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Remington Officially Announces New Pistol—the RM380

Okay, okay…so the official announcement will happen later this week at the 2015 NRA Annual Meetings and Exhibits, however, the embargo has been lifted on the pistol’s debut.

Rumored for over a year, Remington finally introduced its newest pistol, the RM380 .380 ACP micro concealed carry pocket gun to a group of gun writers at the Gunsite Academy in Paulden, Arizona.

Black micro .380 ACP pistol from Remington
The RM380 is a true double-action only pistol with second-strike capability.

Perhaps due to consumer skepticism after the R51 debacle, the RM380 was rigorously put through its paces for two days in a variety of self-defense scenarios so gun bloggers could report on the pistols reliability and shootablity.

The RM380 is a true double-action-only pistol with second-strike capability. It operates from a delayed blowback action and has an aluminum frame. The 416 stainless steel barrel measures 2.9 inches. There is no external safety lever, but there is an ambidextrous magazine release button that fits flush against the frame and a fully-function slide stop lever. The slide lockss back after the last round is fired.

Gripping the pistol is instinctive with the ergonomic 1911 grip angle, checkered grip and front strap, undercut trigger guard and slightly extended Beavertail.

CrossBreed Holsters are already producing holsters that fit the RM380 and drawing is smooth with the pistol’s rounded edges and fixed low-profile integral sights. More holsters from Galco and DeSantis will follow, as well as a laser from Crimson Trace.

Left side view of the Remington RM380 .380 ACP subcompact semiauto pistol
Gripping the pistol is instinctive with the ergonomic 1911 grip angle, checkered grip and front strap, undercut trigger guard and slightly extended Beavertail.

The trigger pull is long with a 7.9-pound pull weight and the slide is incredibly easy to rack. It weighs 12.1 ounces.

Remington says mass production starts in May and it anticipates shipping in late May or early June. The Remington RM380 .380 ACP includes two six-round magazines; one that fits flush into the mag well, and one with an extended base plate. MSRP is $417.00.

It is the first new pistol made at Remington’s new Huntsville, Alabama factory. In honor of the occasion, a first, limited edition RM380 with a stainless steel slide, black frame and special engraving will be released.

What do you think about the Remington RM380? Share your thoughts with us in the comment section.

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Comments (70)

  1. I love my RM 380 with Crimson laser. The double action only is perfect for chambered carry. I have the old Sig P232 and these are the only 380’s I carry. The pull on the double action only is easily managed and hitting 16 oz. water bottles at 12-15 feet is easy. The first generation had a few problems, this one has it down tight.. 500 rounds through ball and hollow point self defense rounds with no jams. I carry either a 380 for maximum concealment or a RO Elite Champion 45. More often than not I carry the 380 with Hornady Critical Defense and am confident it will handle any threat I come across.

  2. On 11/01 I was told by my LGS, they’d have one on Tuesday 11/03, they sold it 1 1/2 hours after it hit the sales floor. I’ll let you know what I think after I shoot the little bugger; hopefully Sunday. Feels nice, looks good and the price was reasonable too. My R51 actually works and I might add is quite the accurate piece; I am still waiting for Remington to release the optional grip panels for it. Maybe once they get the reworked model on the market. I will also be waiting for the optional grip panels for the RM380; which they said they would be making. Probably clean er up (the RM380) tomorrow night and take it out on Sunday.

  3. The people who complain in their comments on here about a lack of a safety or decocker need to stop drinking their bath water. The number one selling handgun IN THE WORLD is the Glock; no safety (except for the trigger); no decocker. Hundreds of models of handguns from dozens of manufactures have no safety or decocker; just a long double action or striker-fired trigger pull. Hammerless revolvers with out safeties have been around since Sam Colt was still breathing. The lack of complicated levers assists a defender by letting them focus on one thing: defense.

  4. Opps, you all probably know I meant “hammerless” in my last comment. Though a triggerless gun would for sure prevent those accidental shootings.

    This sure is a tough group commenting here. A person even has to answer a math question just to comment. By the way, how many minus one equal 2?

  5. Will this new 380 Remington be as bad a flop as its big brother 9mm? The R51 I bought was great when it worded. May be they could not build it in 9mm so they tried 380!

  6. A triggerless revolver?? I think I would like to see that?? Let me guess, you hold the gun in your hand and think evil thoughts and it magically goes off?? This is just another attempt buy a major gun manufacturer attempting to reinvent the wheel and one of Remington’s sad attempts at carving a niche’ for themselves in the hand gun market in the face of plummeting long gun sales.. Remember *hammerless* revolvers? They are designed for close range point and shoot scenarios. Problem is, the accuracy of these hand guns was, is and always will be abysmal. Putting this idea in an autoloader is unnecessary redundant and actually comes off as pretty desperate. Remington needs to stick with what they used to do best, making accurate affordable long guns with some class and style. I for one and sick to death of these BUTT UGLY plastic stocked POS’s that Gun Maker’s are churning out these days,.
    Here’s a novel Idea …
    How about we get back building some class into our Firearms while keeping them affordable? Anybody else remember those days? When the day has come that a Turkish, Russian or Czeck made long gun with a walnut grain stock out classes, out shoots, and is more affordable than an American made one, American Gun Manufactures should hang their collective heads in shame.

  7. OK, I read the previous comments about it not having a decocker etc. Personally, I feel like if you can have your cake and eat it too then why not. My cake is a trigger I can pull without stress and stay on target. But, Ideally, I don’t see a lot of need for a decocker so long as the shooter has it in his head only to pull the trigger when there’s a reason to. This wouldn’t be a gun you would pull that trigger half way back while investigating the unknown like you might with a single action pistol. You would have to treat it like you would a triggerless revolver. Having said that and thinking about that last sentence it’s kinda like having a triggerless revolver that’s probably not going to be quite as reliable as a revolver. However in fairness, if probably doesn’t have as long or heavy a pull as some revolvers.

  8. Notice how Kahr pistols, S&W or Ruger snubs have no safety either… its because they are long pull 7lb+ triggers (DAO)…Notice how all 1911 pistols have a safety…very short pull 5lb or less trigger.

  9. Have used Remington shotguns my whole life, was real excited to purchase this pistol being a woman liking the fact it was smaller. To bad it don’t have a safety..Will NOT be purchasing it….

  10. I couldn’t agree more. Maybe this is the Beta version? Being DA action only with no hammer, no safety, and no ability to de-cock the weapon short of completely unloading it or firing it, one has to wonder what the designers at Remington were thinking when they came up with this little insurance claim waiting to happen. You would think they would have learned something from that whole (my rifle just went off and killed my kid)trigger thing they are going through.

  11. For Kim:
    Another alternative rather than having your .38 Special worked on, which can be very expensive, is to try out the trigger pull on different handguns at your gun shop, and if you find one that you like, then possibly put it on layaway while you sell the old one. (I did that recently) At that time, use that money to help pay the new one off. Along with the Remington, you might want to check out the S&W Bodyguard or other similar .380 semi-autos. I have three different .380’s for myself and wife. All of them were selected at the gun shop amongst others of the same model for their easy functioning and good trigger pulls. Often there is a huge difference between the same model guns. Although more expensive, I have very high regard for any firearm made by SIG-Saur, Beretta or Walther. And finally, you might want to try simply changing the grips on your present gun. Doing that made a great difference on my little S&W .38 revolver when I changed the standard wooden grips to softer grips made of softer “rubbery” ones. Hogue and Pachmayr make some good grips to try out. Good luck again.

  12. Um, call me crazy but with no external hammer and no safety, how are you supposed to de-cock it? Like most of Remington’s offerings this days, this looks like an expensive way to shoot yourself in the foot…(pun intended)

  13. Hello Kim;
    Yes, the “kick back” on the smaller and lighter .380’s can be surprisingly significant, especially with the more modern .380 cartridges and the tendency to attempt to make them ever more powerful. If you can find a gun shop with a range, or some friend that has a similar .380 pistol, I’d suggest you shoot the Remington or one that’s similar in weight before buying one. The issue of recoil, and its effect on accuracy is an important one, and correct handgun/ammunition choice is important. Fortunately, I’d think that regular practice would really help to get used to the recoil. In addition, a good set of custom grips can help tremendously to reduce the felt recoil. I wish you luck.

    1. Thanks Larry for the info. I will diffentley check on a Remington .380. I had half way decided to sell my 38 Special for something else, but after talking to my gunsmith he thinks he can help me out some. Besides the kick , which I know all guns have, I had a hard time with the trigger. After two shots I did’nt have the strength to shoot the remainder three shots. Hopefully the gunsmith can do something to lighten this difficulty. I spent alot of money on the 38 special and sure would hate to not be able to use it as my defense weapon. I do plan on going to the gunshop to check the Remington out though. I have a buyer if I decide to switch.

    2. Kim, if you don’t like the strong trigger pull on your .38 revolver, you are unlikely to get any relief from any of these small .380s. They all have the same problem, a horrible trigger pull. You pull the trigger, then pull it some more, and eventually, with no warning and no tactile feedback, the gun goes off. I agree with the above advise, try it before you buy it.

  14. I purchased an R51 in March 2014 and returned it June 2014 for a new revised one. I was told production would begin in September, then changed to October or November. Called again and was told production would resume in January or February of 2015. Asked again several weeks ago and was told the machinery was being shipped to the new plant in Huntsville. Now the production date has been changed to July or later.

    Remington is saying the RM380 will start production in May 2015. Would think that Remington would put their efforts into first making right the people who purchased the R51.

    I’ve owned two wonderful Remington rifles for more than 40 years and believed in the Remington product. But I will never purchase a Remington gun again, ever.

  15. I just watched a video about the rm380 and it seems Remington supposedly bought the rights to copy the Rohrbaugh R9. I thought I had seen the design somewhere. It does look Siggy though. I could do without a grip and grip screws to worry about loosening while firing.

  16. Would have to see how testing from the consumer goes before I would buy one. I think the problems from the R51 will hurt sells on this little handgun. The pistol looks nice, kinda like a miniature Sig SP2022, but looking nice and running good are two different things. It seems like Remington is trying to capitalize on their name first and quality second. Only time will tell.

  17. My first reaction to the gun is , how about the kick back with the short barrel? Being a female I would like something that will fit into my purse, but something that would’nt have as big of a kick back as my 38 Special. Wish I could see a video of this one in action!

  18. Nice to see Remington continuing deeper into the handgun market. A concealable, carry-able .380 ACP is a nice choice. There are several on the market already, but there are some features in this gun the others don’t have (locks open after last round and has an external slide release.) A true double-strike capability is also nice to see. As others have said, after the R51 ‘production issues’, best to take a wait and see approach when this is released and see how reliably it functions in the hands of actual users with final production guns on the market. If it proves to be reliable and accurate, it will be a welcome addition to the gun safe.

  19. IF I was in the market for a small .380, I might consider it . . . but only after it’s been on the market for a couple of years so I could get the feedback of regular folks who bought it over the counter, rather than relying on the gun writer feedback on specially-prepped samples introduced at manufacturer’s seminars.

  20. This is visually a Kel-tec / Ruger LCP clone except…
    It has a slide lock and it locks back on the last shot with the empty mag.
    My Kel-tec doesn’t do either but the MSRP will be a problem for this offering. I remember the Ruger LCR started at $500+ and quickly dropped to $415 by the next gun show. This will do the same in a saturated (with .380s) market.

  21. At that price I think your are just paying extra for a brand name. Sccy cpx 2 for $219.00 in 9 mm is where I put my hard earned dollars and have been very pleased with.
    My 56 year old eyes limit my accuracy somewhat but just the second time shooting about 200 rounds I was consistently holding groups that I could cover with my hand. Nine pound trigger pull but not really a problem when you learn to stage the trigger to just before the breaking point.

  22. AGREED!!! California has gone so far down hill, that I (a native Californian) am moving to Georgia. At least there, I can get a carry permit and own guns without fear of being targeted by Leftist, Liberal political hacks.

  23. Unless your a Remington Fan I don’t see where this gun does anything new or improved upon over other 380’s that exist. Looks like another little gun with a semi-hard to pull trigger but maybe there’s more to it than meets the eye?

  24. Sorry, but the SCCY CPX-1 offers a similar size, 2 each 10-round mags, thumb safety, slicker trigger pull, and 9mm cal in a weapon that has a lifetime warranty, and all of this is under $325. But I wish Remington well with this offering, and hope it does what they say it will do.

  25. Can it be purchased in California? Will it even be submitted to CA DOJ for inclusion on the “approved” firearms list?

    1. Brother, get out of that Nazi state. It is a fascist regime that seeks to control everything you do. Find some freedom; there is little enough available but there are a lot of places better than CA.

  26. Have to tell you, that in the .380 market I really favor the Walther PPK, carried one for several years and absolutely loved it. In my opinion it is one of several semi-autos that are safe to carry with one chambered.

    Oh my I see that I need math to post this .. I may not be able to correctly solve this but I can tell you how I got the wrong answer .. just gotta love common core.

  27. The RM380 seems to fill a niche that doesn’t exist. At $417.00 MSRP, it is over priced by $100.00, unless you absolutely have to have this pocket pistol for a collection. It seems to ma as if Remington is attempting to recoup their moving and setup costs on this one pistol.

  28. As far as grips go, the grip on the Walther PPX is amazing. I held one at a gun show and bought it on the spot. very accurate and easy to shoot.

  29. This gun looks to be Remington’s mass production copy of the high priced Rohrbaugh 380. The company was rumored to have sold out to Remington and now it appears Remington is going to mass produce the design. Let’s just hope they keep the quality of the original ones. Rohrbaugh has one of the smallest 9mm designs going, except the recoil spring has to be changed out after x number of rounds. Remington is probably bringing this out in 380 first to test the waters. It shouldn’t have the issues of their last pistol. I just hope Remington keeps the quality.

    1. What is the short version of the flop of the R51. I do not own one nor shot or had any experience with the R51, but i like the looks of the new R$M .380

  30. Hate the grip on this – it’s like the grip on the Sig P238 which I also don’t like – on the other hand the grip on the Sig P232 is great (similar to Walther PPK/S) – what’s the deal with this trend toward these blocky grips?

    1. You must have either very large hands, or very small hands to have so much trouble with the grip.

    2. Didn’t say it didn’t fit my hands, said I didn’t like the feel of them – the cant, the blockiness, etc – just don’t like how it feels – I also don’t like how glocks feel, not because I can’t hold them, because I don’t like the angle, etc

  31. Another one I’m not interested in because of a heavy trigger pull. The micros are challenging enough for accuracy, and then add the heavy trigger pull, and accuracy goes out the window.

    1. Agreed. I can punch out the ring at combat ranges with my PF9, and it is a stiff trigger. You just have to practice and get used to the stiff trigger. That’s the trade off to being able to carry thing cocked and locked in a pocket holster.

  32. Golly wow. Having utterly botched the rollout of their r51, which at least targeted a hot segment with a unique offering, the now disgraced Remington comes to us with an aluminum framed keltec p380 / ruger lcp clone ? pocket 380s were indeed a high demand segment from about 2003 to 2012, but that market is supersaturated now. This seems to offer nothing unique that would make me consider trading what i already have. If i was that one last ccw holder who still had not acquired a .380 pocket rocket, i dont see anything about this that would make me consider the Remington over existing offerings from established brands that have better proven track records. I think Remington has wasted their time and capital on this ho-hum product. Given their lackluster 1911 line, the innovative but flawed r51, and now this lame 380 copycat, I’d say big green needs to turn their focus back to their core long guns business. Further, I think I’d be a seller on freedom group stock given this squandering of resources to develop commodity products.

  33. Seems a lot better than the new Beretta Pico .380. Better controls, at least.

    I’m not much of a .380 person. With the new small 9mms, I’d rather have a little more horsepower for a back up pocket pistol to go with my XD .45 EDC gun. Still, Remington is a good product product and it looks practical. I’d like to read a few reviews on how it shoots and functions.,

  34. That 8 pound trigger pull is a serious turn off. And the price is higher than already established .380 pistols… But, I am from the Huntsville area and may just get one to show support for the factory that helped relieve the pressure of this recession for so many of my friends and family.

  35. Useless? Un-awesome? Hmmm. Depends on what you want I guess. I carry my S&W lasered .380 Bodyguard most of the time, primarily because its so small and light that its comfortable and unobtrusive. I shoot it all the time too. I put Hornady JHP’s in a 6″ circle at 25 yds all day long, and they go through the 3/4″ plywood holding the targets like its butter. I would have no doubts about it penetrating a bad-guy’s skull or his torso either. One complaint I do have tho, is that ,like the .410 shotshells, the prices for .380 ammo is just too damned high. Hell, I can buy big-ass .45ACP cheaper than tiny little .380’s. And I can buy 12 gauge four times cheaper than .410’s. Whats up with that ??

    1. Unless the attacker is Superman I don’t think I would call the 380 useless. Even a 22 has killed with lethal strikes. The 380’s popularity is due to ease of concealment.

    2. Its better to have .380 than nothing at all…sometimes small is the only practical choice.

    3. Nothing useless about a small weapon you can just stick in your pocket on the way out the door….I have a keltec and carry it lot!

  36. Looks GOOD to me! Be interested to hear about it’s comparative size to other 380’s, and it’s reliability.

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