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ER Doctor: What Scares Me Even More than Ebola

ER Doctor Dr. Louis M. Profeta

Recent polling data shows that the federal government’s response — or some say lack of response — to Ebola infections occurring in the United States is affecting voters’ willingness to support the administration and its political party, and the events have politicians pointing the finger of blame at each other to avoid responsibility on Nov. 4.

It also has doctors second-guessing treatment plans, hospital response, and more ominously, the natural human reaction of caregivers who don’t want to go near an Ebola-infected patient. The following essay by Dr. Louis M. Profeta, an emergency physician practicing in Indianapolis, delves into the what-ifs that politicians of all stripes seem to be avoiding like the plague. If you currently don’t prep, you may want to start. — Woody

Guest post by Dr. Louis M. Profeta. Reprinted with permission.

ER Doctor Dr. Louis M. Profeta
Emergency physician Dr. Louis M. Profeta. Photo courtesy of the author.

I’ve been walking the earth for a half a century, so I’m sure I’ve picked up a bit along the way. I know the Gettysburg Address by heart. I can recite all the presidents. I can taste the difference between Diet Coke and Diet Pepsi, and I’m fairly certain I can tell you the starting lineup from the 1976 Cincinnati Reds. But if you ask me if I’m worried about Ebola, if our hospital is ready or if our nurses and staff are up to the challenge, chances are you will probably hear me say this:

“Hell if I know.”

I have been practicing emergency medicine for more than 20 years and I’ve seen close to 100,000 patients. I’ve written a few books, published some papers, lectured a bunch of times, pissed off about 10,000 soccer moms when I wrote an article telling them their kids weren’t playing the pros. I once even testified in front of a congressional sub-committee on hospital disaster preparedness. I’m still beating myself for at least not stealing a pen, but it was part of my duty as the physician director of mass casualty preparedness for our emergency department.

So you would think if anyone in the emergency department trenches would be versed as to how this Ebola scare will unfold, if it will spread, what to expect, how to diagnose, screen, protect and treat, then I suppose it would be me.

If an investigator for Joint Commissions or some other oversight agency, a member of the press or a committee trying to ensure CDC compliance were to pull me aside to spot check my Ebola acumen, they’d be satisfied with my answers and I’d leave them feeling like they had done due diligence as an administrator.

“Dr. Profeta, do we have enough protective stuff and does everyone know how to use it?”


“Are the screening plans in place?”

“Yeah, ya betcha.”

“Is the staff versed in transmission and spread of Ebola?”

“Darn tooten.”

“Has everyone read all the CDC and hospital communiqués regarding Ebola?”

“Sure have.”

“Have you practiced the drills in the ER in case we have someone show up with a possible exposure?”

“More times than Lois Lerner has hit her hard drive with a hammer.”

But if they were to ask me if there are any other issues they should be aware of, I’ll just stare with round blank eyes and keep my mouth shut until the right question is asked; the question they will pretend does not exist.

“Dr. Profeta, will they – the staff, you, your partners – show up? “

“That, I don’t know.”

Some years ago when I first started in practice, a very large hospital in our area was having trouble getting patients rapidly admitted from the ER to the floors. This resulted in a tremendous backlog of patients and extreme ER overcrowding. This naturally increased patient wait times and directly impacted the health of those coming to the ER. So, naturally, the hospital system formed a committee and hired consultants. They looked at every single variable: time to laboratory, time to X-ray, nursing changeover, bed request time and on and on and on. Do you know what they found? The roadblock in the movement of patients through this major medical system was housekeeping. Think about that. Housekeepers, traditionally the lowest paid and least-skilled division of employment of the hospital, were responsible for the movement and throughput of patients more than any other factor.

If the rooms on the floor were not cleaned fast enough, then no patients could move from the ER to the floor, and no patients from the waiting room to the ER. ER wait times rose and patient care suffered. Housekeepers handcuffed the entire system, and not because they were lazy. The regulations, protocols and procedures put into place to clean a room are so extensive that rapid room turnover was next to impossible with the current staffing model. That stuck with me. What is the rate-limiting step in a mass casualty scenario or massive patient influx that would handcuff us? Where will all the preparedness collapse? What is the leaking O-ring? What am I afraid will fail?

As I alluded to a bit earlier, I appeared before members of Congress who were investigating Midwest medical centers and regional hospital preparedness for a mass casualty event. The focus was on our readiness should a major earthquake hit the Midwest. The congressmen wanted to know if we had the capacity to mobilize our staff; they asked what assistance we needed. Toward the end of the discussion, they asked each of us what we were most afraid of. The responses were typical answers you would give to a member of Congress if you were seeking money (not having enough resources, not enough congressional or governmental support, not having enough staff or equipment or infrastructure, etc.)

When they got to me, asking what I worried about, I simply said: “The flu.”

Now, flash forward. I wonder if what I really meant to say was “Ebola.”

When it comes to our ER and our ability to provide the best care during the worst extremes, I have no doubt we can mobilize our hospital to care for hundreds and hundreds of seriously injured patients. We have modeled our Emergency Department response to a mass-casualty incident in much the way Israeli hospitals have structured their programs. (As a side note, Israel is light years ahead of us in terms of all mass casualty – chemical, biological, environmental, mad-made – preparedness.) Specifically, we model our plan after Western Galilee hospital on the border of Israel and Lebanon. This is a large, major, modern-day medical center under constant threat from Hezbollah rockets from Lebanon. They train and drill with a level of involvement, passion and commitment that exceeds anything we can muster.

The staff at my hospital in Indianapolis, however, has bought into it and I truly believe that there is no ER in Indiana, and few in the Midwest, that have a better plan in place. We also gained a better understanding of the type of injuries we would see in each scenario. More specifically, we wanted to know from a pure number standpoint how many patients would have to go to the operating room the minute they hit the door, how many would need to be on ventilators and how many would need emergent life-saving intervention.

Fortunately, and not so fortunately, the proliferation of research in this area has provided plenty of hard data well documented in the literature. Ultimately, all things being equal, the data seems to indicate a suicide type bomb loaded with ball bearings or other projectiles placed in a crowded area will result in the largest number of patients requiring immediate, emergent and life-saving intervention. While a disaster like a major earthquake will result in far more fatalities, far less people will require absolute immediate operative or life-saving intervention. All we really need to know is, what type of event, how many patients, and it’s pretty easy to calculate what to expect from an acuity standpoint. In the ER, it isn’t the total number of patients that concerns us, it’s the number we get that will die if not treated in minutes or a few hours. The rest we have no problem letting wait.

Ultimately, though, what I am getting at is that the trauma from a major incident like an earthquake or terrorist attack is very predictable. All you really need to know is the type of event and the numbers and you almost immediately have a pretty good idea of what to expect.

But a real bad flu?

There is no way you can prepare for it. The goal should be to protect your hospital from it.

We have seen influenza pandemics before, the most notable being the Spanish flu of 1918. Researchers estimate between 20 and 100 million peopled died from this strain of flu. What was even more concerning was the number of deaths that occurred in previously healthy people. Each year in the United States, about 30,000-40,000 deaths and 200,0000 hospitalizations can be attributed in part to influenza. Most deaths are in the elderly with pre-existing serious health problems. The Spanish flu of 1918 was different. It killed the healthy, able bodied. It unleashed an incredible degree of viral savagery with an infection rate of nearly 50 percent. It was a biological holocaust.

Thus my biggest fear has always been a strain of flu that is highly contagious with a high mortality rate. The Spanish-flu mortality rate of 1918 was 2 to 5 percent. Ebola has a 20 to 90 percent mortality rate, but it fortunately is not quite as contagious as Influenza. However, I still keep going back to flu and envisioning an epidemic of the Spanish type that will quickly fill all our inpatient beds, every ICU bed, every ventilator, every outpatient bed, every cot, gurney and chair in the ER and in all the waiting rooms. I’m afraid that a flu virus this aggressive will bring five dying flu victims to our ER each day and dozens more with a real possibility of dying.

This would occur on top of a department that is always operating at capacity and drowning in documentation and electronic medical record bureaucracy. After 30 days in our ER, nearly 150 people will have died, providers will be physically and mentally spent and morale will be at below-despair levels. Multiply it by 20 or so other hospitals in the area and now we are talking about 3,000 members of our community dead in only a single month. The obituary pages of the local paper will be thicker than the advertising section the day after Thanksgiving. Expand that number statewide and nationwide and the numbers become so immense they aren’t even real.

Now imagine a realistic scenario in which the flu vaccine only provides immunity to 50 percent of the recipients. That means that half of our ER staff who are seeing all these patients will have little protection, outside of gowns, masks, and gloves, against a virus that is spread primarily though coughing, sneezing and saliva. Simply put, some of us in the trenches in damn near every ER in America will almost certainly die. It could be me, it could be any one of my partners, colleagues and co-workers and it could be one of our children or a spouse who gets infected when one of us comes home thinking the headache and fatigue they are feeling is simply exhaustion from the workload of the day. Can you picture it?

Now imagine that huge numbers of hospital staff – from doctors to housekeepers, from food services to registration, from security and parking to transportation will decide not show up. They will call in sick or simply just say: “No, I’m not coming to work today.” In just a few days, human waste, debris, soiled linens, the sick, the dying and the bodies will pile up. We will be overwhelmed and unable to offer much in the way of assistance because the labor-intensive protocols that allow us to safely care for even one patient are just too exhausting. These procedures are barely repeatable more than once or twice of day, and fraught with so many steps and potential for mistake that it becomes too physically and emotionally taxing for the staff to do … so they simply wont show up.

And I am not sure I will, either.

I love emergency medicine. I love helping people and saving lives and I think I’m pretty good at it, but I am also a person and I have a wife and three children that I love and want to see grow up. I also am keenly aware that not a damn thing I do will have any real impact on the survivability of a patient with either the Spanish flu or Ebola. Fluids, rest and prayer is about all there is to offer. There is an old adage that says a hospital is no place for a sick person. I think whoever first said that had Spanish flu and Ebola in mind.

So we drill and we prepare and we post placards and do screening but no one is asking why in the hell are they coming to us in the first place? Fluids and rest can be provided anywhere: an empty warehouse or a huge tent in the middle of farmland. Why would we not just take the care to them in the form of special traveling Ebola-mobiles that triage and treat the patients at home?

Why can we deliver the mail, pickup the garbage and recyclables at damn near every house in America, but we can’t pull up a retrofitted UPS van, drop off a mid-level provider in a hazmat gown, let them do an assessment, draw some blood, drop off cans of rehydrating formula to their doors, clean linen, biohazard bags, gowns and gloves for family members, slap a warning sticker on the front door, tell them you will stop by tomorrow and move on to some other location?

I know I sound crass, perhaps like I don’t really have sympathy for these very ill patients. This could not be further from the truth. I’m just kind of angry. I know there is a better way than risking the infrastructure of a medical center for the sake of a few patients that will either do OK at home with simple supportive care or die no matter what care I provide. We’ve had years to prepare for this, we’ve hung all our hopes on a vaccine and not nearly enough thought on containment should a vaccine fail.

Today’s Ebola is tomorrow’s Spanish flu. We’ve had nearly a hundred years to get ready and the best we can come up with is plastic suits, double gloves, respirators, and masks. The battleground of this problem can’t be in the hospital. It is unwinnable in our emergency rooms.

I think I might just call in sick.

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Dr. Louis M. Profeta is an emergency physician practicing in Indianapolis. He was born in 1964 and grew up in Indianapolis. He received his medical degree from Indiana University School of Medicine and residency in Emergency Medicine from the Univ. of Pittsburgh. He currently practices Emergency Medicine at St. Vincent Hospital in Indianapolis, Indiana. He is the recipient of numerous honors and awards for his contributions to community health and community activism. He is the author of the critically acclaimed book, The Patient in Room Nine Says He’s God.

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Comments (13)

  1. The entire ‘ebola outbreak’ is a scripted LIE! NO ONE currently has ebola as the PTB’s would NEVER release this–even to massively ‘depopulate’ the earth which is a major goal of theirs–when they can FAKE the whole thing and still get Billions ( 7 Billion$ in govt fund for ’emergency pandemic’ vaccines is now going to Glaxo Smith Kline, Merck, et al!!). Check out for more info and also watch DYNO video: Ebola False Flag FULLY Exposed! Complete Compilation Of ALL The Evidence! CASE CLOSED! (try not to laugh to hard at the terrible acting and the wad of cash and the script director with no hazmat suit caught on camera who puts his cup of coffee down right next to the ‘ebola victim’ -actor , etc!):

    1. @ Dave.

      If you think it’s a mass conspiracy, being performed by the Government get a passport. And fly directly to Lagios, Liberia for six-months, If the Liberian government does send you home in a cremation urn. You can go on the “Lecture Circuit” and make millions. On how you survived Ebola.

    2. I provided 2 links with extensive evidence that eboLIE is another engineered’crisis for $ and also to get martial law in USA (as well as take over Africa –see — )with the ultimate goal of getting us all microchipped and thus total control… In resposnse you have provided zero info and instead a useless wisecrack. I suggest you do your homework on this issue , or else go back to the conmputer -banks ‘phone room’ for which you were hired to send out further obfuscatory comments (exisence of such rooms has been disclosed in a detailed article by a person who worked in one–guess he had a conscience!). Here is a short utube researching the fake ‘Duncan eboLIE ‘ fable :
      The ultra-rich are using a higher level of fraud that many otherwise inteligent people haven’t yet caugt on to : paid ‘crisis actors’ hired to participate in DHS (no oath to the Constitution required for DHS !several hundred thousand employees who are colleting taxpayer paychecks–it’s a parallel govt set up to destroy the USA from within).
      If you want a job as crisis actor : It worked great at Sandy Hook fake “shooting” since many people actualy believe that people /kids were shot ! NOT! All fake as you can verify easily :

    3. @ Dave

      If Ebola is a conspiracy and doesn’t exist, why was in necessary to quarantine and house arrest a nurse by two Republican Governor’s. One, in New Jersey and the other in Maine. You don’t lock-up people for a disease that doesn’t exist, and then claim it was for the protection of other people of those states. Because of the possibility of a public health risk. That’s an OXYMORON. Or maybe, just maybe, they were locking her up for her own good, because of how she might VOTE in the up-coming elections!!!

    4. It’s all a ‘political play’, my friend! Both parties are OWNED by the Central Bankers (called the “Federal” (NOT!)Reserve Corporation in US) who create money out of nothing and lend it to tte govts at interest (you know, the infamous ‘interest rate’ of the ‘Fed’. ALL the fraudulent ‘national debt’ is to ‘owed’ to these Banking Gangsters or Banksters , as we call them! A giant financial scam that inevitably transfers with mathematical certainty all the worlds wealth to them just as a roulette wheel eventually transfers all the players chips/money to the casino/house/bank. You have to really study this for yourself –if you can handle the painful truth about the massive deceptions foisted upon us. If you have the desire and courage , I would suggest reading the following which brought tears of hope to my eyes that the oligarchy of evil (Banksters!) will be soon be removed from power. If not, we are in big, big trouble. The ballot box is corrupted, jury box is under attack by ebolie scam (putting innocent people under arrest/”quarantine” by ACCUSATION only,NO trial, etc!) . Then we will have no other choice but the cartridge box! Unless we are willing to become micro-chipped slaves living in poverty.
      Check this out:
      PS I’ve studied this bankster secret govt , etc. stuff for over 20 years and worked with top level people trying to save our Country and freedoms -such as former FBI Chief Ted Gunderson, movie producer Anthony Hilder, and many others …You have the advanage of being able to learn at 1000 times the rate it took me if you use the internet and youtubes! You may get angry a lot, but it is up to you to make the decision as to how you want to spend your life-time! Personally, I’d rather know the truth and have a chance than be conned into slavery by the multi-billionaire psychopaths.BTW, some of the educational utubes are also very enjoyable :

    5. What Dave is saying here is true. I am retired, so been around a few decades, Have a degree in physics, so can read and understand and even write a word or two, and like Dave, I have spent thousands of hours hunting for the truth, especially after retirement when I had more free time, but 40 years ago I read a book about this stuff, so there are those that have known the truth for a long time but with the internet it is much faster getting up to speed.

      Dave is right about the banksters, the fake “Federal” Reserve, the voting corruption, the Puppet Masters, as we call them, own most all the political candidates on both sides, so no matter who wins, the Puppet Masters will have control, and there is a ton more going on out there being done by those who are corrupt and greedy and desiring to have total control of the masses,(partially out of fear because of the evils they are guilty of), and planet earth which includes plans for a huge reduction in the population of the earth. Could say more, but you are probably already thinking about finding some comfort hiding under your bed for a while, right?

    6. @Secundius:

      Wow your “cremation urn” reply to Dave is classic!! Great reply!!

      It’s like seriously, get a passport buddy.

      Maybe Dave has been listening to Alex Jones at infowars dot com a little too much….LOL

  2. Very well thought out and well written. Agree with almost all of your assertions. As a long time medical professional in the trenches I agree your assessment of our high tech hospital-based health care system’s ability to handle epidemic conditions is correct.
    One thing you neglect to comment about is the absolute negation of personal and family responsibility left in our society. Decades ago during a long term hospitalization the family would do most of the feeding, cleaning and basic maintain acne while the hospital staff (predominantly nurses) did real nursing. Now, between the “documentation” nightmare and the abrogation of all personal care by the family, the nurses are so overwhelmed, the system will collapse almost instantly. How often have I heard a family member cry out “nurse, he just peed himself. Come clean him”
    The second problem is also personal responsibility, or rather lack of same. Quarantine has ALWAYS REQUIRED enforcement. As our Maine nurse so accurately demonstrated, even a trained provider who should know better will break quarantine more time than not unless forced into it. There are not enough enforcers to leave people at home, unless you want gunshot victims to add to the mix.
    Personally, I am not sure why I will do either.
    Thank you, Dr. Profeta, for providing a dose of reality.

    1. @Secundius:

      Well here I am on the forum you invited me to 🙂

      I agree with so many of your posts on multiple forums, but I’m not sure if we’ll agree on this one.

      My feeling on Ebola is more strong and from the conservative point of view. The airways should have been restricted. Our government let us down. And that doctor in NYC is a JACKASS for going to the bowling alley and whatever other public things he did. He should lose his medical license, and so should the lady doctor from MSNBC. As my local radio station morning show guys were saying this week, I wouldn’t want to be the next guy who used that bowling ball.

      And I applaud Chris Christie in New Jersey for doing what he did!!

      Secundius, I’m part liberal and part conservative, and you may have perceived me as being liberal on that forum about the confiscation law in California, but on this forum I’m ULTRA CONSERVATIVE.

      Where do you stand on this issue my friend?

  3. One thing we do know for sure. Ebola can sometimes cause terminal stupidity, within 1000 miles of any affected person.

    Any flu travels faster and wider than Ebola and it’s more deadly overall. Yes, Ebola is more deadly, but your odds of catching it are way, way less.

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