Reader Comments of the Week — October 6, 2018

Will Dabbs shooting the Kel-Tec RFB

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Reader Comments From Previous Weeks

Review: Kel-Tec RFB — The Ultimate Big Bore Bugout Bullpup
This looks like a sporter model, which makes the barrel 18 inches in length. So by the letter of the law, it isn’t a SBR weapon. Sadly, there will be some law enforcement officers or just nosy people who think it is, just because of the portion that they can see. The beauty of the bullpup design is that the barrel starts just a little in front of the magazine, just like in standard rifle configurations.
~Marc Cruz

The Bug-in v. Bug-out Question
Bugging In is the way to go – IF possible! However, a safe room is almost always required (for hurricanes or tornadoes) which should also be above the high water mark of a storm. The storm shelter should also protect the occupants of prowlers, thieves – any predator to include the military nice guys and FEMA or LEOs out to disarm you due to the crisis. They did that again in North Carolina! One can’t haul away all those nice to have things at the ho unless your bug out vehicle is a moving van!

The Bug-in v. Bug-out Question
As the first commenter getting too old for extended bug out. The house is 6ft thick rammed earth, 40 clear field of fire around it. Enough solar with battery backup to run the entire place off grid. Well has house power, its own solar backup and manual beyond that. Of course plenty close and bit further away weapons and ammo. Ability to reload and make black or white powder. Lead and molds and sizing etc to cast bullets. Tons of primers but a very large stock of strike anywhere matches. Yep you can use those to remake primers. Of course septic. Many buckets of food, and a seed bank as well. While I would not count on the Tesla for off roading tactical, the fact it is mobile without gas dependency is nice. The electric Polaris is good as well. Mostly hobby farm, but have a no till drill that use the Polaris with.

Review: Kel-Tec RFB — The Ultimate Big Bore Bugout Bullpup
The RFB is a nice, compact rifle. It is not an SBR even though it is so short due to the bull pup design. It is easy to handle while offering very good accuracy. Mine functions flawlessly with mil grade FMJ ammo. Its recoil is stout, but not bad due to it’s weight. It’s heavier than a standard AR-15, but then it’s a 7.62 so additional weight is expected. The ejection system is quite different and takes some getting used to, but it’s great for recovering your brass since it just drops out right under the muzzle of the gun, plus no hot brass flying in your face or adjacent shooting lanes. I think it would be a great bug-out gun. I put a 1-4x scope on mine to support close quarters operation as well as medium range shooting. I believe it could work well with one of the new 1-8 scopes with a first focal plane reticle.

Review: Kel-Tec RFB — The Ultimate Big Bore Bugout Bullpup
If you read the article it is fully ambidextrous even the brass falls out the front. This isn’t a trap gun, so length of pull is irrelevant. If you are using a zero magnification red dot you can stick it way out on the end and a 9ft dude could shoot it. Im 6,1 with arms to match and a ar style 1-4,1-6,or 1-8 would be totally fine with id say up to a 6ft 6 guy. If you are holding the rifle properly and you mount, bore site and the look down the rifle as if you were shooting it, you will know how much “eye relief” you have. If your a Giant with ape arms use a integral scope mount rings combo that is off set. Nooo biggy. I only recommend the style of optics that i have mentioned because that is what the rifle was designed to use, you could also just ad flip up sights till you can afford a optic. I would suggest a 1-8 or 1-6 burris scope with a 308 bullet drop compensating reticle or in my opinion ideally a 3.5 magnification bdc reticle Trijicon ACOG and be able to use the sight day or night without EVER buying a battery. Perfect bug out optic. Any of those is all you need up until recently USMC scout snipers used a fixed 10 and shot a mile and the Russians used a fixed 6 and did fine. Every Marine has qualified at least to 500m in my day with a m16a2 with iron sights, now with a ACOG.
~Marine armorer

Review: Kel-Tec RFB — The Ultimate Big Bore Bugout Bullpup
I have one of these delicious little morsels…and it absolutely rocks! Is it a bit different from your standard AR or AK? You betcha! It is short, for sure, but that’s because the chamber is below your cheek. The rest of the barrel, all 16.5″ of it, is along the remainder of the rifle. It is a great design, IMO, with the forward eject. By the time you have fired the requisite five or so rounds, the empties dropping out the front have also cooled quite a bit. It is accurate, especially in the long-barrel, 22″ Hunter version. The trigger isn’t spongy, doesn’t have that “disconnected” feel that some bullpups have. I love mine!
~Amir Fazadh

Do You Have the Right to Stand Your Ground?
Good article. As a licensed CC holder, the first example Mr. Hanson brings up is tricky… the young woman, with a small child in the car with her, is parked illegally in a handicap spot. I think my response would have been to simply get the license plate number and report it to the nonemergency police number and went about my business. Gentlemen, how would you react coming out of a store seeing a man yelling at your wife/girlfriend with your small child in the car. Regardless of where she’s parked?

The Bug-in v. Bug-out Question
First off – bugging in is better than bugging out.

Secondly, one may not have that option – so be prepped for it.

Just where one bugs out to, may be a choice or happen-stance.

A mutual friend or relative of which you have a reciprocal agreement is better than nothing.

If you haven’t read it, read War on The Run. Rogers noted in the 1700s that game (for some unknown reason) got very scarce.

300 years later, do you think the wildlife has improved?

To live in the woods without bringing your supplies withy you is to end your days by starvation. Foods supplies only delay the obvious – unless one brings a 2 year supply of food and seeds plus live stock.

Do You Have the Right to Stand Your Ground?
He’s making the rest of us look bad.

Previous complaints also says Drejka allegedly threatened to shoot three different individuals, pulling guns on two people in road-rage incidents dating back to 2012.

Three months before McGlockton’s shooting, Drejka, who is white, threatened to shoot a black man for parking in a handicapped space at the same store where McGlockton was shot confronting Drejka, according to the complaint.

The man’s boss told detectives Drejka later called him to complain about his worker, telling him “he was lucky that he didn’t blow his employee’s head off,” the complaint alleges.

In another incident, an 18-year-old man told Pinellas County Sheriff’s deputies in 2012 that Drejka flashed a black handgun at him during a road-rage incident. The teenager told deputies the altercation started when he stopped at a light that turned had yellow, and Drejka, who was behind him, allegedly honked and yelled at him, and pointed the handgun at him from his driver’s-side window, according to the complaint.

The teenager did not wish to press charges against Drejka, the complaint says.

On Dec. 12, 2012, a woman told Largo, Florida, police that a man in a black Toyota truck, later identified at Drejka, pointed a gun at her and her passengers.

“When Largo Police talked to Michael Drejka, he stated that the female driver was driving too slowly through a school zone,” according to the complaint.
~Curt Osborne

The Shotgun for Home Defense

I have taken three defensive shotgun classes, each with a plain 12-ga. Rem. 870 fitted with a youth-sized/reduced length of pull pistol-grip stock and a weapon light. There is no sling. Bead front sight. I do have a four-shell side-saddle too.

Load? No.4 buck. Why? I live in the city.
00 buck earned its “fight stopper” reputation in the late nineteenth and twentieth centuries. In police/ law enforcement circles it was satisfactory, but often criticized for over penetration too. No. 4 buck was used by “stakeout” or apartment entry officers to reduce penetration in buildings, but it was often considered insufficient. Some law enforcement units, particularly those in the Carolinas or who study wound ballistics favor No.1 buck as a compromise.

Mr. Campbell, you write: “If there is any general shortcoming among students, it is a lack of familiarity with the shotgun. The shooter should know how to load, unload, fire, make safe, and aim the shotgun properly. If you practice often, you are ahead of the game even if you use a double barrel or older pump-action shotgun.”

Most firearm ranges simply do not have facilities to pattern shotguns or run tactical drills, which is why many people lack familiarity with them. This is the principal reason to go get some training. Even if the training is not up to a particular standard, at least it offers ample time to learn how to really use their guns, load at speed, tactical reloads, use of cover, trouble-shooting, working on clearing jams or mis-feeds, etc. etc.

Of all the issues with an “over the counter” shotgun purchase for defensive purposes, in my admittedly subjective view, the biggest problem that needs to be addressed is fitting the stock to the intended user. In my case, a youth-sized stock was an important addition. I prefer the traditional stock layout, but for retention issues and for controlling the shotgun one handed should the need arise, I favor the pistol-grip type.

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