Ammunition

Powder Attack: The Next Wave of Gun Regulation

Senator Harry Reid has introduced a new bill, S.792, that the majority leader (D-NV) has labeled as “A bill to strengthen the enforcement of background checks with respect to the use of explosive materials.” In short, the measure would require background checks for anyone purchasing “explosive materials” or “powders” commonly used to manufacture ammunition and fireworks, according to The Hill.

Because language of the Lautenberg bill isn't official, it's possible that all types of powders and ammunition propellants could be affected.
Because language of the Lautenberg bill isn’t official, it’s possible that all types of powders and ammunition propellants could be affected.

The pretext for the bill is the Boston bombings, which S.792’s co-sponsor Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) “shows that background checks are needed for explosive materials.” Tamerlan Tsarnaev, now deceased, and his 19-year-old brother Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, who’s currently in a prison hospital after being wounded in a shootout with police, are said to have used blackpowder from common fireworks to manufacture the bombs that left three people dead and hundreds wounded. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is charged with using a weapon of mass destruction to kill, a crime that carries a potential death sentence.

Lautenberg said in a press statement, “It defies common sense that anyone, even a terrorist, can walk into a store in America and buy explosive powders without a background check or any questions asked. Requiring a background check for an explosives permit is a small price to pay to ensure the safety of our communities.” Purchasing more than 50 pounds of blackpowder already requires a background check. The new bill would lower the thresholds and will also include “smokeless powders,” which are used for the production of ammunition.

Source: TheHill.com

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Comments (37)

  1. I lived in the Middle East and I have seen government go off the rails. The very first think they do is to go after firearms and ammunition. Then the want gun registration due to crime, militant threats etc. The all of a sudden NO guns and NO ammunition is allowed. Then the government Jackboots’ come out of the closet and you will find one on Your throat. Don’t put up with this or you will suddenly find yourself a slave and the powers to be will gun you down in the street like rabbits and they will have a free hand to do so as you will be powerless to resist. Once the 2nd Amendment to the Bill of Rights is gone so is America!

    Don’t put up with these lies as they are pure poison and will eventually cost you and your family their lives, their Freedom and Liberty…………….. If the 2nd Amendment dies you will die right along with it. Don’t think it can’t happen here as it Can!

  2. I have just had it with all the “People contro”l bs. I bought my legal guns with my legal wages after taxes paid. If the freaky fed was not bad enough now the UN wants to chime in on guns here. Folks it ain’t happening while I am still breathing. Now I hear Wendy the Abortion Queen wants to be gov and what else does she bring up? Gun Control. Have any of you read the Obamacare lingo about forced in Home instections? I hope they show up wearingan Obama mask.

  3. That bastard Harry Reid just never stops. For a man who is supposed to be so intelligent, he really wears blinders. How Nevadans keep voting him into office is a mystery.

    Reid has never stopped to realize that creating such a stupid law will do NOTHING to dampen firearm or bomb-related crime. The only reason he is touting such a law is because he knows the news media will applaud his thinking, flawed as it is.

  4. NO “It defies common sense that anyone” cannot see the Nazi Agenda of the Obama Crowd in DC….its the same old thing….in American Society you have Groups A, B and C, the A Group folks are exemplary, charitable, law abiding every day hard working good people, B Group are good folks who do only what is required to live day by day and the C Group are the scumbags our government wastes time and money on chasing every day only to justify their jobs. Today’s US Government treats all A and B Groups just like they do the C Group. It easier, more profitable (in fines and permit fees) and they can gain control over the good folks. They use the acts of the scumbags to justify the exercise of more control on the good folks. Obama….why waste a good crisis? Lautenberg and Reid quote “Requiring a background check for an explosives permit is a small price to pay to ensure the safety of our communities.”
    No, its a huge price to pay when such control erodes our Constitutional Rights and when they jack up the fees in coming years and restrict the timely issuance of permits because the 1000’s of government employees they will have to hire to properly “regulate” the ridiculous laws they pass but can’t administer. Oh, and don’t forget that the head of the dept. will need to spend $40K of our tax money on a portrait of themselves to hang in the dept. office. Leave it to each state to regulate these kind of issues. Its time to fire em all……honestly these Feds don’t give a hoot about the American People.

    Best joke I’ve heard in the past year…..did you hear, Obamacare is going to put a huge tax on Aspirin……..because its white and been working for many years.

  5. L4D2 Old Dude I DID SOME RESEARCH AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU DID NOT GET YOUR BACK GROUND CHECK TO EXERCISE YOUR FREE SPEECH RIGHT ….

    DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA THE PENALTY FOR EXERCISING YOUR FREE SPEECH RIGHT WITHOUT A PERMIT…?
    IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY IT IS THE SAME AS EXERCISING YOUR 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS WITHOUT A PERMIT

    I BET A RASCAL LIKE YOU DON’T EVEN HAVE A PERMIT FOR YOUR 4TH or 5TH AMENDMENTS RIGHTS EITHER…

    FOR YOU INFORMATION => IF IT WAS NOT FOR BACKGROUND CHECK BUREAUCRATS (POLITICAL FRIENDS — WHO WERE GIVEN or BOUGHT THEIR JOBS (VEASAW Vs UNITED STATES))

    WOULD NOT HAVE JOBS AND WOULD HAVE TO GO OUT INTO THE REAL WORLD FOR A REAL JOB

    WHERE IF THEY TRIED TO PULL THEIR NAZI POLICIES ON THE PEOPLE
    WHILE NOT WEARING THE NAZI UNIFORMS… WELL YOU KNOW PEOPLE WOULD JUST ….

  6. You’ll need to have a background check everywhere you shop. W-Mart, gun shops – black and smokeless powder, products containing lye like drain cleaner at the supermarket, fertilizer, paint thinner, pesticides, metal pipe and propane at the hardware store, battery acid from Sears, match heads from anywhere,etc. Am I going to need a background check and a waiting period to buy Vaseline? The federal government is already a big pain in my a** and I won’t even be able to treat it!

  7. Everyone that made a D- or better in chemistry knows you can make a bomb out of water…

    Their agenda is to infringe on the 2nd amendment to the U.S. Constitution…

    Tell me are the going to ban water now….?

  8. Strange I thought that most of the bombs that have been exploded by terrorists in this country have been made using fertilizer and other chemicals. If they do put restrictions on gunpowder. It won’t be long before they will put background checks on the purchase of fertilizer or would that put their jobs in Washington in jeopardy. Everyone knows that more fertilizer comes out Washington than any other place in the world.

  9. If we give into these jacka$$es, then anything with a sharp point including a pointed stick will be illegal to carry. We will have to give up our knives and forks so I guess we will have to give up eating steak and other meats and vegetables that require slicing into bite-size pieces. I guess that if we have these jerks running around in prehistoric times they would have outlawed stones and rocks and sticks and kept us in the dark ages forever.(unless we get a special permit from the government).
    Also, this ‘political’ correct crap is getting way out of hand….it’s destroying America!
    Instead of going forward for the better, for 200 years, we are definitely crawling back into a hole. First of all, I say defend the United States of America and its borders! Quit giving our tax dollars outside of our borders to these radicals and fanatical jacka$$es that have an agenda to destroy America!
    We have plenty of problems inside of our borders to clear up including starvation, crime, housing, transportation, roads, buildings, etc. I say use our tax money to fix America instead of trying to fix the rest of the world and let America go down the tube….
    Nowadays there doesn’t seem to be any of our politicians working for the people. They are interested in creating their own agenda even though they don’t have any ‘common sense’ at all! I am dumbfounded why American legal citizens vote for these ‘idiots without common sense’ and place them in office to live like kings and queens the rest of their lives and to be above the law when it comes to their crimes against the united states is concerned.
    Also, these politicians that we have in office now, do not have any ‘think tanks’ to prepare themselves for future attacks…they wait till our enemies attack us and then panic and put a kibosh on what they used at that time. (liquid explosives, black powder, airliners, shoes, underwear, etc.)…then they just concentrate on checking our luggage and are shoes and her underwear etc. At security stations for just a short time and then they ease up on their security until tell the next time we are attacked in a different way.
    I say “take care of our united states of America first”, pull our troops from the eastern countries and if they attack us, destroy them instead of putting our troops in harms way!……and also get rid of these idiot politicians that are destroying our America from the inside! As a country gets older, you would think that things would get better because of new ideas instead of these jacka$$es that are crying (Chicken Little) “the sky is falling!!!” Wake up America, we have a serious fight on our hands to make America strong and united and defensible.

  10. Even in Red China they sell fireworks from street-side shops without a background check. America is supposed to be the world’s example of freedom and justice. So why do we feel it necessary to incarcerate 25% of the world’s prisoners, when we have 5% of the world’s population? Wake up, America! The fascists are coming for your guns, and then they’re coming for you.

  11. I keep screaming this on every web page dealing with these d@ck heads… TERM LIMITS!!! WE NEED TERM LIMITS!!! Some of these people have been in office for twenty five years or more. Both houses need term limits. Thank You.

  12. Black powder is made from potassium nitrate, sulphur, and charcoal. Does this mean I have to get in line for a background check every time I want to throw a few shrimp on the barbie? I like the proposal for a minimum IQ of 50 for any politician – – – my home state of Arizona wouldn’t have anybody on the hill if that were the case!

  13. How about fireworks? How about someone who buys matches? How about the dozens of other household chemicals that can be used to construct a bomb? Why not have mandatory background checks for anyone who wants to fill their gas tank? How about the homeowner or camper who wants to fill their propane cylinder? I can go on and on but you know as well as I what Reed, Obama and the socialists are up to. They want desperately to center in on any and all Americans who have firearms and those who reload their own ammunition. Give them nothing, period, nothing. If I were the GOP house speaker I would stone wall these socialists every day until they’re out of office. Then again, I’m an American not a politician.

  14. I could have sworn in the Star Trek: TOS, the Arena episode the ingredients for gun powder was clearly stated. It’s something like sulfur, carbon and salt peter. Is that to be regulated too?

  15. THEY ALLOW IN FOREIGNERS
    WHO COMMIT TERROR
    AND
    THEY NOW WANT OUR RIGHTS => IN THEIR DREAMS

    THE ENEMY COMBATIVE YOU LET IN AND BLEW UP A BOMB ON OUR STREETS
    AND WE ARE TO “”TRUST”” THEIR (GOVERNMENT) JUDGEMENTS => IN THEIR DREAMS

    PEOPLE FOR THOSE WHO CAN NOT SEE
    LET ME EXPLAIN

    REVOLUTION..!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0zp9uX9B6I

  16. I was making my own black powder as a pre-teen. Used commonly available ingredients. This was before YouTube, Google, etc. If you can’t buy it, borrow it, or steal it, you can easily make it. The ignorance of politicians is abysmal.

  17. Maybe the solution to our nations security and 2nd admendment troubles should start with extensive back round checks on all elected and appointed officials!

  18. The government is buying more ammunition than it needs according to some news sources to keep it out of the hands of legal gun owners. If they cannot get the gun control laws passed, they will keep trying and this is just another way to pick away at the second amendment. If the commercial manufactured ammo is not available the only alternative for us is reloading. Now they want to stop that as well to further deny us ammunition. Disgusting!

  19. are YOU FOLKS READY FOR THIS………… since the A-HOLES in BOSTON used a PRESSURE COOKER soon they will be outlawed ! ! ! ! then FRY DADDYS and FRY BABIES and that BLENDER you use to make the energy drink that tastes like crap…G O N E .. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STOCK UP ON APPLIANCES SOON THEY WILL BE GONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ! ! ! ! !
    R E M E M B E R YOU HEAR IT HERE FIRST ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

  20. If the knowledge about these two terrorists and their family by the FBI and CIA was not acted on, how would any additional laws help. This is just like the immagration issues – instead of forcing the administration to enforce the laws on the books, tese idiots just make additional laws that don’t hamper anyone who would ignore them in the first place!

  21. These commies will try and take all our rights away we have to fight them and vote them all out of office!!

  22. I think some of you here need to stop with the anger (“These a$$holes are not going to stop”) and instead try to understand the other side of this issue in the same way that we as gun owners, demand that the anti-gun people consider our point of view.

    This is happening as a result of the Boston attack. Whenever a highly visible tragedy occurs (eg. Newtown or Boston), people demand of our government to take some action. That’s just how it is – its human nature. The politicians are inept at solving problems in my view, so they latch at the first idea that comes to mind. If someone kills with a rifle, lets ban the rifle. If someone makes a bomb, lets prevent them from getting bomb making materials. Its a knee-jerk reaction and very short sighted. But again, its human nature. Powders used for firearms are not well suited for use as explosives because the burn rate is too slow. But politicians won’t get that. Instead of the anger, we need to calmly educate people. We gun owners are in the minority and we need to keep that clearly in mind and conduct ourselves correctly. Thank you, end of rant.

  23. How bout pyrodex? Will grandpa and all the muzzloaders need a background check EVERYTIME to get propelleants? The purpose of this bill is to overwhelm NCIS so the “common sense” solution will be a FOID -like card for reloaders. There is little focus on FIREWORKS which is what these chechyan jihadists who got visas under Obama use to make the bombs. Dirty Harry… doing everything and anything to not “waste a good crisis” and advance the lefts decades long agenda to restrict gun rights. The left will stop at nothing to lay the groundwork for a “common sense” owner if not full gun registry.

  24. Clearly we need background checks on our politicians to qualify that they have a minimum IQ of 50 or more AND they are truly educated on all facets of any issue they want to pass legislation on.

  25. MARK MY WORDS…. this is a backdoor to registering not guns (yet) but GUN OWNERS. Background check every time someone buys powder for reloading? Whats next a background check for ammo too? Think of how cumbersome this will be for the FBI NCIS and the states. No doubt if this one slips in under the radar, there will be calls from law enforcement and all these agencies who perform checks to just issue “black powder lisences” or something to that effect to reloaders. This would be similar to Illinois FOID card. NEVER FORGET:if existing laws were enforced and warnings taken heed 2 Chenchnyan radical islamic jihadists woul ld not have been let in this coumtry. Obamas admin rolled out the red carpet and ignored all the intel on these dirtbags in order to manufacture another crisis

  26. Continued gun-related registrations seem to fill a political niche better than actually producing a safer country when evidently people like those who helped the Boston Bombers recently can come-and-go into this country on EXPIRED visas. Come on people who are you regulating? Who Senator Reid? Every single regulation seems to only be directed at American citizens who lawfully exercise a right guaranteed them by the Constitution of the United States of America. Can you Democrats understand that document or do you need it written in Spanish or Farsi for you to be able to do that?

  27. What’s next from these so called leads? Background checks on propane for the grill, fuel for the car, heating oil, batteries? Lets not forget about wire and pressure cookers? The people have lost the bubble on what is important to America. The waste our money on stupid stuff like this rather than do their jobs. Where is the fraud waste and abuse oversight on these government servants? If the average citizens work performance equalled that of our government body we would be fired. It’s time to start firing politicians.

  28. Smokeless powder is not an explosive, it’s classified as a propellant. Black powder is an explosive. This bill is nothing but more hogwash coming from the Liberal side. So now the pack of bottle rockets that I buy the kids for the 4th of July will require a background check. Just another roadblock for law abiding citizens to purchase legal items.

  29. Let’s kill off the fireworks industry in the U.S.

    This is the same type of knee-jerk reaction of “Do something!” that created the wasteful and not needed TSA.

  30. But, and this is a BIG BUT,….. Lautenburg, that’s not what those guys from Trashganistan used, so no, that will do nothing which would prevent another tradgedy like what occurred in Boston, now will it? To do that, you’re gonna have to do background checks on fireworks purchases on everyone. And no straw purchases, performed by nine and ten year olds, either. Nobody’s consulted with the Chinese on this either, I bet.

  31. They are trying to squeeze the life out of true Americans. Those that believe in freedom from tyranny and an oppressive, intrusive government. This actually applies to both parties. Such nonsence. Such a “knee-jerk” reaction to every tragic event Where are the adults?

  32. Well, there went sparklers for the kids on the Fourth of July. It’s like these guys just want their names on laws so that they can claim some sort of legacy. It really makes no other sense because they must know these petty and annoying laws will never really stop a determined terrorist.

  33. These a$$holes are not going to stop. Everyone of them needs to go. How many ways can you make a bomb without “black powder”? I am sure there are plenty of ways. I reload, but not a ton like a lot of shooters. We have got to keep vigilant on these career liars…….errr I mean politicians. We have to remind them, they work for US!

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