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Colt Firearms: Is One of the Industry’s Oldest Gun Makers About to go Bust?

Breaking News Update

Hip, hip Hooray and pass the M4s! Colt Defense LLC has received a stay of execution thanks to the deal it struck with Morgan Stanley. By doing so, Colt will be able to not only make its $10.9 million bond payment, there will be enough left over to pay off the existing $48.1 million loan due in December. This will give Colt the time it needs to restructure and rebuild before the loan matures in 2018.

This is good news for Colt fans and removes life support so the patient can breathe. Let’s hope for a full and robust recovery.

“God made man, but Samuel Colt made them equal.”

Are we about to lose one of the industry’s oldest gun makers? There is little doubt about it, Colt is on life support and the vital signs do not look good for one of the oldest and most revered names in the firearm industry. Today, November 17, marks the due date for Colt’s $10.9 million bond payment. There is a 30-day grace period, that would push the default date to December 15. However, even if it does make the payment, Colt owes another $48 million by the end of the year.

Samuel Colt
Samuel Colt

Colt claims that sales are down, which mirrors the sentiments Ruger acknowledged during its latest earnings call. Similar to Ruger’s woes, but much more severe, Colt is expected to report at least a 50-percent decline in income for the latest quarter. Colt blames its predicament on the steady decline in demand from the commercial market as well as delays in government sales. The company reported in June a $20.5 million loss for 2014, down from a $9.5 million profit for the period in 2013.

All of this points to one of a few different scenarios. First, Colt can claim bankruptcy. If Colt does not declare bankruptcy and defaults, creditors will likely force it into bankruptcy and liquidate the assets or the company will operate under the direction and protection of a court appointed bank, limiting major operational decisions. Of course, Colt is a union shop and falls under the United Auto Workers (UAW) so President Obama could step in and offer a government bailout. Yeah, I know; I could not resist.

How would the loss of Colt affect you? Share your sentiments or favorite Colt story in the comment section.

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Comments (409)

  1. Hmmmm I guess i get a little hung-up on History.. First in my mind is that it is a shame that Colt is no longer Colt. If you catch my drift.
    However, 2nd is that a gun company with such an important place in history and, in a time when guns have been flying off the shelves could be so poorly managed that it goes bankrupt.
    Colt will always have it’s place in history but as far as i can see it made it’s own bed by not competing in the modern market. They had the name and reputation but no product.
    Oh well i got my Rugers…………………………….

  2. Colt Mfg. can go EFF themselves. Several years ago, they began their orchestrated campaign to give the middle finger to the consumer firearms market in America. To this I say Good Riddance. I hope their executives, and all of their beloved union workers burn in hell. We have NO obligation to support this dinosaur of a company. DECADES ago, they made quality products. They then STOPPED producing quality consumer products. Since they began their support FOR GUN CONTROL against the law abiding, patriotic citizens of the United States, I and millions of other Americans will NEVER again support this corrupt organization.

  3. I couldn’t agree with you more. I admit I’ve never shot a Colt Single Action (I have an Anaconda, and a Colt Standard .22, I had a King Cobra and sold it and have kicked myself ever since.) ,but I can’t imagine it being better than my Ruger Vaqeuro. I’ve taken a new found interest in my revolvers due to the lack of handgun products our California Overlords allow us to buy, and would love to see Colt put out the old Police Positive that will take +P ammo or maybe even .357. They should forget the 1911 market. Their poor quality control has poisoned that tree for a generation of shooters.

  4. Colt need to pull their heads out their you know where and stop living off a name. Don’t get me wrong I love colt guns but they are rediculiously priced. Why the hell would I spend around $1500 for a SAA when I can get just as good if not better quality Ruger Vaquero. A colt is a colt that will never change or be taken away from them but lower cost and mass production is the only way to survive today. Get with the times because it would be a truely sad day for america is some god damn foreign country ends up taking an american icon like Colt Firearms away from us.

  5. Yea, Obama did a lot for gun sales ironically, but there is a saturation level in the gun market as there is in all markets. What makes it tougher,
    is that a guy like me would prefer to buy a fine “old” gun than a nice new gun.
    Competition in the gun industry is very strong. A company like Colt,has to get ” modern ” to compete. I have been to the Colt plant as an outside vendor. Its an old place, cool as hell. it should be a museum . They need to relocate their production.

  6. Just another GM story. Bail us out! How can you make 9 mill profit in 2013 and be that much in debt in2014? Management sucks. Hell, you can’t find a colt to buy, so what’s the problem? I could write here for hours, but it all sounds like a B.S. story to me.

  7. Today three Jihadists killed twelve people in Paris. I assume they all died on their knees begging for their lives. Hugh Hewitt had some Brit on his show and asked him if perhaps today’s event might make the European governments rethink their policy of having an unarmed populace (and, for the most part, unarmed police). His guests answer was an instant and emphatic “No”. I wonder if the Leftists in this country realize how Ferguson, illegals streaming over the border, and ruthless Jihadists take them further and further away from their Utopian fantasy of disarming the American people? Barack Obama has sold more guns than any one man in the history of the world. Does Obama and his Leftist ilk think that all these people who have seen that they’re on their own should a disaster (either natural or man-made) strike are going to give up their newly discovered gun rights and turn in their firearms, then they’re more delusional than I thought possible.

  8. I sit here with a heavy heart!!!! My wife & I own colt firearms & I must say they are some of the finest weapons on this whole planet!!!! It is an American Horror Story to think that COLT would have to close it’s doors after all these years!! I know it was a pun but if the Government can bail out the banks, the auto industry, then they DAM SURE NEED TO BAIL OUT ONE OF OUR OLDEST FIREARMS MANUFACTURERS!!! What is wrong with this country???? Do the idiots that (we the people) have elected to congress really believe that gun control is the answer??? How stupid can they be?? This country was taken from the NATIVE AMERICANS with guns, it’s been protected & established on the power of our guns. We fought for this free country with guns!!! I wish all the gun grabbers would get mugged, raped, robbed, pillaged or plundered. Then they could pray to GOD for some one with a gun to show up to protect them… I’M MAD!!!!! BUY COLT!!! DUMP THE UNION!!! MOVE COLT MANUFACTORING DOWN SOUTH!!

    1. Colt need to wake up and deal with the current day needs of it’s customers. Make up dated guns to compete with the other companies. if need be can the union and move production to Mexico. Hire and train Mexico’s cheaper paid employees to do the same work as US union workers. Mexico needs the jobs and Colt needs affordable employees. Then they could sell a well made product below the US costs to make it. Giving the customer a better retail price item and making Colt mfg much more profit. This is all possible if Colt really wants make money and stay in business. Springfield is making guns in Brazil so, what would be the problem with Colt going to Mexico? If not relocation, maybe have the parts made in Mexico and assemble the guns in the US. If Mexico is good enough for GM to make their engines. Then why wouldn’t it be for Colt. It’s a different world now and Colt needs to step it up if they want to be in business.

    2. I agree with kicking the union to the curb, but the last thingthis country needs is more jobs going to Mexico.

  9. I was the first to comment on this post. I questioned why Colt was unionized under UAW, but that clearly that was the problem. A company must maintain a profit margin, and that includes the higher daily costs and benefits that are purely union. This wouldn’t be the first time a union negotiated its way right into the closure of a company. An obstinate union put the smelter in Great Falls Mt. out of business, and (I think about) 5,000 employees on the street. Great Falls is a Podunk place to this day. The opinions have been tossed back and forth, some rabidly defending unions, some otherwise, but to answer DOOM, Colt will have to ditch the union and move to ever produce quality pieces ala S&W. The thing to remember, the cost of a product is everything that goes into it, materials, manufacture, transportation, marketing, (the list is long), but lets not forget taxes applied at multiple levels, and employee wages and benefits. Who pays the entire bill? Whoever ends up with it. That would be the consumer. The consumer pays every nickel of all costs of any product. So, if Colt is to stay in business, what costs can they reduce? Pretty easy.

  10. One of the local gun shops here in Houston closed up shop because sales were down.The owner said that Obama was the best gun salesman with all his push for new gun laws. When that didn’t happen, the rush to buy went away.Don’t know what their profit margin was, but I guess not enough to stay in business.

  11. I wish they would start making no frills quality Revolvers again. If S&W can make 400-600$ high quality revolvers, then so can Colt. Stop relying solely on 1911’s, government contracts, and M4’s

  12. Scott, I respect your thoughts on succeeding through commitment, hard work and individual responsibility Without a powerful lobby in congress, the 2nd amendment would have long ago been confined to gun clubs, the Uber rich, who afford $20,000 Perazzi shotguns and the annual fall deer hunt. Even now, we are vastly outspent by Bloomberg, Gates and other mega billionaires. Washington state was a case in point. While Wayne La Pierre isn’t the quickest wit and best representative, the NRA is still the most effective game we have going.

  13. @MacKinnon I believe in my rights as American to protect myself no differently that what you and I are doing right now with exercising our 1st amendment right of freedom of speech. Here’s a point…I have been a hard working employee with a national/international company for 24 years now and have “worked” my way up into a position that earns me a great salary and benefits. I have done this with NO UNION involvement or anyone speaking for me. I choose to not fund the NRA because I don’t believe they “speak” for anything as nobel as yours or my 2nd amendment rights but rather use funds collected to perpetuate their growing organization of fear generators.
    Thanks for you question.
    By the way I agree 100% with your other post to this blog about Sig and H&K and shaking off the obstacles in their path.
    – Scott

  14. Time and competition have passed Colt by. They need to offer more than the rampant Colt emblem and 1911s and SAAs. How about hiring some German engineers and leaving Connecticut for the south. Shake off the unions and Connecticut and its gun laws like a dog shaking off fleas. How about designing and producing some cutting edge weapons like SIG and H&K? As a former Colt collector, I’d like to see them get back in the game.

  15. Colt management is at fault. Dropping the revolver line was a major screw up along with only manufacturing ARs and 1911s. They turned their backs on the civilian markets so why shouldn’t we turn our backs on them

  16. I agree with David, it is Colts upper management that the fault lies. For many years colt has had the ability to build some of the finest guns made, yet their quality control has been lacking, and this has been the case for decades. In the second world war the Remington Rand 1911 were much better than the Colt version of the same gun, in Nam the M-16 was junk, it wasn’t until others worked out the bugs that the gun actually became viable. As a gunsmith I hear a lot on the forums about problems with all types of weapons, and on the 1911 forum it is evedent that there are many that make a better 1911 than colt does and many for less money. In todays world if you want to compete you either need to make things that sell very cheap or make things that are very reliable. Those in the middle are treading on thin ice.

    1. colt should never have dropped the python from it’s line. kept the price at the competitive with ruger and there Gp100. Just one of there mistakes

  17. Mostly I’m interested in Colts that were made in the past 2 centuries. I can’t think of anything they make today that isn’t made just as well or better by someone else. Someone will continue to hang Sam Colts picture here and there but I’m more interested in buying Rugers, S&W and Sig Sauer, etc. for my overpriced firearms. Colt will end up being grist for some hedge fund to rape and leave lifeless by the side of the road.

  18. Colt was the name, everybody knew Colt. They for too many years sat back fat cats off government contracts. They never worried about the free market. It doesn’t take genius’s to figure out what the gun buying public wants…..ask them. Everybody wants a Python, everybody wants a M4, M16, M1911, Cowboy revolvers. Not everybody can pay for them, so you have 2 tiers. Colt made so many different models of AR15 who knows what they are? the second tier can have certain parts made outside the US and be assembled in the USA. First tier totally US made. That has been done for a long time and it works. I would buy a lower model M1911 that works for $450. Call their Tier 2 guns Tier one Colts. Make them in total military and military + versions for 1911 and AR models and Cowboy action guns. The John Wayne .45 for instance. Just some ideas off the top of my head yet Colt does nothing but wait for more government contracts to bail them out. Someone please buy Colt as long as long as they are a US corporation.

  19. Mr. Schultz
    To answer your question, I have worked on both sides in question! And there is lazy people on both sides. There is also very productive people on both sides. The original debate was about people not knowing how their benefits they fondly enjoy today came about. People should put the blame on upper management! Colts management has no innovation. They are the ones that got lazy and tried to ride on reputation. Consumers are smarter now ! ! They should be like Sig Sauer. Go piston. Just a thought from a 10yr Vet ! ! !

  20. @doduler NO BAILOUTS! What a joke for you to even suggest such a thing. Colt would roll over in his grave for such a thing!!

  21. if the government can bail-out the air lines, the car makers, and the insurance companies, why can’t they help an industry that helped make this country a place where those others can exist?

  22. Colt firearms, like many different things we buy, are overpriced. Give the customer a good product, at a decent price, and they would sell more. I know some are going to say they are worth every penny, which may be true. However, how many times have you read on a blog that a buyer had to pass on a colt because he just could not afford it? I have seen this many times. That tells me that Colt is missing out on a lot of sales. Just my opinion.

  23. Secundius
    Your reply makes no sence. I Wasn’t trying to make a point. Just trying to address your accusation that Fox wasn’t doing on site reporting.. I believe they are. I’m dropping this. It is a dumb discussion and I really don’t care.

    1. @ Mc Ruger.

      If you listen to Random FOX News Networks, from around the country their all “singing the same song”. With some variations, as though they were reading for a “pre-prepared” script.

  24. MANY RANGES??!! I’ve been shooting for over three decades and I’ve never seen such a thing. If you can find me a picture of that I’ll give you my private e-mail. I’d love to see that. On the assumption that it is true, your analogy is still a non-sequitur, and we’re getting into a question of semantics I think. I was talking about labor unions that REQUIRE you to join as a condition of EMPLOYMENT in a particular business. The range, assuming it’s open to the general public,may post such a sign even though to me it’s a stupid business practice. Someone may try to bring a anti-discrimination lawsuit, but I’m not sure the courts would look at shooters as a protected class like blacks or women, but I’ll admit I could be wrong about that. It’s somewhat different if it’s a private shooting club. They may be able to say that only NRA members may join, but guests of members may shoot. (Much like Augusta Golf Club prohibits women from joining, though they can play as invited guests.). We’re getting far afield here, but in a nutshell the shooting range is not the same as a place of employment where all sorts of civil rights law applies. Hence the difference. Respectfully, FG

  25. Don’t do MSNBC, or many of the other no reporting Obama lovers. FOX, & Beck is my choice. And the NRA, being Union, don’t think so. And as far as anyone going to the battle front from FOX, don’t blame them. U can’t trust anyone over there, they just shoot U in the back, like our troops. The one thing that’s not being reported, by anyone, and that’s the # of the muslims that are here right now. People keep saying that things are gonna blow up one of these days. Will it be Mexicans, Muslims, or blacks. Obama is pushing it all. The 2 M’s, is the reason why Obama want shut down the border.

  26. I think you’re engaging in a bit of sophistry there, “Z”. By your definition then my church is a union. What we are talking about is a LABOR union. The NRA is a group of members who freely pay dues for the benefits the NRA provides. Mainly to lobby governmental bodies to make sure the member’s interests are represented. I can leave the NRA at any time and my livelihood is not affected one whit. Not so with a lot of labor unions. See the difference? I’ve got no problems with a labor union where membership is not required for employment. I do have a problem with unions that basically say, “You will join our union and pay the dues that we set in order to work here at business X. If you don’t join, you can’t work here.” Why do you think unions fight so hard against Right To Work legislation? Without the coercion the labor union will die (or at least be on life support.) Unions have served their purpose. It’s time for them to declare victory and go home. Companies have to be nimble and employees have to understand that sometimes they have to give in a little bit or the company will die. It may not be “fair” but that’s the reality in a global economy.

    1. Funeral Guy: I’ve been to many ranges that had signs saying “That If your not an NRA member, you can’t shoot here”. So how’s that different from a UNION.

    2. @z
      Really, I’d like the names of those ranges and their locations. A privet club/range …. might ….. be able to get away with that kind of thing but not a public range. Even a privet range would be cutting it’s nose despite its face I would think by pushing such an absurd agenda. Yeah, that kind of segregation mentality is real forward thinking . . . . Not.
      As far as this discussion is concerned it’s gone over the edge of common sence and well beyond the bounds of the original Blog. I know that the CTD/TSL policy is not to interfere with comments on a Blog. Maybe it’s time to review and revise that policy and take a more proactive responsibility for the directions these threads get off to.
      I can’t follow this one any longer as the comments have exceeded relevance and gone out of the bounds of useful information. I will look forward to seeing some of you on other threads.

    3. @Pete in Alaska
      I’m with you as well Sir!

      Let’s move on folks…

      Let’s hope the American “Private” Citizen and Sector can save Colt from itself.

  27. Oh you mean he was serious. Wow, ok, I didn’t think anyone took MSNBC seriously. I mean really I have never talked to any one that didn’t think MSNBC was just a joke.
    As for Fox you may be correct, I don’t know because I don’t watch that either. I’d have to check to be sure but my understanding.is that Fox has been the number 1 watched “news” by a long ways and for a long time. I’ll do some checking to see if they have remote reporters.. I just can’t imagine that they do all their reporting off the wire services.

    Anyway sorry I criticized your chosen source of news but really everyone on both sides just laughs at it.

  28. Yes, unions led the way for those improvements in working conditions. Thank you…mission accomplished…now go away. Unions have now become a racket that is killing businesses. Why do you think the only Union growth is in government unions?

  29. Rod S you can’t possibly be serious. I mean that is a joke right. MSNBC is essentially the US version of Provda. Even the knuckle head progressives agree that they are simply an extension of the White House. Not to mention that no one in their right mind would take any station serious that employed Al Sharpton.
    Ahhhhh you had me going though.

    1. @ Mc R.

      When was the last time anyone on FOX News went into a “War-Torn” country to report the news. They get all the new from other sources, even of the Internet. Their so-called reporter are more interested in their appearance and staying alive, then going into harms-way. And if they do go into a country, it’s usually as “safe” no fighting country, several “hundred’s.” of mile away from the actual fighting. I find it hard to believe that you can make an accurate report of the ongoing fighting with ISIS. If your standing io a street in Austria.

    2. Secundius I read you post again and it is nearly as funny as MSNBC. In fact I find it hard to believe that it came from an adult.
      Geraldo Rivera, Lt. Colonel Oliver North, Greta Van Susteren Sean Hannity, all have done live field reports and I am sure the are several others. However I am not here to defend Fox because I don’t really care.
      In your scenario Obamas press secretaries have no business talking about anything because they haven’t been in the field seeing anything first hand. Right. For that matter none of us should have an opinion on thing we haven’t been directly involved in.

      I think a persons news source says a lot about a person and if you want to watch MSNBC more power to ya.

    3. @ Mc Ruger.

      As you say their “Press Secretaries”, PR (Public Relations) people/staff. Every large organization have them, News Corporations, Police Departments, the NRA, etc. I don’t see you point That like saying Congress has people that served their country in the Military, and yet so few have…

  30. If Colt would fire ALL of the old time, stale, management, take some time off now that they have some borrowed money to breath with, and move the entire operation to either NC, GA or FL and bust their union ties they would be back in black (AC/DC) in no time.
    If they tried the bankruptcy thing to bust their union or tried to fire the lazy union workers (which does not apply to all workers) things would pick up., New Blood in management and getting away from the “Military or Nothing” manufacturing way of thinking, they would be back where they belong and old Sam could stop his grave spinning.
    Get Real, Colt

    1. Follow up to above post: If Colt tried the bankruptcy route obammmy would jump in and do some more moronic executive actions and totally ruin the company in an attempt to save the union. We have seen him do this before and look at those results. Either those companies have sold out to foreign buyers or moved overseas or are about to bust themselves with recalled defective products due to pisspoor union workmanship.

  31. In August 2014, the US. Army essentially “threw-in-the-towel” out of disgust. Because NOT ONE American Made arms manufacturer could even come close to meeting MINIMUM standards for the New US. Army Carbine Competition. Including all the one’s mentioned in this article and Everybody’s favorites in their Comment Postings. Colt’s answer to the competition, was to substitute their CM901 model. With an Enhanced M4 Carbine model that LOST the year before. Their reasoning was “They didn’t what the competition, stealing their secrets”. I don’t know about you guy’s, but I definitely think EVERYBODY on COLT’S Senior Executive Board (a.e. CEO, CIO, CFO, and alike), should be FIRED AT ONCE.

    If you have a New Model and don’t use it. You essentially have a “Paperweight and/or Doorstop”.

  32. The problem with Colt isn’t labor, it is management that is not interested in producing firearms for the civilian market. And why should they? Why try to produce multiple products for a finicky populous when you can produce a single product (M16s and derivatives thereof) for a single customer (the US military) at a guaranteed prophet and no liability risk.

    That said, I’d love to see Colt get back into the gun business, particularly the double action revolver business. Never mind the Python, how about bringing back the King Cobra or a lighter Anaconda? Maybe the could call the new revolver the “New Century Service” or some such.

  33. Colt should and must file bankruptcy in order to form a new company that can compete with Glock (65% market share). The current management is stale they think they can ride on their past achievements. They don’t need to copy Glock nor should they. In the handgun arena they need to make a well balanced weapon (top weight and grip weight) that goes bang each and every time and they must do it with manufacturing technology that will make it competitive in the market place. I don’t think the current management has any concept of how to do this.

    No company that pays a pension (union or otherwise) can survive without government intervention no matter what industry they are in. It doesn’t matter if the workers are productive or lazy the pension concept is unsustainable at best and a foolhardy dream at worst.

  34. I made a similar comment further up in the thread. I live in CA and they’ve passed laws that basically make it impossible to sell new lines of semi-autos, so I’ve been taking out my wheel guns more and more. I’d forgotten how much fun they are to shoot. When it comes to Colt I’m down to the Colt standard .22 semi-auto and the Anaconda. ( I sold a 6″ King Cobra which I wish I had back now. It was a nice gun,).

    I agree with you. Colt should bring back the Python and the Police Positive. I’d like to see what they might come up with in a polymer striker fired pistol (I know it’s jumping on the bandwagon, but it would be interesting to see what they’d come up with.) I think they need to forget about 1911’s for awhile. There are so many companies that are making really good 1911’s . Unfortunately, Colt has trashed it’s reputation when it comes to that model. I’ve read so many comment threads where customers who spent top (AND I MEAN TOP) dollar for a gun that had to make multiple trips to a gunsmith and the pistol still wouldn’t work reliably. One guy said that the only round that would go bang had to be placed directly in the barrel. Apparently, their Customer Service was abysmal as well. Long story short. They need to take some time to let the bad memories fade before they enter the 1911 market again. Just my two cents.

    1. Tom, I agree but the only way to break the Union strangle hold is thru bankruptcy and completely new ownership and management.

      Of course the unions will get the government to step in and take over management (like GM). This will only delay the inevitable.

      Look at what happen to Boeing when they tried to start a non-union shop in S. Carolina.

    2. Tom: Are you truly that stupid, or what. What they want is a work force like the Chinese HAVE. So CHEAP, Like a “Dollar-A-Day” wages, for a 12-hour shift with NO STOPPAGES for Lunch. That CHEAP. No benefits of any kind. Hire 8,9 10-year old’s and give the 120-hour Work Weeks. Getting any Brighter, or still staying STUPID.

    3. A key feature of socialism is spreading the wealth. That is, the provision of some is by the effort of others. As unions push for wages higher than the worth of the work, that is a form of socialism. Unions were once needed, for the conditions you describe, company stores, but those days are long past. If unionism is good for you, personally, it isn’t to the rest of America. Where unions are broken, and where unions have yet to force their way into “right to work” shops, these conditions don’t exist. But, see how ideology has shaped your opinion. Where you stand on an issue depends on where you sit. I don’t, however, believe you will ever see the extreme error in your statement, or that you will ever apologize for calling down Tom’s intelligence.

    4. Labor is worth what the product is worth on the market, and that is after all the other factors, including profit, are accounted for. If people want to buy the product at the labor-inflated price, then others will dome into the market place sell their substitute products at a lower price, and still force the laborers to accept a lower wage, or have no jobs at all.

      If anyone is willing to work for “Dollar-a-Day”, then why should he not be able to work for that amount. The minimum wage has done more to keep people in poverty than any “robber baron” ever did.

      Unions have not done anything, and never did, to improve the lot of workers. Today, the best they can say is that they collect dues and spend it on hiring the best politicians they can buy (off).

      The only way people can earn what you might call a “living wage” is to be productive enough to make that happen, that is a function more of capital and management than it is of an individual worker, after he meets a certain threshold (showing up, being sober, etc.).

      By increasing the wages of people (and benefits, etc.), companies are compelled to introduce labor-saving device — robots and the like — because, at a certain price, the public will not buy the product anymore. So labor costs (along with others) must be kept in check. Many is the union that found itself driving its company into the ground, and, even though they may have won a “moral” (I’d say IMMORAL) victory, the members are all without work. Eastern Airlines comes to mind.

      Only wealth can create jobs, and under the current administration, DESTRUCTION of wealth is the top priority, except, of course, for their own.

    5. ThisEndUP.
      You’re living in the past and listening to your unions BS. No one wants slave labor. Oh and by the way, no one wants dirty air and water, republicans don’t have a war on women, hate gays nor are they universally racist. They do not hate the poor or the middle class. It’s time you stopped listening to the Union and MSNBC and start thinking. Read some history on the Detroit unions and how they have affected California and NY economics. Read about what happened to the Hostess company. I’m not saying unions are the cause of all things bad but they don’t help anything either.

    6. Dear This,

      You nailed it. Colt’s failings are not caused by the workers, but by lousy management.

    7. @ThisEndUpl
      For someone who seems to have their head firmly up and locked within their personal dark and moist space, I am going to presume that your anger management issues are directly linked to your lack of education, primarily, the use and communication ability while using the English language. These issues seem to be compounded by the fact that you seem to have no understanding on how one communicates using web based interactions either. Note to yourself: spelling words in capital letters on the web is the same as YELLING in the real world. People don’t respond well here …. Or there… When yelled at.
      It seems that at some point in your existence that you found yourself, by your own actions I’m sure, in a position where you have been insulted and/or assaulted by some branch of the labor issue. It has now become the lens and filter for your total view of anything and/or anyone connected to the labor issue and that includes just people with an opinion on it in general and as it concerns this specific blog directly.
      If you can’t be involved here, on this Blog, in a manner that shows some respect for other commenters and not the least of which a little for yourself then please find another Blog that will except your insults and disjointed comments because they recognize one of there own.
      In simple words for a simple mind ….. please take you attitude, use of the English language and grammar, and disruptive manner and . . . just go someplace else. Thanks.
      P.S.- should you ever have something worthwhile to say that is actually a sharing of information, revelent and dosn’t belittle others opinions, positions and thoughts please feel free to post again.

    8. ThisEndUp, I hope you can take the points in Pete’s response to you to help you figure out which End is Up.

  35. Colt Commercial division needs to bring back DA revolver production, I would buy a Python, Diamondback, Trooper and Detective Special as soon as they hit my dealer’s shelf. I am sure I am not alone in this. Just don’t put the lock on them like Smith did.

    1. @Mike S
      I agree 100%!
      With that said…if they moved their production to Southern or Western areas with a labor force and taxes that were conducive to business prospering for the good of the “consumer” and not Union Fat Cats and LAZY Union workers (I use that term loosely) then we may see these iconic and coveted weapons return at a price that more Americans can afford and in turn have items of Legacy to pass on for generations while still be able to enjoy using from time to time as intended. NOT ALL of Colts weapons should be priced as Museum Pieces for “Collectors” only.
      Bring back the Python, Anaconda, Dismondback, etc.
      I’d buy many!!
      Scott

  36. NON SEQUITUR, my mistake, U would be so very right. But I think I got the TIME FOR CHANGE part right. If something doesn’t happen soon, we’re not gonna have a country left to make changes to, Want matter if it’s Colt or anything else.

    1. NON SEQUITUR
      Just a suggestion.. maybe get your nose out of MSNBC and listening to progressive lies and look into the actual facts so you know what your talking about.

  37. The UAW destroyed the auto industry and now Colt. Are there any machinists or assemblers sitting nearby doing nothing but collecting a paycheck like they did in Detroit?

  38. Seriously? A gun mfg who could not make money over the last eight years. That’s a sign of terrible management and their multiple companies is a way to take advantage of government contracts and limit liability. Let them die and take the bankers (private equity) money with them. No bailouts. Buy ruger, Springfield and s&w. Let capitalism and the market speak. The union workers can go find non union jobs in a company with a sustainable future with wages and benefits that are commensurate with ability and market forces. I know that in the Pacific Northwest skilled journeymen machinists are in short supply and earn more than teachers, nurses and other “professionals”. Bail on colt and go west!

  39. Colt has been a government dependent manufacturer for decades. With doves now in control of defense department (Obama/Valerie Jarrett) Colt must now depend on the public to purchase their products. Colt flipped off the public in the past and lived off defense contracts. Maybe their union employees (UAW) can take a pay cut along with reduced work hours to help out at the “closed shop”?

  40. “Equality through portable violence”? What does that have to do with anything? That sounds like something Michael Bloomberg would say. As to Colt’s troubles they put all their eggs into the Government rifle basket. I bought my last Colt (Anaconda) and its a fine gun indeed. After that purchase I started hearing nothing but complaints. It seems to me the age-old story. A company ignored the quality control in the civilian market and paid the price. My Kimber Stainless 1911 is reliable, nice looking and less than a Colt. I also bought a Mil-Spec Springfield 1911 and spent an extra $600 on a Tactical Response Package and is my hands down favorite pistol and was still cheaper than a Colt. Percieved customer value. It’s that simple.

  41. Colt’s companies…Just a Tax thing. Both companies interchange people parts and plants. In my own “company” there are subsidiary companies but we don’t change chairs, just paperhead.

  42. I Sincerely hope Colt will add a larger selection to the commercial market
    I am 72 yrs. old and have carried Colts since I was a small boy of 12yrs.
    and will continue to do so.I guess this is just an old mans way of saying Colt is my icon, and I hope yhey can stay in business.

  43. So true, and anyone who believes that the unions don’t force their membership to do their (leadership’s) will is only fooling themselves. The Machinists union in Cal. has more[power than the gov. of that state. Just ask anyone working for the public employees union and any manufacturing concern in any industry. The grip of crime is rampant and ongoing. The union worker has little choice but to adhere to the union orders or lose their jobs, or worse.

  44. Yes, at first, unions were the organizations that protected the worker. However, as with all orgs., there are those dishonest and greedy men (and women) who strive to take advantage of the power they wield in those unions by not only cheating their members, but power their way into more money sources by unlawful means. Unions are now seen as more harmful to the American worker than helpful. Even devout union members are afraid and frustrated by the union leadership. Bodily harm and death have been prevalent in union business practices in the last 45 years from the union leadership according to the 2009 Uniform FBI Crime Report. Like it or not, that’s the way it is.

    1. Colt has some of the biggest military contracts. Yet are still in trouble. My opinion is that they need to put some more interest in the consumer market.

      All of their lines seem to be so stagnant.Such a low selection choices.

      Why don’t they do something great like bring back the Python.

    2. Colt Defense LLC and New Colt Holding Corp. Merge 7/2013
      Same Hartford buildings and address.. Even same entry door.
      It’s just a tax and liability thing like all our companies and subsidiary’s..

    3. @ Master pisolero.

      Sir, you really must read the entire REPORT of Colt Manufacturing, and not just take “SNIPITS” from it. Colt DefenseLLC., split from Colt’s Manufacturing Company in 2002. And became an “independent” entity. Then, Colt Defense LLC. acquired New Colt Holding Corporation in, 12 July 2013.

      Colt Defense, LLC., contracts with the Military, Law Enforcement, and Private Security Corporations. While, Colt’s Manufacturing contracts with the Civilian Market ONLY. They are two SEPARATE and DISTINCT Companies.

  45. Colts have gotten outrageously expensive. Too expensive for the average gun owner to afford. Therein lies the problem. When Colt regroups, they need to start producing guns that are affordable. Let us plain folks back in, and make it worth our while to buy them again.

  46. I’m sure it has nothing to do with the fact that anything Colt makes you can get from another manufactuerer for half the price… Don’t get me wrong. I’d love a Colt Python or Anaconda but when used Anacondas start about $1300 and functionally the same revolver from Ruger (RedHawk) is $700 to $800 which one would I go with? Well, too late. I bought the Ruger in 2005.

    You’ve got all kinds of newer manufacturers coming into market for much cheaper. And really… what has Colt made other than “equality through portabie violence”.

    I don’t wish the employees of the company to be out of work. I don’t wish the company to go under but if it does, it’s a lumbering dinosaur in an age of mammals. It’s time on this earth is up by its own doing.

  47. I was wondering the same thing. How, by any stretch of the imagination, does the NRA work like a union, as commonly understood? The NRA has members that freely seek it out through a common interest in firearms and to lobby for our interests against an often hostile government. (To petition for redress of grievances. It’s right there in the First Amendment). We members pay our dues without coercion. I’m sure we’d love to go back to the days when the NRA mainly put on shooting competitions, promoted shooting skills, and taught gun safety to our youth. It’s the Leftists that have forced us to spend so much time and money defending a right that is plainly in the Constitution.

    A labor union, on the other hand, while in the beginning used to work to get their members what most have come to understand are basic issues of fairness. Overtime pay, child labor laws, dangerous working conditions. (Thank you, now go away!) The few non- government unions have been either mobbed up or are as close to it to be indistinguishable. Unless it’s a right to work state, membership is mandatory. The union bosses pay themselves exorbitant amounts of money and would rather bankrupt a business than give back any gains when times get tough and that’s the only thing that will keep the doors open. That’s why private sector union membership is at the lowest number since the union movement started. (On the wrong side of history las the Left likes to say.)

    Other than that…yeah…they’re both the same.

  48. Sorry, a bit OT, but I saw a show on the History Channel about the Luger. Apparently the U.S. Government was interested in the Luger for its service pistol, but we’re not thrilled with the 9mm Parabellum and wanted it chambered in .45 ACP. So Luger made two such pistols. One was shot to s**t during testing and the Govt decided to go with the Colt 1911 instead. The test Luger was thrown away and the second one (pristine condition) ended up in private hands. When the show was aired (about 15 years ago, I believe) the pistol was valued at half a million dollars.

  49. Colt firearms have lost the respect of the civilian market. How are they going to get people talking about their weapons besides being over priced? Their single action firearms are the most expensive and their 1911s don’t compare to the quality of the rest of the industry. Their decisions to progess their brand and backers have failed since they decided to quit making their double action revolvers. Why would someone back a dead horse? They have a long road to travel back to being an industry standard. Good luck colt, but I don’t see you coming back from the ashes.

  50. I believe this conversation is spurious. We don’t know whether the labor component in the cost of goods produced by Colt has a significant role in pushing up the prices of goods sold to the point of non-competiveness. But it probably plays a role.

    We also don’t know whether any management decisions or policies had any role in causing Colt’s selling prices to become too high.
    Again, probably so.

    What we do know, is that the tax burden in the north eastern U.S. is crushing and the burden on manufacturers in that region cause their selling prices to be non-competitive,.

    Many firearms manufacturers have moved from the northeast region to more business friendly areas. such as the South or the Northwest. Probably the best bet of all would be Texas. There is a trained and highly skilled work force available, A Peer System that pressures incompetent managers to improve or get out. and a state government that understands the value of viable businesses operating in the state.

    There is a reason why Texas has full employment and has the fastest growing economy in the US……………..Lloyd K

  51. Obviously some of you dont follow the news . By being a member of any union your dues will be spent according to the political whims of the leadership.The rank and file havent been listened to for decades.Wake up and smell obamas roses.

    1. Name one business that ever thrived because of a union! Every business and govt. entity subjected to union labor have all suffered period! Unions where needed at the turn of the 19th century because of greedy owners, now the pendulum has swung to far and business after business is failing because of unions and govt. interference on behalf of unions. Those are facts. Govt. union workers suck up the tax $ of the very people who can’t afford the benefits the union receives…that is a crime in itself. The NRA a ‘union’?? Go back to your bong and leave firearms for sober grown-ups!

    2. NORGE

      The people at the top of the NRA “food chain” isn’t GREEDY and they try to INTERFERE, is that what your telling me!!! Go read a book, your education is sorely lacking.

    3. Excellent point @NON SEQUITOR!
      That’s why I can “Proudly Say” that this American is a Non-NRA gun owner, shooter, hunter and sportsman.

    4. I’m just curious.,if you dislike the NRA, who do you trust to protect your 2nd amendment rights?

    5. SCOTT

      Something I forgot to mention about Singer Sewing Machines, Singer Sewing Machine Lubricating Oil, is a Excellent Alternative to Standard Gun Oil Lubrication.

  52. Steve, you are a fool. regardless of the unions leadership, they can’t force the rank and file to accept anything. We want the company to prosper, this is job security. But we want to profit also. It’s not just a job, it’s our means to support our family.

  53. So you all blame the unions for everything that is wrong with Colt & the entire country. Of course management has nothing to do with Colt’s problems. I had an M16 and a CAR15 in Viet Nam, both well used. I bought my first Colt AR15 long before the ban. I am also a 34 year union member, So not all of us agree.I will keep buying Colts and listening to to your crap anyway.

    1. Rod S –
      Not needed there either any longer. But that’s an ENTIRELY different discussion…American Education System, Teacher’s Unions, etc.

      I guess we can start discussing why we have NBA, NFL Unions as well?

      But let’s not! Ridiculous!!

      Again, let’s get back to Colt shall we.

  54. I’am tired of gun makers going outb of business. We lost the winchester manufacturing comany to a dutch comp. Goddamit stop getting rid of american manufacturing, We have a goddam right to bear arms. when will this goverment stop taking our rights away. Samuel colt made the ffirst single shot pistol the 1856 percussion pistol without a trigger guard.

  55. @david sanchez…
    Wow! You are drinking the Union/Obama Juice!
    You miss the point in this tangent (Unions) that what once was a need, is NO LONGER.
    Keep thanking whom you wish and thanking those Union bosses taking 10%, 15%, 20% or more of your overtime to support their lazy “clubs”.

    As much as this (Union) shop talk can be entertaining…

    Let’s get back to figuring out how to convince Colt to save themselves from extinction shall we!?

  56. I don’t much about Unions but I do know the price of product can go up from there presence in a company, and a Travis said to protect the less productive worker, I do think like others have said it would be nice to see Colt work on making there 1911’s and make them priced where the non Union worker could afford one with out causing a fight with the lady of the house, I don’t have one so I can buy what I want, but I will not go pay twice the price for an item though, Rock Island 1911 is a good looking pistol and my next gun buy is gonna be one, I hear and have read that they are built from the pattern from the Colt 1911 left in the Philippines after the Marines left the Islands in WWII, Colt could make the gun and sell it for less than $400.00 if they would, every one in this country would have one if not two, and not even sell them out of the US…that there would make the company well again…but that just me talkin???

  57. There is no bargaining with a union.They become a cancer for a companys future earnings.Ceos,owners,stockholders,are in the game for profit.Workers are there for a job.Unions in America are there for the buck.The Union in my shop demanded an exorbitant increase.I let 27 men go.I suspect Colt is up against similar thugs with the legal backing of the u.s.government.Colt can not win Its rigged.

  58. You should educate yourselves before speaking bad about unions! First of all with out unions, there would not be any overtime pay, 40 hour work weeks holiday pay and many other beloved benefits you enjoy. Think about it, no cocorporation ever voluntarily gave anything to the workers. This thanksgiving, thank the unions for making corprate America, for giving you this day to share with your family.

    1. Mr. Sanchez,
      Have you ever worked in your life in a non-union environment? I suspect the answer is “NO” if you’re honest. I’ve worked in both environments for over 46 years. I’ve never seen a union environment that ever increased production. In fact, more than half of my career was in a union environment. It always nearly always bred laziness. It always hurt workers above average & rewarded those who are average or below average. I’ve worked on both sides which included being a supervisor about half of those years. Non union shops were always more productive in any shop I worked in, which numbered at least 8 different shops. I could go on for 30 minutes or more sharing the many experiences I’ve had with both sides, but I suspect it’s a total waste of time with someone like you.

      Have a good day!

  59. the problem is that they are a union company , get rid of the union and save a lot of money and get rid of the dead weight that still draw a paycheck.

  60. More and more I read anti union comments. Not just in the firearms industry, but in all industries. It got so bad for Colt in the 70’s and 80’s that they almost had to close their doors, even the Custom Gun shop had big problems. Unions have lost a lot of their devout members due to hardcore threats to support Obama. This is where firearms owners draw the line.

  61. Unions went wrong when the membership let them be co-opted by the left and when they gained enough power to have the government back them. It then became Union and Government against business. Unions in and of themselves are still a good thing. Local Unions provide training, savings, retirement so that the government does not have to.
    Of all of Colt’s problems, this has to be the least of them.

    1. David
      So to put it as plainly as possible. Unions went bad when they got in bed with the democrat party…..

  62. Unions have become what they were originally supposed to eliminate…Large and Secretive entities shrouded in mystery, bureaucracy, etc. The wellbeing (health and finances) were once their priority for the American worker now they are what they once stood against! With today’s immediacy of the media, Internet and social media; there is no need to rely on a Union to create transparency for the American worker.
    Colt and many others need to shed this relationship (burden) and begin again.
    Good Luck Colt and please take the advice of your actual and potential/future customer base.

    1. Colt should travel south to a ‘right to work’ state. Boeing, BMW, Force Protection, and FN understands the advantage of moving to South Carolina.

  63. from the Colt’s I have worked with in the DOD and the time when Colt wouldn’t sell to civilians. I checked them off the list a long time ago.
    Unions was a good thing back in 1900 now they are just ruining our country
    I worked for a union for 5 years all they did was protect lazy people.

  64. I don’t agree with unions and that’s an argument for another day. Suffice it to say and at the risk of redundancy with other posts, that Colt, along with other well known Arms names, have priced themselves out of the market. I’m a retired CNC Programmer and I know the capability of these machines and no matter where your, let’s say, 1911 is made by this machine…the parts are precision (all foreign and domestic parts are interchangeable) and it’s not a matter of the foreign weapons being hammered together with heavy ball-peen hammers, resulting in junk. The 500-700 dollar difference between my Philipine (or whatever) 1911 and the “big name” production, is the factory fitting or tweaking and it is waaaay overpriced, driven up by wages. Also, the idea that if the number two manufacturer is not the famous one…and will try harder. As a 70 year old machinist turned programmer and shooter…I’ve had junk guns and I know the difference. If I were Colt, I’d make guns at a competitive price under a subdivision name, letting it squeak out that they’re really Colts factory seconds or the like…they’d sell like hot-cakes.

  65. This is not about Colt is a union company, but since it was brought up and the door opened, I say this . . . from fact . . .. Unions were established in the early 1900’s only for lessening of work hours from 18 to 120 per day down to 10-12, and that was for OT after 10 (not 8) Also, safe working conditions were the second issue workers had against the companies.

    Now, unions have become so powerful that they can shut down entire industries. They raise prices up to 22% within days with a 5 yr. labor contract. It’s good for those specific workers, but a disaster for the consumer. One good thing . . . the unions have exposed themselves for the evil they are for America. More crime and violence has developed from the union movements than any other source.

    1. Glad you did it Bart…I didn’t want to get into a typical peeing contest with some union thug.

    2. @Bart @timothy Yorgan
      Hey guy’s,
      Your passion and comments lend well their voice to the choir!
      Not to put to fine a point on this discussion or to get to far off topic I thought I’d set early labor history in the US in perspective just a bit it wasn’t always bad. There was the time that Unions were important and protected US workers from abuse, they actually did the job they were intended to do.
      The fist successful labor movement started in the eastern US when the Molly McGuire’s (the fore bearers of the UMW, United Mine Workers) came to the U.S. from Ireland where the labor movement had been crushed at that time (midish 1800’s) by The British mind owners. They tried to organize in the eastern US, Pennsylvania, Kentucky and again failed. As the West was further opened up and gold fields opened and expanded. So did the immigrant Irish Miners follow the need for skilled miners and along with them came the Molly McGuire labor view for workers rights. The deep mines of Cripple Creek Colorado found fertile ground for these views and in the early 1890’s the first Miners union formed, in 1894 there was a labor strike, violent and bloody confrontation where the mine owners tried to break the union. The Colorado governor sent in the State Militia (National Guard) to protect the miners and support the agreements that had been made. One of the few times such an action on a Unions part by a government has taken place. It was the first successful labor strike for workers rights in the US to the best of my knowledge.
      In the 20’s, 30’s, and 40’s they became corrupt, used and abused by organized crime and the Rank and File paid for that corruption while the U.S. government and consumers continued to pay higher and higher prices.
      The 50’s and 60’s saw a change in attitude by the government when it became clear to some in goverment that the government wasn’t getting their cut of the corrupted money flowing thru the Unions. This caused crack downs and deals that continued well into the 90’s
      Fast forward to today . . . Unions are less corrupt, a bit ….. but got used to the wealth of their more corrupt past profits and king making. So they had to figure out ways to maintain the life style and be seen as “clean”. What we ended up with is the Unions that inhabit the manufacturing world today. And …. the consumers and workers are STILL paying for it.
      Which in some part brings us to today. The Management Culture in general in the US is founded on greed, the general manufacturing culture that has lost its place among the worlds other manufacturing cultures and is floundering. The failure of our government to protect its manufacturing base and its consumers since WWII by not supporting its own base and need to modernize, but instead giving it to the LOSERS of the world conflict and the continuing strangle hold that Unions hang on to with a death grip for fear that they will loose their access to the great Golden Egg which was our economy once. . . . which brings us to the condition of companies such as Colt and others that find themselves in positions of failure.

      I agree with those who comment here.
      — Colt needs to move to a friendlier firearms / business environment.
      — Colt needs to get new ownership that cares for the company. (Worker owned, or the like)
      — Colt needs to loose the strangle hold of the vampire Union that is causing damage.
      — Colt need to reestablish its trust with its civilian and LE consumer base.
      — Colt needs to reevaluate its Government contracts and associations with a look at dropping or reworking them to be more conducive to a viable business plan and financial solvency.
      — Colt needs to think about bringing back some/most/all of its highly successful product lines at competitive cost.

      Yup, think that about covers it, did I miss anything? My Union history may not be right on or 100% accurate but it’s pretty damn close. There was a time when Unions were the only thing that stood between American workers being taken advantage of by the Robber Barons. Unions were then overcome with greed and allowed to rot from within. It’s a shame that the American Union worker is getting screwed by the very organizations who should be protecting them and their doing it with the support of our state and federal governments. Such is our current state of affairs.
      It’s been a pleasures to be a part of this far and wide ranging discussion with so many commenters willing to take the time to author their convictions.
      I can only wish that Colt has heard.

    3. I Agree. The rise of the union became necessary when jobs were scarce and companies were essentially monopolies for them. Now, one can sue a major corporation for making a cup of coffee too hot…and win. The union is now what our forefathers feared the government would become if it wasn’t kept in check – a glorified establishment that needs to be addressed in order for many businesses to operate on their own volition, and is nothing short of communism.

      Unions are a colossal burden on the economy, a dangerous threat to our financial structure, and have even prevented our children from getting the best education our tax dollars can afford.

  66. It’s really to bad that because of recent mass shootings, gun legislation, Bloomberg, & The bad economy in general, an ICON like Colt is in danger of GOING AWAY?
    As a Union Sportsman, Life NRA, Life SASS, Life IPSC/USPSA member, that anyone would blame Colts problems on being a UNION COMPANY? UNIONS MADE THE COUNTRY STRONG, GAVE AMERICANS WEEKENDS, OSHA, and many other benefits!!!
    My younger brother owns a gun store in Southern California, & has also had a much slower than normal 3rd & 4th Quarter. The economy in general is REAL BAD!!!
    It would benefit Everyone who LOVES FIREARMS & THE SHOOTING SPORTS TO GO OUT AND BUY COLT PRODUCTS THAT ARE MADE IN AMERICA!!!!
    I carried both Winchester & Colt firearms while a U.S. Marine in Vietnam. One of those companies is now foreign owned! But not COLT. American business needs American Support!!!!
    Semper Fi (ALWAYS FAITHFUL)

  67. Like others on here have said Colt has priced themselves put of the everyday consumers price range, check Colt’s website. As far as 1911s I personally own a Para USA Expert Commander every bit as good in fit, finish, and accuracy as any Colt I have shot. Then there is the rifle side of the coin. I shoot with a large group of guys most of them have the mindset that if your AR is not made by Colt you cant hit anything and I wont last as long, I like to prove them wrong. I own a Core Rifle Systems Tac III with flip up sights which is comparable in price to a Colt and an ATI with polymer lower set up with a Barska 3-9 scope set up for precision shooting, both every bit as good, reliable, and accurate as those guys Colts. Oh by the way did I mention other than the ATI my other weapons came with lifetime warranties at no extra cost. Look up Core’s warranty sometime you will be amazed.

    1. Me too Vic…love 1911’s, I have an Iver Johnson “Thrasher” (officer), a Para Ord P-12, Rock Island Officer and Hi Standard Gov’t and they all cycle like sewing machines and are accurate.

    2. A friend of mine (WWII vet and trivia history buff) also told me another obscure typewriter or other sewing machine company (wish I could remember the name, it wasn’t Remington or Ithaca, might have been Underwood) made 50 1911’s and then the war ended. Those weapons would be worth their weight in gold. The fact that Singer made them is a real “stitch”…sorry, couldn’t help it!

    3. @ Timothy Yorgan.

      I don’t know if its still in the general field manuals of the current military establishment. But, Singer Sewing Machine Lubricating Oil can be used as an Alternative to Standard Military Gun Oil Lubrication…

  68. Colt is an American tradition, along with Winchester, S&W, Remington and Springfield Armory. The problem with Colt now is their management. They make bad decisions. The unions don’t help much either. Remember the fiasco Colt had with labor problems many years ago? Now, it’s management. Can’t we all just get along?

  69. Well there is the problem. Only someone who is desperate to crazy enough to pay top dollar for anything. I find LE6920s here in AZ all the time for sale for under $800 as low as in the $600’s sometimes if you don’t mind being patient and don’t need today. DPMS for sale all the time for $699 and $799. Give the the Colt for the difference in price.

  70. Colt, just like Ruger, was not “bubba” friendly, for way too long. Waiting until hundreds of other companies filled the needs, before getting on the wagon. Maybe y’all should hire more down to earth people!

  71. Really, where are you buying Colts at? You need to find another dealer and stop shopping on Arms List. Or perhaps you are looking at what individuals are trying to sell guns they bought during the scare two years ago when prices tripled and more. They are back to normal now, they are not going to recover what the paid. In any case here is what I have found here in AZ.

    A Colt Mustang 380 sells for about the same as a Wather PPKs

    I’ve seen Colt 1911’s in .22 for under $400

    I’ve seen some Colt 1911’s for $550 and up priced right about what a Springfield Armory, Ruger and others and some from the custom shop for over $1000 – ever priced a Kimber?

    I see BRAND NEW Colt AR-15s under $800 at some dealers priced right there with Spikes, Noveski, Bushmaster and others. Sure there are some rare models that bring more. Why would you spend $700 on some no name AR when you can buy the original for about $100 more.

    So I do not see the 2 to 3 times overpriced guns like you seem to be claiming. If that is what they are charging where you live then perhaps you need to move to a “free” state like AZ, Montana, TX, Wyoming…………………….

    1. yea right. bovine byproducts. there is not a much freer state than Alabama and I have Never seen prices on “we’re so colt and you’re not” firearms in the last 10 years. one of the Top 15 independent retail firearms businesses in America is in my county and those prices you quote (name the retailer?) are not realistic. between the management and the union(s) bleeding the brand most people have said “goodbye, I can find as good Or Better for less”. if colt wants to survive, move out of the northeast and into the south like Remington, Beretta, and a long list of others have done where operating expenses will be reigned in and make the brand ubiquitously price competitive.

  72. Truth is, Colt has been out of the conversation for a while now. No questioning their quality, but when was the last time you heard of Colt introducing something innovative? They simply don’t have consumer awareness, and that is at least partly due to their decision to focus more on MIL and LEO, and leave the consumer for their competitors. Colt is old school, union led, and premium priced – just not much market for that.

    1. Union leaders get it. They don’t care as long as they make the big bucks at worker’s expense. Do unions protect workers? ask the unemployed union aerospace workers at the former AA maintenance hangar at Alliance Ft. Worth…

  73. Every time I have tried to order a new Ruger, I have been told that there is a waiting list of several months to a year, depending on the model. If Ruger can sell them as fast as they make them, then something doesn’t make sense….

  74. It’s sad, but when a working guy can buy a comparable Ruger for hundreds less…. Colt needs to do something about whatever is driving their prices. They make a fine product, and always have, and could probably get away with maybe one or two hundred above the competition, but not five or six hundred.

  75. The free markets correct themselves and play no favorites. If you price yourself out of the market……..you will leave the market. There are many more firearms companies out there now than when Colt was founded. There are plenty of other quality, well made firearms out there that don’t demand the price tag Colt does. It looks like Colt’s management is failing to recognize the times.

    1. Colt’s 1st move ought to be to get out of the high-cost state of CT.
      Granted, there are a multitude of new companies which have come (and gone) since Colt’s inception. But, there should be no reason Colt can’t evolve with the industry. A lower cost state would provide for more market-friendly pricing.

  76. There problem is they are Union! They need to break after from that so there price points of there weapons can come in line with other gun manufactures. I love Colts but when I can buy a AR-15 that shoots awesome for as little as $500-600 dollars and not $ 1300 well you get the picture. WE DON”T NEED ANOTHER GOVERNMENT BAILOUT! I would rather see Colt get gobbled up by other manufactures and my the best manufacture win.

  77. I think the price point of Colt firearms is the problem. You will pay 2 to 3 times as much for a weapon as you would from another manufacturer. They are quality through and through, but most purchasers of firearms today are looking for home protection, not collectibility .

    1. I agree Tom T. The price of a Colt has gone through the ceiling. Ordinary low-mid income folks can’t afford one anymore..

    1. Goodbye Colt,
      It’s been fun but with other companies constantly striving for innovation that increases performance and decreases cost, you have achieved your goal of making all colt firearms collectables. Since you won’t be producing them much longer be sure to include a thank you note the the union employees who helped over price your guns anddrive you out of

  78. Wait……..The most robust sales of firearms in history and a gun company is going belly-up ? This smells to high Heaven !

  79. To many CEO s getting millions of dollars and bonus money. Plus the unions are now killing our country not helping . They want there hands in the pot like the government does . Not right time to reform them too ,yupp

  80. Colt needs to bring back the Python, Anaconda, Diamondback, & the Peacemaker .22 revolvers. I know they are expensive to produce but if the quality is there the gun enthusiast would buy them. I know I would & a lot of other people who would.

    1. Amen Brother…when Colt decided to drop most of their handguns years ago, it started the ball to the demise of a great company. The bean counters were wrong…when they reorganized to become the new an L.L.C., also, the prices are out of reach for many middle income consumers. Look at the prices for the older Colt’s built years ago…the classics. The writing is on the wall, the days are counting down, Samuel Colt would be shocked and very disappointed with the current leadership of our country and the company. R.I.P. Colt…!!!

  81. Colt people. I would think that Texas tax payers might help bail you out if you move to texas. Leave all that Union mess there and com on down to texas. Most Texans love Colt weapons.

  82. It’s sad that Colt is going to shut down period. Union or not is very shallow in my opinion to criticize a legend gun mfgr for hard times. Be the shark and bit a little at a time and redicule to its demise and for what reason? It takes a lot of work to run a company with many, many problems and its easy to scrutinize any or all of it’s problems. Why don’t we try to buy all american products and fight the government for cheaper taxes and make an attemp to improve our economy and country. Keep buying better cars, clothes, firearms, etc. from out of country and eventually those problems will end up in your own back yard. No jobs, no money, no control. What comes around – Goes around, and being part of the solution is better than being part of the problem. Again, buy american on everything.

    1. Core Rifle Systems one of which I own, make all their parts themselves in house in America by veterans. Doesn’t get more American than that. I agree buy American!

  83. It appears Colt’s Firearms Manufacturing Company, in $308-Millions USD. in debt and have too come up with $10.9-Million USD. Or they lose their Standard and Poor’s credit rating…

  84. Brand names only deserve to be preserved when the products back up the reputation. It takes quality *and* value. I have one Colt product, an LE6920 that is nice but I paid top dollar for it and it doesn’t shoot any better or more reliably than my DPMS model that cost $400 less and came with extra mag and ammo. I passed on a Colt 1911 because they were outrageously priced and there were great models available from so many other gunmakers.

    Great brands pass away when they are run into the ground by bad management or parasitic unions. It is sad to see them go, but I welcome the opportunity for new companies to deliver excellent products at reasonable prices.

  85. 1. Colt files bankruptcy.
    2. The government (China) buys them out.
    3. The assets are sold (China gets the money and the property)
    4. There is one less company in America to buy firearms from.
    Who’s next….

  86. Colt sadly put themselves in a bad position just as the automakers did. Over inflated prices for their product when just as good and better in some cases products came on the scene. And yep.. poor poor poor care for the customer after the sale. Just shows the suits that run companies are out of touch with their customer base. Name alone is not worth paying several hundreds of dollars more for a product when the other companies put out quality product and cost less.

  87. Union were never any good for the company but they were great for the working man. The greed of the company CEOs is what’s hurting this country.

  88. The idea that we should not buy Colt products because of the nasty political climate in Connecticut is way beyond shortsighted. Punishing Colt for the hysteria in Commecticut punishes Colt, not the state and its politicians, I firmly believe they should relocate to a friendlier environment (making sure to take the Golden Dome with them). Withholding money from the company just makes it more difficult to make the move. They ought to consider Wyoming — very business friendly, low tax rates, no income tax, low crime, excellent access to rail, interstate and air transportation. Most of all, it is a place that appreciates Col. Colt’s products. Our political types are all supporters of the Second Amendment. Magpul made the move. Others did too.

    Please don’t punish Colt for the misdeeds and ignorance of others.

  89. I did not know Colt was a union shop. But their customer service stinks, as does warranty, and new side by side brand comparison. I shall not shed a tear. RS

  90. We just all have to remember, the bail-out money would come from CHINA. In no way do I want to offend anyone, but I think that unions have reached the point to where they are no longer good for companies. They have the Obama mentality, that they know best, U don’t. At this point and time we really do need hope & a big CHANGE.

  91. Damn! I didn’t even know they were in trouble. But I have an AR-15 I bought coming to my local FFL any day now. Well I did my part to help out a little bit I guess. Can’t wait to get it! First one I will shoot since I was in the Army 20+ years ago.

  92. Hey guys this may sound harsh but I am 50 yrs old and it seems that for almost my whole life Colt has been in trouble and if it were not for the Fed. Govt. they would have been gone a long time ago! I have owned a Colt Python in my life and that is the only Colt product ever, in my eyes they have already been gone for a very long time, I would really miss the fact that we lost a very historic gun MFG in the US, but as far as buying their products, I never have and dont ever plan on buying a colt firearm, there are lots of better ones out there!

    1. Years ago I bought a new Python with the “hand honed action” that was so rough I had to give it to a smith to clean up! I bought a new Gold Cup that would double with every shot. I had to have a smith fix that! I think their quality control went out in the 1970’s!

  93. Colt should start making good wheel guns again. I know I’ve been shooting mine more and more. I’d acquired so many polymer semi-autos in the last few years I’d forgotten how much fun I have shooting revolvers. Revive the Python and the Police Positive. Maybe come up with a good competitive line of striker fired semi-autos. Give the 1911’s a rest for a while. Give everybody time to get rid of all the bad recent memories. I’m down to two Colts. The .22 and the Anaconda. I had a Colt King Cobra 6″ barrel that I sold. I wish I had it back. It was a nice gun.

  94. Dave Dolbee,

    Your little jab “Of course, Colt is a union shop and falls under the United Auto Workers (UAW) so President Obama could step in and offer a government bailout” just showcases your stupidity. Be sure and get some of those tactical knee pads to go with your Colt 1911.

  95. On the bright side, if the company goes belly-up, Colt firearm values will soar. Well, at least the good ones. Here’s to another good investment. 😉

    1. If Colt goes out of business it means our way of protecting ourselves will also go by the wayside. Obama is a snake hes not telling main stream what hes doing about shutting down the industry that is criminal. You would think our government will protect us. Well got some news for you this is our government. Its time for you smarter people to tell the dumb ones whats going on.

  96. I’ve got a Colt Combat Commander I bought new in 1979. It has NEVER worked properly even though it has been massage by four pistolsmiths. The last was ready to cry until I told him about the others. I have much more money in trying to make it work than it costs! Fewer than 1K rounds through the gun in all these years. So sad! Can’t trust it for EDC CCW piece and bet my life on the thing! With one in the chamber, I can rely on that single shot. I know Colt has done and can do far better.

  97. I’m fishing for information which one or more of you may have.

    It is my understanding that when Colt shut down its Pistol lines that the associated machining equipment was sold off and is no longer an asset of Colts. I don’t think that they have sold out their designs for any of there pistoles but the manufacturing equipment is mostly gone.

    Can anyone confirm or disprove this senerio as either fact or fiction. If this isn’t true where is this equipment? If true, where did it go?

    Anyone??

  98. This would be very sad. The creator of the modern handgun, gone. I am a cop in Vegas and I am a loyal colt owner. I carry a colt ar-15 and carry a Colt gold cup 1911 as my duty weapon. It’s heavy and bulky but when a suspect sees me whip that beautiful 1911 out they just stand and freeze. I trust my life with colt. They have been building the 1911 for over 100 years, you can’t put a price on that!

  99. Given they have a manufacturing facility it’s unlikely all the machines and building will be allowed to rot.
    If the Colt of old closes its doors, a new leaner Company could arise.
    I’d suggest poor management, marketing, and innovation is at cause.

  100. It’s not that simple as I’m sure you know and have chosen sarcasm instead of reason. There are numerous reasons when any company like Colt goes upside down, rarely is there only one. Whether the prices charged for Colt firearms are too high or not is determined by the marketplace. What is determined by labor and management is whether the price the market allows provides for a reasonable profit given the cost of overhead. By reducing capital costs as well as taxes, labor and other overhead costs, companies give themselves the opportunity to invest in the future and remain relevant.
    Any business owner or CPA knows there are two functional elements to survival; one is income generation and the other is overhead generation. When the forces that spend income but create no direct income, like maintenance, taxes, fixed and semi fixed operating costs not connected to production plus administrative personnel costs, for example, exceed that level whereby the difference between income and overhead is too small to provide modernization and other necessary investments, then no business has much of a future.
    Right to work states are but one element that allow labor to compete rather than to function like an entitlement, sitting on top of all else like a fat man on a skinny one, squeezing the breath out of him. Debt service can do the same and when debt service comes as Peter robbing Paul rather than facilitating growth, it is but bad after good. Putting most of its eggs in the military basket without a continuous development of new markets via new products, such as Ruger, Smith and Wesson have done means they are marching in place while overhead goes up disproportionately to revenue until the ship capsizes. Colt has missed many opportunities and more than once as seen by recalling their numerous attempts in the last three decades to stave off the grim reaper pounding on the door. This time let’s hope Colt management and its investors make good and prudent decisions that allow them to continue as an icon of American firearms manufacturing and eventually be able to afford to celebrate their wonderful history. History alone, while important won’t provide the means necessary to conquer the forces of competition and survive the future.

    1. Very well said, I appreciated your comments. There are a number of issues that Colt has faced over time. Basically, however, the management of Colt made some very bad strategic decisions. They were one of the best, but they rode the reputation without doing the work to keep it. I hope that changes on many levels and they succeed, but they have a lot of work to do. They shouldn’t rely on a temporary reprieve for the long term solution. Good luck to them. They really are an American icon.

    2. As I understand it Colt quit selling AR-15 platforms to civilians. So now even Smith and Wesson sells AR-15 platforms. Smith and Wesson also sells 1911’s as do many other manufacturers. People are buying droves of AR-15’s and 1911’s but not those made by Colt. Even the military is buying M-4’s from FN Hertsel. The market is good, but Colt is out of it.

  101. Colt firearms are over priced. That is why they are not doing good. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out.

  102. I’d almost rather buy a gun from a Chinese company than a Connecticut company after seeing what that state has done with totally illogical gun control laws and draconian registration requirements that violate the 2nd amendment in my humble opinion. I considered Colt for two of my last buys because of their reputation but went with guns made outside the loopy NE to show support for sensible state governments. I even look at other goods to see if they were made outside the Left belt states, one way to show our support for states that respect our rights by supporting their economies, however little my contribution may make.

    1. So you would rather buy a gun from China, a country that would rather see our country in flames than prosper? All because an iconic gun maker like Colt that has been in CT forever is based in a state full of liberal gun grabbers? It’s not Colts fault, there was a time when CT was a state of patriots. The voters of that state are the ones responsible for the laws passed there and they seem quite happy with things as they are. As for Colt, a company that large can’t just pack up bags and move to a friendlier state like a smaller company like PTR or Magpul. Are Colt firearms overpriced? Perhaps but so is just about every car made today. Personally I would put my Colt AR up against any off brand AR any day of the week. My Colt 1911 has a serial number of 109,XXX and was built in 1911. Now over 100 years later it functions and looks as good as it did in 1911. If Colt goes under we can blame it on people like you who didn’t support them for all the WRONG reasons.

  103. Colt has made, and continues to make, some of the finest rifles and hand guns on the market for almost 200 of years. However, they seemed to have forgotten how to promote and market their products. In 2011, Colt failed to update and then capitalize on the iconic 1911. If you have a better mouse trap, the world will not beat a path to your door, unless you aggressively advertise and price the product correctly.

  104. God Bless Colt and what they have done for Americans. They should, without delay, move to a business-friendly State. Texas comes to mind immediately but I defer to any of my brothers that know of better States to move-to. I bought 2 Colt M4 carbines this year. Unbelievable weapon! I have never enjoyed shooting any rifle more than these. My wife even shot 3 inch groups at 25 meters with iron sights, her first time shooting ANY rifle. Colt has a rich heritage in America. Get out of the union-forced labor States and go somewhere they can flourish. I am a retired Union worker and KNOW how important Unions have been in our history. Keep our manufacturers alive for God’s sake. Save your flames for someone that needs it. GO COLT!!!

  105. Let them go bankrupt, and restructure WITHOUT the blood sucking UAW, in a freedom to work state. The only reason they can’t make a profit is their overhead. Their location and their union labor force sees to that.

  106. First thing first-Colt MUST leave Connecticut.The restrictive political war on business REQUIRES them to relocate.Come down to North Carolina,Tenn. etc. We would welcome youall.Next,Colt might want to co-develop and/or produce a different weapon design that would be market/misson specific.thanks for hanging in there! Steve 73 IDF

  107. Tragic to see such an ICONIC brand struggle. However, it’s systematic of the bigger issue… WHERE IS AMERICAN ARMS INOVATION. It’s fine that we love creating NEW ways to re-build 100 year old pistols and 40 year old rifles, but it KILLS me that so many of the exciting NEW arm designs come from over seas. Why does our military need to buy SCAR rifles from a Belgian company, pistols from Italian and German companies, … I want our troops to have the BEST arms available, but I wish they were being thought up HERE.

    1. Our military bought Italian pistols in return for the Italians buying American Huey helicopters, for one reason.

  108. I have boughten over 100 Colt SAAs, several Colt shotguns, 3 Colt “57 rifles, pythons, anacondas, detectives,1903s,Navy 51s and 1860 Armys,as well as Ar 15s because since WWII and Viet Nam, Colt has been my firearm of choice. Play more on Colt’s wonderful history. The Anaconda is one of the best hunting guns ever made. As a peace officer, I carried a Colt Python for 20 years until a Commander replaced it for wear under a suit jacket. Colt produces and has produced some of the finest guns on this planet.

  109. somebody in the higher ups not god but he thinks is he should be gone. at one time he was one of the best gun sails man for years. if he was out of here i might be able to find a three round burst for my rifle

  110. I’ve read articles for years about how Colt has ignored its civilian customers, and how it was surprising it had stayed in business for as long as it has. If Colt could bring back the SAA as the New Frontier, why not bring back the Python, the best double-action revolver ever made (and I’m a S&W guy!)? I’d buy at least a 4″ and a 6″, if I could get that wonderful Royal blue finish! I know everyone says Colt couldn’t make a profit for what it would cost to make them, but if the New Frontier sells at more than $1,500, I’d pay that much or more for a Python.

    1. Leadoot and others…here’s part of the problem with Colt. Until they move out of the NE and can get into an area of the United States that can have labor to produce products at a reasonable (Non-Union Influenced) rate then we won’t see “Consumer Friendly” pricing and the ability for Colt to make a profit. I love the Python and Anaconda revolvers (as do so many) but most Americans can NOT handle the price tag for such a weapon. Colt needs to be able to produce the same quality weapons (Python or Anaconda) at a price for consumer’s/Civilians that is below the $1000 mark. I agree with Leadoot that I would pay $1500 for the Python or Anaconda too but that’s near impossible any longer. I would also love to see the 45 Long Colt Anaconda produced again!!
      I hope you not only survive Colt but come back and THRIVE!

  111. Dave grew up in Allegheny….. Not Alleghany.. And only people from Butler misspell Allegheny which makes me suspect… ha

  112. The Colt Anaconda in ,44 mag.with an 8″ barrel is the Best .44mag revolover made in my opinion. It’s the most accurate and reliable that I have used ,and I have used most of them .I used the Colt Anaconda in a contest using factory sights ,shooting offhand standing at 100 yards, and put four out of six holes within an 8″ target. No one else came close ,and I can honestly say it was the Colt gun because I tried my own Ruger Super Redhawk .44.mag with 9.5″ barrel and was no better than anyone else.I practice at home with my Colt Anaconda shooting aerosol cans at 100 yards. factory sights yes it’s true! You can’t get any better than a COLT in my opinion!!!

    1. Ive own a Python, King Cobra, and an Anaconda in .44……i have an Aimpoint on it right now, have used it to hunt for years. Very accurate and works excellent. I will never part with it, it will go to my heirs

  113. Can’t live on the government teet forever and all the while not giving the public what they wanted and keeping up with the industry. 4 years to late bringing back the 380! No polymer pistol. No Python or a 8 round 357. Good to see them working with other companies for the 1911/22 and 22 AR

  114. I would like to see Colt make a 1911 that anyone could afford, with the price of say 300.00 or less dollars you know that it could be done, and there company would be back on top in no time,, make it just like the combat 1911, they probley got enough parts now to make a bunch…it would be like the M-1 Grand every x-military would have one if the price was made to where we all could, well that’s all I got…

    1. Right Roger. But, everyone wants guns with bells and whistles. I am like you – give me a plain government model 1911 A1 from Colt and I am OK. But, who would buy one but you and I and a couple other people? All my guns are field grade and made to just do the work I ask them to do.

  115. if they would produce the products that Americans want, like the classic revolvers and AR’s instead of just concentrating on military contracts, they would be in better shape. Also they need to move to a free state that is business friendly and doesn’t want to ban their products. How are the companies who market to the American citizens doing? maybe if they go broke some American gun manufacturer who knows what they are doing can buy them up.

  116. Colt has been for years, totally focused on government contracts and has limited customer support and firearms availability to us the civilian market. I prefer colt AR style rifles over any other manufacturer for personal reasons, and have always had a weakness for the colt single six. I hope things work out for Colt; however, they must pay the piper since they have been solely a government supported company. Just think of how well they would be financially if they had been a more civilian focused organization! Good luck Colt,,, please do not sell out to China or Japan!

    1. Treetop, Absolutely correct. Just as any individual that relies on our government will eventually pay the piper, so will the once proud companies that make this choice. The people are dependable, our government is not. I’ll never accept anything from our government.

  117. @ Spy Guy.

    The random parts that Eli Whitney created too impress the government in building a completed firing lock for a flint lock, was Rigged. Eli, marked the parts, and one of the judges, was Eli friend. He assembled the complete firing lock from the “Marked Parts”. On visual inspection, all the parts looked the same. But, if you tried putting them together, only the “Marked Ones” fit, the other were pure “Window Dressing”. Too stage and fake a test.

    1. I would definitely love to own another Python. Sold mine 25+ years ago, and have regretted it ever since.

    1. Lets here it for Tn…..we have recemtly brought big manufacturers to the state and are v3ry gun friendly, screw.the yankee bastards…..break the union and make guns for the people

  118. Texas is waiting for Colt to leave the People’s Republik of Taxachussetts and move to the last bastion of free men in America. The Great State of Texas welcomes Colt to Texas. Y’all come on down!!

    1. @Marine Gunner
      Hey MG,
      I’m not sure it’s the “last bastion of free men in America” but it’s certenly the biggest in the lower 48!

  119. Colt need’s to sit up and pay attention to what their customer’s are saying,and then do something about it! If they dont then they may drift off into the sunset like another American company,Indian motorcycle’s!

  120. Colt Firearms Co. is welcomed in Texas!
    Pack all of your toys and come to the Great State of Texas and come here to build a new legendary line of weaponsand regain the the alegang that is COLT !!!

  121. Pete, that is a very thoughtful and direct posting that I happen to agree with. I just purchased a MP Shield in .40 cal as a primary concealed carry weapon and know several people who have one.
    I also support Colt in terms of your suggestions, but as stated, there has to be a pro-growth management willing to do the things necessary for support and change.
    My experience with union “anything” is that there is an adversarial relationship, regardless of a small negative or a large one that hampers any company. I believe for Colt to do what they need to do in order to lead comes from extreme pride from within. Rather than a union shop, another idea is to make Colt an employee owned company where a culture of deep price and commitment to the brand is fostered. I wish I could take this company over and do what I know is right for the stockholders, but I’ve never run a company that large and its not even realistic to hope. But I’m certain there are plenty of people out there with vision and corporate horsepower that could create a very special company.
    There are many examples of visionary leadership in the history of the United States. Colt needs to be a present day story.

  122. I would like to mirror some of the other comments. Move!! Oklahoma would love to have a gun company here we hunt. carry and love our guns and we are a right to work state so you can shake the unions if you want too. Living here is a lot cheaper and interstate 35 and 40 cross the middle of the state talk about easy trucking of products and I do love my colts

    1. If Colt wants to show that they are a gun company that is still dedicated to the 2nd Amendment which helps keep them in business, then I think moving to a “gun state,” like Arizona, Oklahoma, or the like would be a good first step. Political Correctness as they have been practicing it is no longer a popular position. I vote they move out of the Northeast and reach out to the real gun market. Us. (or is that U.S.?)

  123. My impression of Colt is that it is a company of lawyers living off the Colt symbol and mystique. They are always late to the table. When the market was saturated with Smith and Wesson,Dan Wesson and Ruger Redhawk 44 mags they came out with the mediocre Anaconda. If Ruger and S and W can prosper, so should Colt. Get some quality engineers like H and K and SIG, shake off the union like a dog shaking off fleas, move out of gun hating liberal yankee land and re-locate to the sunny south or west. Come out with a new re-engineered Colt Lighting or Thunderer in DA. How about a Trooper in 44 special or 41 Mag? Americans would love to see Colt rebound, but I’m not sure their management cares to do more than draw a salary and bleed the company dry.

  124. While in the military I liked the powder coated M16 thru M16A2 its a much better finish than what Bushmaster, Rock River Arms and DPMs makes. The AR platform is more accessible now and the prices are dropping but I’m not “all in” for the Polymer lowers. I still like the Aluminum lowers. Colt is also based in the north so prices are through the roof up there. In my opinion, they would do better with a plant in the South. Just my opinion.

  125. HELLO?? COLT??? Are you there, are you listening???

    I have been following this blog and the thread comments as well as participating in the comments since it was posted.
    A number of things struck me as defining the general feelings in the comments. Please correct me if I’m wrong or miss a major point or simply add your thoughts to this thread.

    1) Everybody commenting seems pretty much feed up with Colt Management and what they have allowed the state of the company to digress to.
    2) Everyone seems to agree on one level or another that Colt is an important part of American firearms history and the loss of the company would be a shame but not of any great impact to the industry.
    3) I get the general feeling that most feel that the product line is inferior or mediocre as they stack up to other current manufactures products on the market today. Most noted comments concerning Colts failure either actual or perceived have been (in no particular order): to high a cost for current products, poor product workmanship, poor quality control, very poor after sale support, requires serious work to improve operation and consistent operation, bad upper management, union shop, loss of civilian support due to focus on Government only contracts, termination of successful product lines of pistols, on the brink of financial failure for over a decade, there are also a number of suggestions that the company was aware that they were sending sub standard rifles into combat in Vietnam Nam,
    4) The commenters also see fault in that once again Colt has been pulled back from the brink of implosion and given a reprieve. The feeling seems to be that even though it would be a loss to the gun culture of the nation in its current state it would be best that it just fade into that history.
    5) There have been a number of suggestions that are seen or perceived by those commenting to be possible solutions for Colt to regain their prominence in the industry and reestablish trust with its civilian client base. They suggest but are not limited to: production of .22 cal ammunition and increased production of .22 cal firearms, bringing back some of the no longer produced products lines such as the Python, stop or limit production if the M16/M4 platforms, perhaps focus on high quality replacement and aftermarket parts and kits, get rid of the Union if indeed the are causing part of this failure, higher management change maybe find a buyer who is actually interested in making Colt great again, move to a gun friendly/Right to Work state

    Ok, these are just a few of the points I picked out that seemed to have been mentioned at least several times.
    With all this apparent interest in Colt, and if you took the time to write a comment it is considered “interest in the Blog subject”, I was wondering . . . .

    HELLO!!! Is anyone from Colt out there and aware of this interest from their public, positive and negative that apparently is out there where they are concerned????
    I’d like to invite a representative of COLT to maybe chime in here. Hello?? Anybody there?

    Dear Colt,
    We would like to have a real dialog, not interested in the “party” line as we are already aware of that and bring a rather smart and informed community don’t nee any more hot air blown in our direction, but an honest laying out of the facts, solutions and the path into the future that Colt is intent on presuming.

    HELLO??? COLT?? Are you there?

    Well, it was worth a shot. Maybe I will call the PR department tomorrow and tell them about the blog here. I wonder if they answer the phone if it’s not a Government Agency Number calling?

    1. Pete,

      Pretty much sums it up. Calling the PR department is probably the only way to get their attention, although many companies now, through data-mining monitor these blogs and internet information to keep track of what is being said about them, I’m not sure Colt does. I hope they are listening. I would like to see them succeed but just as Sam Colt did early on, went bankrupt, got a real chance from a someone in need (para-government) and then got help from Eli Whitney Jr. to figure out the way to get it done. Colt needs to figure out that the government is no longer fully sustaining to their future and pay attention to those of us who are (and get into the international markets), and they need to get someone in management who can help them transition to a modern and competitive manufacturing process. Hand made is good but it don’t make the numbers.

    2. Can’t fault good logic. Yours, . . . is very good. Thanks for commenting and speaking your opinion. I will continue to look for your comments.
      Pete sends …

  126. No surprise that the union would suck the life out of a company. Unfortunately these parasites aren’t smart enough to understand that they will kill the host, a host that pays their bills. Corrupt unions and democrats will be the end of this great republic. The only good news is the end of the republic will mean the end of corrupt unions and their entitled members along with the end of entitled democrats. I wish Colt the best of luck but I will never buy a product made through Union labor. Well, I might consider buying a new Python but the price would need to be realistic, which cannot be achieved by utilizing Union labor. Right to Work or go bankrupt!

  127. A bailout is nothing more than an excuse to continue in the same manner that got them into trouble in the first place.
    Colt wasted dozens of opportunities through arrogance and stubbornness.

  128. Colt didn’t get government contracts for the replacement for the 1911 and several of the rifles the US bought from FN, as they either didn’t submit anything that met specs, didn’t submit any entry at all or the ones they did submit couldn’t pass the tests. They were stuck in the mud with the same old thinking, same old equipment and no serious effort to meet what the RFPs wanted. They had an attitude that the government should come to them. The US has never had an absolute lock on great engineering and quality production any more than anyone else has. I’d prefer to see our military with US made everything but US firms don’t always make competitive products.

  129. thats what wrong with this country now days.we rely on to much foran parts that are not made in the good old USA. think about it ?colt is a legend in the firearm industry made in america for america just saying.

  130. If they would lower prices they would sell more guns Ruger and S&W is just as good well made gun, lower ur prices it’s just a name.

  131. The fat cat head of Colt on it’s withdrawl from civilian handgun market said in words to the effect “civilian market be damned, we are a defense contractor’ This old civilian can’t help his none purchase of Colt products..

  132. If Colt goes on the auction block, maybe Apple can snap them up??

    “Siri, shoot bad guy and record video whilst doing so.”

    How cool would that be? 😉

    1. Think your on the right track but it shoul go further. An APP called “SkyShot” works on OS and Windows platforms. So you take your high end ROV Drone mount you electronicly fired Colt next to the camera/sighting system with voice controlled software and put it on the market . Wonder what the laws would cover that inovation??

    2. @ Pete in Alaska.

      Your wrong, SkyShot is for EOV’s, NOT ROV’s. It’s Skydiver’s Helmet Mounted Camera System, so you can record you skydiving adventures. Sorry, Pay. But, i just have too, LOL…

    3. @MyKarminLife.

      The Colt’s system your referring to is called SWORD, and it’s ONLY available on Android Smartphone Systems. Another LOL Moment, Sorry, Pete…

  133. The AR-15 market is saturated with rifles that are a better value than Colt. Why they aren’t making the Python and anaconda is are beyond me. They would be money makers.

    1. Had Colt packed up and mover to a gun friendly state they would be better off. Many of us will not buy from anyone in a gun “unfriendly” state .. regardless of quality or reputation.
      Also cold has not had any new innovations like the rest of the makers- they have fallen behind just like the US auto industry.

    2. Sorry for the typos. Any company sitting on their hands waiting for a government contract is also just waiting for death. The Military m-16 is a 40 plus old lady and is being replaced all over the world. Although the 16 is tried and true the position of Main battle rifle is being invaded by just so many “special purpose weapons” it has fallen to the position of last choice or “also have”.

  134. Seriously? The NRA is suppossed to bail out failing businesses?
    The NRA stands for and supports the 2nd amendment, not failing businesses.
    However, I’m sure Obama would agree with you since he doesn’t care for self sufficient enterprise either.

    1. David: So the NRA is into the “corrupt” politician business, and not saving the “GUN” industries business. Now thing are making sense.

  135. It’s not the responsiblity of anyone, including the NRA, to bail out a gun manufacturer. The manufactures have the responsibility to produce a quality product that is desired by the shooters in a price range that fits the targeted consumer. Period… If Colt can’t do this, then the economic Darwinian forces will rule and they will fade into history. Hopefully, another American company will fill the gap.

  136. I really liked the comment by Mike S. You summed up my feelings about the M-16 and it’s problems and short comings. Yet the buying public is still buying these weapons like never before. Yes I know that some of the current AR-15 are much improved over the old M-16, if you are willing to shell out two or three thousand dollars. That said, the bullet is too small to be used for deer hunting, that should tell you something. Colt should design a simple, reliable, and affordable semi-auto combat rifle in a larger caliber. We need this to defend our homes and our Country. Evidently those gun people over in Iss-real know this to be the truth.

  137. The makers of the M-16 during the Vietnam War told the Pentagon that these weapons needed chrome linings in the chambers and barrels in order to function reliably. The bean counters at the Pentagon were not willing to pay for this. Many soldiers lost their lives when their M-16 jammed. I blame both the Pentagon and the gun makers for this, as both knew they were sending a problem weapon to our soldiers. This current problem could be their bad Karma catching up with them.

  138. It might be best if Colt did go out of business. Several manufacturers of 1911s and ARs have already equaled their product in quality. If they can’t fly and can’t move or get rid of the Union that is draining them then we might better off without them. And I still have three of their guns that are excellent. I am not anti-Colt. But I am anti-union and anti-bailout and I won’t argue about it…

  139. I cant say enough times that I and my Wife would LOVE to own a Colt , or for that matter a Ruger or any other BIG mane guns BUT there comes a time that you simply have to put COST into the equation . We carry guns that shoot just as good and are more then HALF the cost , Sorry BUT Union workers have ruined the country and trust me I used to be Union !!!!
    Most of my union dues went to some ones pocket and had no union leadership , OH and BTW I was UAW !!!

  140. Colt should have moved out of the northeast decades ago. They should have set up all operations in a right-to-work state and fired their fat-cat executives. If they go extinct, too sad. They brought it on themselves.

    1. Don’t forget us folks up here in New Hampshire, we are in the northeast, and are the last bastion of sanity up here. Ruger and Sig both manufacture guns it the “Live Free or Die” state. It’s a shame we are surrounded by anti-gun states.

  141. Maybe if or government wasn’t equipping our military with Italian, German and Belgian made guns Colt wouldn’t have the problems they do.

    1. Amen to that.

      Thee was once a belief that Made in America was the tag line to all things of quality. During WWII people scrimped, rationed and saved to make sure our troops (and out government) got the best in material and manpower. Steel pennies, shell casing coins, ration books. . . . it was all part of insuring Made in America was at the top of the pile.

      Now it’s cheaper to just import. Everyone needs to remember – the M-1, the M-16 and the 1911 were American inventions. Just because it’s cheaper to import knockoffs doesn’t make it better for everyone.

      I feel for Samuel Colt . . . he must be twisting in his grave about now.

    2. @ Mr Ruger.

      I think the reason they went to a foreign manufacturer is. Because, since 2007, Colt’s has LOST every Military Arms Shoot-Off Competition…

    3. Yeah I know but it still pisses me off that American troops are equipped with guns we didn’t build. Yeah can’t tell me that there isn’t an American Mfg capable of building something better then Beretta.
      To me it’s as bad as having to hitching a ride with the Russians to get into space.

  142. All Colt owners of all calibers should vote with their dollars
    to keep Colt in business ! I have a 1927, .380 modeled
    on the 1911.45. It’s all nickel plated but looks like
    faint chrome. Yes..it’s a “belly gun” but will perforate
    anything inside of 30yds. I also have the 1911 standard
    USMC issue .45. COLT MUST BE SAVED…need
    I rant and rave why ?

  143. This makes how many times in the last thirty +years that Colt has been in very serious trouble? How many chances have they had to make the changes needed to be competitive?
    How many opportunities have they had to move to a lower tax, right to work state? How many chances have they had to introduce new products the marketplace wants? How many chances have they had to diversify their product line so they didn’t have to live or die by their military contracts?
    If they couldn’t get out from under and make the changes necessary in the pro-gun explosion since 2008, I doubt they are capable of making the decisions needed to survive.
    Colt management, bondholders, shareholders, employees, etc., have to accept responsibility for refusing change and demanding none that results in their current crisis.
    Were I an investor, banker or other party involved in the current mess I would think three times about further cooperation without demanding proof of commitment to change. Move out of union controlled, high tax New England like so many others have already done would be one that I would have to explore hard before I’d sink any more money into them. I like Colt and I appreciate tradition and loyalty, but not to demise of the company which benefits no one.

  144. I have to agree with one of the above. Colt needs to make firearms that are exceptional. Not just run of the mill. Their products are not of the quality they once were. That being said, one of my favorite firearms is the Colt gold cup 1911. I would hate to see them go.
    Also we all know that the unions are to blame for some of Americas companies going under. Caving in to back loaded contracts and ridiculous terms has taken some great companies down. It’s not the workers fault, they just show up and work. Most take pride in their work. But the unions have hamstrung some of our best and oldest companies with absurd labor contracts.

  145. Colt hurt itself when it pulled the sales from the general public. Many of us liked, and still do, the Colt products for target shooting, hunting etc. However, if you weren’t military or law enforcement you couldn’t buy a new gun. That was the start of their problems.

  146. I have been a NRA member most of my life, and truly believe, if it where not for the NRA, we wouldn’t have gun rights today. They’re not in the business of Bailing out companies that are not making wise decision. They work hard to keep all of our Constitutional Rights, so we can keep our weapons. Colt is like John DEERE tractors. Your paying for the name, not the quality they once had. U have to sell a good affordable product that people want, and now, they’re not. Don’t want anything to happen to Colt, but they are going to have to make major changes. I think they really know what they need to do, if not, they should fail.

    1. I believe Ron S. is correct… and the decision that all the Northeastern US based firearms manufacturers need to make right now is: Move out of the liberal bastions they (and their employees) pay taxes to, which are used to restrict firearms ownership within those jurisdictions. I wonder how many of the employees vote for liberal/anti-gun candidates who promise higher wages for their loyalty.

      If Colt wants to make a profit, I would suggest they start producing huge numbers of .22 caliber ammunition that can be sold for 1.5 to 2.0 cents per round, so shooters can afford to feed the millions of .22 caliber firearms we already own, and they can sell more new firearms of this caliber which will help to underwrite the development and production of other items.

      I personally don’t buy Colts any more (although I own several) because of their New England location. Why support a company that offers employment and taxes that anti-gun politicians can use to balance their State budgets on (and claim higher numbers of workers jobs) in their States?

    2. I have been around a long time and am in my middle 70s now. I shot IPSC in the 80s & 90s and later. I have used several different 1911s and found that several of them made very good IPSC match guns. Springfield is every bit as good as a Colt and several pistolsmiths built guns on the cheaper frames.
      I think that Colt should have changed the design of the Python to make it tougher and more friendly to reloaders and shooters. It was a gentleman’s gun not a match gun or gunfigher’s gun. I have owned several of them and always preferred the Smith & Wesson to the Python. The old Trooper revolver was a better start if they had shortened and cleaned up the action. And that cylinder latch really needed to go bye bye.

  147. I have carried Colt’s all my life. My 1911 A-1 has saved my life more times than I can list as a lawman . MY backup and undercover gun is a Colt Cobra. As a Distinguished Mater competitive PPC shooter, for years I shot a pair customized Colt Trooper III’s. As a competitive Fast Draw Champion in the 1960’s my custom Colt SA was my gun of choice. As a child one of my first experiences was shooting my fathers Colt Woodsman .22 pistol. In my collection I have an original Colt Lightening Rifle in .22 Short, that I love to shoot to this day.

    To say that Colt has had an impact on my entire life is to say I am only alive … thanks to the Colt Firearms Company!

    We can only pray that some mega-billionaire like the Coch Bros. are willing to come to the rescue of the greatest firearm company in the history of man.

    “Be not afraid of man or beast,
    That walk beneath the Skies.
    For when danger threaten call on me,
    And I will equalize.”
    Col. Samuel Colt

    GOD BLESS COLT!
    OMK

  148. If Colt is having problems after the last 2 years of record prices they need to shut it down. The current business model is not going to work. Declare ch7, tell the union thugs adios and move South.

  149. Colt can’t produce what they advertise in their own catalog!
    I’ve had a SA New Frontier ordered @ local dealer for over 2 years now. Multiple calls to Colt – they finally told me that these pistols are made by hand – 7-8 of them completed each week.
    How will this level of manufacturing ever compete with the competetion?

  150. Colt makes great firearms – the problem is they have a lot of competition for similar types of firearms – their Defense firearms are among the best and I’m not sure why they are not competitive for new Military orders but management may be the problem. That said, they discontinued wildly popular firearms like the Python which always had a big demand and even now as collector items. They need to find ways to come up with new and interesting products and perhaps include more in the easily affordable by the average guy range

  151. It would truly be a shame to see Colt bite the dust. They are national institution, along with Remington and S&W. Of course one of the issues Colt has had after WWII is that they are good but they didn’t feel to be competitive in the civilian market. Quality must be balanced by availability and affordability. Colt has been one of the priciest brands in the market. I was a Colt man too but after not being able to get the service and affordability I wanted I turned to their competitors to find the same quality in more affordable and more innovative packages. I love the 1911 but when was the last time Colt brought out a new handgun design? I want to get my SAA ready for retirement and display, but for the last few years I haven’t been able to even get those services. Maybe now Colt will start opening up again and maybe they will put their designers to work on future guns. I wish them all well. (Stephen, I agree, it isn’t about the union it’s about management decisions; as long as the UAW hierarchy doesn’t push the wage ceiling too high as to put those union members jobs at risk.)

  152. Unions add a substantial burden to the personnel expense and unfunded liabilities to companies. However, Colt thought that their government gravy train would never run out. They abandoned the consumer market several years back (as a sop to gun control democrats who also controlled govt contracts). A vacuum was created and everyone started fabricating (and selling) the AR type at lower prices. Now Colt is hurting and actually trying to get back into the AR retail market on a limited basis. Competition has forced their price points much lower than they used to be so unit sales will need to be substantially higher in order to reclaim a healthy profit picture. In order to do that, they will need to do some creative product packaging and offer some sort of value spiff to bring customers back; further stressing the margins. Bad decisions by political management caused this. Union concessions might help them weather thru this if they make the decision to embrace the 2nd amendment.

  153. “steady decline in demand” HORSE $4iT! My beloved Colt rampant pony is defecating all over the place! I alone have interest “demand” for a single action 45lc… couldn’t afford it and to add insult to injury, price went up four to five hundred dollars in one year a couple years ago. I have interest in a 6920 AR, only occasionally do you find a close to reasonable price on them.

    Like another guy in the comments said… start producing the Pythons and Anacondas again… I’d snatch up a Python quick, but Colt will probably press the “ludicrous price” button on those as well.

    As already mentioned in previous comments, by all means, keep an office with the Hartford address, but move production to a friendly locale, both tax-wise and away from anti American unions.

    Decline in demand my lily white arse! With AR accessories alone, those manufacturers are humpin’ like crazy to get stuff out… why? People are putting this stuff on somethin’ and they ain’t attaching the stuff to no bicycle!

  154. Why do you blame unions when companies fail? The Union members are the workers, not the management team. Bad management and decisions by CEO are what is bringing Colt down, not the workers that build the product. If your argument was valid against unions why is Ford still alive after 70+ years of unionization?

    1. When I blame the union, it’s because the union is at least partially responsible. Back in the 60s and 70s. UAW members broke keys of in the trunk lock of cars which stopped the assembly line. They strike for higher wages and lower productivity, more benefits and less work, lower retirement wage, etc. But they do not increase productivity at all. That’s the job of capital — to get more equipment and so on.

      Unions don’t even have a good track record of being good for their members they did not reduce the work week to 40 hours. They did not increase wages in general. They did not get medical insurance. A lot of people believe they did, but that’s not true.

      For instance, Henry Ford raised wages because he wanted to keep turnover low (not so his employees could buy Model Ts). This reduced his overall labor cost and increased his profits. Big comapnies introduced medical insurance because the government froze wages during WWII, and they, too, wanted to reduce turnover. They offered benefits to keep workers.

      Mr. Magoo, er, O’bama, will there ever BE any Jobs?

    2. I don’t believe the article was blaming the union for Colts failure. He made the comment about the UAW because of the automaker bailout and the fact that our so called would be president could bailout the firearms manufacturer.

    3. Unions are a horrible organization take UPS when you little union boys go on strike you don’t think once of the customers you just think about your own pocket book while other people hurt unions are the reason why tons of jobs are leaving the United States they can do it for cheaper labor and not all the medical costs just listen to yourself for once instead of going to a meeting and have been someone else tell you how to live your life it might be a little bit happier

    4. I agree. he wasnt blaming the union. he was taking a poke at our so called wanna be president. as if he would bail out Colt like he did for some of the automakers.

    5. Stephen Paraski.

      Where does the NRA and all the other Gun Rights Organizations stand on the issue. They stand on the “Bully Pulpit” demand Gun Rights for Masses. Why don’t pull their collective resources together and “Bail-Out” Colt’s financial woes. They DEMAND a smaller non obtrusive government that stay out of the way’s, when it comes to gun policies. Good, NOW they can “Step Up To the Plate”. And BAIL-OUT on of their own and show too the American Public, what NRA really stands for.

      They’ve been beating everybody on the Head for Years Now. Now, its time for the to take a few LUMPS.

    6. Your comment presupposes that Colt somehow deserves a bailout.
      There are many other firearms manufacturers in the US and it is a competitive marketplace. Colt’s demise merely means that they have not been competitive in that marketplace. Merely making a great product isn’t enough when there are many others who also make great products but at more competitive prices.

    7. The NRA is not a manufacturing company, nor do they have the expertise to run one. In addition, if they spent OUR money bailing out Colt, they wouldn’t have the resources to do what they do now, fight for our rights.

      I have many Colts, and I’d like nothing more than having them rise to the top, but the company has been poorly managed for the past 30 years. And that’s an understatement! While 2014 may have been slow compared to 2013, the past six years have made the record books in firearms sales. Colt has made nothing but horrendous business decisions for years.

    8. BTW, GM and Chrysler both died because of the unions. Ford barely made it out (and I suspect it was to a large degree, because of people like me who refused to by Government Motors’ products).

      However, let;s not forget that O’bama did not save the autoINDUSTRY. He saved the auto UNION and he did it by robbing widows and orphans of their pensions and support.

      Mr. Magoo, er, O’bama, will there ever BE any Jobs?

    9. CNC machining is makiking every fire arm manufacturer pretty close these days. Their cost is twice as high as a Ruger SR1911 who pusts out a very tight firearm from quality material. That is only one.

  155. I began buying Colt revolvers in 1967, bought my first Colt 1911A1 in 1975, trained at Gunsite in 1977 and 78. Bought a couple more Colt 1911s since then. All of them needed gunsmithing before they would feed USGI hardball out of the box. I spent far more on absolutely necessary gunsmith services than I ever spent on the guns themselves. Don’t get me wrong. I still shoot them and stake my life on Colt 1911, and I take pride in my equipment. I like the Colts, and I like the brand, but the quality is just not there. In my experience, never has been. My son is in the market for a 1911, and I cannot advise him to buy Colt. There are better guns for significantly less money. I shoot .308 rifles, not .223 so most of their rifle product line is of no interest to me. Colt has lots of competition these days, and a lot of that is better quality at lower pricing. Who caused that? Colt did. Those are the hard facts. I don’t wish them to fail, or have any troubles at all, but they had better act like a firearms company or goodbye. And I am a loyal customer for almost 50yrs.

  156. Some years back, I had a Colt Government Model Jammamatic – it was rare that I got through a magazine of anything – even hardball – without at least one jam. It went back THREE TIMES for Colt’s alleged “warranty service” . . . and it remained a jammamatic. Any manufacturer can produce an occasional lemon – the GOOD manufacturers will make it right. In my experience, Colt’s is NOT a good manufacturer.

  157. I’m not a fan of the Union, I think thy have over stayed their welcome in most cases. But in the last year have the top brass in the company received their normal rather large bonuses like in the car and banking industries had I belive thier is plenty of blame to go around on that end. I also belive thy need to make themselves competitive with price and quality. I can build a AR for in most cases 3 to 5 hundred less then most companies out thier and I’m not a pro but I use the Internet to compair prices if colt God under I think it would be a big loss but someone else will fill the void

  158. Colt should move south, We here in Florida have a host of gun manufacturing companies. Taxes are low, the weather is better, no loss days to snow. No unions, plenty of high tech workers in or around the Space Coast to choose from. I do agree with an earlier comment Colt needs to expand their line to include a less expensive, not cheaper grouping, by all means keep a custom shop for 1911’s etc. But concealed carry is in demand, the handwriting is on the wall. It’s time to rip the bandaid off leave the anti-gun northeast, and save yourself’s. I carried your M-16 and 1911A1 while in the Army, and they are still serving me today. Don’t drop the ball Obama wanted change so give it to him!

    1. I agree Brian. Also Colt should bring back the python and anaconda and whatever other wheel guns. I have semi’s, but you just can’t beat a good ole 6 shooter. Its not about how many rounds, but proper placement.

  159. The first thing I would do is move to Texas. Colt needs to reorganize their firearm lines. Everybody is making AR15’s, MP4’s and Colt needs to do them cheaper and better. As far as pistols are concerned, they haven’t had a good conceal carry semi for ever. The market is going towards good conceal carry guns; a good .308 semi that is inexpensive; There is a lot of competition out there and colt needs to stick to the guns they have made famous but make them a little less expensive and make them in Texas or Florida where they can save some money on unions and taxes.

    1. colt needs to up grade to making a good conceal semi automatic hand gun. use this time to regroup and come out fighting against the enemy the anti gunners. and the politicians who are scared of weapons and the makers of firearms. make them sweat., put it in second gear and get going to over drive. good luck Colt is a huge part of American history, so make the best weapons at the best price and you will surpass all of your competition without even breaking a sweat. God Bless Colt

  160. Why would I buy a “Colt 1911” when I can buy a custom for the same price? Quality sells better than names. Make your product more affordable or fit the quality/craftsmanship to the price tag. I’ve shot plenty of Colt AR’s and they weren’t any better than my Stag in craftsmanship of functionality. If I wanted to pay the big bucks for an AR I’d buy a PWS, POF, or LaRue. Of course theres marketing and innovation which Colt has been seriously lacking. It would be a shame if Colt failed due to miss management. Really!!!?? its hard to feel bad for such stupidity.

  161. Colt is a big heavy awkward animal, I love their products, I don’t think they will ever die, if they recognize they have to change in a changing world.
    They need to keep a Hartford P.O box address, but they need a new modern facility in a state that supports their industry. Argentina rings a bell.

  162. I think that Colt is a great weapon, and would hate to see anything happen to them. But there only hurting they’re self if they don’t make changes, like Remington did. Move south! I’m sure that Unions where a good thing at one time, but now they are no different than the NAACP. Start trouble, and be paid money, just to keep a handful of people wealthy. Then through in the high cost of living of the New England States. We all have to make changes, and right now more than ever, the way this country is being destroyed. The military don’t need weapons now with all the cuts being made, we need personnel for the weapons. What weapons the Gov. wants goes to fund the muslims. U can take New York, & California, put them in a bag, shake it up, pour it out, and when it comes to GUNS, they both have a Hitler way of thinking. But COLT, make some changes, we need our weapons.

  163. Unions are like a comunist mafia in part that is why Detroit car maker went down may be except ford. A good business is when it is good for employer and employee, but in case of union is only good for employee it will fail. A left wind goverment is in the white house now taking apart our nation, trying to take out our rigths in the constitution, specially second amendment

  164. It’s simple… Design and manufacture a product that “the people” want to buy. Colt isn’t doing this. I don’t want a 1911 or a revolver or an overpriced AR. Look at the competition coming out with new and better (ie FN, Springfield XD, S&W M&P, Walther PPQ, HK VP9, etc, etc). It’s not rocket science. Unions and their members may want their share, but it’s up to leaders to foresee and create a future. They need a VISION!!!

  165. I am currently in the market for two additional firearms. Two issues are holding me back. Lack of ammunition at a reasonable price and I refuse to purchase a gun from a company that does business in a state that is anti 2nd amendment. However,,,things are looking up on manufacturers moving to gun friendly states.

    1. CommonSense4America

      What kind of “Screw Ball Question” is that. That like saying, I’m going to stop drinking Whiskey and Bourbon, Kentucky and Tennessee. Because the people in those states, can’t drink the product they themselves produce!

  166. Colt should got back to doing what they did best – making revolvers like the python, anaconda, king cobra, magnum carry, etc. They made the best revolvers, but they stopped. Not a smart business move. Those guns sell for high figures because people love them. They should manufacture them again.

  167. I would like to say that if it wasn”t for the Colt M16 I wouldn”t be here writing this comment in Vietnam it never failed me it saved me in many firefights and to see this company go down and out of business would be a shame let”s hope that Colt can bring back its tradition of making the worlds best firearms.

  168. Unions aren’t to blame or the state of Connecticut . Colt is failing because there are other manufacturers of ARs and 1911s. They made a mistake dropping the revolvers for the civilian market and concentrating on military an LE market. The demand for the python , diamondback and other revolvers are shown in their very high market prices. The worst thing they did was put a marine general as CEO . You cannot run civilian corporations like the military

  169. Colt needs to get out of gun hating union infested tax crazy New England and move west. A new marketing dept. wold help as well That would solve most of their problems. I think Sam would have done it if he were still around.

    1. They can move west or south,
      Both are very gun friendly and would be a far better place than the
      Anti-gun Northeast.

  170. Unions and their demands are the downfall of a lot of businesses. If a company shows a profit, the union wants it!

  171. you don’t understand the animosity to unions when unions take dues money from employees and give it to the very people who want the company out of business.
    THE UNIONS ARE PUTTING THESE COMPANIES OUT OF BUSINESS, therefore putting the employees out of a job, and you don’t “understand” that fact ???
    I don’t care how many of these companies “have” union workers, comrade obama WILL put them out of business.
    Out of business is Out of business, period, end of story !!!!!!!!!

  172. I carried a Colt for 21 years in the Army and it never failed me. I own two 6920s now and love them. Sorry for all of the Colt haters, but I love mine. Peace.

  173. Would hate to lose the name Colt from an industry it helped create. Colt is America–at least it was. The SAA, 1911, and the M16s/4s are all staples of our industry–built by Colt, in which most all others are compared. I own several revolvers, and 1911s made by Colt-I will probably never part with them. It saddens me that they succumbed to the pressures of commie-unions. If one dug deep into the issues at Colt, most likely poor management and the union are the problems. I’d venture to say the poor decisions were driven by the union as well…can’t upset the money-hungry do-nothings. Those high prices are a direct result of the union being incapable of thinking with anything but their asses.
    It’s not easy to just shut down and move shop, but at some point hard decisions have to be made. Other smaller companies have done it, but Colt is a huge operation–many companies around them in Hartford manufacture the parts that are used everyday to build their guns. It would not be an easy move.
    I for one would welcome it. Colt needs to be brought back to the industry it once served-the civilian market, the everyday man. A cheaper 1911 made by Colt could happen, but the union has to be removed from the equation.
    Colt is as American as apple pie and I don’t think anyone in our industry should wish its demise.

    1. You got the right idea, downsize and streamline but definitely make the move . Its definitely in the wrong location now and political sentiment is only going to get worse there. That’s why we distrust unions in the South , unions have never been good for the South. Your right about the weapons the Colt name is about Quality . Nowadays more than ever is competitive prices . There maybe less people and more robotics to accomplish these tasks . But it can be accomplished I believe , the loss of Colt would be another in a long line of tragedies for the American worker, gun lover and people.

  174. I do not understand the hatred for unions shown in these posts. A majority of the worlds top firearm manufactures are UNION, including H&K, Glock, FNH, Sig Sauer, Remington, Bushmaster, DPMS, Beretta, Benelli, Franchi, ParaOrd., etc, etc … It’s not the unions fault. A union is just a contract between employers and employees to protect workers rights. Look deeper into the problems of Colt and stop pointing fingers.

  175. Sounds as if Colts management is failing. Doe Colt have to revive the appeal of the wheel gun to succeed? You see most of the hand guns being marketed by manufactures are semiauto and Colt offers semiauto pistols and rifles so where lies the business problem? If your a company and sales are down then a strategic new business plan may provide you a solution? The firearms industry is highly competitive while being extremely fragmented with the addition of many new domestic and foreign manufactures marketing their firearm products for a piece of the action, our older traditional firearm manufactures are being squeezed by these new players in the game and their bottom line is now showing the forces of the squeeze. This unfortunate phenomenon that is occurring with Colt can easily transition and begin to threaten the viability of our other American traditional firearm manufactures and should act as a wake up call for them to start planning and get aggressive with new innovation of both firearms and their associated accessories, this is a challenging endeavor to say the least coupled with battling the anti-gun movement and abiding by new unnecessary firearm manufacturing laws and regulations all at the same time. Making observations of Colts financial dilemma is not so difficult, it’s the solution that is evasive.

    ER.

  176. I seem to remember something abouta ccouple saying that colt had no interest in public sales and wanted to only do business with l.e. and mmilitary contracts. I say good riddance to them and their overpriced American made junk.

  177. Ever since Colt pulled that PC wuss out ” Oh , we are restricting sales to Government Agencies ” maneuver during the Clinton era I said screw ’em. Living in Kommiefornia is bad enough but to get screwed over by a company you have faithful bought from for years just to apprease the Dems did not go down well.
    SCREW ‘EM !

  178. My god. Coming out of one of the biggest firearms sales booms, and they are in trouble? Even with fulfilling government cost plus contracts? This may be the worst run company in America. Seems the this latest action is just going to delay the inevitable. Someone will pick up the name amy any ip they have after bankruptcy,and hopefully create a profitable and relevant company again.

  179. I love anything Colt,but my wallet doesn’t . I know that they make a very quality product, but so does a lot of other gun makers at a resonably affordable price. Get with the times. We all aren’t rich……

  180. I have been thinking about buying a Colt, but one thing I don’t do, is support unions.Just like I will never ,ever buy a GM or Chrysler product again, after buying them for the last 52 years. They took taxpayer dollars to get a nice raise and a great bonus. I hope someday they go out of business!

    1. My sentiments exactly and I did not know this until now, but the UAW supported comrade obama, so some of Colts profits went to support the POS who wants to put the Co. out of business, the same with the stupid employees, in their greed to make a few bucks a week more, (for a few dollars more), they helped the UAW sell their employer out to a commie, I hope Colt now starts a small competitor business with NO union and screw the employees !!!

    2. Yeah Doug. It really ticked me off that they helped GM and Chrysler, the union shops, but they let Suzuki (non-union) go out of business, and now they’re fining Kia and Hundai millions, but not Ford which also had the same problems.

  181. Would really like to see Colt get back into the revolver game, I would love to be able to buy a new in box Trooper or any of the snake guns.

  182. I agree with this post totally. I have always wanted a colt gun, any gun, but I chose to buy a smith .500 because of reliability and company stability (and cheaper and more powerful not to mention), but I still believe in them. American firearms shouldn’t have to compete with foreign company’s products, but should adapt and reform to meet the demand. Americans want guns, and if an American gun cost 1000’s of $ then of course the average seeker is gonna go with the cheaper when it is quality and reliable, not to mention warranty friendly unlike other older American firearms makers. Seriously, when is the last time you heard of any colt being the weapon of choice in the civilian world? Nuff said. They use the same materials to make their product as everyone else in USA, so why is it so much more expensive? Make your products for the regular consumer vs the richest around and you will see profit.

  183. During the early nineties Colt employees went on a prolonged strike. Colt hired replacement workers and in less than a year daily production went from 800 to 1,100 guns. When Colt and the union settled, the replacements were let go, the union employees came back, and production dropped to 800. Colt’s management is weak and short sighted.

  184. When the inevitable day comes (that our Constitutional framers forsaw when they gave us the 2nd ammendment), many a patriotic American will greatly appreciate Colt’s efforts. Its a shame the socialists (unions) will have been the undoing of this company by then.

  185. Unions doing what they do best. Move to Texas and keep the name going. Been around too long and have done too much to cakk it quits.Love your products.

  186. Just sitting here reading this article about possible losing Colt firearms. I will be the first to admit When I left the Navy back in the ’70s I turned in my firearms and really had not thought about them again. In 2005 my grandfather passed away and I was left his 308 he had bought sometime back in the ’40s. After a little cleaning and a box of shells it never stopped. I purchased several pistols two of which were Colts and a few rifles, a couple which were collectors. I have used my Colts to teach my girlfriend and three grandsons how to properly carry, use and store a firearm. Each have tried my other pistols but they all like the Colts the best. I am not sure what needs to happen to make Colt solvent or whole or whatever you want to call the rescue and guaranteed survival of Colt but we must do whatever it will take, we cannot loose Colt it IS and must remain an integral part of our nation..

  187. Hate to say it, but maybe it is time… After manufacturing the M-16 and I’m guessing the M-4, that more than likely got more of our G.I.’s killed that the enemy, perhaps it is about time….

    No hitting power, would not carry through the jungle or forest, always jamming or breaking… That was not one of the best choices and we stayed with it for ever! Now if an American manufacturer can make a knock off of the of the AK-47, with a better barrel and a milled receiver that would be something that our G.I.’s could trust…

    Incidentally, I’m told that IWI (Israeli Weapons Industries) is currently building a plant in America to do just that… I believe it is called the Ace-23…

    1. I hate to burst your bubble, but Colt isn’t responsible for our military being outfitted with the M-16/M-4. Armalite came up with the M-16 at the request of our government, as a replacement for the M-14.. The military decided to adopt the M-16 and wanted to have a US manufacturer step up to make the guns for them. Colt did exactly what Uncle Sugar wanted.

  188. They should start selling their double-action revolvers again. There is a huge demand for Colt DA revolvers, as evidenced by the prices of the existing ones…

  189. I own 4 Colt AR-15’s. One is the venerable AR15A4 and the other 3 variations of the Colt 6920. I alos own 2 Colt Model 1911’s. These weapons ARE the standard by which all other M4orgery types are made. Same goes for ALL the different Calibers based on the Colt 1911. Colt is an American as it gets!

  190. I don’t know where Colt does its manufacturing, but it seems as though you need to get out from Under the Unions. Move South with all the other gun owners. Don’t let the government and unions run you out of business. Move to NC.

  191. What this amounts to is the labor unions, specifically the UAW, driving another company into bankruptcy.
    Another example of the unions killing US jobs.
    What Colt should do is file for bankruptcy, close down, get the hell out of Connecticut, then re-locate and re-open in a more firearm friendly, right to work state.
    Personally I avoid buying union made products whenever possible.

    1. It would be nice if folks felt that way about chinese made stuff. But folks will not bat an eye buying chinese products over American products if the chinese stuff is $1 cheaper. Union made used to be the symbol of american manufacturing prowess and pride (showed that it was made by your friends and neighbors, who took pride in their job and were able to live the american dream doing so).

  192. Colt has always put out a great product. On the other hand so does Ruger, S&W, Tarus (yes Tarus) but Colt has not done anything to hold the price line. I have felt for the last 20 years Colt was way to proud of their products and was charging to much. In this day and age this is the result. Colt will survive but I will continue to purchase from the companies that have tried to hold the prices down.

    1. You hit the nail on the head, Colt is a great product but there is other names on the market that is just as good or in some cases better than Colt and they have managed to keep there guns within in a price range that is affordable. Not all gun owners is equipped with unlimited resources !
      I say stop cutting your own throats.

  193. I think Colt’s problem is obvious: they are way too expensive and they have priced themselves right out of the average consumer market. Unlike a hundred plus years ago there are now more choices, high quality alternatives at affordable prices. I don’t have to pay $2000 for a Colt 1911 when I can buy a Springfield for $700. I can buy and have fun with several models of Ruger firearms instead of owning just one Colt. If the others can make affordable, durable firearms…why can’t Colt? Corporate stubbornness and pride?

    1. I don’t know where you’ve been shopping for Colts. I own 8 Colt 1911’s and haven’t paid over $1200 for any one of them. A few well under $1000.

  194. I can’t understand why Colt has not started remaking their extremely fine revolvers. The Colt Python, Anaconda, Cobra, Detective Special (small frame 6 shot instead of the new 5 shot with same from from others) and Trooper MK III were all fine, fine revolvers that had great looks, triggers and bluing that was not surpassed. Revolvers have been hot for the last 8 to 10 years due to concealed carry. No rounds ejected when fired and are controllable when fired and easy to conceal. S&W, Taurus have the markets on these with Ruger in close behind. Just never understood why they don’t make them now. The armed forces are changing their battle rifle platforms and I don’t think Colt will be able to compete. I hate to see them go, really depressing. ( Oh yea, get rid of the union and save millions each month)……

    1. Yes first thing move to Texas and then get rid of the Union shop. Everyone will be better off for it and Colt can stay in business with a Chapter 11…
      I own two colt 1911s and a rifle. Just remember one thing Colt is that the world will miss you but it can do without you with the polymer guns being made now. They are the cats meow of EDC guns….

    2. Ain’t goin to happen. All of the old machinery used to produce revolvers is basically gone. The cost to buy such machinery is prohibitive. Keep in mind that Colt revolvers require a lot of hand fitting. Most of these craftsmen have either retired or passed on.

      Talk about Colts being out of reach for the average consumer, if they would attempt to re-introduce the revolver line, retail prices would indeed limit purchases to the affluent.

  195. I have never been able to afford a colt. Colt has always catered to the affluent and snobbish collectors. I’m actually surprised that a manufacturer with such a great rep has such a small profit reserve. But then again I’m only 70, when you forget the general public this is what happens.

  196. I say… BULL! Colt is, as it always HAS been, the name in America for firearms! I own not one, but two Colt AR’s, and a 1911, which is my most prized possession! (Hear me, gun-grabbers? Just TRY to take ’em from me). Furthermore, I carried a Colt 1911 in the 70’s as an SP in the U.S. Navy, and would have never wanted one of those Beretta things they force them to use today… M9, BAH! Humbug…. Let’s all not get in too much of a hurry to wave g’bye to an American Institution. Sam Colt’s company was there in the early, glory days, and should be revered, not laughed at (remember General Motors?) Long live the Colts!

    1. I remember GM. I also remember them going under with the help of a selfish union (UAW) who refused to make sacrifices that MIGHT have saved the company.

    2. @ Bruce: Maybe it’s just an age thing, but I always think – “Smith & Wesson”, when it comes to THE name in America for firearms.

      When I hear Colt, it instead conjures up a resonance of government military contracts and the AR platform I carry on the military side of my career, and when necessary, on the LE side of my career.

      Albeit, there are the Colt AR platforms in my personal collection as well, but in my mind they still convey a service connection. My M&P ARs however lean towards invoking more a civilian law enforcement feel for me.

      That’s just me though.

  197. After WW II, my Dad brought his Colt 1911 home with him. While I had shot his High Standard .22, it was the .45 that got my attention. It was probably ’54 or ’55 when Dad took me out to shoot his gun.

    It was big, loud, and had a stiff recoil, but I was hooked. I started a life long relationship with the 1911 and Colt in particular. I’ve had a variety of Colts, including pistols and revolvers. I’ve had 1911’s in almost all sizes, 3″ to 5″; with my personal favorite being the LW Commander. I admit I have owned other brands; Wilson,Kimber, Norinco, Remington to name a few. These “off-brands” came and went.

    At retirement, I had been down sizing my meager collection, I have 8 Colt pistols, and 3 revolvers left. But, these will stay with me until I can’t shoot anymore. Then, they’ll go to my Son.

    MOLON LABE

  198. 1. Bring Back Double Action Pistols!!!!!!!!!!
    2. Make the single action pistols more available
    3. More diversity in the 1911 lineup
    4. Sell more AR uppers, lowers and parts ect.

    Most of all: ACT LIKE YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CIVILLIAN CUSTOMERS AND FANS

  199. Colt firearms are over- rated and over- priced. Colt has priced itself out of the global market. Whatever becomes of Colt is the result of poor leadership and lack of insight for the need to compete with other arms makers whose products are just as good. Colt has relied on its name for too long and not given enough attention to production quality and a global economy. The same thing happened to the U.S. car companies.

    1. I am not sure if I agree with all your comments, but the union which it says is a part of the United Auto Workers, is certainly not helping their bottom line. S&W are extremely high in price, yet they sell all of them. They make double action revolvers and Colt does NOT make any. I agree if they don’t get it together and do it soon they will history, literally….

  200. i agree explicitly with nick!!! and i want to add on to those thoughts. i will never own a s&w because about 10 or 15 years ago they sold their own industry out by agreeing to a bunch of govt crap. if it hadnt been for suck and whacken, we would all be in a stronger position to fight off all these morons that want to take our gus away. there is no middle ground..you got to cut this postureing for getting rid of guns in the usa out like a cancer. so, you balless retards better come around or you will all be sitting on your couches playing e-games and then, it will be too late for the usa period.

  201. From a historic standpoint, colt going down is disappointing. However, they are not Samuel Colt’s company for a few reasons.
    1. They are no longer innovative
    2. They don’t cater to the civilian market and in fact, we are an afterthought
    3. They have structured themselves to be reliant on government
    4. They alway ride the fence on issues like gun control (don’t want to get noticed by someone anti 2nd amendment who might be in gov purchasing).
    5. All the above combine to be a mediocre company facing the Daniel Defenses, Kimbers, and countless other awesome companies results in colt going out of business.

  202. I have a 1911, Its a Remington. I also have an AR-15, that’s Colt. Why? I didn’t want to pay $1000+ for Colt 1911 because it wasn’t worth that and the R1 ($600) works like a champ. On the other hand, i could have paid $700 for a Panther or Bushmaster AR. but the Colt at Wal Mart was $1000, that was worth it. Granted that was a year or 3 ago. I have noticed that Colt’s prices have been going down lately, too. I could get a Series 80 1911 for about $700 and their stripped down competition AR-15 for almost the same.

  203. First Colt first needs to lose the UAW stop paying crazy high wages to union people that can’t perform and pay people what they are worth and move away from the land of the libtards

  204. Can’t help but agree that UNION LABOR is the main problem. I have seen so many things go wrong due to the cost of a union in my walk of life. The cost of union products continue to rise sharply yet the common man’s wages do not and therefore the end cost of a union made product is too high. By the time profit is added to the cost the product it is grossly overpriced and a equal quality product can be found that works just as well for far less money to be paid out to buy it.

  205. I always wanted a Colt, not a copy, of the 1873 SA. They are really expensive, but worst Colt for some reason does not bother to make many of them so they are always in place an order mode. Well if they don’t bother to make a gun they sell at such a high price, I understand why they are always having financial problems. I have never seen a company rest on its laurels as much as Colt does. They deserve to go broke.

  206. Hmm. let’s see. Overpriced, lack of innovation, poor quality, union shop. Does anybody else see Colt’s similarity to the American auto industry?

  207. The problem with Colt is the same as the other “big names”, they sell their name and not their product. What I mean is that they price products based on who they are rather than how good their product is. I can get pistols and rifles made by no name companies that are just as good but cheaper. For instance, I can get a M1911A1 government model pistol from Rock Island that is just as good as a Colt 1911 for a third of the price. I’ve put together three M4 type AR15’s and have spent easily a third of what it would have cost me to buy a Colt brand and I’ll go head to head with them on quality and accuracy. If they want to survive, then they have to get competitive and stop relying on just their name.

    1. So true. I build my own rifles at least half the cost of Colt. They work just fine. It’s cost. We vote with our wallet. Sad but true.

    2. I agree. Colt has always been over-priced. At least in my last 50 years of gun buying. When Colt sells the same Italian made SAA for twice the price because it says Colt, is a mistake.
      As for building AR15/M4 types I have built (assembled) 3 in the last two months. I can’t build a rifle for 1/3rd the cost and have the same quality. I did make two using DSA uppers that cost $638, but they were not as nice. I built another using a Bravo Company upper, it cost $1000. I bought a Colt in January for less.
      Colt stopped making high quality handguns by the 80’s. A junk Detective Special cost more than the competition. Colt went crude and expected we users would keep buying them. I stopped.

  208. Colt needs to get back into the revolver market! I have two pythons a detective special and love the guns. We need a Colt revolver for conceal carry. I have always preferred Colt to S&W, don’t really know why just have!

  209. Haven’t looked at NOR bought any Colt product since they SPIT in the face of the American shooter by REFUSING to sell AR15s to civilians back on March 15th 1989 in Solidarity with the Commies running the first Bush Administration. That was also around the time I quit the NRA because Joe Foss ACCEPTED a Commemorative Joe Foss .45 from them and didn’t tell them to Stick it UP their ASS and pull the TRIGGER. Colt can Drop Dead far as I’m concerned and so can HANOI Jane Fonda!!!

    1. Hey nick, I’m sensing your are holding back. It’s really fine to let it rip and tell us all how you really feel. Come on man, let-it-out buddy. It’s okay!

    2. Nick, your dead on target! We gun people have need to convey our thoughts to the gun makers. The gun people made them and they keep forgetting that. You were to easy on HANOI jane.

    3. I bought a Colt AR-15 HBAR in 2001. I was only 17 in 1989. I guess they started selling them to civilians again? LE6920’s are pretty nice. I might go as far as to say the best mass produced AR out there for the money. (Under $1,000)

  210. I have several of the true old Colt’s that is when they were made with pride and true craftsmanship. Colt needs to move out of the northeast and into the south or southwest and go back to the old ways. Bring back the revolver. Do away with the union so you can bring the prices down and people will start buying again.

  211. Colt has been off my list for a couple of years now. I purchased a New Agent 45 that was recalled. The replacement gun was almost as poor quality as the recalled gun. Very sloppy work. No more new Colts for me. No wonder they are going broke.

    1. I am sure the quality of their product suffers due to the union work force. UAW, they can’t even build a reliable automobile.

    2. I’ve been wanting the New Agent 45 for years, figured if anybody can make a small 45 right that Colt could. Guess I was wrong.

  212. Maybe the remnants of Colt can align themselves under Henry Repeating Rifles. Anthony Imperato seems to have the smarts on how to run a gun company even in a hostile climate. He works for a living, and expects his people to do so, too. After all, he won’t move to Texas or some other gun-friendly state because of his dedication to his employees. What a novel concept! He actually cares about his company, his product, his people and – most of all – his customers! That’s why I’ll never trade my Henry rifle!

  213. Jason, this is a perfect example of how the free market system should work. It does, but only when government keeps its hands off of the system. Sadly, the system has been diluted with untold laws and regulations via endless state and federal agencies—all supported by power-seeking politicians and a low-info population that regards the profit motive as “evil,” and business as “greedy.”

  214. Jason, this is a perfect example of how the free market system should work. It does, but only when government keeps its hands off of the system. Sadly, the system has been diluted with untold laws and regulations via endless state and federal agencies—all supported by power-seeking politicians and a population that regards the profit motive as “evil,” and business as “greedy.”

  215. It to early to call. but I suspect its going to be Remington, or one of the larger Defense Contractors. Like BAE, General Electric, Rheinmetall, IAI. Or it might even (heaven forbid) be the Chinese… and if were really unlucky, the Russians. Just so the can get a foothold into our financial markets…

  216. UAW? Almost all Automotive companies that survived combining, downsizing, as well as other cost cutting remedies, only survived moving out of the country, and away from the UAW. Why? Because UAW would not accept cost cutting wages, perks, or any other measure to maintain the companies and keep American jobs, in America. Union workers did not believe that the companies would forsake them to remain in business. INVESTORS, do not care what happens to workers as long as they make a profit(bottom line). This is just good business sense. If you are not getting a return on your investment, you cut your losses and look for another lucrative business to invest in
    Move on to State wide gun laws against firearms that, even for Colt, has got to cause major problems. It would aide them, maybe to relocate all their manufacture to a firearms friendly state, like so many have already done. They could keep their administrative offices at Hartford(although it would be cost prohibitive), but hat has been home to Colt since its inception.
    The bottom line is to survive. Hard choices will have to be made, hard pills to swallow to SURVIVE!

  217. Hmmmm…..a union shop? I wonder how much that has anything to do with Colt’s problems. I know the answer, but I’m throwing it out anyway, just for comments.

    1. @ Smitty 550.

      Colt’s Manufacturing, problem was and/or is, that their Arms Contract (different companies) with Colt Defense expired in 2014…

  218. The Colt name will never die! Some heavy hitter will come in and pick up the pieces. But, if Colt management and labor wants to save this great corporation they can do it. The infrastructure is done in place. I saw Winchester, Smith & Wesson and Remington make some hard decisions. How about some AR 15’s and 1911’s at $500 & $600. Other corp’s are doing it. What’s going on now is corporate officers are lining up to cut themselves a go home money package and the unions are lined up to keep what we’ve got. This will not hold in this day and time. Both parties will loose and so will we gun people.

    1. Hmmmm….WHICH “corporate officers” and WHAT other “corps are doing it?” Doing WHAT? You obviously know things that the rest of us don’t.

  219. clot has always made the best hand guns in the world,from single action to t.he best double action in a colt python. the best 45 auto,s from 1911 on

    1. And some of the most expensive. Of course, Colt makes a fine weapon, but is paying for the Name make a Colt that much better than a Ruger?
      Not from my front window.
      I’ll be sad to see Colt fold (if it does), but also think it’s sad that Colt charges a lot for its name.

    2. I agree JSW… Show me the Colt that is $1000 or $2000 better than a comparable Ruger.. NOT. I hate to see Colt go but you can’t double or triple your price on a historic name and Just assume people will pay the price.. A Colt Python is a thing of beauty but they run between 1400 and 6000 dollars that’s absurd.

  220. I haven’t been a union supporter for some years. Seems to me that when they came into being and really served the membership that they were a useful tool for leveling the playing field and giving a voice where non existed before. But when they became corrupt, greedy and unwilling to change for the better and the future, started to hurt the very rank and file they were supposed to protect and support. I turned my back on them. I believe in Right to Work now and if the unions what a part of that financial future they need to move into the 21st century. I don’t know if this position is right of wrong, I would guess that much depends where one lives and works. I just can’t support a system that eats itself from the inside out. If Colt fell victim to the union greed and the demands that they place on busness to support that greed then it’s Colts fault if this is part of their failure.

    1. Thank you . . but , No.
      I believe that I am likly far to sane for that position! I think that to be interested in such an elevated position one must be just a bit off level and plumb. After all what sane person whould seek out such conflict in their life?
      But, thanks for the thought!

    2. Good point, Pete. Maybe the definition of “sane” doesn’t include being
      “power-mad.”

    3. Well said. My colt pistol is the finest revolver I have. Unfortunately I can’t afford 1500 for another. I can’t justify it when I can get 2 other american made guns for the same cost.

    4. Whenever I read a comments section about a company’s problems I have to shake my head in wonder because two opposing views always seem to be the most popular. One says the company’s management is a bunch of evil greedy bastards that don’t care if the company fails as long as they get a golden parachute. The other says all the company’s problems are the fault of corrupt unions whose members are all lazy morons too stupid to realize that their outrageous salary and benefit demands are destroying their employer. Its amazing that any company remains in business.

  221. They think they are better than everyone else and their price point proves it. I would love to own a Colt but never will because they are priced so high and I can get just as good a product else where for cheaper

    1. Mike, businesses can fail if their customers perceive that they act arrogantly, whether true or not. I don’t think this is the case with Colt. Colt offers a good product, but other companies also offer good products, and Colt must compete with them. This means that Colt must remain profitable to remain in business. To remain profitable, their net income after taxes and debt pay-down must exceed their net costs of doing business. Costs include cost of plant and equipment; labor; materials; taxes; transportation; advertising and marketing; debt structure and so forth.

      Colt’s prices can’t exceed prices of similar products of similar quality from their competitors, or customers will buy from their competitors…maybe not in the short run, but certainly in the long run. I doubt that Colt’s prices are related only to your perception that they are “better than anyone else.” There are just too many other variables involved to keep a company running profitably, including a CEO, CFO and Board of Directors who have the expertise and vision to keep the customers, employees and stockholders happy.

  222. I’ll agree with a lot of what is said here.
    Colt made their bed so now they can lie in it… A little harsh but very true. There are a lot of guns out there to choose from and I have never thought Colt was competitive in today’s market. It is difficult to maintain sales based only on reputation. Just ask General Motors. As I said before I don’t own a Colt and don’t know if I ever will. Still the fact that could own one was a good thing. The loss of Colt is loss of an important piece of American history

  223. Being a Union Shop has driven labor cost so high that the cost of Colt firearms is beyond the average person’s budget. I hate to see them go, but they are no longer competitive in the private market.

  224. As one looks into to past history of what’s in the public domain where Colt is concerned. It seems that the old adages of “Follow the money” and “Greed, the Cornor stone of financial mismanagement”
    I have several Colts two of which go back to the civil war, a later Peacemaker in .45LC and several more modern rifles and pistoles. I think that Colt lay to long on its lorals and govermental contracts. Give the climate today there will be no Federal assistance or Banks either, as their strings are tied to the goverment tit in one way or another.
    It’s not a present thought but Colt may well not survive the decade.

    1. @ Pete in Alaska.

      Hey Pete, just read a report that Colt’s Manufacturing Company and Colt Defense had a Weapons Manufacturing contract together, which has and/or had Expired in 2014. That’s most likely the financial demise that Colt’s Manufacturing Co. is facing. Talk to you later…

    2. Hey Secundius!
      I wasn’t aware that there were those kinds of agreements involved in Colts problems. It’s a shame that we may loose this historic US company. Thanks for the info!
      .

    3. Colt turned it’s back on the general public in lieu of government contracts but the teat has gone dry. I rarely even see a Colt anything in the locally owned shops I buy from. In the national chains I do, they get dusty at those prices. Colt’s day has come and gone into the history books listed under ” once great companies”.

  225. This is what Colt gets for years of catering to government and government only. Anything for the consumer market has been an afterthought.
    No wonder I only own one Colt revolver as they haven’t changed in years.
    Ruger, Daniel Defense, the Freedom Group, and countless others have been innovative while Colt has waited on Obama and friends to a big pay day.

  226. I don’t own a Colt and don’t know if I ever will but the demise of an icon like Colt should be enough to cause anyone pause. It is a damn shame. I wonder if there is any possibility of purchase by another company. From strictly a consumer stand point, yes, there is plenty of guns to choose from however, from the stand point of a person that appreciates guns, supports American business and Loves our history the loss of Colt sucks.

    1. With the advent of computer controlled manufacturing and impeccable programmed quality control we can now produce intricate and aerospace quality from our own garage(given the initial equipment purchase price)
      The good thing from the OBAMA gun rush was the MULTITUDE of companies have updated their thinking to mass produce a item in demand and it no longer matters if it’s a Vacuum cleaner or AR15 part from the same company. Once set up your equipment does not care what it is making. This idea was taken way back from WWll. How many small (and well known) companies made M1 carbines?

  227. My Initial reaction is to feel empathy towards such a tragic tale. Especially given that Colt is such an iconic institution in the gun industry.

    However, my empathy turns to apathy as I delve further into the realization that such a failure simply boils down to financial mismanagement.

    Colt is a heavy hitter and has been around the block longer than most. They should have had the experience to weather this storm, and yet they did not.

    It is a sad and harsh reality that simply has to be accepted and we move on.

  228. Lot said when the article pointed out it was a union shop. What do automobiles have to do with this kind of manufacture? Clearly, the union inserted itself. The price of any product includes the material, labor, taxes, …. and of course a high level of living for a multitude who are no longer working. The last person to “consume” a product pays all costs, including retirement annuities. And, of course, THAT would be the purpose for any bail-out.

    1. Someone must not have gotten the memo about that “high level of living” for retirees from a Union job in my case.

      Colt’s problems are due to mismanagement, plain and simple If any company produces a quality product and sells it at a reasonable price they will do fine. Many very profitable companies have Collective Bargaining Agreements.

    2. Ya your right people don’t deserve a living wage, healthcare or a retirement !
      I think every american should make minimum wage have to live on social security when we retire and have Obama Care!
      Maybe this wouldn’t have had happened if thay didn’t have management that lined their pockets and just made their product in China!
      Down with unions! God bless america!

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