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Why I Chose a GLOCK 19 for Concealed Carry

Glock 19

I like all sorts of pistols, but I choose to carry the GLOCK 19. I believe the road to firearms knowledge is paved with money, embarrassment in classes and competitions, and rounds sent downrange. I’ve been fortunate to walk that path in the past 15 years or so, and I’ve tried out dozens of different carry guns in that time. Here is how I learned that for me, the GLOCK tops them all.

I didn’t want to like GLOCK . Personally I think it’s an ugly little gun, chunky and square and about as attractive as a plastic trash can. And they are so…ordinary. It seems like everyone has a GLOCK, from half the competition shooters to the Highway Patrolman writing me a speeding ticket. I wanted to be the clever guy ahead of the game who was somehow different and better. I was stubborn about this, shooting revolvers, a Steyr M, SIG Sauers, 1911s, and HKs for years. And every defensive shooting class I went to, I was outshot by guys with stock GLOCKs that came in those Tupperware cases.

The light bulb finally went on for me at a grueling defensive pistol class in Kansas. Running a SIG P245 with a standard DA/SA trigger and six shot magazine, I paired up with a shooting buddy using a GLOCK 30, another .45 about the same size as my SIG. The scenario was a confrontation with three bad guys. We had to draw from the holster and shoot each bad guy three times in a common drill known as the “El Presidente.” Speed and accuracy mattered. My shooting buddy was always faster in getting the first aimed shot to the target, because his trigger pull was the same every time, smooth with a super short reset. I had to start with a long, heavy double-action trigger pull because we were drawing from the holster, just like you would in real life. My first trigger pull with the SIG was long, heavy, and slow. My first shot was always less accurate than the GLOCK ’s first shot. I also had to learn two trigger pulls depending on what mode my gun was in. I thought, “Isn’t the first shot kind of important? Don’t I want to be the guy who shoots his first shot quicker and straighter than the other guy shooting back at me?” DA/SA triggers are fine for the range but they aren’t for me when it comes to a carry gun.

I also noticed that I had to reload to finish this basic drill, and my shooting buddy with the GLOCK 30 did not. The SIG ran dry with two shots remaining every time, while the GLOCK could complete the drill and still have two rounds left. In the real world, my shooting partner would have two extra rounds left to deal with any of the three bad guys still posing a threat. This matters to me because three-on-one odds happen all the time in the real world. Real bad guys bring friends to buck up their courage, provide backup, and confirm their tall tales after a night robbing the town. I am convinced capacity matters. The GLOCK 19 holds 15+1 9mm hollowpoints in a flush-fitting magazine. Think about that—shooting 16 rounds through a J-frame revolver means reloading three times. Have you ever frantically reloaded a revolver while the students who brought GLOCKs patiently watch and wait for you to finish the drill? I am no Jerry Miculek—it’s really embarrassing.

Years of classes and competitions have shown me that GLOCK, M&P, Springfield XD and 1911 shooters make the fastest aimed shots after drawing from the holster and the fastest follow-up shots after that. These guns have the same trigger pull every time and are simple to get into the fight. The 1911 has a basic safety that turns off with thumb pressure applied where the thumb sits anyway. The others have no external safety to worry about at all. The slowest guns to get into the fight are Beretta and Smith & Wesson DA/SA guns carried with the safety on. The shooter must reach up to the slide to disengage the safety on these guns, then move their thumb back down to its normal position, then start pulling that long, heavy, double-action first shot. By this time, a good GLOCK shooter has already put two in the chest and is transitioning the muzzle to the next point of aim. After firing the first shot, 1911, M&P, and GLOCK shooters keep shooting faster than the rest because of their low bore axis. The barrels on these guns sit lower in your hand compared to other designs, making felt recoil travel more straight back instead of flipping the gun barrel upwards. This is why competition shooters place their hands as high as possible on their pistols. They want the barrel to sit as low as possible relative to their hands. It’s also why a GLOCK or M&P is more controllable than a Springfield XD in the same caliber and size–sorry XD fans.

I chose the GLOCK 19 over the GLOCK 17 because it’s easier to conceal and only gives up 2 rounds of capacity in a standard magazine. It fits my ordinary-sized hands just as well as the larger frame. The “baby” GLOCK 26 is too small. At Cheaper Than Dirt!, we sell lots of aftermarket GLOCK 26 extended floorplates so folks can wrap all four fingers around the grip. Why not have a frame that goes that far out in the first place, and a magazine inside that frame holding five more rounds of ammo? It’s like Goldilocks and the Three Bears—the GLOCK 19 isn’t too big, isn’t too small, it’s just right. I carry it in a custom “tuckable” leather inside-the-waistband holster, and I can do anywhere in jeans and a tucked-in t-shirt without anyone knowing I am armed.

More than anything else, I chose the GLOCK because it works. A target gun that is just going to be used at the range can jam sometimes and it doesn’t matter. A carry gun must be flawless. It must work 100% of the time with the ammo you put in it, without failing in the smallest way, ever. It should not require custom springs, extra polishing of feed ramps, or a healthy dose of gun oil to stay reliable. You should not have to know the best trick to bend the internal extractor to maintain its proper tension after shooting a case of ammo (sorry 1911 guys). I treat my GLOCK  like a lawnmower—it’s hardly ever cleaned or maintained and yet I expect it to do its job with no drama. Its tennifer finish is the best I’ve ever seen at resisting rust, but I did clean it after my last range session, I was shooting rapid-fire drills with TulAmmo in the pouring rain and there was a lot of mud from my magazines inside the grip when I finished. Just because I can abuse the gun without consequences doesn’t mean I should.

I’m not saying the GLOCK 19 is perfect. Sooner or later, some new design will come along and be better enough to make me switch. Maybe it’s the new Caracal; I haven’t tried one of those yet. Straight out of the box, the GLOCK  does have a couple of flaws you can correct with easily available aftermarket parts. But that is another story! Stand by for an article on how to optimize your GLOCK for concealed carry, coming soon.

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Comments (63)

  1. Mike, nice article, thank you. I have a Gen 4 Glock 19, and want to get CCL. What holster do you recommend, please?

    Regards,

    John Butler

  2. own severalGlocks ,and the Glock 19 is one of my favorites. It has mild manners for recoil, high capacity for ammunition, very accurate, and extremely dependable. The main reason I own handguns is for conceal and carry. I have a Glock in the 45 caliper, the 40, a nine millimeter, and the 357 sig. the Glock 19 is a generation 4 While the 45 is a Glock 30s.. The Glock 23 is a generation 3 and the 357 sig is also a generation 3. I also have a Glock 27. By far, the Glock 19 is the most pleasurable to shoot. that’s for stopping power, all of these guns fall short of the kinetic energy human beings can generate while running at you. Formula to use 1/2 body weight times feet per second X feet per second divided by a slug which is 32 .1740486
    this will give you the foot pounds energy a person can generate running at you. When you do the math, you’ll see placement is what counts.

  3. This article illustrates exactly what evolved for me. I carried a 1911 for years until the Chief wanted us to carry a “non cocked and locked” sidearm. We were issued Sigs (220’s and 226’s). The trigger on the Sigs really didn’t do it for me. I wanted my 1911 back. Now I’m retired. Before my father passed away, he gave me a Block 19. At first I was hesitant. After a few hundred rounds I have discerned that it is really an outstanding PDW platform, suiting my CCW needs. I installed the “Snake Eyes” sights (since I’m getting old and a little blind) as well as a tac light and laser for home defense deployment. All in all the Block 19 is perfect for me as my “carry” PDW! So, in my opinion, this article is “right-on”.

  4. I didn’t know crap 30-40 years ago and asked a gun shop owner/full time cop for a recommendation and that was a GLOCK 19 and Walther PPK,
    to this day and many other guns tried and sold. I thank “Tiny” who has since passed away. Another old friend died and willed me his
    stage coach 12 guage, works for me!

  5. For years I had to carry a government issued Beretta 96 D/A in plain clothes. Impossible to conceal in anything short of sub-zero parka. Now retired in a southern state where shorts and T-shirts are the norm. The Glock 19 is so much easier to conceal and much quicker with the first aimed shot. And the lighter recoil of the 9mm makes up in accuracy for the greater shocking power of the .40 S&W.

  6. Like Saul, I chose a Glock 19 as my first personal handgun about 30 years ago. I think that is a great gun, and I love it. That said, I transitioned to the G27 a few years ago (I have small hands) and that was my concealed carry weapon of choice. I acquired a full size G20 in 10mm for hunting a couple years ago – I liked it so much that I added a compact G29 in 10mm to my inventory. Right now I carry the G29 under heavier clothing and the G27 in the summer. The trigger pulls on all of these various Glocks are almost identical, they all point pretty much the same, and I like them all. For competitive shooting, I would probably go with the G19. To stop a threat, I prefer one or two shots from the .40 or 10mm versus four, five or six shots from the G19 (especially since I spend considerable time out in the backwoods).

  7. The Glock 19 is the Toyota Camry of handguns. It does just about everything pretty darn well. It’s the only gun I have two copies of in my safe, both set up exactly the same way. Two Gen 3’s with the same sights and controls. I train and compete with them. Why two when Glock’s reliability is among the best? Simple. Should the unthinkable
    happen, due to bad ammo, a lightning strike or meteorite hit, I have exactly the same gun to keep on keepin’ on. I like the G19 that much.

    Flaws? The Gen3 grip is so-so. Mine wear skateboard tape to improve traction. The extended mag release and slide stop work well for me, also. Some don’t like the stock sights, which are easily replaced. Ugly? Who cares. The beauty is how it works.

    You may have noticed I didn’t include carry in my usage list. The G19 is just a bit too big for concealed carry for me, so a Kahr K9 or MK9 usually resides under my shirt along with a second mag in my pocket. Though different, the Kahr trigger is an easy change from the Glock. Until the G42 successor in the form of a 7+1 single stack 9 makes its appearance – and it will – I’ll stay with my Kahrs for carry.

    But Gawd, do I love the Glock 19!

  8. you say “sorry 1911 guys” because we sometimes make some mods, then you finish your article by saying “Straight out of the box, the GLOCK does have a couple of flaws you can correct with easily available aftermarket parts.” Hmmm

  9. I am currently considering going BACK to a G19. Like the author, I have CCW’d EVERYTHING over the past 30 years, including a G19. Most of those years, though, saw me spending A LOT more time on the range, especially when I was an LEO. My current EDC weapon is an S&W 457, and a .45 demands more range time, especially the compact ones. However, THAT is about to change.

  10. I’ve shot everything from a Kel-Tek to HK, and the Glock 19/17 Gen 4 beats them all. If you have not tried the Gen 4, give it a shot. I have a 17 & 19. The 17 for home defense and the 19 for cc. I love the 1911, BHP, and the Sig P226, and even really like the M&P series, but I carry Glock. You may prefer another pistol, but you can’t beat the Glock. It is without a doubt the best OTS out of the box combat pistol. Cost, safety, reliability, nothing comes close. Nothing.

  11. As simple as I can put it- I play with 1911’s and love them but if the SHTF I would ONLY have a Glock on my side.
    Just my .02

  12. I am not a Glock person, at least yet. But I think some of the Glock people would say that technically the Glock is not “a cocked pistol” in that parts are not in an alignment required to fire the pistol until the trigger is pressed.

    You can see my Colt Officers Model on my website (www.jimguigli.com). A Series 80, it has lost the Series 70 half-cock notch on the hammer, but gained a sort of sear block when the trigger in not depressed. That plus the grip safety and thumb safety make me feel comfortable using cocked-and-locked. To be fair to your concerns, I did know a Security guy who switched from a 1911 to a DA SIG because he lit one off (no harm done) while trying to cuff someone. He’d lost track of safety and finger in the heat of the moment.

    But you have many choices (if you are given a choice) in weapons and, IMHO, the “rattled” person might do a lot of things. Repetitive training will go further in preventing accidents (Negligent Discharges) than fool-proof safeties. I would not want to carry chamber-empty.

  13. Jim, In answer to your question “How many ADs have occurred with Glocks when finger is OFF the trigger?” I would say the answer is none. But I gather your point is that its “simply” a matter of keeping one’s finger OFF the trigger. There are times when even well trained people might find their finger on a trigger when it shouldn’t be. The best example would be in the heat, or immediate aftermath of an adrenaline fueled, life or death encounter. With a light trigger, and no real safety, that’s dangerous. Likewise, things OTHER than fingers can find their way into a trigger guard, and depress the trigger while seating the pistol (into a pocket or purse for example, AFTER a shooting while one might be rattled and/or unable to return the pistol to a difficult to access holster). The Glock DOES have a history of ADs by “trained” people. Like Rick, I don’t consider the trigger safety an actual safety. If a safety is disabled by nothing more than light pressure on the trigger, it’s not a safety in my book. Granted, NO safety will overcome utter idiocy or complete carelessness. But with no actual safety on a cocked pistol with a light trigger, the Glock goes a bit too far for me. I would say it goes too far for many people who carry them.

    1. I have read recently of 2 police officers having AD from their jacket draw strings catching in the trigger. when holstering their gun.

  14. I carry the G27. However, let’s be honest, carrying a Glock with a loaded chamber is like carrying a 1911 with the hammer cocked and the grip safety pinned. You are 4.5 lbs from a discharge, accidental or deliberate. Safety on the trigger? Really?
    This is not a pistol for amateurs. Israeli method (carry with empty chamber, rack slide during draw) is slow but safe for Glocks.

  15. Owned and carried Glocks CCW for the past 12 years (and some years prior to that). After all of this time I have grown very tired of worrying about an AD or ND when holstering the damn thing. The trigger safety is an absolute joke and certainly not reliable. Sure, on the range you my shot slightly faster without a safety or DA/SA to contend with but in the real world I want a larger margin of error. A thumb safety takes no more time to deactivate and is inherently more safe to carry. Also, a hammer fired gun will add a level of safety as well since you can place your thumb on the hammer while holstering. For these reasons I am selling my Glocks and purchasing an HK P30 for my CCW.

    One other thing about Glock are the internal parts are just stamped and very cheap looking. The recoil rod is plastic and breaks as well (had to replace all of mine).

  16. I’m COMPLETELY not getting the author’s point on being FORCED to deal with a double action first-shot when carrying a DA/SA pistol. You can carry a DA/SA COCKED with the safety on! Does this guy SERIOUSLY not know that or is he being intentionally disingenuous? LOTS of people carry pistol cocked/safety on. It’s what I do with my DA/SA version USP40C. “Unsafe” you say? How is it unsafe? That’s the ONLY way a 1911 can be carried (unless your plan in “the moment of utmost need” is to pull the pistol and ask the bad guy to wait while you rack the slide or manually cock. Am I missing something?

  17. The best reason for buying a single column .40 or .45 over a double column (para) is hand size. I am 5′-7″ with small hands. To place my fingertip square on the trigger of a 1911, I need a small grip with a short trigger. See photo of my Officers Model on my website: http://www.jimguigli.com Too many custom 1911s are built with long triggers because they “look good,” when the emphasis should be on hand fit.

  18. ” The barrels on these guns sit lower in your hand compared to other designs, making felt recoil travel more straight back instead of flipping the gun barrel upwards. This is why competition shooters place their hands as high as possible on their pistols. They want the barrel to sit as low as possible relative to their hands. It’s also why a Glock or M&P is more controllable than a Springfield XD in the same caliber and size–sorry XD fans.”–
    Sorry to burst your glock bubble but just not true. I have an XD-40 and a Para 14/45. Both have over 1000 rounds fired and I havent experienced but one failure to eject the case and it was due to my error of not gripping the 1911 in the proper way. Both have been flawlees and Im no cleaning fan either so after a few initial cleaning they must have run now over 400 rounds each with no cleaning. I tried several glocks in 9mm and .40 caliber before deciding on my guns and the glock in 9mm was always more “jumpy ” than both my 40 and 45 and also harder to get back on target. My XD40 recoil is completely straigh and even the range officer could not believe that something in 40 caliber and subcompact size could have so little recoil. My 63 year old uncle who normally fires a .38 caliber pistol got in love with the accuracy and the recoil of my XD-40 so Im just trying to let you know that my experience is very different from what you write and I invite anyone in the Miami ,Florida area to the range to prove me wrong. Im not a fanboy and as well as other things that generate endless discussions like cellphones and game consoles,. I dont buy what the fans say. I buy what I test and find to be ideal for me. I must have rented like 10 different guns in the different ammo calibers that I was interested including glock,M&P,Beretta,FN, etc and this small XD40 won over all of them in accuracy as well as less recoil . My Para have given me absolutely no problems in 1000 rounds and its a tack driver. I dont see why people will pay thousands for 1911 of only 7 to 8 rounds when you can shot 14+1 rounds for under 800 in the Para models. And beside that,.. practice… the more comfortable my gun allows me to practice the better I become and sadly I can not say the Glock fitted me confortably in the recoil department even after trying several models. If it fits you good luck. But you can come with your glock to my range anytime and I should show you which gun have less recoil and more accuracy.

  19. I concel carry a Glock 33 Gen 3, with a mag extension. I love this for concel carry, I love Glock period, the way they feel, look and fire. Great gun, I also have a Glock 31 Gen 3 and thinking of getting the 31 in the Gen 4 model. Love them Glocks. Any one have any comments on these models please let me know. One question I have is will the 31 or 33 fire 38 rounds. Thanks

  20. I have a couple of Glocks and a couple of XDs and I find that for me the XDs are a much better fit for my hand. They are my everyday carry guns. I shoot much more accurately with them. They line up better and the trigger pull is about the same. However, I have a S&W Model 39-2 and Walther P-38 that are really sweet to fire and about the most accurate weapons I own.

  21. I am a retired policeman from Philadelphia, I have owned a lot of different makes of hand guns, I was a Sig Sauer man for years, since I have switched to GLOCKS, which I never liked because of the looks along with double action only. I finally made the switch, after firing both Sigs and GLOCKS on the range and every time the GLOCKS out shoot the sigs, for me they are so much more accurate, even though the Sig shots would have been kill shots, you want every advantage that you can get. I now own and carry a GLOCK 23 GEN 4 and a GLOCK 19 Gen 3, I love the way they shoot.

  22. Great article! I look forward the follow up article on how to optimize your Glock for concealed carry. I too own a Glock 19. I do not carry yet. No permit. Never really wanted to carry until now. I too have owned, traded and sold others firearms however, I love shooting this gun. I have it equipped with a Storm Lake SS ported barrel, Lasermax internal sight, night sights, aftermarket 3# trigger pull (still getting use to, may go back to Glock), Safe-T Lock trigger locking system, & to accommodate my slightly larger hand are a Pachmayr grip with finger grip extensions on all 4 of the 15 round mags. This gun is Fast and Accurate. She is ready to go day or night whether I take aim or just shoot from the hip. I think it will be the perfect concealed carry weapon for me.

  23. I think the Glock is a great gun, if for no other reason than it works right out of the box — very important. But I have small hands and find that there is NO double-column handgun I have tried that is comfortable in my hand. They position my trigger finger at a slight angle. I have not had a chance to try a new single-column Glock. My much-modified Officers Model with short trigger positions the pad of my finger flat on the trigger. (See on my website: http://www.jimguigli.com)

    I don’t undestand the #2 comment about having “to bend the internal extractor to maintain its proper tension after shooting a case of ammo (sorry 1911 guys).” I have put together two Colts, a Commander and my Officers Model, and fitted all the internals myself. Both have had thousands of full strength .45 through them without any maintenence other than cleaning after a hundred rounds.

  24. Bought my first Glock 19 in 1992. Still have it and use it for the range and IDPA. Still on the original guide rod/spring and barrel. Both are way past their life expectancy I’m sure but it shoots flawlessly so I don’t see a need to change them. I carry a G17 with a G26 for back-up. Only mod is extended slide stop and TruGlo TFO sights on all my Glocks.

  25. I own Glock 19, generation 4th. I do not understand why people are saying that gun is ugly and chunky. To me it lies perfectly in my hand and looks beautifully. So simple, nothing exposed. I love it.

  26. I was born and raised in Chicago but currently live in the suburbs. I only moved to the suburbs was not to get away from the the crime which isn’t as bad as people think but because new construction was less expensive and the schools were better. I recently purchased a Glock 19 and love it! It shoots flawlessly with no problems at all. Yes the gun laws in Cook County is ridiculous. I go to Chicago frequently and have never been afraid or concerned for my safety. The vast majority of the crime and murders are committed in the gang and drug areas of the city which is a small part of the city. Most of the so called mouchers don’t vote and aren’t even registered. The people who do vote are hard working law abiding tax payers. So for those of you who are afraid to even lay over at the airport that is the silliest thing I ever heard. Chicago is a great city with a great future!

  27. I put a dab of expoxy glue on my slide release to raise the point of contact – instant improvement

    Had to remove some plastic near the trigger to make it fit the hand , best handgun I ever have shot

  28. Well, the G19 was my first handgun and it’s still the same one I carry more than a decade later. The 2nd Gen Glock 19 is by far just about the perfect self defense weapon. Keep it loaded with 115 +P Corbon’s that hit harder than a wrecking ball and faster than a comet and you have a serious recipe for bad guy stopper. I “want” the G26, but I realize that after I add the extended mag it’s going to be the same thing basically and then I lose 2 rounds so the G19 it is. Hell you can even fire them underwater! I did not believe this until I took mine in a safe pool at my buddies house and it cycled the action the first few shots no problem with +P ammo. The torture tests they perform on these guns during development is really outrageous and on the borderline of gun abuse but the Glocks take it with a smile and ask for more. I think the Glocks in general are MORE reliable and diehard than the AK even, if they were a 9 for reliability with any ammo I would have to rate the G19 as a perfect 10, after tens of thousands of rounds I can 100% say in all honesty that it has never failed to cycle or eject a round. Had a few duds in random boxes of ammo before I started buying only the good stuff and now it gets fed a steady diet of Corbon, Buffalo Bore, and Gold Dot’s for the most part but man I am telling you every single time I pull that trigger it goes bang and the bullet goes where I point it so beyond that all the rest is b#llshit when it comes down to it. Enjoy your glocks and if you don’t have one yet go buy one and experience true as good as it gets reliability in a semiautomatic handgun. Lightweight, nearly indestructible, high capacity, natural pointer, it’s the epitome of function and form as far as I can see it! Shoot safe America. -Gem

  29. BigCorn, if price isn’t a major issue and you can get a used Glock 19… I think you would like it much better than a G17. It is a lot easier to conceal, comes with 15-17 rd mags… and will use the same 33 rd mag as the G17 you were writing about.

    With Glocks… the longer mags of one caliber like 9mm can be used in the smaller framed guns… but the short little mags can’t be used in the compact or full size models.

  30. I’m tempted to get a used G17 and a 33 round mag (or four) just because I know that it’s one of those weapons that the government just doesn’t want me to have. It isn’t practical, but yet I still want one. I am pretty new to the gun world, bought my first one in September 2011, a GP100. I’m also in Illinois so conceal carry isn’t an option, even though I have applied for my Florida non-resident for travel purposes. But a plain-jane G17 with some 33 rounders would be a nice “just in case” gun that I could stash somewhere with a few hundred rounds.
    And, for all of you lamenting Chicago, I agree. Yet, you must realize that the problem is Cook county. I’m outside of Cook, and this state would be as red as Indiana were it not for the politicians and moocher-voters in the most corrupt city and county in the nation.

  31. Lamonte, keep your head down,
    when your in Chi-town. I’ve never been there,
    but I’ve heard most, show no respect for
    Anyone. I feel for you, with family in that
    criminal run city. Everybody out there,
    watch your back, loaded and prepped
    for trouble. We can’t let the bad guys have
    the upper hand. What ever you carry,
    practice and prepare.

  32. @ DAVID # 22 REPONSE;
    DUDE, YOU’RE A RIOT !funny you should say that, my older brother has offered to move me back, get me an apt. even, on the hip north side, if i move back, and take a more hands on approach with my elderly moms. i’d rather fly in & take my chances, stay several months (or as long as it takes) to take care of her business, then bug out pronto. i love & care a great deal about what little family i have left there, but moving back is far from a reality thus far. i do walk a thin line when i go back, between the thugs, assholes & want to be bad guys/real bad guys, plus your run of the mill bullies. and of course chicago’s finest, the police.

    on her block they know me by now for sure. they realize i’m no threat to them as long as they don’t approach me, my mothers property, or her. sort of a de’tente……seems to work so far…..

    that glock with the lazer aim sight sounds interesting…..since i’m what can be catagorized as an older shooter, i notice that my reading glasses play an important part for me getting a clear sight picture when training. only problem is i don’t wear my reading glasses all the time, like only when reading or shooting. so a lazer would be novel to have one day, and eliminate the need for glasses of any type. like those dominate eye bi-focal shooting glasses i’m looking into…..decisions, decisions ?

  33. I have a G21, G23, G27, G35, and a stainless Kimber 1911 among many others. The G21 has so much less recoil than the Kimber, I was shocked. I believe having larger hands is an asset with regards to shooting handguns. I agree with the article only if the gun fits your hands.

  34. @ Lamont.. Man, you a much braver man than I am…I wouldn’t even fly into the Chicago airport to catch a connecting flight out. That town is a hell-hole. Man, its so bad there that the city can’t give away whole city blocks to people if they will onlu live on it and try to improve the area. And its gun laws are foolish.

    I have 33 rd mags for my G19 [and] 22 rd mags for my G23… and yes.. they do extend down below the grip… They are [almost] the length of 2 regular mags put end-to-end.. so that is about how far one will extend below the grip.

    G19 is 9mm [15+1 rds] G23 is .40 [13+1 rds] and G21 is a .45 [13+1 rds]. I prefer the G23 for Concealed Carry…but that G19 is sweet.. w/ 15-17 rd high capacity mags. When you get ready to buy.. go to a gun shop and handle all of them.. you will be looking at around $550+ tax.

    I added a Crimson Trace [CT] Laser [Approx. $170]. There is nothing like seeing that bright red dot on the target… and knowing that your bullet will strike within inches of it… whether the target is at 21 feet or 50 feet. If you put the dot on the center of the chest you’ll hit him some where between the nipples.

  35. @ DAVID;
    dude, i feel you ! your anecdote sounds all to familiar to me on a personal level. i have to go back to the south side of chicago very often….its a working class area where my 95yr. old moms still lives “independently” with the help of home makers, relatives & her god daughter. i have had the same experiance as you, except on a more up close and face to face basis late on a wintery nite on one of my trips to see about her. chicago is not the place that respects or wants a person to defend one self. just be a statistic appears to be mind set of law enforcment and its city leadership…..draconian gun laws are common place there that i find way over the top, and i’m a progressive ! buts that’s another email…..your glocks referenced above are 9mm. i take it ? so the 33rd. mag must extend well past the grip. i love double stack side arms…i have 2, 2011’s in 45acp.,that i really love from STI. damm texans sure know how to make a good gun ! on my wish list is a glock 40cal. one day, 4in barrel. is that the glock 21 ?

  36. Sivispace, you got that right!!!!! With a Glock, you can go from Defcon 4 to Defcon 1 / Thermo-nuclear in a New York Minute!

    I’ve got 33 rd mags for my G19 and a couple 22 rd mags for my G23… talk about serious firepower. That 22 rd mag lays flat and un-noticable inside my concealment vest’s pocket. That’s two reloads in one mag.

    There has been a few times at night, when driving down a darkened city side street… when the gang-bangers were standing / walking in the road 10-15 at a time, eyeing each car as it crowded by… just daring drivers to complain…and the traffic is so that you can’t stop & turn around to avod them… that I was very comforted by all that dependable firepower at arm’s reach. They had better be darn glad none of them had been playing with firecrackers or squeezed off a cap when I drove by. If I couldn’t have driven “over” them, I’d have exercised some serious thinning of the herd.

  37. to Sivispace;
    that’s funny….your comment was # 18 about carrying an uzi ! reminded me of the glock 18 ! NOW THAT’S THE GLOCK I’D LIKE TO HAVE FOLKS ! not happening unless i move out of california….which i have been looking @ other states and localities, like arizon & new mexico…..& thnx again BLAIR for having me reread that article. it was a very well written and informative, sorry if i came off too critical or overly opinionated sports fans….i suppose we sometimes can read into something that is’nt there. also i checked out that CARACAL the author mentioned. one web site that tested the gun said the mid or compact size shot better than the regular or full size gun. cost are around the same i think, but the gun has’nt been out long enough for it to be tweeked in terms of improving the little things to make it competitive with the glocks….but it looks good though !

  38. And carry at least one 33 round magazine. As fast as the Glock trigger resets, you might as well be carrying a mini UZI.

  39. Hey Randy, Lamont is right, keep your head on a swivel.
    The danger around the border are crazy. Keep yourself
    alive and leave the drug dealers, where they drop!

  40. to A. BLAIR;
    you’re right, i took your advice and reread the article…nothing but glowing remarks about the 1911 and 2 others ( i also noted someone has an STI, my custom 1911 commander length is a beefy STI frame). i had shoulder surgery last month, so i think the meds that i am taking for pain managment is affecting my reading comprehension BLAIR. guess i should’nt enter into any written contracts until i get fully healed and rehabed…lol…thanks for pointing that out….also to RANDY WEIGEL…..looks like you are prepared for war down there. been seeing a lot of stuff on t.v. about your area ! keep your head of a swivel pal, sounds like you can take care of yourself, good luck guys !

  41. But how many rounds does that 3″-4″ barreled 1911 carry. My G23 .40 cal has a 15+1 capacity with approx. the same ballistics as a .357 Mag.

    Loaded with Hornady Critical Defense rounds that blossom out to approx. .50 cal in diameter….. at 30 feet, that is abut like hitting someone in the torso with a .50 cal buffalo gun!

  42. I had a Glock 22. I sold it because I just could not shoot it as well as I would have liked. For me it was the trigger. I own several handguns, but carry a Kimber 1911. I don’t think I have ever heard anyone say a good ol’ 1911 doesn’t feel good in their hands, so that’s covered. Even though mine only has a 3″ barrel, its 15 yard accuracy is impeccable. Lastly, its a .45 caliber round. Always like to carry the biggest round possible, as comfortably as possible. The Glock is reliable, but that’s not the only thing at play. Glocks rock, but 1911s RULE!

  43. I too put off buying a Glock after many years of the same thinking like most people. But remembering first shooting a G17 shortly after their introduction many years ago and how accurate the big black block was I decided to take my C/C course so I purchased a G19 15 rnd Glock. My instructor who is an ex-police and like me has several Rugers told me I wouldn’t be disappointed. He was so right just as the old G17 performed many years ago my 19 has improved my grouping. Now for the 1911 I’m never going to bash it, that would be like insulting my grandfather, And yes we own a Colt stainless 1911 and its the mac daddy but I am more comfortable concealing the glock just because of the weight difference. Remember pretty don’t make it a good pistol no more than it makes a good car! Just my oppinion…

  44. My first gun i got was a glock nineteen back in 1992, i had that thing for almost a decade and loved it’s on all levels. Ended up giving it to my dad, Bought and tried out other’s as well but none had the feel and reliability of the glockenspiel(accurate like a clock). I realized that the one that fit just right was my old 19 so i went out and bought another Glock but stepped up to the 23 that was nine years ago. I totally agree with the author about the Glock its an all around reliable and accurate pistol straight out the box even better when you add extension’s to breakdown, slide release, and mag.

  45. I’ve got the Glock 19, 23, & 21. The G23 .40 cal a w/ CT laser is my carry weapon. I highly recommend Glocks. The Glock has the most natural pointability in a gun I’ve ever tried. I’ve NEVER had a glitch or hic-up with any Glock… nor after 3 yrs working at a LE firing range and seeing hundreds of thousands of rounds fired through Glocks ever seen anyone else have a hick-up or glitch with one.

  46. I have never been a fan of Glock due to it just doesn’t feel right in my hand. I am a military guy that is forced to shoot a M9 for my job but carry a 1911 because it feels much better in my hand and yes it cost a little more to get it the way you want it but I feel my life is worth that and will spend the time and money to do that. it is all about what feels right to you and what you are willing to put into it too. I will never knock Glocks for how they are built or how they function but I just don’t like how they feel in my hand and if I can’t get comfortable with it I not going to shoot it as much.

  47. Dito,,,,
    Those are my veryown words & sentiments also….
    Well said…
    I own a mod.19,mod.23,& mod.35,,,,,I pack the 35 & an M1A/M14 simply because they are fighting sons of a bitches ! ! ! :0)
    I live 3mls north of the Rio Grand River… :0)

  48. I own a Glock 19. I do not carry yet and have only had this out to the range once. I need more target practice but so far I love it!

  49. Lamont, if you will reread the article, the
    author states that the safety operation is
    a simple one, not a hindrance. He use
    complementing the 1911 not putting it
    down. Yes it does work in one fluid motion.
    I own and have carried both. I like both
    and don’t feel like everytime some makes
    a statement liking one or the other, they
    are downgrading the other. From your
    opening sentence, you give off that idea
    and it continues to appear as such
    throughout your comment. To each his
    own. Like one or all, but make no mistake,
    it’s just an opinion. There is no one gun
    that fits everyone’s needs or wants.

  50. I purchased a Glock 17 some 20+ years ago, for all the reasons listed. I am utilitarian, purchasing for specific needs and utilizing the one weapon which best suites the most criteria. I wish that I had purchased the long slide at the time, but other than that, after putting multiple hundreds of rounds through it without even a hint of a glitch, I can unreservedly recommend Glock. I have average/smaller hands, so when, after copious amounts of research, I went to purchase one of the new hi-cap, polymer .45s the Pentagon said it wanted, I of course started with Glock. This was, however, before they had redesigned the grip. It felt as though I had a 2X4 in my hand, SO, I ended up purchasing an FNP .45, which you could not tear away from me now. The Austrians were way ahead of the curve on so many levels, simplicity being a primary area. FNP is in the same boat. It is safe to say, I believe, that the polymer revolution is firmly rooted, which has opened huge new horizons for weapons design and manufacture. I DO love that stippling on the new generation Glock grips by the way; any way to have it applied post production?

  51. I have owned all of the weapons that you have discussed. Many of your points are valid. However, you have not mentioned fit and comfort. Once a shooter narrows down a group of reliable weapons, the next step is to find what is comfortable in their hands. I love the way my STI 1911 feels in my hands and use it for IDPA shoots. I can count on my XD as my carry weapon because it feels right. Glocks are not comfortable for me!

  52. well, here we go again…..glock v. the world…..glocks are good for all the reason he noted and we all know, no doubt. i have only fired it a few times. yes. i’m a ole school 1911 fool. know the pros and cons about it as compared to the glocks. my only issue with the article is the thumb saftey being a hinderance to getting your shot off first.

    the way i train, and the few situations that i have had but were prepared for (did’nt have to shoot anyone thank god) was simple. when i had to either put my hand on my sidearm, or present(commander length 45acp custom), i have trained to simply slide my thumb down the thumb safety while again, either presenting it or preparing to engage, its all one motion. returning the thumb safety to safe is nothing more than a matter of muscle memory, if i have presented it or not or in removing my hand off the holstered weapon.

    so i must take exception with the author that the thumb safety is another thing one must do before you fire. again, its all one motion once i put my hand on the weapon period.

  53. “You should not have to know the best trick to bend the internal extractor to maintain its proper tension after shooting a case of ammo (sorry 1911 guys).”

    Well said. When I got my G23, I got a pair of Heinie straight 8s and the grip stippled…still considerably cheaper than the $800+ needed to make a 1911 reliable.

  54. I carry a Glock 27 with the finger extension. The next carry gun I buy will be the Glock 23, the .40 caliber version of the 19. It will carry well and the 27 can use 23 magazines. The author is right, the Glock is the AK-47 of pistols. Ugly? You bet. Fat? A bit. But they are as reliable as your favorite dog and are surprisingly accurate. Like the author, I’ve bought and carried many different guns but I end up with Glock most of the time.

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