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I agree with the author about this. The only thing I would add to his list, is class size. The ratio of students to teacher is important. I see this at our municipal range as an RSO, one instructor and 10 -15 students vs one and 3 or 4. The smaller class gets more one on one time. My CC and PD instructor would take no more than 3 at a time.
I have received CCW training from instructors in “stand your ground” and “required to flee if possible” states, both.
The instructor in the required to flee state spent much time on the legal, moral and financial repercussions of lethal defense. This is smart and necessary, of course, but he spent much time on it, and peppered his talk with repeated caveats throughout the course.
I could not shake the impression that he was inherently creating people that are not prepared to carry a weapon at all. Instilling massive fear will result in doubt and delay when you can least afford it, in my opinion.
The instructor in the stand your ground state, my current and permanent home, also went over the same legal, moral and financial consequences, but in a much less threatening way. We need to know these things, but must use that knowledge to help us, not hinder us. This instructor was a former policeman who had used his weapon more than once.
The bottom line, I guess, is if you are not prepared and trained to use your weapon, and use it to kill someone, you should not carry one.
In addition to attending several training courses over the years, I shoot my carry weapon at least once a week. I am comfortable with it and fairly proficient. I know what it is for, and I know the circumstances I’m prepared to draw and use it. I will not hesitate.
That is the legacy of a good initial trainer, in my opinion.
This is all well and good, but if a bad guy wants a gun or even a good guy wants a gun they will get a gun. You can buy 80% guns, you can 3D print a gun, etc. This is all slippery slope stuff. We give them another inch another inch another inch until finally your right is taken away. If we truly had a second amendment we wouldn’t have half the laws and rules we have today. The only way to truly stop every shooting is to ban guns and regulate the sale of every single gun part, every bullet, etc. That is what is called tyranny and it’s coming. Even then can they stop 3D printing? Home machining? Now you’re into regulating more things. Groups like everytown will stop at nothing and neither should we. If you haven’t drawn your line in the sand yet I suggest you hurry up.
I have a Concept V, very similar to the VI, just different sights. My experience is the same as the author’s. It’s a great gun, very accurate, and very reliable. There are lots of 1911s out there, in my opinion Les Baers are among the best.
Please Tom, is there one cancer that’s preferable to another. The 2nd amendment is the only freedom that stops the US government and foreign governments from forcing there will on us. Anyone that fails to realize that John McCain or George Bush or Obama or Chuck Schumer. Thinks they are the privileged keepers of freedom. That they are superior in intellect and wisdom to the commonwealth. Are just weak and defeated already. The government serves it’s own interests, not freedom. Not equal justice for all. Just look at the what we have been allowed to see since president Trump has taken office. Obama stole $150 billion from US taxpayers and gave it to the world’s number one sponsor of terrorism. Now we find out our leaders are paying off people to cover up vulgar behavior with taxpayers $. The government is insane and out of control. A parting thought. The education system is effectively dumbing down1 the next generation. Who will stand for the freedom and liberty are fathers and grandfathers fought and died for. Did they died in vain?
Yes, they did die in vain — because they raised a generation consisting of many snowflakes plus a sprinkling of utter fools.
The snowflakes want the government to take away all freedom so that they will never have to face reality. Meanwhile the utter fools run around babbling catch phrases like ‘cold dead hands’ and complaining about “the government”
The US has gone from #GreatestGeneration to #GenerationSnowflake in just seventy years. The end is not far off.
As others have observed:
“A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.
Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage.”
Or has Robert Heinlein put it:
“The America of my time line is a laboratory example of what can happen to democracies, what has eventually happened to all perfect democracies throughout all histories. A perfect democracy, a “warm body” democracy in which every adult may vote and all votes count equally, has no internal feedback for self-correction. It depends solely on the wisdom and self-restraint of citizens… which is opposed by the folly and lack of self-restraint of other citizens. What is supposed to happen in a democracy is that each sovereign citizen will always vote in the public interest for the safety and welfare of all. But what does happen is that he votes his own self-interest as he sees it… which for the majority translates as ‘Bread and Circuses.’
‘Bread and Circuses’ is the cancer of democracy, the fatal disease for which there is no cure. Democracy often works beautifully at first. But once a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader – the barbarians enter Rome.
Mine was a lovely world – until the parasites took over.”
Love my 1860, didn’t take long to learn the sights and shoots smooth. It has a feel of a black powder with a little more umph. My wife has never shot anything but her Golden Rose, but when I loaded up the 1860 she wanted to try it out. She likes it and said it sire don’t kick much as she thought. I like my Henry’s, and prefer using them over other rifles in the same class.
It’s one thing when you are defending your life it doesn’t matter what you are wearing but when you are sharing a firing line with others as an instructor you want to set a good example. If a student without a lot of practice under their belt sees their instructor do it they might think it’s oKay until they do the hot brass dance and shoot the person next to them. I have no idea of the skill level of the person next to me at the range but if I see open shoes or a low cut tank top I’m not hanging around to see how long they can keep their muzzle discipline up with hot brass on the skin. If someone wants to practice alone naked have fun but a semi public range is not where you want to assume how disciplined the person sharing the firing line is.
Great article. Character. Conditioning. Confidence. Prerequisites for best practices and deciding when the hammer falls. Conversely, there is no way of deciding how much you are willing to lose until you have lost it. The ultimate catch 22. You will never know until it’s over and then it’s too late. After that, the deed has cumulative not additive value. Maybe additional reaction time in another gunfight. But, life as its own reward is not any more kind in self defense than social media. The mind tends to snapshot the event and people do not let you forget. The reasons for the event are lost in the life created as something else altogether. I have no idea what I could lose again.
In the years I’ve spent knocking around the world I’ve carried a number of platforms. I settled early on a Browning Hi-Power early on, which I still have and use as a backup today. My primaries have come down to the full frame Baby Desert Eagle in .45 APC an the Bren 10 in 10mm. If the Baby Desert Eagle was produced in 10mm I’d be carrying that. I can only imagine the increase in accuracy of the 10mm in the DE rifleing.
I was able to get a Bren 10 in 1984 and never looked back. I also have a Delta Elite also but the Bren is my EDC. I never understood why it wasn’t considered a favorable caliber. I have always found it to be quite like the .41 Magnum another caliber in performance that I also enjoy. If handled properly and firmly it’s quite comfortable. The 10mm Short or what has become known as the .40 SW is the evolution from the 10mm to tame it down and yet keep the best of its specifications and performance, a makeover that was highly successful. Have several platforms in .40 but of them all my Baby Desert Eagle Compact is head and shoulders above the others.
~Pete in Alaska