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New Anti-Gun Laws Proposed In Illinois—Drastic, Ignorant, and… Hilarious?

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It’s now the time of year when legislators across the country are filing the paperwork proposing new laws which all law-abiding citizens must attempt to follow. Most of these proposed laws will wither on the vine, dying in endless committee meetings or stalemated by the efforts of determined opposition. Relatively few of them get the chance to be voted on by the general assemblies of our states, and only the smallest percentage will ever see a governor’s desk. It can be useful, and sometimes amusing, to see what laws are proposed but never passed. This gives us an idea of what legislators would really like to pass, if they had no opposition to stop them. In the Illinois House of Representatives, Representative Edward Acevedo, a Chicago Democrat, has proposed three new laws for the 2012 session. Lets take a quick look at what laws this typical anti-gun politician will create this year if he gets his way.

The first proposed law is HB 1855, and it makes me angry. HB 1855 empowers the State of Illinois to revoke the Firearm Owner’s Identification Card of any person who fails to report the loss or theft of a handgun within 72 hours of becoming aware of that loss or theft. If HB 1855 becomes law, Illinois citizens have three days to tell police that a pistol was lost or stolen, or they lose their FOID card. So what? Well, you can’t possess any firearms or even live ammunition without that FOID card, or they will charge you with unlawful use of weapons. That’s a felony in Illinois and worth one to three years in the Illinois Department of Corrections. So, let’s recap. Your home was broken into on Saturday and totally ransacked. In the confusion of trying to deal with the insurance company, clean up the place, repair the damage, and still make it to your day job on time, you forget to report that your pistol was stolen until Wednesday afternoon. Under HB 1855, the state will now prosecute you for not telling authorities that you were the victim of a crime quickly enough. Upon conviction you will lose your FOID card and 2nd Amendment rights as long as you live in Illinois. Also, you could go to jail for one to three years if the police ever catch you with any guns or ammo in your possession.  This is the sort of thing Chicago politicians like to call a “reasonable restriction.” The second proposed law is HB 1924, and it should sound pretty familiar by now. After it is signed into law, Illinois residents will have 90 days to provide proof of ownership such as a bill of sale or a receipt for each semi-automatic assault weapon, assault weapon attachment, any .50 caliber rifle, and any .50 caliber cartridge. Oh, and any large capacity ammunition feeding device holding more than 10 rounds of ammo. If you cannot provide proof of ownership, you have to turn it in. After the 90 days is will be illegal to sell, buy, possess, deliver, or manufacture any of those items, too. Got a high capacity mag or a .50 cal round without proof of ownership? It’s a class 3 felony, with two to five years imprisonment for a first offense. You might remember that Springfield Armory, Armalite, LMT, Rock River Arms, and Les Baer told the state legislature last year that they would leave the state and take their jobs with them if such a law passed, since it would become illegal for them to manufacture most of their products. Apparently the loss of many of Illinois’ largest tax paying businesses isn’t much of a concern to Mr. Acevedo, who is going to try again to pass HB 1924 this year.

The third bill filed by Representative Acevedo is HB 1599—if it wasn’t proposed in all seriousness it would have me rolling on the floor laughing; okay, I admit, I’m laughing anyway—which would increase the penalties by one class (more years in jail) for possessing a semi-automatic assault weapon or, get this, high-capacity ammunition. What the heck is high-capacity ammunition? How do I know when I have high-capacity ammunition? Can I have just one round of high-capacity ammunition, or does it become high-capacity ammunition when I have more rounds of ammo than I can count on my fingers and toes? Well, I dug through the text of HB 1599 until I got to the definitions section. There it was, spelled out near the end of the text, and I quote:

 “High capacity ammunition” means ammunition of 50 or more caliber

By 50 or more caliber, I’m going to go out on a limb and assume Representative Acevedo means any cartridges of half an inch diameter or more. Most likely, he means .50 BMG ammunition or larger, because Chicago politicians have been obsessed with banning the big .50 for years. However, definitions matter quite a lot when the time comes to enforce the peoples’ laws. Can you think of any other cartridges more than half an inch in diameter? How about every shotgun round larger than .410? If this law passes, possession of a single round of 28-, 20-, 16-, 12-, or 10-gauge ammunition, even birdshot, would violate the high capacity ammunition law and result in a felony conviction and a year or more in jail sentence.

I know Mr. Acevedo is very serious about passing HB 1599 and I’m sure he will argue as strongly as possible for its consideration. Because I’m an optimist by nature, I’m going to assume that as an elected representative Mr. Acevedo does not actually intend to sentence every skeet and trap shooter in Illinois to jail time. Instead, I’m going to be kind and assume he thinks his law will get rid of big scary guns which he has been told can shoot down airliners and turn an elephant inside out from a mile away. Although his pipe dream HB 1599 will not pass due to the strenuous efforts of pro-gun groups fighting hard for their rights in Illinois, it still accomplishes two things. First, it exposes the ignorance of anti-gun legislators, showing us how little they actually know about firearms and how careless they are in wording their proposed regulations. And second, it gives the rest of us something to point and laugh at.

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Comments (37)

  1. Im in florida, where gun laws are lax, but i used to live up there in Aurora, Il. If i were to think about losing my newly bought 45 springfield, and my 12er i simply wouldnt come back. These people are idiots!!!

  2. There are some fascinating time limits in this article but I don’t know if I see all of them heart to heart. There’s some validity however I’ll take maintain opinion until I look into it further. Good article , thanks and we would like extra! Added to FeedBurner as nicely

  3. …and gee, El Presidente is from which State? I implore all of you to register to vote and show up at the poles so we can prevent this travesty of a political leader from being re-elected this November and defanging those proposing this crap in Il
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  4. Illinois should have sanctions from the Federal Government for violating the US Constitution, and passing laws that deny people the freedoms it gives. If Illinois wants to be a part of the United States it should embrace the U.S. Constitution or get out of the Union.

  5. i guess the people of illinois will not buy licences or hunt now . the game wardens will have to find some other work. let the state find the millions of dollars the sportsman spends each year on hunting and fishing.

  6. Welcome to the commy state of illinois!! this piece of human feces (acevedo) wants to make chicago’s short comings the problem of the whole state…just because human feces (acevedo) constituents are shooting themselves in the streets of chicago, he is clueless on fixing…typical liberal blames everybody but themselves…if he has his way ( which i don’t believe it will happen )two groups of people will be able to carry firearms, the police and his constituents, with law abiding peoples unable to protect themselves, US, in between…the PROBLEM will only get worse…his constituents don’t seem to fear the law to much…what his constituents need to fear is WE THE PEOPLE…………

  7. THese wannabe Al Capone chicago politicians is really pissing us off look at the past election when only 3 counties out of the whole state voted for Quinn. Chicago is a hole and good luck taking away our guns most of us have inherited shotguns and pistols and there ain’t no way anybody is going to give up there guns because some immigrant politician tells us to if Acevedo doesn’t like guns then leave America and that goes for every antigun idiot.

  8. We all need to wake up and take action. There is a massive socialist movement underway. Obama and his henchman like those here in Il want all of us dependent on the government with no means of defense. Where are the militias?

  9. I’m not as trusting and optimistic as you. I think he fully intends to make criminals out of trap and skeet shooters. I think he means to eliminate shooting as a sport, criminalize all gun ownership, and he doesn’t mind running straight over the Constitution to do it.

  10. Everybody says “That’s why I don’t/won’t/used to live in Illinois. Well let me tell you as they say in the movie business. This show is “Coming to a town near you” unless EVERYBODY GETS OUT AND VOTES. The truth of the matter is, if I’llbombya gets another term in the White house we’re all done here on CTD. As a matter of fact. they will succeed in putting another entire industry out to pasture. This guy doesn’t care about CREATING JOBS, he only cares about prolonging his agenda of taking away everybodies guns. From the time he was first elected in Illinois until present day, his only mission is to become dictator of the “FREE” world. Our job as Americans is to vote him out and keep the country FREE.

  11. It appears Acevedo has a challenger who is for conceal and carry.

    There are two challengers. First one is a person named Morfin who is against CCW. But the second one is named Trutin who is for CCW. Below I included two questionaires that were filed that I found doing a google search. If you look at question 95 it covers CCW.

    http://www.iviipo.org/Prim2012/Jan11-SW/Morfin,%20C%202RD-D.pdf
    http://www.iviipo.org/Prim2012/Jan11-SW/Trutin,%20J%202RD-D.pdf

    I will be contacting to send a donation to Trutin. anything to mess with Acevedo at this point. Someone needs to stand up against Acevedo as he tramples our rights over and over again.

  12. It does not matter what the legislator intended. The law says “50 caliber or larger”. period.

    So the law, as written, will only require people to turn in any weapon or ammunition that is over 50 inches in diameter.

    The largest artillery piece I know of is Nazi Germany’s Gustav gun at 31″ … if someone makes a bigger one, I guess Illinois stands ready to seize it.

  13. From Acevedo’s webpage: “I will always support legislation that defends the individual rights of people,….” I guess that means every other right excluding the 2nd amendment. What a piece of shit.

  14. To some politicians and administrators, nonsensical laws and regulations are the best kind. If you have enough of them you can arrest *anybody*, and they’ll never be able to prove they didn’t break the law.

  15. Acevado was a cop before becoming a Rep. It is disturbing that he is as ignorant as he is. I have no hope for Illinois or the fools running the City of Chicago.

  16. I think you’re wrong about the ammo thing.

    I looked it up and the bill, as you copied, plainly states “50 caliber”. No decimal point.

    So it appears as long as your rifle doesn’t shoot 1270mm ammunition you should be good to go.

  17. Texas ,come to Texas gun friendly to manufacture of weapons , we want you to live in Cooke county , we are close to anything you need, so go to where you can make the weapons , ammo that you want to make and a area where we understand that what you do is important to the whole country. low taxes and no state imcome tax, good workers and you can find great home prices, with millions of customers and a equal distance from the east coast to the left coast<sorry Califoria , I did mean sorry too. CCw is all over the state and we understand how you are in the business to make money as we are too.

    texas

  18. This state is so %$#%$#^$%@#^@ up it is unbelievable. The only state without CC. The worse state in terms of unemployment. The worst state in terms of debt. If I get my house sold we are out of here. This is a state going down the tubes. It is only going to keep to sucking the life out of the productive members of this state. They increase taxes 67%, increase spending by over $1 billion dollars, and the deficit gets worse. Who votes these people in? The people riding the cart.

  19. As a MO resident I would like to officially invite all of the aforementioned manufacturers (Springfield Armory, Armalite, LMT, Rock River Arms, and Les Baer) to make the short trip across the border so that they can enjoy providing their products in a state which will appreciate them much more. I am sure that we could find some fine locations in Springfield, MO so that Springfield Armory could keep their name.

  20. Sounds like yet another attempt to invoke our second admin right. If springfield armory was to leave ill I know they would be very welcomed here in Texas

  21. What difference would these laws make to a murderer or armed robbery suspect ? NONE ! All bad guys would find it easier to get a hold of them and we would not have a chance to defend ourselves or our family’s without going to jail and become a felon ! Who are the dumb-asses that voted this guy into office anyway. And will they still vote for him next time ??

  22. If HB 1924 passes, I invite Springfield Armory, Armalite, LMT, Rock River Arms, and Les Baer to move to Obion County, Tennessee. We need the jobs. I for sure would love to work for any of them.

  23. this is all….just so stupid. I went to dig up Edward’s email address, and what do you know? It’s bouncing back all email. I’m going to call him when I get off work. He’s a freaking idiot.

  24. The presence of Rahm Emanuel is enough reason for me to stay out of IL. Sounds like this legislator has been visiting Calif.

  25. WHEN I WAS YOUNG I LIVED IN ILL. I THIUGHT ABOUT MOVING BACK WHEN GETTING OUT OF SERVICE ,IM SURE GLAD I DIDNT AS FOR THE STATE LAWS DO NOTHING TO CURB THE CRIMANAL THAT INTENT ON BREAKING THE LAWS, I BOUGHT MY FIRST 22 CAL RIFLE WHEN I WAS JUST 11 THERE ON NOW YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CARD ,I WILL NEVER GO BACK TO THAT STATE FOR NOTHING UNTILL THEY GET THERE SHIT STRAIT.

  26. I grew up in Illinois most of my life. But stupid laws like this is the reason I no longer live there. It’s tough to be a gun owner in that state. And it shouldn’t have to be that way. And I’m glad I no longer live there to deal with the stupid shit. That state has bigger problems then these gun laws. And sad thing about it is. Their not even smart enough to realize it.

  27. Sadly, these bills also serve a more sinister purpose. As someone who is involved in this stuff, I know my group has to expend precious energy ensuring these things do not get legs. It’s the stupid ones you think nobody would ever vote for that can slide through. So we end up using a lot of valuable time ensuring this stuff dies and not as much on the bills we really want to see passed.

  28. So if HB 1924 is passed, will it be illegal to possess a muzzleloader? Most muzzleloaders are .50 caliber or larger. Thats pretty pathetic if they’d make you register a muzzleloader lol. But I guess people are using them old flintlocks to shoot down airliners lol.

  29. Wow, so a semi-auto 12 gauge shotgun with any sort of a rail or collapsable stock would REALLY get you into hot water if you had any ammo for it and 2/3rds of these craptastic laws passed.

    So, if I were to visit IL from MO to hunt with a shotgun I’d be unable to do so? Or does my MO hunting license save me from these issues due to the fact I am not an IL resident anymore?

    I’m surprised that tehse don’t just carry monitary fines so that they can be claiming to be ‘doing something’ about the state of IL’s finances.

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