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Did Republicans Sell Out the Second Amendment?

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I’m not in the corner of the republicans or democrats; I am in the middle and solidly focused on the Second Amendment. If I am in a corner it is certainly in the Second Amendment’s, but only because I have been backed up that far.

Last week, I called out the 46 Democrats in the Senate who voted to surrender the Second Amendment to the United Nations, this week it seems 16 Republicans deserve a call out.

Domino Effect?

It started with several Republican Senators calling and pledging support for a filibuster. The effort hit a high before flipping 180 degrees thanks to Pat Toomey, a Republican from Pennsylvania. Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin III realized the bill was dying on the vine and was desperate to find a pro-gun Republican to ally with. He found Pat Toomey.

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Is the rating system broken? There were more than a handful of Senators with top rating from the NAGR and NRA that voted against cloture.

By crossing the line, Toomey joined forces with pro-gun control Democrats such as Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid and Diane Feinstein. That makes it sound pretty bad, and it should. However, Joe Manchin is well known as a conservative Democrat. Both Manchin and Toomey have benefitted heavily from the “A” rating they hold by the National Rifle Association for their previous positions on gun legislation too.

In getting Toomey on board, the legislation did get watered down a bit, but it also threw the Obama backed legislation a lifeline and rescued it from an early death. It also likely moved several Republicans across the line. To be more specific, 16 Republicans supported a cloture vote, which means they voted in favor of limiting debate and killed any chance of a filibuster.

Here is a list of the 16 Republicans and their NRA and NAGR ratings:

  • Lamar Alexander (Tenn.) – NRA A, NAGR C rated
  • Kelly Ayotte (N.H.) – NRA A, NAGR – rated
  • Richard Burr (N.C.) – NRA A, NAGR A rated
  • Saxby Chambliss (Ga.) – NRA A, NAGR A- rated
  • Tom Coburn (Okla.) – NRA A, NAGR A+ rated
  • Susan Collins (Maine) – NRA B+, NAGR D- rated
  • Bob Corker (Tenn.) – NRA A, NAGR A, NAGR C rated
  • Jeff Flake (Ariz.) – NRA A, NAGR A, NAGR A rated
  • Lindsey Graham (S.C.) – NRA A, NAGR A, NAGR B- rated
  • Dean Heller (Nev.) – NRA A, NAGR A rated
  • John Hoeven (N.D.) – NRA A, NAGR A rated
  • Johnny Isakson (Ga.) – NRA A, NAGR A- rated
  • Mark Kirk (Ill.) – NRA D, NAGR F rated
  • John McCain (Ariz.) – NRA B+, NAGR A, C- rated
  • Pat Toomey (Pa.) – NRA A, NAGR A- rated
  • Roger Wicker (Miss.) – NRA A+, NAGR A rated

Now there are a couple of ways of looking at this. President Obama immediately put distance between himself and the bill stating, “This is not my bill. There are aspects of the agreement that I might prefer to be stronger.” However, in announcing the bipartisian agreement, Toomey and Manchin asked Democrat Chuck Schumer—a co-sponsor of the original legislation—to abstain from the announcement. This could be merely a bait switch where Washington replaces the main actors to keep our vigilance to a minimum.

Of course, we can take the “troll” route and threaten to vote them all out of office. We could also say this is a pretty impressive list of Senators that have a strong record protecting our Second Amendment rights. Only two even dip down to the level of B+ and that could hurt our cause in the long run. Voting for cloture is far from a vote for gun control. It allows the legislative process to proceed and us [the voters] a chance to hear who really is supporting and the Second Amendment and deserves our vote in the future. For instance, Toomey said, I’ve got to tell you, candidly, I don’t consider criminal background checks gun control.” Yikes! Does he not also realize the implications of a national registry?

The main danger, of course, is the proposed legislation did not die without reaching the floor. The second danger is the bill will proceed in an open amendment status, thus any amendment can be added and becomes law if it passes the vote. Harry Reid is going to push for only three amendments to be voted on, but that will raise many logistical problems. Hmmm… it started with four bills; three were shot down; one will make it to the floor and Reid only want three amendments. Something is walking and swimming like a duck! This brings us to the call to action. This bill, and any misguided amendment that may be attached, needs to die a loud and horrible death. The bill will reach the floor of the Senate for a vote and when it does, it needs to be soundly defeated. Not by a small margin either. It needs to go down hard so the politicians understand the people will not stand for these assaults on our Second Amendment rights. Call your Senators today, tomorrow and every day until the vote takes place and make your voices be heard!

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Comments (22)

  1. No Article 5 Con-Con NEVER ! We have laws on the books.ENFORCE THEM. Read the Dec of Inde as some have posted here.In NV we have a Mental health measure that,was passed is fair but must be recorded by a certified By Nevada,medical psychiatrist Only(privacy rights) ! the ATF 4473 Forms already have the Questions.it is the FBI & ATF responability to Use the System, Get rid of the ATF,we can hand it Over to Our County Sheriffs and State Police. with no Joe Biden DHS behind Civil Law Enforcement Monies. What stops the FBI U.S Marshals and the ATF as Wayne Lapierre Argued with Chris Wallace during the heated battles in 2012 2013 Gun Control debates if you remember,Change the hipaa Laws,and ironically before Sandy Hook,CT,home of the NSSF one of Oldest Colonial Christian settlements,In the State of CT had a State Senate bill in the State legislature, to change it in CT and push it in The U.S Senate and Congress to add Mental Health Reporting for the NICS.The Hippaa laws belong to the Demolition RAT Party and we see why they want, to protect the far left wing Progression Movement ,and themselves.

    The word LUNATIC Comes to Mind to Change America ! I can not afford a Body Guard .

    The SCOTUS already Proved No Civil law Enforcer does not have to or the right to Interfere with Human self defense Ever ! as in the D.C Heller case Ripped Apart the Language in the DemonicRAT LBJ 1968 Gun Control act must be Sunsetted.why we can form Militias. I always watch my Favorite Mel Gibson Movies 1 The Patriot 2 We Where soldiers to remind myself why we fight . My Grand dad Served in the Island Campaigns to Iwo Jima wounded came home and died two years later of Complications of a heart attack before I was Born,,They say His Bad Memories,short Temper IRISMAN, of Fighting JAPS who where F Murdering Ass Holes. and my Dad who served off the Coast of Korea on a Pacific Fleet Flat top A REO PHOTO Mate and rear Gunner Trained in the three seater U.S NAVY one of very few who flew off the coast hunting for Submarines.The Grumman three seat Torpedo Planes off the deck of the USS Boxer.I served in the USAFNG 149th air lift of CAlif,72 to 78,as a Truck driver heavy Equipment Operator TSGT in Danang with a M4 Colt 56 and a Colt 45 on my hip.Operation Spring cleaning.Or the UN Directive Operation End Sweep! from 1973 to 75.

    We have the WWW To educate ourselves and Learning never ends.My Idea is Give A Guide what to look for and,how your Common senses and of what is good Body facial behavior, and what is evil,Studying the Body Language and carry “Open in all areas of the shop.

    In Many Opinions in the FFL ” GunShopworld.” The owners say,The Gun Shop owner can decide Who is Insane or not at Point of Sale.Just get rid of the 1968 Gun Control Act Keep the FFPA Federal Firearms Protection Act (Reagan signed for Gunshop Manufacturers FFL Purposes and we can get back to a real America .

    When NO FFL Was required ! but That will never happen Until all the States are aligned with each other by 2/3 Votes.So we Modify things to meet the US Bill of rights Language and I am Ok with it as In Many States Private sales is Controlled By State Constitution Laws, break any Gun Safety ,and FFA Law and your done ! as a Gun Shop dealer or Buyer seller. Keep It Simple !

  2. Hi Broken citizen-enjoyed your comments! The main problem We Tne People face with Gov. today is the breakdown of law within the Federal and State gov.in regards to the Constitution.As Mark Levin says”We now live in a post Constitutional America’. Obama is a prime example of an elected official out of control.As he said during his campaigning{something he loves }-“Who is going to stop him?”.By destroying America economically and militarily he is following the blueprint of Rules for Radicals.The history of the legalities of Law you site belong to a Nation of the past.

  3. With all of the high tech commuications that we have, why can’t these reps. stay in their home office where “we the people” who voted them in can get to them instead of the lobbiests and make them answer to us instead.

    I wonder how many would get re-elected if this were to happen, I’m guessing not many!

  4. Why is no one using this little known law?

    DICK ACT of 1902… CAN’T BE REPEALED (GUN CONTROL FORBIDDEN) – Protection Against Tyrannical Government

    The Dick Act of 1902 also known as the Efficiency of Militia Bill H.R. 11654, of June 28, 1902 invalidates all so-called gun-control laws. It also divides the militia into three distinct and separate entities.

    ** SPREAD THIS TO EVERYONE **

    The three classes H.R. 11654 provides for are the organized militia, henceforth known as the National Guard of the State, Territory and District of Columbia, the unorganized militia and the regular army.

    The militia encompasses every able-bodied male between the ages of 18 and 45. All members of the unorganized militia have the absolute personal right and 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms of any type, and as many as they can afford to buy.

    The Dick Act of 1902 cannot be repealed; to do so would violate bills of attainder and ex post facto laws which would be yet another gross violation of the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

    The President of the United States has zero authority without violating the Constitution to call the National Guard to serve outside of their State borders.

    The National Guard Militia can only be required by the National Government for limited purposes specified in the Constitution (to uphold the laws of the Union; to suppress insurrection and repel invasion).

    These are the only purposes for which the General Government can call upon the National Guard.

    Attorney General Wickersham advised President Taft, “the Organized Militia (the National Guard) can not be employed for offensive warfare outside the limits of the United States.”

    The Honorable William Gordon, in a speech to the House on Thursday, October 4, 1917, proved that the action of President Wilson in ordering the Organized Militia (the National Guard) to fight a war in Europe was so blatantly unconstitutional that he felt Wilson ought to have been impeached.

    During the war with England an attempt was made by Congress to pass a bill authorizing the president to draft 100,000 men between the ages of 18 and 45 to invade enemy territory, Canada.

    The bill was defeated in the House by Daniel Webster on the precise point that Congress had no such power over the militia as to authorize it to empower the President to draft them into the regular army and send them out of the country.

    The fact is that the President has no constitutional right, under any circumstances, to draft men from the militia to fight outside the borders of the USA, and not even beyond the borders of their respective states.

    Today, we have a constitutional LAW which still stands in waiting for the legislators to obey the Constitution which they swore an oath to uphold.

    Charles Hughes of the American Bar Association (ABA) made a speech which is contained in the Appendix to Congressional Record, House, September 10, 1917, pages 6836-6840 which states:

    “The militia, within the meaning of these provisions of the Constitution is distinct from the Army of the United States.” In these pages we also find a statement made by Daniel Webster, “that the great principle of the Constitution on that subject is that the militia is the militia of the States and of the General Government; and thus being the militia of the States, there is no part of the Constitution worded with greater care and with more scrupulous jealousy than that which grants and limits the power of Congress over it.”

    “This limitation upon the power to raise and support armies clearly establishes the intent and purpose of the framers of the Constitution to limit the power to raise and maintain a standing army to voluntary enlistment, because if the unlimited power to draft and conscript was intended to be conferred, it would have been a useless and puerile thing to limit the use of money for that purpose.

    Conscripted armies can be paid, but they are not required to be, and if it had been intended to confer the extraordinary power to draft the bodies of citizens and send them out of the country in direct conflict with the limitation upon the use of the militia imposed by the same section and article, certainly some restriction or limitation would have been imposed to restrain the unlimited use of such power.”

    The Honorable William Gordon

    Congressional Record, House, Page 640 – 1917

    Source of this article: http://www.knowthelies.com/?q=node/3949

  5. I was sad to see our Rep. Sen. from MS , Roger Wickers name on that list . I have lost all respect for the man and he has lost my VOTE !

  6. We no longer have a “two party” system, and the only party going on is the one they are having with OUR tax money. MAYBE there are some who actually try to do what’s best for our country, but they are a very small minority. “PUBLIC OFFICE” has become so corrupt, I don’t have much respect for anyone who desires to “serve”. Sad.

  7. You are living in a Obamanation. He stepped aside, right.We the people have not committed a crime.Yet they are after our right to own a gun.They sweetened the milk just enough to sucker more Republicans.We all know that the Amendments and anything else they can sneak in, will lead to gun control.They will have a registry and your doctor will decide if your are mentally fit to own a gun.Don’t even corect your child because it could be used against you in a court of law.DUI no gun. and so on and so on o/O

  8. Yes we have been and will continue to be sold out.
    One thing we need to do is to treat the United Nations like we did to the League of Nations when they turned on the United States. Drop membership from them, kick them out of the United States and use all of the money we are giving them, that they are using to try to destroy us, to take care of the citizens of our country.

  9. These are sad times we are living when we let the UN pukes tell us what to do and our BALL less politicians vote for it.By dropping their pants and bending over for foreign countries!

  10. My Senator Richard Burr, North Carolina has a “A” rating from both NRA & NAGR and suported a cloture vote. He definitly is not standing up for a majority of North Carolina voters. Hopefully, North Carolina Voters will remember this when his term is up.

  11. where are the lawyers now? usually these guys are ready to sue and take a case; where are they now to sue the government – to put injunctions to these court rulings screwing our 2nd amendments; politicians – they can NEVER be trusted – look at history from Rome to Spartacans (movie 300) – they are all the same; sadly republicans who we thought were on our side have royally screwed us; and by the time next group of these blockes come by in the next election it will be too late; only hope – just like laws can be passed with executive powers ( eg PResident Cuomo) hopefully in next elections and after some other Progun uses executive powers to reverse all antiguns laws passed now; America was the land of freedom of speech, religion and right to bear arms – now it dont seem it is gonna be this no more; the last beacon of hope on the planet has succumbed to politics !!!

  12. I am afraid we are already behind the curve in the gun ban debate. Even if we do vote these traitors out of office, the votes will come before anything can be done. I think we need to start recall petitions on all of these polititions that we can. The old sactions speak louder than words, they will realize that we are truly serious about this issue, and will not simple let it be swept under the rug whether they be Republican or Democrat.

  13. Yes, probably. That’s why I’ve never been political, because it usually does become a sell out. Fla.Senator Mark Rubio was on Meet The Press this morning, and he hit it all on the nose. He’s a very smart, and stand up guy. But all that aside, we have real problems. Where’s all the damned ammo?!!!

  14. Admittedly I am frustrated. At the rate we are being sold down the river, I do not see how we can wait until the next election cycle to vote these people, who would subvert the constitution, out of office. Perhaps we can begin a massive recall campaign to show how serious we are about this attack on our civil liberties.

  15. Just about time the people are starting to see a big difference between democrats and republicans on gun control, a bunch of republicans shoot them selves in the foot. I believe all of this gun control talk had started to really show people there is/was a difference. This should really work out well for democrats in the next election because once again the republicans will be splitting there vote with libertarians. Dave we live in a two party system, if your not for either party your not in the game. Democrats vote in a monolithic block, so any vote for a democrat is a vote against the 2nd amendment. If you don’t like the way a republican votes an issue change that republican. The NRA and NAGR may need to reevaluate there rating system.

  16. I thought maybe a recall of all these traitors would suffice but found this:

    (Consider your location. Few states allow for a recall of a senator-only 18 and the District of Columbia. If you’re not living in one of these states you have no constitutional rights to recall.)

    So we are screwed and the only way the pro gun states can fight back is unite against these traitors and pass and form bills to nullify and form militias that operate in each state outside federal jurisdiction. Also, each county sheriff department needs to deputize every law abiding citizen that can bear arms.

  17. It is time for all us to vote out the political hacks who are attempting to destroy this country, from the President of the United States to your local hack regardless of political party. We need good Americans in office and we also need term limits. Any elected official that says that the people that he or she represent doesn’t know what is “good for them” should be recalled. We need politicians who represent the will of the majority of the people they represent.

  18. there is not a respectable politician in Washington (or anywhere else). I have not been represented by either party for many years. I see trouble in the future for freedom. We continue to lose freedoms everyday and everytime Congress convenes. Politicians have egos so large they think the people they represent don’t know what’s best for them so they will do whatever they feel is best for them.

  19. WE THE PEOPLE HAVE THESE DIRTBAG REPUBLICANS ON OUR SHIT LIST. YOU TRAITORS LET DOWN THE PEOPLE OF OF THIS COUNTRY. WE WILL MAKE SURE YOU WILL NOT BE IN OFFICE COME NEXT ELECTION. THE PEOPLE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF OBAMA AND THE REST OF YOU CORRUPT POLITICIANS.

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