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Haters Gonna Hate, but Glocks Live On

Glock 19 9mm

I love guns made of steel. Whether it is a 1911, CZ 75, or a Beretta 92, steel framed handguns feel great in my hand. However, I’m not going to say there is no place for plastic guns. For all day duty carry, saving even one extra pound hanging off your hip makes a huge difference. Glocks, being one of the most prevalent plastic polymer handguns on the market, have plenty of detractors. After thumbing through the comments some shooters have about Glocks, I concluded that the sensible arguments are not necessarily wrong, but most of them are not 100 percent correct either.

That’s One Ugly Gun

Glock 19 9mm
Glock 19 9mm

This is the most common argument I see with these guns. They all look-alike, and they’re all ugly. I’m not going to pretend that a firearm’s aesthetics mean nothing when I’m shopping for a new gun, in fact the aesthetics is what draws many buyers toward certain guns in the first place. I’ve even seen my wife buy a gun based solely on the fact it was pretty. However, I consider Glocks to be like a chainsaw or a power drill. They are a utilitarian piece of hardware that fills an intended role. Given the fact that it will be used for daily carry and probably see a fair amount of wear and tear, I don’t care if it happens to look like a 1970s AMC Gremlin with hail damage.

This Thing Feels Weird in My Hand

This particular argument is one I used to have myself. I grew up shooting 1911s and I was more accustomed to a flatter back and higher trigger. However, after a few boxes of shells and a little patience, I quit crying and adjusted just fine. There is a noticeable amount of tilting forward you have to do to get used to it, but it isn’t that big of a deal. Every gun is a little different—firing an AR is not like firing an AK. For novice shooters who don’t have years of bad habits ingrained into their shooting routine, the infamous Glock grip angle is a non-issue. Like most things, it just takes practice.

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I Just Don’t Like the Trigger

This argument is not necessarily wrong, but this is by design. The factory trigger on a Glock is long and heavy, especially when compared to a single action trigger. That long trigger is actually a safety mechanism. Glock explains this in a flyer:

Glock incorporated the trigger safety into the trigger in the form of a lever and when in the forward position, blocks the trigger from moving rearward. To fire the pistol, you must deliberately depress the trigger safety and the trigger itself at the same time. If the trigger safety is not depressed, the trigger will not move rearward and allow the pistol to fire.

You might be saying that just because it is a safety feature doesn’t mean the trigger should creak like a rusty gate. To be honest, it really doesn’t. Factory Glock triggers seem to vary between 4.5 and 5.5 pounds. While there is some noticeable creak, the triggers are lighter than most double action pulls on revolvers as well as the majority of double action only semi-autos. After a decent break-in period, I developed a trusting relationship with this type of trigger design—I learned exactly where it breaks. If all that seems like too much trouble, after market triggers are great and yield much lighter trigger pulls.

Don’t Glocks Explode?

Glock 19 Right Side
Glock 19

No, not really. However, there have been instances where Glocks have failed to contain cartridge ignitions. This was usually with Gen 1 and Gen 2 Glocks in .40 caliber chamberings. These models lacked full case support and thus were poor choices for hand-loaded cartridges. This would normally not be a problem but the standard .40 Smith & Wesson is inherently a higher pressure round. The vast majority of the failures are from home or factory reloaded .40 caliber cartridges. In other words, someone loaded the cartridge with an excessive amount of powder and the gun exploded. Can most other firearms suffer from catastrophic failure when loaded with non-factory over-pressured ammunition? Absolutely. While Glock does say that occasionally firing hotter rounds through their handguns is fine, a steady diet of handloaded or factory +P or +P+ ammunition will put too much wear and tear on the internal functions. Generally speaking, Glocks like eating regular factory ammo.

There is no denying that Glocks have their outspoken haters. It is my opinion that most of these folks are simply inexperienced, misguided, or have not given them a chance. I’m not saying that they are the perfect gun for everyone, but they certainly do a fine job for most. When novice shooters ask me what type of handgun they should buy, I usually respond with the same answer. Just get a Glock and be done with it.

Do you have a Glock? Share your experiences with us in the comment section.

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Comments (47)

  1. I started of with the (un)venerable Ruger P89, at least 1 FTF/E every mag dump. Bought a Beretta 92, loved it, so I bought a 96, loved that one a little more. Then, a couple years later, I had a friend who was selling his G23. Never looked back. I now own 3 G23’s, one of which is my IWB EDC, and I am probably 1 of the very few who actually LIKE the Glock’s aesthetics! Yes, I think the 1911 is a sexy beast, but, if I can’t count on it going bang every time, what good is it to me? Especially when you consider that a decent 1911 goes for twice what a Glock does! No thanks.

  2. Lone Wolf makes a trigger assembly that has an aluminum trigger shoe that is smooth and rounded at the edges with a safety that pulls in flush with the trigger so you don’t have the safety extended forward of the trigger and you don’t have the serrations which are the biggest annoyance. The whole assembly is polished for smooth operation and is a whole lot cheaper than a Zev trigger, which is like butter but half the cost of the gun itself.

  3. I have owned and own several brand and caliber hand guns. I recently purchased a Gen4, Glock 19. I like the gun except for the trigger safety. It irritates my finger tip I tried my friends 17 and it does the same thing. He also experiences this. If anyone has any suggestions I would love to hear them. Otherwise, the gun functions very well but nothing out shoots my 1911 45 or FNS 45.

    1. David, my wife had the same problem with her Glock 19 Gen 4. She just hated practicing with it because it hurt her trigger finger. I purchased and installed a ‘Pyramid’ trigger from the Glock Store. (no, I’m not getting paid for this) It comes with approx 3.5 lbs pull but is easily adjustable to your taste. The big advantage for her is that the trigger shoe is wider and lots more comfortable. Hope this helps.

  4. I own a 19 and a 20. I love both of mine, but I recently had a kaboom due to that exact support problem in my 20, so i will be replacing the barrel.

    I love my Glocks, but I would warn anyone who handloads that they need a new barrel.

    1. I have several handguns including 2Glocks. Both are model 23 one in .45 and one in 10mm. I wouldn’t trade either of them. No gun this nice can ever be called ugly.

  5. I have had my G23 for about 5 years now. Bought it brand new. Never once have I had a failure wether a fail to feed or fail to fire and it has several thousand rounds through it. I also have a Ruger LCR a M&P 9c AMD a Rock Island 1911. So far the only one I have had any trouble with is the 1911. I love my Glock it has been very reliable and very accurate since it came out of the box. It is the gun I carry when I’m camping nd riding 4 wheelers and dirt bikes because it will still fire with sort and sand in.it. I’ve tested the theory. I have also had several wrecks where I have landed on top of the gun and the only thing that was hurt was the bruises it left on me. I have no dedication to any one manufacturer but my Glock has proven itself to me time and again.

  6. I’m not a Glock hater, but I haven’t decided to buy one….yet. I keep kicking myself for selling an HK P9S. It was the smoothest and most accurate automatic pistol I have ever had. My S&W .357 revolver is the most accurate. Right now I have a SIG P226. Never had a ftf or fte. The gun feels good and shoots straight. Maybe someday I will own a Glock. Forums like this are good to stay aware of the options.

  7. I am currently looking to add another handgun to my collection. After discussions with a number of my Law Enforcement friends, I decided on a Glock. Appearance doesn’t matter to me since its purpose is going to be for concealment. “Ugly” is fine when it helps with making it more invisible to adversaries. I have two issues with the 26 and/or 27 I am considering: 1. The safety or lack of. I don’t like the idea of have to suck a round into the tube before I fire it. I have read that there is a trigger safety that requires pressing a release at the same time applying pressure to the trigger to place in fire mode. True or False I don’t know. I have not been able to get a clear understanding of this. 2. I understand that the standard sights are plastic. I am sure that someone makes good metallic sights with contrast for target and night shooting.
    For years I have carried a Ruger GA34 (Security Six) .357 revolver as well as a Garcia .380 auto. I would trust the Ruger with my life. It shoots accuracy each time I go to the range. The Garcia .380 is a fairly concealable pocket gun which I am sure most gun enthusiast would consider junk but it shoots great for a .380 at short range (20-25 feet). I welcome any and or comments of my decision on the Glock 26 and 27 selections. I am leaning towards the 27. Recoil is not an issue for me. I also shot a .44 mag Redhawk.

  8. I own a beautifully customized Mark IV Series 70, a Sig 226, Sig 230, numerous S&W revolvers in various calibers, a Glock 22 and a Glock 27, among others.

    When I want people to “ooh and ahhh” I show them my 1911 or my fully engraved, nickel 6″ Colt Python.

    I carry the G27 the most often and the G22 second, because they are the best choice to protect my life and those around me while being convenient to carry/conceal, while as reliable and effective as a sledgehammer. I’m 6’2″ and 230, so I don’t have a lot of trouble concealing a large handgun on my body, yet I still choose my more compact Glocks.

  9. I own a LOT of different brands/types of guns. With that said, I don’t TRUST safeties, nor do I ever USE safeties. You will never catch me carrying a concealed pistol in ‘cocked & locked’ condition. The only ‘safe’ mode by which I carry is full mag/nothing chambered. Fact is, I can draw and rack a slide as fast (or faster) than I can draw and release a safety. The slide is simply a much bigger target which I don’t have to fumble for in the dark. When I’m at the range, I practice this draw & rack and it’s fast.

    Just my personal preference, but I don’t like having a live round pointed at my jewels. As an engineer, I don’t trust a little piece of metal to save them. Comparing the two, there’s just NO WAY to have an accident when there’s nothing in the chamber. Ask any emergency room doctor or nurse and they all have a pile of stories about guys who’ve put bullets in their leg, ass, etc while trying to holster or draw a gun.

  10. I used to be “Anti-Glock” then I bought one. There are many things I do not like about them but I will say I do have a new-found respect for this firearm. Simple, Robust, easy to maintain, easy to shoot and dependable. Right out of the box it is a gun you can bet your life on and it is priced so low almost everyone can afford to own it. Do I wish it had a safety, yes. I don’t think a safety on the trigger is a safety. Do I like steel frame guns…yes, BUT saving weight with plastic is great on a carry gun, and if you carry a gun for duty or defense having the gun hot and ready using finger control and training as your safety also has its merits. Will I sell my 1911s, SIGs, and CZs … not in this life. Will I continue to carry my GEN3 Glock26, you bet!

  11. I ran across an interesting fact recently…it seems most pistols from most makers have been produced over the years with twist rates between 1:18 & 1:20. Because of improvements in ammo and long time studies, most are changing to a 1:10 twist. Since day 1 all Glocks have had a 1:10 twist, starting with the first G17. It seems the stories are true about Gaston Glock actually starting from square one, building a gun that’s based on research, simplicity, reliability, and needed performance.

  12. To SteveL #27: I understand Glock makes the parts in Austria and assembles in Smyrna, hence the dual origin stamp. I’ve been to the Glock facility in Smyrna and it’s impressive. I go every few years to have them check out my 11 year old G17 where they replace any worn parts, all for free and while I wait. After many 1,000’s of rounds nothing has needed replacement.

  13. MN Jarhead – The SOLE reason why the military uses Beretta is of course COST. Beretta was the low bidder and is forking over M9’s for about 30 bucks a pop… no kidding

    Of course they make up for the low initial cost by supplying parts to the armorers at near market rates. This means that an armorer requisitioning some new barrels through the supply chain has no idea that it would be cheaper to just requisition new guns.

    A ten dollar whore hustling a john is an upstanding business transaction when compared to military contractors wining and dining senators behind closed doors.

  14. Sure, those 1911’s are some really pretty girls… but like all the pretty ones, they are high maintenance. They are picky creatures that require constant attention lest they decide to have a “headache”. Having a beauty at your side may make you the envy of your friends, but they don’t know what you go through to keep her faithful. She’s a finicky eater and picky about what she wears. She has a compulsive need to always be clean and primped. She’s not the girl you want to take camping or 4-wheeling, because she’s prone to temper tantrums if she gets her hands dirty.

    Compare that to Glock. Glock ain’t what anyone would call pretty, but she “makes up for it” in other ways… you see, girls like her just try harder. She’s not particularly picky about what you feed her, and she really doesn’t mind working hard or getting muddy. You can clean, polish and dress her however you like, but she’ll never turn heads. But she will always be faithful… always.

    So when the chips are down and there’s serious, hard work to be done, which girl do you pick for the job? The answer is of course… the one with the biggest tits… um… I mean, the one that has the best qualifications!

  15. JimB,
    I understand you don’t like Glocks (why are you here?), but your arguement has one big flaw, shared by the clamoslice (#20). The reason the US military does not use Glock is simple… ALL US military weapons systems MUST have manual safeties! This is a slight disqualifier for Glocks.

    As for Mr. clamo, those of us who carry only out of a desire to take personal responsibility for our own safety, and that of those around us do NOT carry as an “adornment.” I’ve carried my G23 gen3 for six years, and shoot it every week in a league, where I shoot it fairly well. Even the most ardent 1911, etc. supporters I shoot with respect Glocks, even those who don’t personally care for them. They are the best VALUE for their price, simplicity, and legendary sanding-sheetrock-all-day-before-going-to-the-range-without-cleaning-RELIABILITY.

  16. Regarding #13, I have a G36 and a G21SF, both recent purchases NIB from a dealer. They both say “Made in Austria” on the frames, as well as Austria on the slides. They also say “Smyrna, GA” on the frame. I’m assuming that they were made in Austria, but #13 raises that question for me?

    Any help from JiminGa, or anyone else? Thanks – SteveL

  17. Sorry, I’m a hater. I’m not even indifferent or neutral. A bona-fide hater. And I don’t want to hear anyone else’s side of it.

    JGFLA – the BF109 was a beautiful airplane

  18. It’s a Prussian design, Messerschmitt BF-109’s weren’t pretty either but they were awfully effective until Adolf ran out of men.

  19. The Glock’s popularity with LE Agencies speaks HIGHLY of its value; because government expenditures on weapons are based on the, “Lowest Bid” and the fact that Glock wins so many bids while still garnering such respect and loyalty is very admirable. But, if you want to choose a weapon, go with the most competent professional-killers in the world, the US Armed Forces.
    US Armed Forces designation for the Beretta P-92 is the M9, and a partial list of agencies using this one, single model of Beretta can be found here:
    “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_92”
    The US Armed Forces designation for the Sig 228 is M11, a compact derivative of the SIG P226 which lost out to the Beretta in the US Armed Forces personal side-arm competition of the 1980’s because it was too expensive and could not be rapidly transitioned to high-volume production in the US. The P226 and 228 are used by the FBI, Seals, NCIS, CIA, Secret Service, DEA… organizations which are likely to use/need them to accomplish a critical mission that impacts society as a whole, and perhaps the course of human history.
    A partial list of agencies using only three models of SIG (226, 228, and 229) can be found here:
    “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIG_P226”
    Arguments for the popularity of the Glock product line can be found in Patrick Sweeney’s The Gun Digest Book of the Glock, where he states, “First, Glock manufactured—and still manufactures—unusually light guns, made out of plastic and other synthetic materials as well as metal. That makes them easy to carry, manipulate, and shoot. Second, and more important, Glocks held more ammunition than the standard-issue guns usually did at the time. With gang-driven gun violence rising, police departments decided to give the guns with the extra rounds a try. They caught on and then gained popularity in the consumer markets. (They also developed a particular cachet among criminals, then broader cultural recognition, including numerous citations in rap lyrics.) By 1996, Sweeney writes, Glock had sold more than 1 million guns in America.”

    In a 2009 story on Glock’s success, Bloomberg Business Week reported, “the company’s success might also be due to some questionable business practices. The company has come under fire, in a manner of speaking, for making secret political contributions. It has also been accused of dodging taxes and regulations through shell corporations. (Because the company is based in Europe and is privately held, it does not need to disclose nearly as much sales or legal information as a public U.S. company.)”
    Massad Ayoob provides additional insight into Glock’s success in the market here:
    “http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3197/is_5_49/ai_n6054266/”
    Unfortunately, I couldn’t find a US Armed Forces designation for any Glock model, but, a partial list of agencies using any of eight models of Glock can be found here: “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glock”
    There are folks out there still buying and successfully competing with the archaic Browning High Power, and it is still considered by some to be the best handling pistol ever made, and one of THE BEST PISTOLS period…

    But, if popularity lends credence to a firearm’s “best”-ness, then the Browning Model 1911 design trumps everything else on the market.

  20. Over twenty years ago, a friend of mine bought a new Glock. I thought he had lost his mind buying a weird plastic gun from Austria. It took me a long time to come around, but I did. This year, after doing tons of research, I found that my choices were Glock, Sig, or H&K. Out of those choices, the Glock won hands down. I purchased a .40 cal Glock 23 Gen4 and have never had a malfunction of any kind. It is flawless.

    Where else can you get “world class” quality and reliability for a third of the cost of the competition?

  21. I’ve owned many Glocks over the past 25 years or so, and although I am a big fan of Sig 220/226/229’s and 1911’s, I always seem to end up carrying one or the other of these 2 guns: G26/27 or a SW Bodyguard model 38. The .38 goes in a pocket, the Glock always rides in a holster. I’ve had many 1911’s, some reliable, some expensive, some cheap, some unreliable, each gun had to be vetted and shot to determine it’s worthiness. Magazines were touchy, certain ones worked, other didn’t. It was always a crapshoot, unless I wanted to spend hundreds on gunsmithing.The Sigs were another story. Very reliable,and accurate, but expensive, heavy and limited capacity vs. their size. Luckily, we still can have more than one handgun (for now). When I’ve had tighter finances and had to “thin the herd” there are a few that will always stay.Those are the Glocks (1 full-size, 1 compact) and the revolvers 1 4″ GP100/SW686 and a J frame. I’ve had to sell a few Glocks, and it’s a snap to buy another one just like it to replace it. Magazines, holsters and most importantly, the muscle memory transitions seamlessly to the new firearm. Same with the revolver.If I find myself in a position to have to sell my glocks again, I’d likely return to just a model 19/23 to split the difference. That mid-size is perfect for all around use.

  22. I’ve got a G19 I bought in the 80’s when they first hit the US market. 10K+ rounds through it never a FTF with the exception of a bad magazine (replaced by the dealer a few days after the purchase) and some crappy reloads I was sloppy with seating and crimping. My next Glock was a G22 I picked up sometime shortly after the Brady Bill became law and except for the nation wide waiting period I never experienced a problem with it. A few years ago I sold it (yes they do hold a lot of value) to buy a slightly smaller G23 which I carry almost every day and like the Glocks before it I’ve run several thousand rounds through without a single FTF. Not long after that because I have to travel to states that frown on ‘importing’ > 10 round magazines I picked up a G30 and have never had a problem with it.

    I’ve done the low cost trigger job with a Dremmel tool and Flitz on the G23 & G30 which made them shoot as smooth as the G19 with it’s 10K+ rounds through it. I wish I would have known how to do my own trigger job when I bought that one.

    I’ve shot a lot of superb 1911’s in the last couple of decades but what pushed me toward Glock back in the 80’s was the absolutely crappy military 1911’s I had been issued previously.

  23. I guess you can call me a hater. Glocks stink unless you feel that a gun is an adorment you wear to intimidate civilians, for which this gun is well suited, i.e. you are a cop.
    Non cops who like this gun are weird, others are paid to carry it. I am not paid to shoot or carry a gun, so I own a gun that is great to shoot and I can hit something with it.
    The choice is not just between steel and plastic. There is aluminum alloy, e.g. CZ P01 and Sigs.
    I shot a Glock at the range and I just could not believe they are somewhat popular guns.
    Soviet special forces carry CZ, American carry Sig or HK. Seals refused to use the Beretta. Nato has CZP01. Am I missing something here? Where is Glock popular? Among those who don’t really intend to shoot them.
    Does anyone else wonder why if cops find a real gun too heavy, why don’t they use another kind of *holster*?

  24. I hope my target finds me as ugly as my Glock 30, I don’t plan to ask, especially if I am in the position of having to pull the trigger on a talking target.

  25. The great things about having an ugly girlfriend (boyfriend, not to exclude) are they aim to please and nobody else is cutting in line. Our definitions of ugly probably differ with guns as much as they do with the opposite sex. The way I see it, pretty is a combination of how it works and how it looks. I take a gun at face value to wrap my hand around it but if it doesn’t impress it’s gone. I don’t need glamorous. Even my 1911s are basic except for the sights. None of my guns are safe queens. They all have wear and a nick or two. I guess ugly grows on ya!

  26. Now I’m LMAO!! Ugly indeed! If this is as bad as it gets for Glock we should all have these worries! #14, EdH may be have the point on this, better descriptors might be . . . Functional, no frills, simple, basic in design, functional in its purpose, serviceable, “I beat the hell out of it an it still fired, and . . .well, you get the idea. To paraphrase: Glock may not be your first choice, your best choice or maybe it is . . . No matter . . . It’s a stayer from any perspective and all else may be subject to change without notice.

  27. LOL!! It seems that all the comments with the exception of “American Made ONLY” all seem to say the same thing!
    Nobody seemed to find the Glock an unacceptable weapon system. From what I can deduce 90% plus of the opinion noted here are positive. The general opinion has the majority finding one or two minor issues and we won’t include that most if not all who have commented may agree that’s is an ugly looking tool! This description could be applied to a number of weapon systems in production today! Would it be safe to say that we may not like the Glock to the degree of other systems but we don’t find it to be of little or no value either?
    Glock I think will in the long term will become as has the Colt 1911,, S&W, Bretta, Browning an others. History will be the judge as to the final position that Glock will hold among these combat proven platforms, but, rest assured that Glock will have a place. I may never have more than one or two in my armory as I don’t think that any collection may be complete without it being represented.

  28. LOL, I find it comical that some folks use their gun as a fashion statement. I see some man-card recalls coming. Calling it ugly is interesting but hey, to each his own.

  29. To Rick B. #7 above: U.S. Glocks are made in Smyrna, GA in a very large and modern facility. I’ve been there and it’s quite impressive.

  30. It’s not that I hate Glocks and I’ve never fired one either, but I have to agree with most of the article and comments. To start off, it is ugly but not in a way I can describe. It’s a black polymer, striker fired semi-auto pistol, a general description that fits oohhh lets see now, how many pistols? I worked with guys that were gung ho Glock and I’ve had a few in my hand hand but I gotta say I’ll stick with my M&P’s (3) and one of those is the .22. I don’t know the cost of a conversion kit right off hand for a Glock but for just over $300 it’s easier to go thru some drills with that first then go to my .40 without having to re-convert.

  31. MINE SHOT GREAT AND RIGHT ON TARGET STRAIGHT OUT OF THE BOX. TRIGGER COULD BE A LITTLE TWEAKED BUT STILL WAS GREAT SHOOTER. UGLY AS HELL, BUT THE 45CAL. WAS SO GOOD I BOUGHT THE 9MM., LIKED THE 45CAL. MORE. GREAT GUNS TO HAVE, YOU WILL ENJOY THEM.

  32. Without naming names or getting technical, I’ll just say that I’m the proud owner of two 1911 45s. So after watching a video on YouTube called “1911s Suck Part 1” by James Yeager, I was slightly annoyed because he was telling me that my fine (and expensive) handguns were less than perfect. What an *******! But after quite a bit of soul searching, the answer was obvious to me. He is right and it’s me who is the *******! Yeah, it was a bitter pill. Yet the truth is that both of my 1911s ftf every so often and that is too many ftf’s for me. They are accurate as hell and a real pleasure to shoot, but what good are they if you’re in a life threatening situation and your gun jams and it’s unpredictable? The solution was also obvious. Buy a Glock, which I did and I’m not looking back. It hasn’t had a ftf yet and has become my “go to” gun. As much as I still love my 1911s, if I had to pick just one, it would be the Glock for its reliability.

  33. I’ve been shooting Glocks for 20 years. Not by choice at firstbut because they were issued to me. I also own 1911s. I like the Glock for what it is, an accurate, utilitarian tool right out of the box. They are ready to go with no frills. The only easier handgun, in my opinion, is a revolver. I carried a 357 magnum for a bit too. I liked it too.

    When I bought my first privately owned handgun it was a 1911. I actually built it from Caspian frame and slide onward. I then bought a second one. I was first introduced to the 1911 while stationed in S. Korea in the mid 80’s. I like them and I like the heritage they represent.

    For simple, no frills, high capacity, carry on duty or off and utilitarian sit in an evidence room until the investigation is over pistol I will choose a Glock. Don’t get me wrong, I will use my 1911s if needed. I will carry them when it suits me. I won’t worry about the Glock as much as I wait for the case to be finished.

    When I was issued or bought a Glock I had no break in period. The gun was ready to go out of the box. Not so with the 1911s. I had break in periods up to 250 rounds with them.

    These are my opinions and are in no way to undermine anyone else’s. My guns work.They send lead down range at what I shoot at. I shoot in the 98% with each of my guns. I own the same amount of Glocks as I do 1911s. The Glocks were the newer purchases.

  34. I show my friends my 1911s… I show my enemies my Glock. When you must have a weapon that will always fire under virtually any condition, the only one I trust is Glock and I own many different guns. My “Gen 3” G17 has over 100,000 rounds through it. I occasionally clean it. I replace springs and check for wear every 25,000 rounds or so. It has never failed to fire, failed to eject or had a malfunction of any kind in all the years I’ve owned it. I trust it with my life. It might be ugly. But it is definitely the most reliable tool I have ever used. Is there a negative? Yeah, I thought the grip a little slick, especially in humid conditions, so it now sports Decal Grips. It’s not perfect. It’s not for everyone, but it’s the only gun I’ll carry daily. I like my 1911s. I love to shoot them at the range. I also own a G20 and a G29. Same reliability but in 10mm.

  35. Never owned one never will. Not because of the trigger pull, plastic frames or just plain ugly, because it is not made in the USA. There are plenty of quality guns made in this country and not because of, but in spite of imports. Guns are not like cars, where car imports made American company’s put out a better product. Gun imports are mostly the opposite, forcing American companies to produce cheap junk to keep up with low priced import knock offs.

  36. Jim, Back in (I think) 92 when Glock came out with its first .45s they had problems with some guns gong bang the wrong way but Glock fixed the problems fast.

  37. Take some glock fans & put them thru some prize-winning competition; let them shoot their glocks for prize money, then train w/ & shoot 1911s for prize money; over a couple years of this competition, see if there’s much real difference in times/accuracy. I bet there’s not. Do a similar test w/ 1911 fans; also log-in all malfunctions. I bet there are much more malfunctions w/ 1911s, from good sources

  38. I have a 1st Gen Glock 19 I bought back in 92. I like the feel and ballance of the pistol but the trigger drop safety has always been an issue for me. I see people conceal carry Glocks and it scares the hell out of me because way to many of them pull out the gun with their fingers in the trigger well! Ask the NYPD how that worked out for them when they changed over to Glocks from .38’s. Another example is the HIVAC repairman in Ohio last summer that al but shot off his manhood when he shifted the weapon so he could work on the AC unit. Personally I really like and prefer the M&P .45 with the thumb safety. After all carrying a pistol for protection isnt any good if one isnt in the pipe and your at risk of shooting yourself and others.

  39. The trigger on a Glock is spongy and overtravely, that’s the problem. 5.5 lb is as light as you really want for a self-defense gun.

    Helps if you get in there and polish the bearing surfaces with a little jeweler’s rouge.

    Great gun, though. Only thing is it doesn’t like Rem UMC yellow bulk 9mm.

  40. I carry a 10 year old Gen 3 Glock 17 every day and it has never experienced a malfunction. It fits my hand well and shoots straight and goes bang every time. OK, it’s not pretty, but I didn’t get it to use as a fashion accessory. It’s a simple, reliable tool that one day could save lives.

    I followed Emily Miller’s series “Emily Gets Her Gun” and found it interesting that after all the guns she tried, a Glock 17 was her favorite. Then she bought a Sig (because it was pretty?).

    BTW, I’ve been reading up on gunsmithing and the author of one of my books (a 30 year gunsmith) states the only Glocks he has ever seen “explode” were firing reloads, and there were very few of them. Funny, the owner’s manual for virtually every major brand handgun says to only use factory ammo. So that’s what I do.

  41. I have had several of the Glock family over the years and in normal environments under normal conditions they function just fine. I have not had as positive results in conditions or environments that were outside of what most consider the norm. Even after hundreds of rounds however I was never able to get CQC comfortable with the geometry of the grip and my shot placement suffered. This I’m pretty sure was more my issue than the weapons. When the Springfield XD systems came out I was impressed that they felt so different, made the change and have carried them in my world travels since. I still have my Glocks and have found them to be great training aids for new shooters. Women seem to do very well with them and my girlfriend has latched on to my Glock .40 and made it her own. The newer generations of the Glocks seem to have improved in reliability, survivability, and changeable grip geometry. May have to try one soon, if for nothing more than to keep up with the trends. Have several friends who think here the icing on the cake so ill get some time with a new one in the near future.

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