45 cal.acp all w/zero worry of another family member…this is a warning to the “ball bags”…you may get me,but it cost you severely…you may want to move on to a less costly target,and oh yes…just an fyi…I do CCW…just saying 🙂

  24. I think for a SHTF defensive weapon, the shotgun may be virtually unparalleled. However, for a ‘bump in the night’ type situation, I find either a pistol or small carbine (Sub 2000) to be much more practical as I can easily maneuver the house absent a longer barrel shotgun (even the 18” barrel models). Now if one legally possesses a SBS it’s a different story. –Happy Holidays

  25. IMO, I do not find the shotgun best for inside firing home defense. I prefer my Ruger SP101 loaded with .38 Special P+ HP. Allegedly, if it must be fired inside a home (at night) the revolver vs. the shotgun might save my hearing and night vision (keeping my equilibrium), I can use one hand to hold a revolver while using the other to hold a cell phone, pick up a child, and open/close a door. If one arm or hand gets injured I can still fire a revolver. I prefer the shotgun more for the front-porch, yard, and on my local street defense. I plan on buying the Winchester SXP camp/field combo shotgun for defense (and survival hunting).

  26. I am not a fan of Chinese anything but to think that we are the only people who can manufacture products weather it be guns, cars ,cloths would be just ignorant. I have many guns and love them all but the truth be told that I would be surprised if my AR’s cycle as many rounds as my Chinese sks’s have over the years. I can only agree with the author as I own this very shot gun myself and truly enjoy it. When I use my 1187or 870 I am nervous about scratching it dropping it the rounds I use and well you get the picture. I am constantly walking a fine line with making end meet and going to the range so every dollar counts to me and the return on investment on this gun is a lot better then well most American guns and no im not talking about resale . I am sure the profit margin on US guns is a lot higher as well I bought mine with a store discount at 187.00 at that price it makes me wonder why American manufactures can not turn out a cheaper product as most if not all of the recourses are all rite hear in this country and really how much engineering goes into a shotgun that hasn’t been done before. Do not close you’re eyes to outside manufactures after all it is a free world and you will be loosing out on a good quality goods if you do
    i truly feel i have pulled my weight in supporting American arm manufactures and constantly looking for good deals like this

  27. I’ll go ahead and say it–I’m not a fan of Chinese guns (or anything). I’ve been there and seen the living and working conditions, and lack of QC. For me, any gun I get (minus the .22s for plinking) is going to be able to be used in a defensive role. Just wouldn’t trust my life to this. Any why when you can get a Mossberg Maverick 88 made is the USA? Dick’s has had them on sale for $180, and normal retail is $220. I’d spend the extra $20 even at full price to get the US made one. It is no frills, but very functional. Available in 12 or 20 gauge, with an 18.5″ Home Defense or 28″ Field barrel. Really can’t beat that.

  28. This is it guys! This is the one I’ve been wanting. A few months ago when my CPO/Comptroller autherized a PO for one of these, nobody had one in stock, obviously due to the afore-mentioned sales figures. While searching, I found that Academy had the Savage 350 Security for $197.00, and since I remembered how good the Ithica 37 was I bought one, even though I knew you couldn’t buy anything after market for it. You just have to be happy with it the way it comes, which is identical to the way the 982 comes. I just wanted the options available with the Norinco 982, so I vowed to get a 982 anyway. Now with Christmas, it’ll have to wait a bit, but I’ll still get one. I do love the Savage though. Those model 37s were some great designs, and I have confidense in this 350. Speaking of confidense, I bought 5 or 6 Mossberg 500s in one week back in the mid 70s, well actually I bought only one, but the first two had cracks about halfway down the bore, and the rest would sort of stove-pipe, I think you guys call it. Jammingeither a fired hull upright, or sometimes two shells at once trying to feed. Finally, I got one that functioned roughly, but at least functioned on cycling the action. I was getting tired of taking them back anyway, but after a few weeks the last gun was doing it too, and I figured I’d probably had it too long to return. The metal to metal and wood to metal fit was terrible, and the gun wobbled and rattled when you’d shake it. Between it and a hard headed Pointer who’d wind up in the next county, repeatedly being picked up by Animal Control, I spent a lot more time driving to reurn shotguns and retrieve dogs than I wanted, as a young hunter. Mossberg’s always left a bad taste in my mouth because of that. The other gun you mentioned, the Remington 870 was an excellent gun, in Wingmaster configuration. I believe the ones you guys are refering to though is probably the Express HD, which didn’t appear untill the 80s, the K-car of shotguns I guess. Personally, I’ve not had nor even held one so I don’t know about them, but from what I read, they’re nothing like a Wingmaster, and shooters seem to lump them into the same class comperable to the Mossberg. Now, the older Wingmasters were excellent, as were the Ithica 37s, and Winchester model 12s and 42s. As far as the Chinese thing, how much stuff can you find throughout your household that’s made in China? Or anywhere other than the US? Is China exclusive? What about Swedish rifles, German Mausers, Russian or any other origon AK-47? I don’t understand. Please, some of you guys who are adament explain it so I can understand. As long as the 982s and other such guns function reliablly, and come nicely appointed as home defense guns like they do, and for less than $200.00 like they do, I say go for it! If you found a used Wingmaster for that price, that’s great also. However, as a home defense weapon, or one you could just leave behind the truck seat, you’d soon wind up impairing the beauty of the nicely blued metal, the Walnut stocks would show every little ding and scrape, you’d still have to deal with whacking off the bbl, and you wouldn’t have the expensive rifle aperture sights. I’ve said for years that we Americans have too many choices available to us. Remember when we only had 4 or 5 TV channels? 4 or 5 makes of cars, with 3 or 4 models of each? But at least in the case of in-expensive home defense shotguns, the broad choices have been a real positive thing, I believe. And if you do a little looking, there are several more brands of similar design shotguns available at this time. Perhaps a few more may surface down the road, and for the price point, I’d be curious to try ’em, but fisrt I do want to get a 982. Hopefully, soon after Christmas. Thank you Dave, for this thread, I’m certainly curious to hear others input and comments on this gun.

  29. If I needed a nice tactical pump-shotgun I wouldn’t hesitate to get this one. I have shot them and they are an incredible value for the Quality (same applies to their 1911 copy). As far as the politics of the matter, it’s debatable but I will not get into this. I have American, Russian, Turkish, Brazilian etc. firearms–I just buy what I consider is the best Value as I am not a wealthy gentleman (though I strive to be ;)).

    –Happy Holidays

  30. Mossberg 500a,20″ bbl & 7+1 capacity,the game changer is inside..00 Buckshot.6″ pattern @ 20′,backed up by a Mossberg 5500 semi,same loads.Make it thru that,Mr.Ruger is in waiting,240gr 44mag coming @ 1400 fps.

  31. I’m afraid i’m going to differ with the author here as far as the best weapon for home defense. Shotguns are great at the door and front hallway.If you can catch them as they are breaking in the door, or post-entry in a narrow front hallway, great. If you’re awakened in the middle of the night, and you have more than one bogey already in the house, the shotgun is not ideal. I say that because;

    1) if you have a house full of bedrooms with family members in them, the dispersal is WAY too big, and it cuts your field of fire down significantly. You’ll spend your time second-guessing yourself to death as to whereabouts of family members.

    2) Most shotguns, with the exceptions of semi auto Saiga types, just DO NOT carry enough rounds! 5+1 will NOT do the job if you have determined intruders. You cannot call “Time Out!” to take the time to re-load. Plus, reloading those things are so damn loud, you are basically announcing your vulnerability to your intruders and inviting a bum’s rush.

    I would urge EVERY family to have a plan in case of intrusion. ALL family members here have a designated place to go once they hear gunfire commencing. They all also have firearms in their rooms. This is a good thing, because you WILL NOT second guess yourself with shot placement. You ALREADY KNOW exactly WHERE you can place shots, and where you can’t. This allows you to focus on the task at hand, instead of worrying where your family members are.

    For the preferred firearm, I go with a rifle designed for supression, and has enough power to penetrate concrete block, sub-flooring, etc. That’d be an M-10 AK-47. We are out in the sticks and the home is bermed on 3 sides, so I could care less if I make holes. I also use coupled 40 round Bulgarian mags on chains to throw around my neck, with alternated HP & FMJ ammo in them. I will go into any firefight with 320 rounds at my disposal; 80 in, 240 around my neck. I also know every hiding place on the first floor in relation to the second floor. I have no problem shooting through the floor or through walls to get to intruders. Spackle and paint fix all….

    Why the heavy artillery? The ballbag of the future will NOT be flying solo. They will most likely come in groups of at least 3 or more. The smart ones will also be wearing kevlar, and why not? You can buy used kevlar vests on the internet for $125 bucks! If there are multiple intruders, I want them to know they are outgunned, QUICKLY. I want them to know that NOT abandoning their quest and getting out of dodge is nothing short of a death wish. Also, I need something that PENETRATES kevlar, and the AK does this with ease. I also have pistols chambered in 7.62×25 that DO penetrate kevlar. When it comes to my family’s safety, I don’t play. If I have to take the trouble of clearing a house full of ballbags, I do not want said ballbags getting up……. self explanatory.

  32. Never had to use one for this, but I agree 12 ga. is the one to get. I also like the use of reduced recoil subsonic rounds, especially for indoor use. Makes a BIG BANG anyway.
    I am a fan of US made anything. It only costs a couple dollars more, but helps the economy.
    Any used Cadillac is still better than ANY import costing the same amount,in my mind anyway.

  33. I personally dont believe their goal is to provide a rugged home defense gun. Their ONLY goal is to make money, by bringing a pump gun that competes with the big American names at a lower cost.
    If 870s and 500s mostly dominate the pump shotty market then it makes sense to introduce a cheaper clone then youd have maybe(?) a third of the market cornered.
    With all that said, I do own one and like it alot, but would never even think that its “better quality” than an American made with American quality control and materials.
    Then again with it costing soooo much money to manufacture in the U.S., If they used the same materials as we do, would it still be cheaper? Even after shipping and customs? Who knows?

  34. best home intruder killing tool(s) ever: MAC 10/.45, silencer, stintered sheetrock-safe rnds, laser ‘sight’, taped mags, stock half folded, butt-wire-section in center of chest, elbows tucked-in; have one mag of steel-core for armor piercing duty; glock21/.45 back-up; .357 j-frame, lasergrips pocket holster back-up#2; large kukri (15″ blade, goorkha army kukri, torablades.com) back-up#3; a custom kerambit for grappling, back-up#4…

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