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I was planning on making the same point! Force is mass x acceleration squared. The velocity of a bullet has a much larger affect on the energy a bullet carries than the diameter or mass does. I carry a .40 because I get the speed and weight I am looking for. Plus, I have seen what it can do to a pig at 25 feet!
I see no ‘hard proof’ here. i see vague references to ‘physics.’ i see appeals to authority. i see anecdotes. no actual data and method, though. There’s nothing authoritative here to indicate the .45 acp is superior or inferior to any other cartridge as a man-stopper.
I carry a CZ P64, 9×18 Makarov, as a back up. Heavy pull on the first double action round but quite acceptable trigger pull for follow up shots, not to mention it’s pretty, close range, accurate. Fits on my front pocket and has never failed me.
I think the Makarov. 9×18 is a highly under rated round.
Sounds like good basic suggestions. Definitely not overkill! At best the bare minimum of what one needs to do.
The only thing I would add, is planting some nice thorny bushes in appropriate locations. One thing that make sense is to use them to deter people from the window areas. I also find by placing them in the right places, they can be used to generate zones. These are zones to make people enter or leave an area according to your choosing. What one decides to use those zones for is of personal choice, but they can be extremely helpful for a variety of reasons!
No one wants to run through thorns, and anyone that does, will only do it once!
Reference the recent FBI report; a little history. It was an FBI report after their 1986 Miami shootout (where 9mm and .38 was used) that compelled them to switch to the 10mm. That report used the best techniques of the time and concluded that the 9mm/.38 did not possess the power to rapidly stop a person.
The FBI then switched to the 10mm cartridge and a Smith & Wesson to shoot it. That did not last too long because; 1) many agents could not qualify with that powerful of recoil (particularly female), 2) the grip was too large for some (particularly female) and 3) it is a very large gun to carry concealed. As the FBI was searching for a replacement gun and powerful enough caliber, the .40 S&W came out, in smaller sized guns, and they switched to that. It was declared the best of both worlds. Unfortunately, over the years they have found that they have the same problem as before, although not as severe; trouble qualifying (particularly female).
This experience mirrors my police department where I was a firearms instructor. We issued 9mm. Over time, we found that the 9mm was not ending gunfights. We switched to issuing the .40 S&W (and allowed to carry .45ACP on personal purchase) and gunfights ended quickly more often. But, just like the FBI, qualification problems arose (particularly female). And so now, we issue both the .40 S&W and the 9mm (it is now the officer’s choice) and the FBI goes back to the 9mm.
So what has changed for both the FBI and my PD? In my opinion, liability and politics. If someone who does not qualify gets into a shooting, there WILL be horrendous liability, even if it’s a lawful shooting. If they are not allowed to carry a gun then it’s not safe for them to be on the street so available manpower is effectively lowered to dangerous levels. On the politics side, in government at least, it is almost impossible to fire a minority, no matter the failing. If there are protected classes then no one can be fired for the same failing. Therefore, people don’t get fired when they fail to qualify. So what do you do with them? They get endless re-training (and out of action the entire time) and most will finally qualify…this time. At the next qualification, we start the process all over again.
I have pointed out a particular problem with females. That is only because they are generally weaker and have smaller hands so it shows up more often. However, it is by no means limited to females.
It is also my opinion that the rising qualification problem in general is due to attitude. When I became an officer in 1976, agencies wanted people that were aggressive (in the good sense; chase down the bad guys and put them in jail, etc.). An interest in being proficient with guns and shooting is part of that attitude. Over the past twenty or thirty years, the agencies have emphasized new hires be “kinder and gentler”. I doubt if an officer from 1976 could get hired today. Today, officers are supposed to want to go to block watch meetings, be school resource officers and be counselors and psychologists. Therefore, for these officers there is not the interest in mastering a gun and qualifying; its just seen as a necessary evil.
So, the recent shift back to less proficient calibers by PD’s and the FBI (supporting it with a new study that supports the decision…remember that liability! Can’t have wounded or dead officers/agents suing the departments for using inefficient weapons and calibers.) By the time its figure out that gunfights don’t again end soon enough, maybe there will be Star Trek phasers, set to stun, with no recoil and unlimited grip sizes.
I have heard that shooting TulAmmo steel cased cartridges will leave a residue in your barrel. Is this true? How much of a problem is this? What is recommended to remove this residue if I choose to shoot TulAmmo in my AR15?
On that gun, I would like to see a threaded barrel. Also, a feature very rare in a handgun, and that is the ability to mount a small red dot sight, for old codgers as I. Replacing the iron sights with a red dot, makes it possible to plainly see the red dot, and, the target. That’s a feature that overcomes failing eyeballs to simultaneously line up both the open sights, and the target together.
This would make this firearm stand out above all the multitude of 9mm’s available now offered by the many competitors out there.
Having 2.5 pound fire extinguishers readily available serves two important functions. The first is in case of a fire but the second is a smart personal protection item. In the event of an intruder pointing that fire extinguisher around the corner and letting loose with the powder in the extinguisher will totally blind any intruder. Plus that powder hangs in the air for a minute or two to obscure vision while you escape. Lastly, it makes a great light weapon for smacking the intruder if you are a “less than legal” advocate. This is perfect for a woman home alone at night so make sure you have one under your bed and every bed just in case.
A lot of shooters think that the lacquer and/or polymer coating on steel cased ammunition can melt when it gets hot and leave residue in the chamber causing stuck cases and other reliability issues. THIS DOES NOT HAPPEN!!!
The temperature required to melt those coatings is MUCH higher than temps reached in an AR15/M4/M16 chamber even during continuous full-auto fire. What can and will cause stuck cases, extraction, and other reliability issues, is the fact that steel cases are not as malleable as brass, and therefore they do not fully expand to seal off the chamber like a brass case will. When this happens during the firing process, it will allow excess fouling to blow back past the case thus settling in the chamber. Problems arise when this build up occurs in the chamber especially if the shooter switches back to brass ammo without thoroughly cleaning the chamber.
So, to answer your question, if you are going to shoot steel cased ammo in your AR, just remember to use a good chamber cleaning brush between range trips. Other than that, clean just like you would when shooting brass case ammo. Nothing special needs to be done other than thorough and often chamber cleaning when shooting steel case ammo as it is not corrosive. Hope that helps!
Maybe you need more range time Jered. One good shot beats three fair shots. Spray and pray is what you get when you think ‘I have seventeen rounds, so maybe I can get a good one’. When you know you have only seven or eight, you take the extra tenth of a second to make it count. If you need more bullets, maybe you should carry an Uzi with a thirty round magazine. A single .45 to center mass beats thirty 9mm holes in the air!