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Illinois Concealed Carry Law

Salesman showing sub compact pistol at Pekin Gun and Sporting Goods

It took until July of 2013, but my home state of Illinois became the last state in the Union to enact a concealed carry law. Illinois was last for a reason, and both sides offered plenty of rhetoric. The Antis claimed the law would paramount to the Wild West; the streets would lawless and gun fights rampant. A friendly punch to the snot locker would instead lead to murder conviction because everyone would be packing heat.

Salesman showing sub compact pistol at Pekin Gun and Sporting Goods
Pekin Gun and Sporting Goods in Pekin Illinois has seen a significant interest in concealed carry guns since the new laws were instituted.

On the other hand, there was the pro Second Amendment crowd and the NRA. We claimed the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun was a good guy (or gal) with a gun. Those bent on evil have already proven laws do not deter them. Nowhere was that more evident than god ‘ol Cook County, Illinois. Touting the highest murder rate in the state and likely the country, Cook County posed the strongest opposition to the new law.

Beginning January 1, 2014, Illinois began accepting applications for concealed carry permits. The pro 2A crowd was thrilled and skeptical at the same time. The state gave police the task of handling the issuing of the permits. The prevailing fear was that the police would follow the lawmaker’s example and drag its feet to make every effort to slow the process.

I am pleased to report that was not the case. Given the volume of permits and complexity of implementing a new process, I think the police have been just about as efficient as possible given the circumstances and bureaucracy to which it is also subjected. That left the onus to the people; the empowered people who have successfully completed their training and been vetted by the authorities. The permits started arriving in mailboxes and I am sure more than a few handguns were subject to a long overdue breath of fresh air.

As of yet, I have not heard of any high noon shootouts or gunslingers with hats pulled low over their eyes looking for a fight. However, I have listened and managed to hear gun related news. This week, Chicago police announced that the city’s first quarter murder rate was the lowest since 1958. Via ABC-affiliate Eye Witness News in the Windy City:

  • The first three months of the year saw six fewer murders than the same time frame in 2013—a 9% drop—and 55 fewer murders than 2012, according to a statement from Chicago Police.
  • There were 90 fewer shootings and 119 fewer shooting victims, drops of 26 and 29% respectively, according to police statistics.
  • Compared to the first quarter of 2012, there have been 222 fewer shootings and 292 fewer shooting victims. Overall crime is down 25 percent from last year, and police said they recovered more than 1,300 illegal guns in the last three months.
Pekin Gun customer looking for a new long gun in .308.
Beyond concealed carry weapons, the new focus on firearms has renewed interest in long guns as well.

Now to be fair, I have used some 2012 statistics that show a downward trend before the enactment of the law. Unlike the antis, we have truth on our side and can afford to be honest without the need to skew the numbers. The downward trend is a victory, but more importantly, the numbers also show law-abiding gun owners have never been the problem nor the people whose rights should have been restricted.

In the end, the Right to Bear Arms guaranteed by the Second Amendment has absolutely nothing to do with the murder rate or any crime statistics. In a country of well over 300 million, if there is going to be a single violent crime, one incident where a person is forced or obligated to defend his person, property or loved ones, I do not want that person to be me. As Shakespeare once famously penned, “To thine own self be true…and exercise your right to carry concealed!” I think that is what Polonius said. At least, I am sure that is what he meant to say…

How do you feel the future crime rate will be effected by the new concealed carry laws? Tell us in the comment section.

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Comments (63)

  1. The whole poiunt of the $600 fee is to make it too expensive for people. Police departments should do the training for free, any cost should be mimimal, maybe for an ID card and 1 time check(if it hasn’t already been done) Paying for a check every time you buy a firearm is redundant and a harassment expense. If the public must go through this, LEOs should also. LEOs are citizens, they are NOT Gestapo, with rights above and beyond others.
    Go after the law, do not try to create an exemption, this just makes it worse.

    Here inCa, we have restrictions on the handguns we can buy. LEOs did not, now they honor it, and should also restrict their magazines like a citizens. Only SWAT in legal situations should be allowed to have weapons that are restricted. This is the only way to fight the archaic gun laws. If you do not agree with this, you are a tool of a represive regime.

  2. My issue is with Ex PD, if they at some point are convicted of a crime that prevents them from carrying if there is no way to vet they have the right to continue to carry. With CCL if I commit a crime I’ll lose the lic, not the case with EX LOA. Yes I understand that you carried everyday, but were is the checks and balances.

    We are all born human before we become what we are. And to Err is Human.

  3. Dear Frantz/clearly you looked at my email from last year and decided to reply yet again. What seperates us from the citizen with a concealed carry is the 34 years of law enforcement dedication to the profession! Yes we retire and technically we are citizens “however” the profession never leaves our dedication. When you may be a spectator or a reliable witness, it is our brotherhood and our devotion to a fellow officer that will prompt us to put ourselves in harms way yet again. Where have you been ? watch the news and see how often a retired officer comes to the aid of a shop owner and or a fellow officer! Hey im done with comments this will be my last. Vote for Chillary the pants suit junky.

  4. As far as I know there is no designation on the number of firearms that can be concealed at one time on one person. The law seems to relate only to a single firearm without restriction to multiple.

  5. Can anyone tell me the page of the CCL where it states how MANY firearms can be legally carried in Illinois at a time? The word “firearm” was mentioned a hundred times or more, in fact, on my CCL the word “firearm” is mentioned 6 times. Firearm is singular. The illinois state police aren’t sure, my instructor stll can’t find the law’s wording on it, BUT he has his “opinion” as we all do, so just the page and paragraph of the law please.

  6. Tony M. – P.O. RET. You’re still here on mother Earth. The Crackers as you originally called them didn’t full-fill a grudge. I never said you didn’t have a right to have a conceal-carry firearm. All I said is police officers off duty and retired officers need to follow the law just like everyone else. which means you have to comply with the conceal carry law and have the papers to show you have that right to carry.

    As for Ron’s statement, about police officers being trained. They haven;t been trained to the conceal-carry requirement of the new law. and as for a background check. Illinois is a foid card state. anyone with a foid card has had a background check. Therefore, using Ron’s logic everyone in the state of Illinois already has the right to conceal-carry because we have already passed the foid card requirement.

    You guy are still trying to tell me you don’t think your special, but none of you want to comply with the law. You guys still think everyone else should comply with this law, but Police officers. You guys are killing me with this double-standard logic of yours.

    Lets put this in simple terms. If Police Officer are unwilling to comply with the cost/requirements of the conceal-carry laws. Then why should anyone else give a f@#k about these laws. If you guys are not willing to comply with these laws when off duty or retired. Your sending the message that you want special treatment. That these laws are a waste of your time and money. Everyone else is looking at your actions of non-compliance and saying to themselves “If the cops don’t give a f@#k about this law. then why should I have to follow this f@#king law?”

    Think about that. Your actions of non-compliance and special treatment send the clearest of messages that these laws are a joke. The Police force can’t and don’t want to comply with the these laws. What kind of example is that from the men and women that are suppose to be enforcing the laws. You can’t be bothered with complying with the law your task with enforcing. It is that simple of an issue. If you can’t be bothered with compliance with the law. then we the people don’t need to be bothered or comply with that law.

    1. Think about what your talking about. The police are pre vetted licensed an in most states required to carry off duty. (Most are never off duty just not working) In retirement they carry for self defense from bad guys they could have helped to put away

  7. YES FRANTZIE BABY I MADE THE MISTAKE COMING OUT WITHOUT MY OFF DUTY BECAUSE I WAS DRESSED UP TO HAVE DINNER WITH MY FAMILY AND WAS THE ONLY MALE AT MY TABLE! THE CRACKER IS THE GUY I PUT IN PRISON FOR CARRYING A LOADED 45 IN A SHOULDER HOLSTER AND DEALING DRUGS WITHIN 1000FT. OF A SCHOOL. BUT YOU WOULDNT UNDERSTAND THAT MY CONCERN WAS HAVING TO WALK TO THE CAR KNOWING THERE WERE 4 GUYS THAT MAY WISH TO FILL A GRUDGE. IM DONE WITH THIS I DIDNT REALIZE THIS WAS JUST ANOTHER SITE FOR PEOPLE TO HIDE AND THROW ROCKS. THIS IS MY LAST MSG. I WILL DELETE THIS FILE. GOOD BYE WHO EVER YOU ARE. I STATED FACTS. NOT RUMOR. YOU CLEARLY HAVE A GRUDGE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT. AND CHOSE TO VENT ON THIS SITE. PROBABLY DO A GOOD JOB ON FACEBOOK TOO. ANOTHER SITE WHERE PEOPLE CAN HIDE BEHIND THE KEYBOARD. LIKE THE COUNTRY SONG SAYS “IM DONE”

  8. Hilario P
    Right which is a policy of you department. You were not forced by law to carry that gun. Because it is a policy of most police departments and not a law. There is nothing that said you can’t be required to have the same papers while off duty as any other citizen carrying a conceal weapon.

    Tell me this if you carried you badge around off duty and flashed it around could you get into trouble? There isn’t any crime, nothing is in play that needs a police officer, but your flashing your badge around to let people know your an off duty cop. Could you get into trouble with your department?

    If you could/can get into trouble for flashing you badge around off duty. Then that means there is a limitation of when that badge can be used. If the badge can have a limitation then carry you issued firearm can have a limitation. If you are carrying your personal firearm instead of the issued firearm. Then there should be a limitation on your personal firearm because it is not part of your job. Therefore you should have to have the same papers as anyone else to carry your personal firearm in public.

    1. THE REASON FOR A CCW IS TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC. YOU HAVE TO BE TRAINED,HAVE A BACK GROUND CHECK, AND THEN PAY FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF PROTECTING YOUR SELF !
      IN IL. THAT COST $600+ (MY STATE IT IS $50) CAN YOU SAY RIP OFF ?
      A POLICEMAN HAS ALREADY BEEN TRAINED, HAD HIS BACKGROUND CHECKED! WHY SHOULD HE HAVE TO PAY THIS RIDICULOUS $600+ RIP OFF ?

  9. Tony M. Your old P.O. saying makes it sound like you did something wrong with the Cracker at the dinner. You were the one that was concerned about them staring at you and your family.

    I think you missed the point of what my father was telling me. Every job has a some type of sh.t you have to stand in. If you are not willing to pay the price of standing in that sh.t that come with that job. Then don’t take that job.

    If you don’t want to take a chance at being shot at. Then don’t become a Police officer, or join the military. That is some of the sh.t that comes with the job, but you think because the sh.t of your job is special you shouldn’t have to follow the same laws everyone else has to because you sh.;t is special. It is not special, it just part of your job.

    Therefore, because you took the job, knowing that, that sh;t, was part of it. You have no reason to be treated special. All thing being equal. If we follow your logic everyone can claim special treatment because of the specific sh.t of their job.

  10. Tony M.-P.O. Ret
    You are so right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Thank you!

  11. Dear Frantz
    I never said anything about being special. In Texas when I was a police officer I had to carry my gun at all times when I was away from home. It was part of our SOP. We could get laid of with out pay if we did not have our guns with us. We were to told to take action if a major crime was committed in our presents or view.
    I am retired and I am complying to the federal law. Please read H.R. 218: The law enforcement officers Safety Act of 2004.
    I am a combat vet 1967-1969. I do not thank anyone should carry a fully automatic weapon.
    I can not speak for every officer but I did not make the above law but I Have had to us my hand gun to protect someone from being killed by her boy friend ,within the last year. I thank the lady was very happy i was around and carrying a gun!

  12. HELLO THERE SIR, I QUALIFY EVERY 6MOS. 100 ROUNDS DAY AND 100RDS. NIGHT WITH FLASHLIGHT AS REQUIRED BY MY STATE. THE QUALIFICATION GOES ON FILE WITH OUR STATE POLICE FIREARMS UNIT. IF I FAIL TO QUALIFY EVERY 6MOS. MY RIGHT TO CARRY RETIRED GETS PULLED. EVERY 6MOS. IT IS VERY INTERESTING THAT THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE OPPOSED TO US NOT BEING MANDATED TO TAKE A CLASS THAT IS LESS INFORMATIVE THAN OUR EXTENSIVE TRAINING. MAYBE THERE ARE STILL SOME SMALL TOWN POLICE DEPTS. OUT THERE THAT MAKE BULLET HOLES IN A TARGET WITH A PENCIL BUT I DONT EXPECT TOO MANY DUE TO THE LIABILITY OF TODAY. THE LOWEST POLICE TRAINING IS MORE THAN AN NRA INSTRUCTOR IS REQUIRED TO TEACH. WELL I MADE MY CASE AND IM DONE WITH THIS THERE WILL ALWAYS BE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT GIVE A SELECT FEW OFFICERS A BUM WRAP. JUDGE THE MANY BY THE FEW. I PAY FOR MY PERMITS EVEN MY RIGHT TO PROTECT MYSELF AND MY FAMILY AFTER PUTTING PEOPLE IN PRISON I HAVE MY PRINTS ON FILE STATE AND FEDERAL I QUALIFY TWICE A YEAR AND HAVE TO PROVE IT AND BECAUSE I DONT HAVE TO SIT IN A CLASS THAT TEACHES ME SAFETY WITH FIREARMS AND HOW TO SECURE MY WEAPON IM GETTING SPECIAL ATTENTION. THE PUBLIC DOES NOT DO A MANDATORY 2 YEARS IN JAIL IF THEIR FIREARM IS AVAILABLE TO A JUVENILE BUT AS A LEO I DO 2 YEARS IN JAIL MANDATORY EVEN IF NOBODY IS INJURED WITH THAT FIREARM BECAUSE I AM HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD THAN THE PUBLIC. I HOPE FOR THE OPEN MINDED PERSONS ON THIS BLOG, I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. BY THE WAY I HAVE NEVER OPPOSED THE HONEST AMERICAN TO CARRY A LAWFULLY OBTAINED FIREARM. AS I HAVE STATED, I NEVER FELT THREATENED BY ANYONE CARRYING A FIREARM IN THE BEAUTIFUL STATE OF VA. OR FLORIDA. IT SADDENS ME THAT OTHER STATES HAVE NOT FIGURED OUT THAT CRIME GOES DOWN WHEN MORE HONEST CITIZENS ARE ALLOWED TO PURCHASE AND PROPERLY CARRY A FIREARM. ANTI GUNNERS STAND ON A FALSE PRETEXT THAT IF ITS ALLOWED, IT WILL TURN INTO THE WILD WILD WEST. THIS COULDNT BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH. MONTANA,WYOMING,TEXAS,COLORADO,UTAH TO MENTION A FEW. GOOD NIGHT AND BE SAFE.

  13. I take a fire arms test every year so I can carry a hand gun. Look up H.R. 218: Law enforcement officers safety act of 2004. I can only carry if I qualify every year. How often do CC qualify.

  14. FOR 1 THING A CCW PERMIT IN IL IS OVER $600 TO START WITH (WHAT A RIP OFF) AND A COP HAS ALREADY PASS THE TEST.

  15. I HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU IN MANY CASES. THE LAST CLASS I TOOK AT FRONT SITE WAS 4 DAY DEFENSIVE HANDGUN CLASS I WOULD RECOMMEND. IT COVERED ALL THE BASICS AND SHOOTING 600+ ROUNDS OF AMO. AT VARIOUS TARGETS .
    I WAS ALWAYS A GOOD BOY AFTER I GOT MARRIED BECAUSE MY WIFE WAS A BETTER SHOT. SHE SAID I COULD HIT HER ANYTIME I THOUGHT I COULD OUT RUN A BULLET, (HA-HA)

    I’M TOO OLD TO FIGHT, TOO SLOW TO RUN THEREFORE I CARRY!

  16. I AGREE WITH YOUR LETTER. YOU ARE TRAINED BETTER THAN MOST PEOPLE.
    I ALSO FACE THE DOOR, AND I STAY AWARE OF MY SURROUNDINGS. AND I WOULD PROBABLY BE SAFER WITH YOU NEXT TO ME. BUT HOW SAFE WOULD I BE IF YOU WERE 30 MIN. AWAY?

    I’M TOO OLD TO FIGHT, TOO SLOW TO RUN, THEREFORE I CARRY !

  17. All I have to say to Tony M’s comment is: Did the Crackers do anything but stare at you during the dinner? What makes that any didn’t from anyone else being stared at, at a dinner because of something they may have done?

    As my late father once said “If you don’t want to stand ankle deep in animal sh.t for the rest of your life, don’t become a livestock farmer. What you describe above is the sh.t you have to stand in because you decide to become a police officer.

    It is a myth that police officers active, or retired have a greater threat to there person off the job then anyone else. There is a higher suicide rate for police officers then there is revenge attack against police officers.

    As far as I’m concerned Police officers should have to use the same laws off the job as everyone else to carry a gun.

    1. FUNNY THING FRANTZ P.O.”S HAVE A SAYING TO COMBAT YOUR DADS OL SAYING. IF YOU HAVENT DONE ANYTHING WRONG?? THEN WHAT ARE YOU AFRAID OF? IT ALWAYS COMES OUT LATER WHEN THE CITIZEN BAD MOUTHS THE GENERAL POPULAS OF POLICE OFFICERS, THEY HAD A BAD EXPERIENCE AND PUT ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS IN THE SAME POOL. BY GOD WHERE WOULD WE BE IF ALL LEOS THOUGHT THE SAME.? FOR YOUR INFORMATION AND THE OTHER SKEPTICS THAT
      (shhot from the hip) I IN FACT HAVE 2 CC PERMITS 1 FOR VA. AND 1 FOR FL. SO THAT I MAY CARRY IN THOSE STATES THE FIREARM OF MY CHOICE INSTEAD OF A GLOCK 40 TO WHICH I AM REQUIRED TO CARRY WHILE IN TRANSIT AND NOT IN MY HOME STATES. BY THE WAY I JUST REQUALIFIED SO THAT I MAY CONTINUE AS RETIRED LAST WEEK 100RDS. DAY AND NIGHT FIRE AND SHOT A 95. I HAVE COMPLIED WITH THE GUIDELINES HOWEVER THERE IS NOTHING FURTHER WE AS POLICE OFFICERS CAN LEARN FROM AN NRA INSTRUCTOR. OUR TRAINING IS MUCH MORE EXTENSIVE EVEN IN THE ACADEMY. AND BY THE WAY I HAVE TO PAY FOR MY PERMITS TOO AS OTHERS. I DONT GET FINGER PRINTED BECAUSE MY PRINTS ARE ALREADY IN FILE STATE AND FEDERAL! SO WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR BEEF?

  18. You are, by your own description, a very unusual LEO. I’d have no problem with you getting a CCW license. But most cops do not have your history or experience. In any case, why do you think you should have special privileges? How hard would it be for you to take the standard CCW class for your state like everyone else does?

  19. I REALLY THINK YOU ARE SO OUT OF TOUCH! I WAS A P.O. FOR 29YRS. COVERED MANY CATAGORIES OF THE PROFESSION FROM BEAT COP TO DET. IN NARCOTICS AND WARRANTS. TO FATAL ACCIDENT INV. I WAS CLASSED AN EXPERT MARKSMAN FOR MY WHOLE CAREER. WHEN ATTACKS STARTED HAPPENING TO PRIVATE ESTABLISHMENTS AND SCHOOLS, I WAS CHOSEN TO BE PART OF A 4 MAN RESPONSE TEAM. WE TRAINED IN BUILDINGS AND SCHOOLS WHEN THEY WERE CLOSED. WE HAD TO REACT IN A SPLIT SECOND TO A THREAT. HAVE YOU EVER HAD A FAMILY MEMBER AT A DINNER SAY WHY ARE THOSE OTHER PEOPLE AT THE TABLE STARRING AT US? WELL THE FACT IS ONE OF THE CRACKERS AT THE TABLE DID 2YRS. IN PRISON AND HE JUST REALIZED WHO I WAS. HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT I HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH THE SAME HOOPS AS A SCHOOL TEACHER THAT CARRIED A RED MARKING PEN OR A MECHANIC THAT GREW UP AROUND TOOLS MOST HIS LIFE? WE PUT ON A FIREARM EVERY DAY OF OUR PROFESSION AND TOOK AN OATH TO PROTECT PEOPLE SUCH AS YOU. DO YOU REALLY THINK BECAUSE WE WALK OUT ON THAT LAST DAY WE FORGET ALL WE HAVE DONE AND BEEN TRAINED TO DO? IF SO YOU REALLY ARE COMPLETELY OUT OF TOUCH. I STILL SIT FACING A DOOR AND STILL TO THIS DAY MAKE MY FAMILY WALK AHEAD IN A PARKING LOT. DOES A RETIRED SCHOOL TEACHER STOP LOOKING FOR MISPELLED WORDS IN A NEWS PAPER OR THE MECHANIC STOP FIXING HIS OWN CAR??

  20. I understand your point of view; however, I don’t share it, and the reason is my knowledge of LEOs and their level of training. Most LEOs, whether retired or not, are not “gun guys” and have minimal training, or even experience, in gun handling. They are also typically unaware of the specifics of the gun laws they have to enforce, which is a major reason why there have been so many incidents with citizens legally “open carrying,” who were falsely arrested or otherwise hassled by police. Also modern police have minimal training, and almost no incentive, to render first aid if you are injured. Watch the LEOs at an accident or crime scene, and you will virtually never see one provide first aid, even if people are bleeding out at the scene. I understand that this is usually the result of their specific training and SOPs, but that is my point. You would probably be better served if you needed help, of whatever kind, by encountering a military vet, especially a combat vet, than an LEO. The idea that the police have had some sort of special training that makes them better with guns than the average civilian is simply erroneous. Go to any tactical gun class and you will likely find the best shots in the class are civilians. In the one I attended, the best shots in the class were a grandmother and a civilian guy, who both outshot a Navy SEAL. The 2 worst shots in the class, who could barely keep their rounds on a silhouette target at all, were married police officers from a major city PD (and they were among the few police who actually were interested enough to take a tactical shooting class at their own expense). So the idea that police are either uniquely competent or better trained at gun handling/shooting than the average civilian simply doesn’t wash with me.

  21. Hilario P I think you missed the point. Police officers are not a special class of people. Once they are off the job they are not working for the State, and have no State protection for their action. If they are retired, then they are not working for the State. They are just citizens.
    Therefore, they should have to comply just like any other citizen.

    Look at this from a different angle. If you’ve been in the military you have been trained to operate full automatic weapons. If we apply the same standard to military personnel that the police have. Then retired military personnel should have the right to own full automatic weapons after they have left the military. Military personnel do not have that right.

    Nothing special about the police. They should have to follow the same rules everyone else has to when they are off the job, or retired. there is no reason for the police to have special rules for them.

  22. I would rather have a fully trained police officer or a retired police officer with many years of training to come to my aid then someone with only a few days of training.
    Please do not get me wrong. I thank the every law a bidding person in this country has the right to carry a gun to protect them selfs and others.

  23. With respect to Frantz’ last comment, I believe there is nothing special about an off-duty LEO that JUSTIFIES carring concealed w/o following all of the requirements of the rest of the law abiding citizens of the particular state or community..
    Secondly, what is the status of reciprocity agreements w/ other states/ jurisdictions? If Ill. follows California’s lead, Ill will not engage in any reciprocity agreementsd w/ any othe state.

    1. Currently the only nonresident CCW holders that can get an Illinois CCW are from Hawaii….yeah go figure! As to what other states are honoring the Illinois CCW I’m not sure since so few have made it into the hands of Illinois residents.

  24. Because Illinois is one of the few states to have a foid card requirement. A person of the State shouldn’t need a permit. Maybe a sticker attached to the foid card to show that you have completed concealed carry training should be all that is required.

    Looking at it from another view the conceal carry is just another form of taxing again the individual for using their 2 amendment right.

    I don’t believe police and retired police should have any waver on concealed carry. When they are not on the job they should be required to followed the law just like everyone else. There is nothing special about the police that requires a waver.

  25. Everyone should know if you take the guns away from the crooks and give them to the good guys with legal permits the crime rate will drop

  26. I also would like to know, is it now legal to drive thru Illinois with a loaded hand gun in your vehicle if you have a permit to do so from another state?

  27. I’d expect to see a continuation of the violent crime rates for the next year or two at least, the same as we have seen occurring everywhere else after the enactment of CCW type laws. In fact, since Chicago is more like Detroit than the rest of the USA, I’d expect to see the rise of armed resistance to “hot” home invasions, and a particular drop in the associated assaults, rapes, murders, etc.
    On a different, but related topic, I’d like to point out that, if we threw out all the federal gun laws now in existence, we would not be returning to the days of the “Old West” as so many people keep saying, but rather to the days of the Vietnam War and the Hippy movement. With the exception of the law requiring a special tax on fully automatic guns, short-barreled rifles/shotguns, and “silencers,” all the current federal gun control laws were passed in 1968 or later. I’m old enough to be a Vietnam veteran, and I grew up without all the current laws, and also without any unusual level of “gun violence” in the society.

  28. I believe time will tell. Here in Cook County we are still just recovering from the brutal winter. Let’s revisit the question in June and July, when those who commit violent crime, emerge from their holes and start their assaults on our fair city and its citizens. We have already had at least two reports that fall on both sides of the CC debate. One where assailants tried to rob an off duty law enforcement officer, the other where a legal CCL carrier had an altercation with a tenant. The state has made provisions around being a legal CC liscensee so restrictive, its depressing. You almost feel like doing what the criminals do, and carry illegally. But to some degree I feel that’s what the state wants so you can help contribute to our state’s cash strapped coffers.

    1. No – “Everyone who wants to carry a concealed firearm on his/her person in Illinois is required to have an Illinois Concealed Carry License except current peace officers and retired police officers eligible under a federally approved retired officer concealed carry program such as the Illinois Retired Officer Concealed Carry (IROCC) Program. Retired officers may be eligible to carry under either the IROCC Program or the Firearm Concealed Carry Act (430 ILCS 66). ” – https://www.isp.state.il.us/appriss/ccw/ccw-faq.cfm

  29. Just for context mine came in the mail today. It has been a long hard fight with many trips to Springfield. It’s sad that our bar has been set so low that many including myself are greatful the day has come. I can only hope that in few years we will continue down the road of achieving parity with other states. Our final goal should be a national reciprocity to force NY AND CALIFORNIA to choke on the freedom the great majority live under. Freedom is sweet once tasted and bitter when taken away. We must lead people to freedom even if they are afraid to step out in the sun.

    1. ROBERT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY VERY TASTEFULLY SAID SIR. GOOD LUCK AND BE WELL WITH YOUR NEW LONG DESERVED CARRY PERMIT. AS YOU KNOW I CARRY ON MY RETIRED BADGE HOWEVER I HAVE A CONCEALED CARRY FOR MY NEW HOME STATE OF VA. BY DOING SO I CAN CARRY ANY WEAPON I CHOOSE WHEN IN MY HOME STATE. WHEN IN TRANSIT I MUST CARRY MY GLOCK 40CAL AS GUIDELINES SET FORTH.

  30. I do not mean to offend anybody here and personally find no offensiveness in the appearance of the men pictured in the article. I do feel that you could have found two or more people that look a bit more middle of the road. Do y’all know what I mean. Publicity works two ways, eh. Thanks for all you do. Please, folks, no offense meant. Dorien

  31. The murder rate in San Antonio Texas at one time was over 200 a year . Because of our concealed hand law, That number is under one hundred.
    I have carried a gun as a officer and a citizen for over 43 years and I have never shot anyone but I would to protect my life our someone else.

  32. Maybe it is because it has been a long cold winter, but I have not heard anything reported on reciprocity with other states.

    1. As someone who grew up in Illinois and still has most of my family there, I’ve been monitoring the situation closely. Winter has nothing to do with it. This is the state’s further attempt to regulate the 2nd amendment.

    2. Here are the States that recognize the IL CCL http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_carry_permit_reciprocity_maps.html
      IL doesn’t recognize any other States License. And it’s BS that their not dragging their feet. Right now they don’t except paper applications every bit of documentation has to be converted to electronic form your training certificate , a State digital ID. A digital photo that they don’t use they use your IL DL photo just like they do with your FOID card but you still have to send in the digital photo. Paper won’t be available till June or July so if your not computer savvy you can’t apply. Mine has been in the process since 01/08/14 and when I check it as of today 04/12/14 it’s still under review and the process didn’t start on time 01/01/14 they delayed it till 01/05/14. The guy who wrote this must be one of Rahms drinking buddies.

    3. I’d have to agree with James, I’ve submitted mine Jan 5th and still under review. No criminal back ground and still waiting. The ONLY reason they allowed CC was because they were forced to and they make it as painful and costly as they can. They throw out a piece of scrap and the people are happy. This state is the worst state and I wish I had the funds to move out.

  33. I AGREE $50 IS MORE THAN ENOUGH! BUT IF I LIVED IN THAT HELL HOLE IT WOULD PROBABLY BE WORTH THE $600 ! BUT I LIVE IN OREGON, AND THE PERMIT COST $50 !

    I’M TOO OLD TO FIGHT, TOO SLOW TO RUN, THEREFORE I CARRY !!

  34. Illinois is making some progress, but the only people outside of Illinois that can get an Illinois CCW are residents of Hawaii!!! Really? Supposedly all the other state’s CCW laws aren’t close enough to the Illinois law to allow non-residents to obtain an Illinois CCW. Mind you that non-resident CCW holders can have a weapon in the vehicle in Illinois, but if you are carrying on your person, you are illegal if you get out of the vehicle. That’s going to make for some sticky car stops!

  35. This is funny because Illinois is still doing all they can to stop or at least slow the issue of the carry permits. Lisa Madigan will continue as long as she can get away with it. $600 for a permit when it’s not costing them over $50. NOW YOU SEE WHY I GOT OUT FOR THAT STATE. The mayor of Chicago and her father in Springfield pull all the strings there. King Richard left and appointed the new Ruler. He sure wasn’t elected….

  36. The framers stated “shall not be infringed” for a reason. It means the gov can not make any gun laws that infringe, so all gun laws, whether good or bad, are unconstitutional. All gun laws should be repealed for that reason. All attempts at new gun laws should be stopped because they obviously “infringe” gun ownership. It’s clear to me that Jefferson choose his words carefully, so future government criminals could not worm around them. We must insist that all gun laws are unconstitutional and therefore be sent to the supreme court – over time they will stop trying to create new laws.

  37. As a born and bread Chicago and Chicagoland native, I feel that the crime rates will continue to drop. I have been the victim of some, and witness to many crimes in my beloved hometown. Many , if not most of them were committed by a younger, immature demographic. The idea that the person they are about to wrong may be armed and willing to fight back will probably put them on their heels. It functions as an effective deterrent, and it makes me feel better to know my mother has her trusty J frame 38 special just in case.

  38. As a Chicagoland resident, I too am pleased that the State police are not dragging thier feet on this! However, the reduction in crime in Chicago for the first quarter is more likely due to the harsh winter this year.

  39. Illinois great (expensive)CCL is not reciprocal with other states. You have to spend over $300 (plus motel costs) to come to Illinois and apply for the Illinois license, take their 2 day course (with 150 rounds of ammo). Yet other states have given the Illinois residents CCL reciprocity. This of course is typical of the Chicago dummycrat political crowd that controls Illinois and who are PO’d that the Supreme’s forced the 2d Amendment on them.

  40. You should have come on down to Texas. We have less crime and taxes along with a booming economy along with great opportunities. We also have friendly neighbors, that pack heat, along with fences that makes for better neighbors.

    We love our firemen, police, soldiers and America. We are not ashamed to say it either. Of course if you happen to stop in Austin, be advised that the liberals from New Yawk have taken over and it’s different from the rest of Texas.

    Oh, I almost forgot , we have a Castle Doctrine that allows you to use a weapon in defense of your home, life or property. Ya’ll come visit us sometime..

  41. Well as indicated I was a P.O. for 29 years in the NJ. Strong where concealed carry is a very bad phrase! The state of NJ is over burdened with laws that do not work! It really is a shame that the politicos sircum to the anti gun people. I often told the public on the QT of course to avoid superiors actions that 3 P.O’s do not keep 15,000 people safe. I’ve since sold my house and moved to VA, where almost everyone carries a firearm. I’ve never felt so safe as I do now! Everyone should be allowed to meet force with the same force!

  42. I believe in due time the concealed carry right will have a positive effect on crime in Illionois, but the fact that it is still fresh and new has no impact on the figures stated. Chicago Magazine states that the books hav e been cooked on this issue, to suit Mayor Rom Emanuel, who said he didn’t want to see those high numbers again. Reportedly, they have failed to count as many as 19 homicides in 2013, and about 1/4 of victems of agg assault & battery did not get counted in Chicago police statistics for 2012, because police didn’t count each person in a crime involving multiple victoms as a separate offense. Because of the findings of an audit report, police have aggreed to at least review all the agg assaults in 2012/2013, and count every victom. This will still not bring the numbers to accuracy, because the city has aggresively re-classified homicides, after homicides topped th 500 mark in 2012. There were incodents of people burned to death, shot to death, individuals being tied up, cocooned in garbage, hidden in a mattress, noneof these crimes were classified as homicides. They don’t count in the official statistics. Chicago Magazine says there will be much more on this in the June issue, because there is much more on this story to be told.

  43. That’s how it is here in the Ozark Mountains of Arkansas. Everybody does concealed or open carry. Last week we had a good turn out for the Open Carry Walk in Eureka Springs. Crime rate is very low. I don’t even keep up with it. Thieves and burglars know, that if they break into a house, they’ll probably be met by an armed resident. That’s how it’s been even before concealed and open carry laws. Any thug walking around with his butt hanging out of his pants, is likely to get a foot put in it too.

  44. my fellow americans, every law abbiding person should carriy daily, a lawful weapon. used properly crime would be out of business. open carry should be legal anywhere a weapon is legal to possess. let scum know you are prepared to defend. know your rights, use your right of defense. there are those that will relieve you of yours. practice double tap!! do you really believe crime waits for law enforcement to arrive?

  45. Every place where concealed carry has been allowed has shown a drop in crime, often a very significant drop. the odds have always favored the bad guy, now it ain’t necessarily so.

    1. The letter before “NECK” looks more like an “R” than a “D”. My guess would be LEATHERNECK MC

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