Firearms

H.R. 2810: Here Come the Military Surplus 1911s to the Public!

On Tuesday, President Trump signed into law H.R. 2810, the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2018 (NDAA)—yada, yada, yada… The military currently has about 100,000 1911s just sitting in storage and costing the taxpayers money to store them. H.R. 2810 requires military surplus M1911/M1911A1 pistols (1911s) to be made available for sale to the American public!

Colt 1911 pistol left side
The Colt 1911 was the greatest gun of its day and it still is.
To be fair, President Obama signed a similar order. However, Obama’s order left the transfer to the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) optional. However, neither Ash Carter nor Eric Fanning decided to commit political suicide by making it happen under President Obama.

H.R. 2810, on the hand, solves that problem by making the transfer mandatory.

H.R. 2810 starts with a pilot program that will transfer between 8,000 and 10,000 1911s to the CMP for sale to the public. The Secretary of Defense, currently Gen. Jim Mattis, will then report the outcome of the program to Congress. The Secretary of Defense is then authorized to continue transferring up to 10,000 1911s per year for sale to the public through the CMP.

The Process

All pistol sales will occur through a federally licensed firearms dealer (FFL) in the purchaser’s state of residence, who will have to obey all state and local laws of the point of sale. Sales records allowing for the tracing of the firearms—should they later be found at a crime scene—will be kept both by the CMP and by the transferring FFL.

Furthermore, the buyer must receive the pistol from the FFL in a face-to-face transaction at the FFL’s business premises. Pistols will not be provided directly to the buyers by the CMP. This is different than the way M1s were distributed, but conforms to current firearm conventions. However, the process will go beyond current regulation due to certain enhancements.

The CMP has further indicated two background checks will be conducted in connection with each sale. The first will be conducted through the CMP prior to shipping the pistol to the specified FFL. The second will be conducted through FFL before releasing the pistol to the customer at the FFL’s place of business. Another variance from the process we are used is demonstrated by the fact that while federal law allows an FFL to transfer a firearm three days after a “delay” response by the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS), the CMP will only transfer the firearm to the FFL if NICS provides a “proceed” response to the first background check.

.45 ACP at Work
.45 ACP at Work

Additional Requirements

Those wishing to acquire one of the surplus 1911s must be U.S. citizens, eligible to receive firearms under federal law and the laws of their places of residence, members of a CMP-affiliated club, and able to provide proof of participation in a marksmanship activity. Only one 1911 will be available to each customer per calendar year.

Once 10,000 orders are received, the CMP will assign a random number to each customer. These customers will be contacted in sequence with the grading and pricing options that are then available. No timeline for release or pricing information is currently available.

This is another major victory for gun owners under the Trump administration. The NRA released a statement stating its thanks and appreciation to thank Sen. Luther Strange (R-AL) and Rep. Mike Rogers (R-AL) for their leadership in this historic effort.

As soon as further details or release dates become available, The Shooter’s Log will pass them along.

Are you interested in buying a 1911 through the CMP? Share your answer in the comment section.

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Comments (1,413)

  1. I was issued a Colt 1911 when I was in the Army (963-1969) and would very much like to have one of the 1911’s from this program. I think Congress making this program available to the american public is fantastic.

    1. There was an article her on shooters log about 3 weeks ago, I think they’re available now, but you have to join the CMP and from what I’ve gathered they want you to shoot or at a range! I’m still trying to get more info. but hadn’t really had time and kinda got turned off on the prices that they want for these guns, they start at $600.00 up!!!

  2. I served in the Army from 1972 to 1994 and before making Sgt I was a 90mm recoiless rifle gunner and had a 1911 as my side arm. I enjoyed firing that weapon and always wanted to own one, maybe now I can.

  3. I am a former Marine and would like old military weapons only I am a retired police officer and my funds are limited; therefore I have not been able to purchase many (2 only).

  4. I would love to have one, I am a veteran of the Coast Guard and I served from 77-82 and carried a 1911 45. I have tried over the years to acquire one but they have always been to expensive and sometimes to damaged to be recovered. I have several 1911 types but nothing like this. I need to know everything that has to be done to have a chance to purchase.

    1. I hope to find out more real soon, I know they’re NOT CHEAP, think they start at 7 to $800.00 and that kinda turned me off! But as soon as I find out more I will post!!

  5. A Gub’mint Colt? Sign me up. I love the 1911 and enjoy shooting a Mil-Spec Springfield I’ve had for the past 17 years.

  6. I am a Marine 1969-1972. I am also a retired 40 year law enforcement officer and carried as my primary weapon for over 20 years. I am interested in purchasing one.

    1. Question. Are the 1911’s gonna be for sale first, and then the 1911A1. would really like a 1911, I have several A1’s….

  7. Yes i want one orwhatever i can buy. Do not have a cmp sponser any where close to me and the 1 that i d o have is way to expensive for a person on s.s. i am a disabled vet.as well. Thanks

  8. Please let me know when the m1911a1 comes up for sale . I carried one when I was in the army . Loved this weapon, have been wanting one for a long time.

  9. I would absolutely love to purchase a surplus 1911. I was an active duty MP during the transition from the 1911 to the M9 Beretta and I miss my 1911.

  10. YES I CARRIED THE 92 IN NAM. PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHEN , WHERE AND HOW TO BUY THIS GREAT HAND GUN. ERNIE G. DECEMBER 29 2017 @ 2:50 PM THANK YOU.

  11. I’d love one. But not a member of CMP and haven’t been in shooting competition. Not sure why that’s a requirement.

  12. Yes, I would be honored and vey grateful to be allowed to own of these collected 1911’s. I have a CHL, an avid shooter and I would highly respect the ownership should I be graced with this Special piece of world history.

  13. I have a Concealed Carry Permit in AZ where I reside. I took a training course prior to receiving my CCW Permit. Is that sufficient to qualify for this program to purchase a 1911?

  14. Will this comment section put me on the availability to purchase notification list? I would like to purchase one at the first opportunity.

  15. I have been looking for a way , for a long time, to get ownership of one of these classics! I think this is a great move by my favorite president – Mr. Trump. Having a chance to own one would round-out my collection very nicely!

  16. Very interested in owning an iconic govt. Issue Colt 1911 .45. Both my dad and uncle carried them during WWII.

  17. I certainly don’t want to miss this one. This would be a great addition to my WWII collection. Thanks CMP & Pres. Trump!

  18. Would love to own one of these – remember talking with my father who served under Patton during WWII as a medic and that one of requirements was that he had to qualify with the 1911 45 caliber hand gun, and he didn’t even carry one while working in the field hospital.

  19. I am a Vietnam Vet and carried one in Vietnam. Very interested in owning one, but I do not live anywhere near where there is a CMP program, so this is so very unfair to a lot of us. I have been through the CC program. Does that count?

  20. Hope this privilege to own one of these military veteran 1911 pistols… I hope that it actually happens in my lifetime & isn’t a myth like the WWII Willy’s jeeps for $100.oo some time back… also hope that the application process is fair & equal to all FFL dealers

    1. During my time in the USMC I carried one of these excellent pistols on a daily basis. I was not able to purchase one at that time, but I am very excited to have this opportunity to purchase a .45 1911 pistol through this promotion. Thank you.

  21. I was born in 1943 and most of the males in my family served in the arm forces, so I was raised hearing the wars stories, it would be an honor to own one of these historic weapons.

  22. I ‘grew up’ on the 1911 in the 60s and 70s while an Infantry officer. I have a modern, fancy version of the 1911, but would love to get one of the original versions. Let me know..

  23. The ? was: Are you interested in buying a 1911 through the CMP?… Yes I am very interested in purchasing one of the military surplus M1911/M1911A1 pistols (1911s). Of course this would be pending the final sale price.

  24. They have shooting clubs set up at the Fort, for both the Pistol and M1 Grands, and you can basically build your own weapon! I have a friend that shoots in one of the clubs with the Grands, I’ll try to fing out what I can!

  25. OMG — Well a few hundred stupid worthless notices from Shooters Log about an equal number of mostly equally stupid worthless comments from people screaming Me Too about wanting to buy a 1911 that they think the government will be giving away because they are either too stupid or too lazy to go to the CMP website to get the actual information.

    UN-f’ing-SUBSCRIBE!

    1. where can i get one??
      i am only asking to p’ off TomC even more!
      did it work!
      Merry F’in Christmas! and a happy new year!

    2. Ohhhh Newwwww! What will we ever do without a synical narcissistic a-hole like yourself participating in the discussion?!?!

  26. I own several guns and have shot many. Although I’ve heard that 1911s are awesome guns I’ve never shot one. It’d be great to own one. Please let me know when they go on sale. Thanks.

  27. I really don’t know Sir, I can remember in the 60’s my father purchased weapons through the NRA from Anniston Army Depot, at that time was the worlds largest Tank factory, employed 6,000 people!!

  28. I think it would awesome to own not only fine gun but a piece of history. There is nothing better than a 1911 or the United State Military! Merica!!

  29. My father and I would both love to have one of these pistols but there are no cmp’s in our area why is that a requirement

  30. I qualified with a 1911 when in the army. Would love to have one now. It sounds like the government is making this more difficult than it should be.

  31. Yes please, I would really like one, i am third generation us army, but the 45’s were gone by the time i came along. I would love to finally have chance to use one.

  32. Great, an even more intrusive federal registry. They’re not even trying to hide the fact that there will be a permanent record of the transaction now, which is, indeed, a federal registry, and is unConstitutional.

  33. I would like to truly like to thank Rep. Mike Rogers for working hard for the CMP project, and here in my home state of AL. just down the road about 20 miles is the old FT. McCellan that is selling these little jewels! But they do come at a very large price, at 800 HUNDRED and up! But this is when they were first getting set up for sale, and hoping the price may come down a bit! I need to go back and check it out again and see if any changes have been made!!

  34. Those of us who shoot club matches should have no problem acquiring one of these collectible gems. As for Trump being the greatest or even good, that’s a matter of opinion. If he gives this kind of attention to health care, higher education and housing, then maybe he could join the ranks of the respected.

  35. It carried a 1911 when I was in the Army, would love to have one just to have a bit of my past. I collect items from the military past and present.

  36. I find the additional background check frivolous, and will no doubt the up the weapons I transit.I am not a member of a club, but have my DD214. I was one of the last soldiers to qualify on a 1911. Though I already have one, I would live one from the military. Good luck to all who go for one. This is a step in the right direction regardless. Good bless America!

  37. I would like one. Please pass on information about the application process. Are you required to join a CMP which ones are available in the Dallas-Fort Worth area.

  38. Definitely interested! I owned a new govt issue colt 1911 that I bought in 1990 and it burned up in a house fire. I still have it but it was ruined.

  39. How many hoops will a person have to jump through? and then you just get what they pick out of the lot, it may be a good one, or it could be a good paper weight….

  40. Would like opportunity to buy one at a good price. What sort of “proof of participation in a marksmanship activity” is needed? A letter from my gun range that I know which of the gun points downrange?

  41. One thing that has me confused with this CMP release that also differs is the need to not only provide proof that you are in a CMP affiliated club but also the need to prove that you have participated in a “marksmanship activity.” How is this defined? Do they need to be CMP approved shoots/classes or is a picture of me aiming at a target (joking) enough? With a lottery like this I am already getting the paperwork ready.

  42. I would really like one of these, but there are no CMP Clubs near me. This puts me, and others, at a disadvantage. Will there be other offerings without the CMP requirement?
    Sama

  43. Family had dutifully protected this Countries freedoms from WW1,WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Kuwait, Desert Storm, Iraq and Afghanistan and currently in areas of need. It would be great to own a one of these. Sign me up.

  44. Carried the 1911 most of my career with in the Navy before they went to the 9mm, which I really never liked. I would love to buy a1911 for nostalgic reasons as it remains one of my favorite pistols, and brings back so many memories.

  45. I am curious why my comment about the quality and price of these junkers was deleted.? If The Shooter’s log can and will censure negative comments, then why are they here.? Just wrong.

    1. Most likely it was not moderated. With the holiday, I am a little behind with approving them. Sorry. ~Dave Dolbee

  46. I would love to own one of these and they should be made available to American citizens as they are a part of our military history.

  47. Being WW1&2 enthusiast and former soldier who carried and trained on the 1911, I would very much like to own one. I am a NRA Life member and a member of NC Rifle and Pistol Club

  48. I very interested in purchasing a 1911. My father and father in law carried one in the army and I would like to be able to own part of there history while in the military.

  49. My dad was a WWII veteran. His older brother was KIA in 44′. You better believe I would love to own one of these original Colt 1911s. It would be a wonderful tribute to them both. Fingers crossed that I will be one of the lucky, chosen purchasers!

  50. REMEMBER, THESE ARE ORIGINAL AND HAVE NOT BEEN PROPERLY RAMPED YET. THEY WILL JAM ON YOU IF NOT RELIGIOUSLY MAINTAINED. LES BAER IN IOWA CAN MAKE IT ALL RIGHT IF YOU GOTTA CARRY THE BIGGEST TO FEEL SAFE.

  51. I”d love to own a 1911 45acp, as I have tried to find at a reasonable price. Email to me how, where and when i can purchase one.

  52. Would LOVE one of these without the B/S red tape and conventions. I figure it should be a lottery, seeing as how us taxpayers have already paid these forward twice over. Original purchase with taxpayer funds, and then again for 50+ years of storage…

  53. One of these 1911’s would be a great addition to my collection. One that I would be proud to have and leave to one of sons someday. Hopefully, not in the near future. Please advise.

  54. Sounds like to many barrel rings to jump over or through with no time lines mentioned, getting them may take years.. But yes, I’d love to own one…

  55. Have always wanted a 1911 since my service days in USArmy. I was a grunt and qualified with the M-1 but the 1911 was an officer only side arm in 1960. I have a SC CCW and would love to get a good condition1911 at a reasonable price. Please include me when more is known. Thanks, Rick

  56. I would like to buy one as soon as they become available. I qualified as Expert when I was on active duty in the U.S. Navy. I would be honored to purchase one.

  57. I would like to purchase one of these pistols and would like to receive further information on how to do so as soon as it becomes available.

  58. If Trump was great, he would’ve served in Vietnam along with your father. Instead he dodged the draft on 5 occasions and pretended he had a bone spur which didn’t seem to stop him from playing golf and tennis. Not so great.

  59. I AM A LICENSED FIREARM COLLECTOR AND AS A VIETNAM VETERAN WOULD WELCOME THE CHANCE TO ACQUIRE AN
    ORIGINAL COLT 1911 MODEL,FOR MY COLLECTION,. ESPECIALLY ONE MANUFACTURED IN THE 1960’S.

  60. Very Interested! Carried one while serving in Desert Storm,and my other 9 years of service. Thank you for the possible opportunity

  61. While I’d love to have one, as a retired 30 CWO4 LE range master I don’t feel like joining a club and jumping through the DCM hoops just to get one. Ill just wait till they start showing up at shows.

  62. I held a colt 1911 for the first time 30 years ago. It belonged to my brother in law who served in Vietnam. Always dreamed of having one!

  63. Great all around pistol. Use to shoot competition with it in the Air Force. Would love to get one to pass down to my kids and grandkids.

  64. I have been wanting to get a pistol and start training to improve my marksmanship. Please add my email to your notes to notify of the process to purchase one of the surplus 1911 45’s. Thank you for the informative article, I enjoy reading them. Please forward any pertinent information to: pncox@yahoo.com thanks

  65. I thank the should hand them out to all the vets who carried one .if they are in there right mind state ..no offence to anyone .then open up to everyone else .I my self would love to have one. but the cost well be high .I always like the 1911 look and fell .but never could afford to buy one…

  66. Yeah, Great Guns, BUT AT $1000 PLUS THEY ARE MAKING A SHAM OUT OF THIS SALE. FOR ANOTHER FEW HUNDRED ONE CAN BUY a BRAND NEW KIMBER! Sorry to have to say that but many are agreeing this is way to much, I have a C&R that cost me a small bundle to attain and they wont even honor my License to send to my home. The stringent requirements are beyond reason and many members are saying the same thing. If any thing I will wait until a FFL buys them and purchase one at my price after negotiating the sale! GOOD LOCK TO CMP with their new guidelines!

  67. Would like to notified when i can purchase one. Please let me know what i need to do to be included on the list to purchase.

  68. The thought of owning one of these hand guns is over the top exciting! My father carried one as a “Forward Observer” in the Marines during the Korean conflict in 1952-1953.

  69. I would love to have a 1911 I have a few guns but nothing like the 1911
    so please lit me know where and when i could have the opportunity to purchase one

  70. Yes, please provide application info when it is available. I have a beautiful Colt Gold Cup 1911, 70 series that is so nice I don’t like to use it much. Having a government surplus model would give something to practice with while keeping the Gold Cup in great shape.

  71. Dad stayed alive in hand to hand combst in Leyte and Okinawa because of his 45…..i would love to have one in his memory…

  72. I would love to purchase a military surplus 1911. I carried one for many years, until I grudgingly gave it up in the mid to late 80s when it was replaced w/ the M9. Please let me know how I can get one.

  73. I would love to have one to add to my collection. I think that it should be a lot easier to obtain one tho. That’s all a little over the top. Marksmanship program, cmp affiliated club? Come on. Do the stinkin background check like always and sell us the pistol. Hell, we played for them to begin with!!

  74. I had relatives who landed on Normandy. One their 1911s made it into the family but disappeared over the years. I would like to buy one and want to be notified on when available and how to purchase,