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Obama and Rubio: Who got Pinocchios? Who Received the Gepetto Rating?

Now that the New York Times has openly shown its true colors by putting an opinion piece on the front page and calling for gun confiscation, the Washington Post instead took a different approach. Instead of publishing opinions, the Post opted for fact checking and left the bias on the printing room floor. In fact, the Post’s Fact Checker column concluded that Barack Obama deserved a rebuke for recent comments on gun control, while giving a statement by Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) its highest award for credibility.

obama-capture Of particular note in the Post’s article were Obama’s repeated claims that high-profile shootings do not happen with the same frequency in other countries. For example, President Obama during his June 19 speech before the anti-gun U.S. Conference of Mayors said, “[w]e are the only advanced country on Earth that sees these kinds of mass shootings every few months.” This is so patently false; it is unlikely that it took much of a sleuth find the falsehoods. All the post had to do was research the rate of deaths resulting from mass shootings in 11 countries (conducted by State University of New York-Oswego professor Jaclyn and Texas State University’s H. Jaymi Elsass). In the article, the Post points out, “The United States had a lower rate of mass shooting fatalities per 100,000 people than Norway, Finland, or Switzerland.” The President’s speeches had so many flaws, the Post did not stop there. The Post looked to economist John R. Lott, “If you are going to compare the U.S. to someplace else, if you are going to compare it to small countries, you have to adjust for population. Alternatively, compare the U.S. to Europe as a whole.” When this method is applied, Lott contention reveals that, “2009 to 2015 shows the rate of mass shootings in the United States and Europe are about the same.” In the end, after calling the President out for his falsehoods and misleading claims, the Post concluded the article with an appeal for more transparency and honest from the nation’s leader, “[w]e urge the president to be more consistent and precise in describing mass shootings in the country… rather than using vague or misleading phrases.” Perhaps the Post had a moment of weakness or was in the giving mood when it awarded the president just two “Pinocchios.”

The Future and the Second Amendment

Who knows for sure what the future will hold. Obama still has a year to use to his phone and his pen. What he cannot do through the Congress, he has hinted he will do without it. Presidential candidates are lining up though and many with pro Second Amendment agendas, a few with very anti Second Amendment agendas.

NASHVILLE, TN - APRIL 10: U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) speaks during the NRA-ILA Leadership Forum at the 2015 NRA Annual Meeting & Exhibits on April 10, 2015 in Nashville, Tennessee. The annual NRA meeting and exhibit runs through Sunday. (Photo by Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)
NASHVILLE, TN – APRIL 10: U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) speaks during the NRA-ILA Leadership Forum at the 2015 NRA Annual Meeting & Exhibits on April 10, 2015 in Nashville, Tennessee. The annual NRA meeting and exhibit runs through Sunday. (Photo by Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)

For example, Sen. Rubio recently earned top marks for a December 4 statement on CBS This Morning, “[n]one of the major shootings that have occurred in this country over the last few months or years that have outraged us, would have been prevented by the proposed gun laws.” This is a point the NRA, the Shooter’s Log and many of this readership have made on time and again. With even just a modicum of common sense applied, it is easy to deduct that anyone committed to carrying out a mass attack (murder) against innocents at a soft target—by an often suicidal perpetrator—would never be deterred a law that made acquiring the firearm illegal. However, expecting lawmakers to use common sense, at times can be a stretch. So, for proof, the Post examined 12 high-profile shootings to determine whether any of the more popularly supported gun control proposals, such as semi-auto restrictions and bans on private transfers (known as the gun show loophole), could have prevented the incident.

The Post’s conclusions will not be much of a surprise to any of us. “Rubio’s statement stands up to scrutiny,” earning the Post’s highest award for truthfulness, the “Geppetto Checkmark.” As if that was not sweet enough, the Post went on to deliver the coup de grâce with the following, “three of the mass shootings took place in California, which already has strong gun laws including a ban on certain weapons and high-capacity magazines.” It is not often the main stream media (or politicians in many cases) get it right when it comes to our Second Amendment rights or exposing the fallacies spewed by the gun control crowd. Image what the gun control debate would look like if more media outlets analyzed the facts and reported them truthfully. Most likely, there would not be a debate at all if more voters were better educated with the truth.

How will you help educate voters and pressure the mainstream media for truth in their reporting? Share your thoughts and solutions in the comment section.

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Comments (53)

  1. I watch and read many different new sources: realclearpolitics, politico, new york times, washington post, newsmax, boston globe, just to name a few. Check out new york area news an find that they’ve discussed new York’s ban an confiscation of citizens fireames.

  2. US Supreme Court recent decision: District of Columbia v Heller – The US supreme court states that the core purpose of the 2nd amendment is self defense – ruled that the amendment protects an individuals right to keep and bear arms ” in case of confrontation, without regard to a persons relationship to a militia”

    1. @ Steve

      Actually It Doesn’t! In WDC, you have Provided “Proof of Need” to Conceal Carry. If you Can’t Provide Adequate Proof for that Need, a Committee can Turn-Down your Application.

    2. Actually it DOES. The Supreme Court ruling is what it is. Whether states, counties, cities or districts adhere and follow that ruling is another story. Just because D.C. may require you to first have a reason, doesn’t diminish or change the fact of what the Supreme Court ruled, which in itself is the entire problem and why the case had to go to the Supreme Court in the first place. The issue now is; why are these cities, counties or districts who continue to violate people’s rights AND the court’s ruling now being charged and prosecuted? In other words, the court ruled so why aren’t these places being held accountable? It goes back to the way too big and way to out of control government who won’t charge or prosecute itself, even when it is in CLEAR violation of its own rules and laws, hence why Hillary Clinton isn’t in jail, along with a LONG list of others who if you or I had done anything even remotely what they have done would be locked-up with the key thrown away.

    3. Well put!!! If the dems don’t like our constitution with the bill of rights. Then move to a country where there is no rights. I’m sure the UK or Australia would love to have like minded people move there. What part of shall not be infringed do they not understand.

    4. @ Arron

      I live in Northern Virginia, and own a business in DC. I applied for a CCW Permit, and was Turn Down. THAT’S HOW I KNOW!

    5. That was my whole point Michael. Regardless of what the Supreme Court ruled, their ruling is still (illegally) being ignored by LOTS of states, counties and cities. You said in your response to Steve that the court ruling “didn’t” say that in he Heller case. Or at least that’s how “I” took it anyway. I was merely pointing out that yes, indeed that’s what was ruled upon, but that the ruling is simply being ignored. It’s okay for them to rule and make laws for us that we HAVE to follow or we get arrested and jailed, but when it comes to THEM having to follow their own rules and laws, they get to do whatever they want with zero repercussions. It seems that this is the status quo for the politically elite these days. I live in California where the 9th Circuit Court ruled that we no longer need to provide a “valid reason” for getting a CCW, but that ruling is also being completely ignored and is now stalemated in the ridiculously slow system again, awaiting yet another ruling on it. It’s a joke. The right clearly says it cannot be infringed, yet they continually screw us with infringements all of the time… and get away with it. I feel your pain.

  3. My solution to gun control!
    If you’re a Liberal then you can’t have a gun!

    Don’t worry Libs, us Christians and Conservatives will protect you until the police arrive.Heck, it only takes them 15-45 mins to respond. How much dying can you do in that amount of time anyway? Also, you guys keep saying, “if we just take away the guns then people who are mentally insane won’t be able to get them” Well, I say, if you are still a Liberal after 7 yrs of Obomination and have seen the fundamental transformation of the US into a socialist broke european hades hole, then you are also insane and you should definately not own a gun! Why, uh, cause you are also freaking insane! But, its ok that you are, don’t worry, the inept federal government will take care of you with all the free handouts you voted for. It’s ok though, there is a peanut or two for you at the end of your sacralige rainbow. After all, this is the undefined Hope and Change you voted for isnt it?

  4. ‘The strongest reason for the people to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against the tyranny of government. [Thomas Jefferson]

  5. We need to shut down Liberal antis by using their own tactics/language:

    Right to own a gun is an undebatable and undeniable fact and the debate to enact gun control laws should not be revisited (a la global warming)

    You can’t talk about gun control putting me in same category as killers just because I own a gun. It’s bigoted, hateful, hurts my feelings and I’m offended (a la political correctness)

    You can’t call the killers “shooters” because not all people who shoot guns kill others. You can ONLY refer to them as “extreme criminals”  (a la not calling terrorists radical Islamists, calling illegal aliens undocumented workers)

    You can’t take away my 2nd Amendment rights because that is not who we are as Americans (a la justification for admitting Syrian refugees and not deporting illegal aliens, arguments against enhanced interrogation, …)

    Enacting stiffer gun control will be a recruiting tool for “extreme criminals” (a la justification for closing down Guantanamo Bay)

    Gun control is a war on law abiding citizens (a la claims of wars on women, minorities, gays/lesbians, …)

    1. @ Bruce Mezei

      Though your post was brilliantly filled with wit, the entire read becomes much more than just amusing satire if one considers the effectiveness were we to actually reciprocate with such absurd liberal ideologies. Your joke-filled paragraphs actually become valid tactics worthy of real consideration against the liberals – assuming you could get enough intelligent conservatives to play along.

      On another note, I particularly appreciate your “a la global warming” antidote which triggers recollections of the Daddy of all global warming whoppers – Al Gore. I still pay homage to that wonderful “hanging chad” that spared us having to endure his lunacy as a president. Let us not forget this would-be president is the same person that sold books saying the polar ice caps would all be melted by now. It is scary to think this liberal could have been in charge of major US policy.

  6. Funny thing, about this Commander in Chief, during his State of the Union Address he did NOT once add in his Condolences to the families of the people that were slain during the California shootings. His PRIORITY was being good to Muslims everywhere and allowing them into our country. He also, as the President, did NOT state to the American people to be on the alert or to be watchful of our surroundings because the people he’s allowing into our country are the ones responsible for the mass shooting in California. What a lot of Americans DO NOT see is that we are already at war with these imbeciles. The majority of the US is all for hugging and sharing their country with their Muslim neighbors. What isn’t seen yet is that once these F*€kER$ get to feeling comfortable of their surroundings in US, they are going to show a completely different side to their purpose here to the American people. At that point it will be to late. We, as Americans, are completely against this Muslim religion and beliefs, but yet it’s okay to allow them into this country and give them the rights that a lot of our fighting men and women in uniform have died for during confrontations with these same people that America now wants to take in and embrace. The Chief in Command is pretty much sugar coating a subtle take over by trying to disarm Americans and make it a walk in the park for these nutcases coming in to our country.

    1. Take away guns from Democrats, Invading Illegal Aliens, Muslims, Queers & Crack Smokers! That combined is Obama!

    2. @ Chickenhawk

      Opium Addiction stated in the United States, some time around 1870’s, and Heroin Addiction in 1906. GET TO THE POINT.

    3. In 1865 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.
      In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States, who later died from the wound.
      In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States .
      In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States .
      In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States .
      In 1984 James Hubert, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.
      In 1986 Patrick Sherrill, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.
      In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.
      In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Luby’s cafeteria in Killeen , TX.
      In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.
      In 1999 Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.
      In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US .
      In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.
      In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung – Hui Cho, shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.
      In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep.Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.
      In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes, went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.
      In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis .
      In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza, shot and killed 26 people in a school in Newtown , CT.
      As recently as Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard.
      Clearly, there is a problem with Democrats and guns.
      Not one NRA member, Tea Party member, or Republican conservative was involved in any of these shootings and murders.
      SOLUTION:
      It should be illegal for Democrats to own guns.

  7. obama has been embolden, getting more and more brazen with illegal executive orders since his state of the union speech, where he said he was just going to bypass Congress because of their inactivity. He told the world that he had a phone an pen and he was going to make thing happen through executive orders. Instead of hauling him off the stage in handcuffs our Congreemen gave him 84 standing ovations!

  8. With everything going on in this country, and our brave men and women fighting in other countries for our freedom to own firearms, and for Obama to even consider taking Americans guns away from law abiding citizens would be the most communist thing he could do, I would like to see them knock on the first door and ask to turn over their guns, I don’t think they would make it to the second door, our constitution was written for a reason and not to be messed with, so I would like to see him try to, I believe he would not make it the end of his term, he wants to take our guns and give them to the enemy, who’s team is he on, we need to make a stand and support the NRA and help stop this communist before it’s too late and we in up in a war with our own government that would tear this country apart. UNITED WE STAND TOGETHER WE FALL!

    1. It would be good if we stood together on gun confiscations, but we’ve been standing by while New York has been banging on doors an taking citizens weapons with no or little response. So much for standing together. Confiscation of firearms is already happening!

    2. Can you elaborate on this “banging on doors, taking citizens weapons” you speak of? I haven’t heard a single gun rights advocate, or a single word or peep from anyone on facebook, or ANY news from any gun owners in New York who have, or know of someone getting their guns taken. Oath Keepers, the NRA, NAGR, The 2nd Amendment Foundation, and dozens of other sources who have tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of members and followers in just New York alone haven’t said a peep about it. I believe if this were happening, SOMEONE (one of the people who got their guns taken) would be screaming about it and it would spread like wild fire. There’s a LOT more to news spreading than the news and media, especially through blogs like this one and within the thousands of pro-gun rights organizations, groups and millions upon millions of members and supporters throughout this nation, so could you please provide some sort of proof or actual account of these events happening? If they are happening, I will help get the word out and make sure people know about it.

    3. I don’t know where you get your info as I talked to a lot of people and nobody know’s anything about this !!!

  9. I find your commentary getting more neo-fascist than I like. I remain the right wing’s worst fear. An armed liberal.

    1. @ Lawence Dawson,

      And thus will be your downfall for assuming yourself to be our worst fear when in-fact you are not even close.

  10. If Rubio were president the 2nd amendment wouldn’t matter. We wouldn’t have any jobs with which to buy toys and ammo.

  11. The truly amazing part of this story is WHO printed it to begin with. All the Liberal rags out there, calling themselves “Newspapers” instead of the more truthful “Democratic Party Propaganda Machine”, must be having a meltdown that one of their own actually printed only facts instead of some anti-gun smear piece. There are no true “News” organizations out there, all have their political agendas. It’s nice to see a break from that norm, and I hope it continues.

  12. Well, the liberals just don’t get it, but the rest of the law abiding citizens in this country do. The 2nd Amendment is there for a reason and not to be tampered with by executive order or other means…PERIOD!

  13. I think that if Obama tries to use an executive order to omit the 2nd amendment to the constitution, he would have hell to pay!

    Not only is it not legal to use an executive order in that way, a president can not omit an amendment. I dare say that not even congress could omit an amendment of the constitution.

  14. The President’s speeches had so many flaws, the Post did not stop there. The Post looked to economist John R. Lott, “If you are going to compare the U.S. to someplace else, if you are going to compare it to small countries, you have to adjust for population. Alternatively, compare the U.S. to Europe as a whole.” When this method is applied, Lott contention reveals that, “2009 to 2015 shows the rate of mass shootings in the United States and Europe are about the same.”

    According to the 2nd amendment the wording of “A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, being the best security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed;

    A well regulated militia meant then as is it does today all American people armed to fight for freedom from a tannery government and foreign invaders not Unarmed sheep to any slather.

  15. The liberal/socialist/dictator movement is writhing like a worm in a fire. They are attacking private gun owners with more venom than any other group, including Republicans. Why? It has dawned on them where the largest army in the world exists. The American hunter/shooter! We are more numerous than the armies of the largest countries in the world. The “progressive subversive” group fears us because they know, if it came to it, we would stop them from implementing a totalitarian rule in this country! Keep your eyes on those people!

  16. It’s amazing that obama has spent over $1 million covering up his records, that there is still controversy over his birth records, (that a leader in documentation went to Hawaii an reviewed obama’s birth records. He said it was a forgery. Not only that , but a bad forgery), obama’s college loans were filed as a foreign student, who financed his travel to middle east as a student? It’s amazing that obama, as a community agitator, got to the Senate but became president. It’s amazing that with all his lies he got elected a second time. Its amazing that he messed up his oath of office, democrats said he took the oath behind closed doors later with no other witnesses!? It’s amazing that on the evening of the same day in question concerning his oath taking, obama had a meeting on how to attack the 2nd Amendment an take our firearms from us. Its amazing that obama an holder were not convicted for the death of Terry an another border guard an many innocent Mexicans, including women an childred, with firearms that they gave to Mexican drug cartell in “Fast & Furious”!? It’s amazing that obama and hillary weren’t convicted of aiding enemies of the state in another “Fast & Furious” in Libya giving arms to al Qaeda when we were at war with al Qaeda!? It’s amazing that its said that some of those very weapons were used to kill the Navy Seals an Stevens (God rest their soles) in Benghazi!? Its amazing that obama talked the Senate into taking a House Bill for veteran housing/gutting the bill from the folder an replacing it with obamacare (which had nothing to do with veteran housing)!? It’s amazing that obama, through executive order #13603 gave himself power of marshall law, to stay in power indefinately, power to take all our finances, personal and real property an uncompensated labor (slavery) over all Americans!? It’s amazing he passed A.D.A.A (American Defense Authorization Act) requiring the military to imprison Americans for an unlimited period of time, without trial, in military prison camps!? It’s amazing that obama got hillary to introduce A.T. T. (arms trade treaty to UN)!? It’s amazing that he got kerry to sign up America an got the 46 democratic Senators to vote for it!? There is 21 gun control issues in that UN treaty an number 11 allows UN troops to enter all signed countries (including the U.S.) to control and disarm all citizens by force!? It’s amazing that those 46 Senators gave up American sovereignty an failed in their oath of office by voting for this UN Senate Resolution 2117!? It’s amazing with all this that obama, hillary, kerry an the 46 Senators aren’t up for indictments for treason an failing their oaths of office!? It’s amazing that the list goes on!? It’s amazing that obama is laughing all the way to the golf links in Hawaii on our $40 million as I write this!?

  17. Executive (unconstitutional) orders infringing on that 2nd Amendment are coming. Nobody with a modicum of common sense will comply, no matter what they dictate.

    My scarier concern is with our country and those that make up our esteemed “educated” electorate. The quote below, from someone not remotely American, states the concern I have held for the past fifty years of our “evolving/progressive” nation.

    “The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgement to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”

    Vaclav Klaus (former Premier of the Czech Republic)

    Thinking Obama followed by Clinton as NOT possible is the same dangerous naïveté that gave us all the other ‘progressive,’ dangerous to America wonks. America is already either an autocracy or a plutocracy; however, it certainly is no longer a Republic!

    1. @ Firewagon.

      You want Executive Order OVERLOAD. The EO was written by President Abraham Lincoln in 13 November 1862. Called the Confiscation Act of 1862, aka “Suppress Insurrection, to Punish Treason and Rebellion, to Seize and Confiscate the Property of Rebel, and For Other Purposes” Act. It’s “STILL” Law of the Land, and was NEVER removed for the Law Books. This Act makes ANY of Obama’s EO’s, Look Like A Sunday Picnic…

    2. @ Secundius- Comparing that to now is ludicrous. Our country was in the midst of a civil war that divided our nation between north and south. You might as well throw in the various actions taken to house people in internment camps during WWII. If any person thinks that the executive actions taken by this “regime” are reasonable, they are naive, short-sighted, and in the end a fool.

    3. @ Duane Collins.

      What I’m Try to Point Out, the EO by Abraham Lincoln. Basically Nullifies/Suspends, the Constitution of the United States, the Bill of Rights and the Posse Comitatis Act. And as you Apply Pointed Out, the Internment for the Japanese during WW2…

    4. Tis good to see that Secundius, and maybe a few others, recognize that “Father Abraham” was a tyrant and despot. Lincoln did not have any more authority to disarm by Executive Order than Obama does today.

  18. Facts are always harder to HONESTLY argue against- so here are some facts (pulled from various web sites including the CDC and FBI):
    in 2013 approx. 10,076 people were killed in alcohol impaired driving crashes- this is about one third of all the traffic deaths in the US. So the total traffic deaths in 2013 was over 30,000. To use the anti- gunner logic that guns should be taken away to prevent their mis- use (or use by anyone)- then all alcohol should be taken away (our country tried that once and it didn’t work). But- that would save over 10,000 lives a year. Also, what if all cars were taken away- or at least much stricter standards to obtain a license and use a car was put into place. That would in stop over 30,000 deaths per year. In reality- it is not the alcohol or cars that cause these deaths- it is people-through their actions.
    Next- Approx. 100 Americans die from drug overdoses each day- that works out to about 36,500 per year. Deaths from drug overdoses are at an all time high in 2014- mainly from prescription drugs and heroin. This was the LEADING CAUSE of DEATH of Americans in 2014- approx. 47,055 people died from overdoses- this is 1.5 times greater than all those who died in car crashes. To use the anti-gunner logic again- all prescription drugs should bet taken away so they will not be mis-used by people. Lets face it- it is not the drugs causing these deaths- again- it is people- through their own actions.
    Also in 2013 there were about 41,000 suicides and 16,000 homicides. Anti-gunners always want to completely ignore that there is a mental health issue in this country that is not being addressed. From 2012 through 2014 the total number of homicides is about the same – around 13,000 each year. Of that total those caused by all types of firearms is about 8000. People killed with knives, clubs and hands/feet far outnumbers the total number of deaths by rifles and shotguns. Therefore- using anti-gunner non-logic again- all knives, baseball bats, hammers, crowbars and anything else that should be picked up and used as a weapon should be banned or tight restrictions put into place before someone can buy one. The common denominator again is people. I do not have a solution and gun deaths- as with all deaths- are always tragic. But taking way an inanimate object (a gun) from people to “solve” gun violence is simply a non-solution. What are politicians doing to stop drunk driving deaths, car crashes, suicides and drug overdoses? That is not important to them because it does not give them a good “sound bite” for the news while focusing on guns and gun deaths only does.

  19. First of all…Obama’s “errors” are INTENTIONAL!
    He does NOT CARE if they are false, or drastically exaggerated…so long as “his sheep” will believe him. His purpose is NOT to do what is best for America, but to FOOL as many people as possible…like The Emperor with no clothes… for ANYONE with open eyes, they can SEE the falsehood in his words and deeds.
    I would have to write another entire article to respond to each part or point in this one. Not to DIS-agree but to offer support and a deeper level of information and thought. So I will mention a couple of very important ones, and close for now.
    #1) “Mass Shootings” and “Mass Killings” are NOT the same…. Mass Killings does not ‘fit’ Obama’s agenda. And MANY Nations where they HAVE reduced or totally outlawed firearms, they STILL have Mass Killings! There was an attack on a Kindergarten in China only Hours before Sandy Hook…killing 20+ 4 & 5 yr old children and 6 adults, and many more injured … with Knives and hammers! Over 350 people murdered and several hundred severe injuries in the last 2 years in such attacks! And it SHOWS that “No Guns” does NOT mean “No Mass KILLINGS”..!!
    #2) A LOT of the discussion has been about having “Arms” to defend against our own Government turning on the People… But those who say such things are “proof” of the paranoia of ‘gun lovers’ are BLIND to the part of the 2nd A that says “…both FOREIGN and Domestic…”!! So even if it were true (but it isn’t!) that our own Gov’t really can be trusted to never over-reach it’s Authority (which it already HAS) we STILL NEED to be capable of defending against FOREIGN Enemies…who are ALREADY attacking us on our homeland soil!!
    The 2nd A does NOT say we have a right to handguns with 7 bullets, but no rifles other than antique muskets… it says ARMS! Arms Just Like the Government Has!! How else would we be able to defend against our Enemies…?

    1. And should the people ever have to take a stand against an oppressive government (which they already are) we are still under armed. But what puts us on equal footing with the active military…which has planes, tanks, and other devastating weaponry….is our National Guard which is under the command of the Governor of each state, and who have the same weapons as our active duty military. We also have the posse comitatus act which congress would have to override in order for the military to attack it’s own people. However I for one would never take the possibility of a corrupt government being complicit in it’s actions against the people. Therefore, we still must preserve our 2nd Amendment rights, and must fight vigorously to defend them.

    2. I believe most in the military would not turn on their own families and neighbors. I would hope that the vast majority would stand with the American people. It has come to the point where an enlistee has to make a choice; You must either serve your president or you must serve your country. you CANNOT do both.

  20. 56 million+ babies have been murdered here in the U.S. without
    the benefit of one bullet wound(since Roe vs.Wade)via abortion.
    Where’s the lachrymose rancor befitting this little preposterous
    ‘final solution’one upsmanship?

    1. This post isn’t about abortion rights, which are still in affect and protected by Roe v Wade. This post about our second amendment. How about for once, we stay on topic?

  21. It’s not about gun control but intractable ideology. Liberals believe in protection as a means of control for a populace they deem incapable of protecting themselves. Guns are irrelevant. It could just as easily be sodas or bicycles without seat belts..

  22. The “agenda” of the gun grabbers has nothing to do with preventing crime, shootings, robberies and violent assault by crazies. It has everything to do with tyranny and disarming law abiding citizens. We are asked not to judge Muslims by the insane actions of terrorists, but we are asked to judge law abiding citizens by the actions of criminals and drug addled nuts. The goal is tyranny by any means the law be damned.

  23. This is a joke article, right? There is no question that Obama is the second biggest liar in America is . . Hillary Clinton still gets the award for the biggest liar. But then, she’s older and has had more time to practice.

  24. This subject has been put out there by a better candidate already! Ted Cruz went up against the progressive elitist Diane Feinstein a few years ago stating this fact and more.

    Rubio is a rino! Ever wonder why the establishment hates Cruz? He wants to return the power to the people, he has proven through action, not just promises, unlike the rino or current administration! !!!!

  25. You would think that the gun control supporters could simply look to history and see the fallacy of their agenda.

    Prohibition not only did not work in any way, it made matters worse. Smuggling gave rise to greater organized crime. People made their own home brew which resulted in things like blindness and death. Many a lefty got rich (aka Joseph Kennedy), which makes me wonder how many lefties own stock in Colt, S&W, and so many others.

    The National Firearms Act was passed as a means of “protecting the people” and keeping certain weapons out of the hands of criminals. Another utter failure. The mobs still had Thompsons, and more.

    The Assault Weapons Ban. Another failure.

    Bans on so-called “high capacity magazines” have, in many regions, resulted in not one magazine being turned in. Requirements to register those scary black rifles resulting in thousands of failures to register.

    As with prohibition, the only thing accomplished has been to turn good, law abiding people, into criminals, and to divide the populace against one another.

    The difference between prohibition and gun control is that alcoholic beverage is not an enumerated right of the people. At least with prohibition the government followed the Constitution and used the amendment process to enact prohibition, and another to end it.

  26. I suspect this overwhelming change of heart for the liberal media to finally started reporting facts, (facts which of course have always favored our pro-gun position), is that the ISIS threat has become too real for them lately.

    Follow me here… in the past, the random shootings the media reported on were usually carried out by arbitrary psychotics. That still includes the rare and isolated anti-abortion shooters, Columbines, or even the Timothy McVeighs in this Country. So back then the liberal mainstream media had no problem tweaking these stories to help politicians push their antigun agendas.

    But what is happening now is this same liberal media is truly afraid and threatened because they realize these shooting are no longer just random psychotics, but instead an ideologically determined group, that grows overwhelmingly powerful every day, and of which has actually shown an ability to execute a real and systematic plan that is destroying our Western culture and way of life.

    Funny how regardless of politics, that self-preservation will always resurface and force even the most liberally warped individuals to turn tail on their own BS and start using facts to expose politicians’ failed policy when real things like ISIS threaten their ability to go back to BS’ing and living in their warped fantasy world. I expect we’ll see a lot more liberals using more facts and truth until ISIS is under control. Enjoy it while it lasts folks.

    1. Given the absolute dismal failure of Obama’s anti-terrorism . . . )does it even deserve to be called a strategy?) I suspect it’s going to be a long time before IS is under control. Europe is even more pathetic . . the Paris leaders actually escaped from Belgium because of a law there that forbids police to mouth raids between 9pm and 5am. All the bad guys had to do was bail in the night.

      The Lib papers are scared because they are certain they might be next. I guarantee any anti-gun Lib would welcome an armed citizen who pulled their fat out of the fire . . . political ideology notwithstanding.

  27. When do you know when Obama is lying? HIS LIPS ARE MOVING! Too, gun related deaths by country and adjusted for population density, are available on the internet for all who want to see and to see what liars Obama and his ilk are & to what depths they will lower themselves to get their way and deceive American citizens. THERE ARE countries with draconian gun laws with higher gun related killings than the U.S. You cannot trust a politician, even if they claim to be on your side. They all have their own agendas, and helping you isn’t part of it.

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