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Actor Vince Vaughn: How Mass Killers Pick Out Venues Where Their Victims Are Sitting Ducks

Shooter’s Log Contributor and President of the Crime Prevention Research Center President John R. Lott recently explained how actor Vince Vaughn’s defense of the Second Amendment was spot-on, in particular about how to stop mass shootings. From Vaughn’s interview in the UK edition of GQ: “It’s well known that the greatest defence against an intruder is the sound of a gun hammer being pulled back. All these gun shootings that have gone down in America since 1950, only one or maybe two have happened in non-gun-free zones. Take mass shootings. They’ve only happened in places that don’t allow guns. These people are sick in the head and are going to kill innocent people. They are looking to slaughter defenceless human beings. They do not want confrontation. In all of our schools it is illegal to have guns on campus, so again and again these guys go and shoot up these f***ing schools because they know there are no guns there. They are monsters killing six-year-olds.” Media Matters attacks Vaughn by pointing to a flawed report by Bloomberg’s Everytown, but of course, Media Matters doesn’t respond or even acknowledge all the errors that have been previously pointed out with Bloomberg’s report. See also here.VVCOVER_GQ_29May15_b_1-copy Killers often openly talk about their desire to attack where guns are banned. Last June, Elliot Rodger, who killed six people in Santa Barbara, Calif., explained his own choice. In his 141-page “Manifesto,” Rodger turned down targets because he worried that someone with a gun would cut short his killing spree.

That same month, Justin Bourque shot to death three people in Canada. His Facebook page made fun of gun bans, with pictures of defenseless victims explaining to killers that they weren’t allowed to have their guns.

This past week we finally got a look at the diary of the Batman movie theater killer, James Holmes, and it was clear that he was considering both attacking an airport and a movie theater. But he turned down the airport option because he was concerned about their “substantial security.” Of course, there are numerous other examples such as the Columbine killers opposing the concealed carry law that was then working its way through the state legislature. The Majority leader of the state House at the time, Doug Dean, told John Lott that Klebold had written his state legislators opposing the legislation. The bill would have allowed people to carry permitted concealed handguns on school property. The killers timed their attack for the very day that final passage of the law was planned for in the legislature. Their attack derailed the passage for years, but few talk about the fact that their attack was timed for just hours before the final vote.

For those interested, here is a list of concealed handgun permit holders who have stopped mass public shootings.

To read Vaughn’s other pro-gun excerpts from the GQ UK magazine interview, click here.

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Comments (24)

  1. How true Vince Vaughn’s words cry out now after the church shooting in South Carolina. Sitting ducks are easy safe targets.Most if not all killers are cowards they pick on the weakest ones to attack to include gun free zones like most churches or schools.
    No law can prevent violence that has been going on before guns were Invented. Just look at the Boston bombing. It’s against the law for individuals to create bombs, it didn’t prevent the bombing.
    To many examples to include here. Bottom line if you disarm the population you will have millions more victims, and will no longer be called citizens but subjects of the Realm.

  2. Vince Vaughn had guts to speak out like this, especially in Hollywood. This is the kind of bravery that could turn this country around, which is why the Left places so much effort into silencing people.

  3. It is time that all states approved LAW ABIDING CITIZENS TO LEGALLY CARRY ANY FIREARM THEY CHOOSE TO. OUR AMERICAN CONSTUTION GRANTS US ALL THAT RIGHT

  4. I live in Kentucky, where there are concealed carry laws, and also open carry laws. According to KY State law, anyone legally permitted to own a handgun can openly carry that weapon, at least in most places. Obviously government buildings aren’t on that list, and as much as I’m in favor of carry rights, I agree that’s probably smart. Also schools, hospitals, liquor stores, and any business who receives more than half their sales from alcohol. Recently, I went to the theater, with one of my children, and their grandma, my mother. I carry my holstered Glock absolutely everywhere I go that KY law states it is legal to, including the theater on many occasions. No psycho is going to catch me off guard and unable to defend my family or myself. On this particular visit, one of the employees told me that they don’t allow weapons on the premises, in violation of State law. There was a line, and we had little time to make it in to the theater, so I didn’t make a fuss, and returned the gun to the car while they got our tickets and snacks. What is the best thing to do in such a situation though, without causing a big disruption, which I don’t want to do, not with children around. And especially without seeming combative about the problem, something anyone carrying a weapon should try to avoid when possible. But, though I’ve researched the laws here, and know that, legally at least, they can’t force me to leave my weapon behind, I’m really unsure of how to handle the situation. I do not have a concealed carry permit, and have no plans to get one. Whenever I’m carrying, anyone with eyes will know it, and know that there is at least one person in the vicinity capable of putting a stop to their violence, should such ever happen. I don’t want that, but I refuse to be unprepared, just in case. The theater has no signs stating weapons are not permitted, and from what I’ve read on the KY laws, it really wouldn’t matter, legally at least, if they did.
    Apologies for my rambling. What should I do in such a situation? Should I simply remind them, calmly, that federal and state laws permit it? That requiring someone to remove their perfectly legal protection technically breaks those same laws? Not to mention putting and leaving a weapon in a car that isn’t being watched. I haven’t been back to the theater since then, and would like to be prepared the next time I do go.

    1. Just my opinion: don’t patronize facilities that won’t allow you to have your firearm concealed on their premises. Don’t give them your money, period. Go elsewhere.

      Or convince management that their policy is not a good idea. Have you spoken with a manager?

      Now, you could have just hidden it and never have told them; however, if you had to use your firearm, you would have gone to jail and would’ve been charged.

      On the other hand, in the evenings, most theaters have an armed police officer on the premises. But then again, being in an officer’s uniform, he’s got a big red target on his back.

    2. Each state has their regulations with regards to firearms and/or weapons. I live in Tennessee, and any establishment that decides that they do NOT want us citizens to be able to protect ourselves, must post a placard in conspicuous place at their main entrances in a certain size, easily readable notice. It can be the “gun” symbol with a line through it, or it can be a “No Weapons Allowed” worded signage. If you look at the door glass or walls upon entering an “Establishment”, and do NOT see a sign, at least in Tennessee, you may carry a concealed OR open weapon, as long as you have a carry permit.
      I go to Hooters and other eating places, LEGALLY and carry my weapon, I just don’t drink any alcohol. I carry into the City Hall Building here too, as long as I don’t go to the “court proceedings floor”.
      But, I carry everywhere that I am “entitled” to, and sometimes where I am not, as I keep the mindset that it would be better to be judged by 12, than carried by 6. My RIGHT to self defense trumps the Government, or establishments right or ability to refuse me that RIGHT( not a privledge )AT LEAST THAT IS THE WAY I THINK ABOUT IT. if I ever had to use it where I was prohibited from having it, I guess then that is something I would maybe still be ALIVE to have to deal with.
      Just like NYC, or WASHONGTON, D.C… If I had to go there, I would carry anyways. I just avoid going in the first place to those GOD FORESAKEN PLACES!

  5. I recently was in a discussion with a gun control advocate, and he brought up the Batman movie theater shooting to support his argument. I left him speechless when I asked him this question.

    ” How many innocent people do you think would have been injured or killed if after the gunmans appearance, and maybe his first round fired, if only 10 to 20 law abiding citizens in the theater, (among the hundreds), drew their legally Concealed Carry guns and presented him with a hail of bullets in his direction” ?

    Food for thought !

    1. Well said.

      And hopefully, they are all well trained and hit their intended targets.

      Should they miss? They are responsible for every shot fired, including shots that damage property, hit innocent bystanders, etc.

  6. For once we finally have a HOLLYWOOD actor who’s not part of the P.C police.He speaks out for all of us second amendment supporters.Thanks Vince for your thoughtful comments.In 2016 it is important to elect a pro second amendment president more than ever now.

  7. I have enjoyed the movies Mr. Vaughn has been in and now I will enjoy them even more knowing he is a man with guts as-well-as brains. Why more people cannot figure the simple equation about gun-free zones is beyond comprehension. I guess they are trying to impress someone!

  8. Kudos to Vaughn for being on the right side.Want to see Hollywood change? Redistribution!!!! Why does Oprah need a billion dollars?Why do these losers need to make all that loot? Lets leave them five million TOPS.Tear down the mansions and create lebensraum for the rest of LA.I think redistribution of assets would scare the begeebers out of that worthless crowd but gun sales would go through the ROOF! Because its their money and not ours.Enough said ,I feel better now. Oh and by the way who gets to collect all the loot? ME of course, all in the name of progress.

  9. Hey Tombstone, I read American rifleman,concealed carry, gun digest,and many others.I was trying to make a point about the mainstream media where all of the numb brains believe everything they hear at 5:30 every night on the national broadcast stations. That is where the message has got to go to get any traction in this country.We all know who controls those guys. That’s all i was trying to say.

  10. @ Petedub: the “progressive, socialist, communist,left wing,Marxist DEMOCRATS” that are in our government TODAY twist words to other meanings. Yes, you are correct if “you look up what LIBERAL definition in a dictionary is”. Unfortunately, in the world of POLITICS the word is just the opposite. You may really CONSIDER YOURSELF a ” liberal”. But if you are appalled by King Barry, and Hill Clinton, nancy Pilosi , al not-so- Sharpton , etc, and you vote more towards the middle, or right leaning, the you are not “Liberal”( with a capital L) you are “liberal in your beliefs”. Liberals believe that only the police nd the military should have guns, and if you need protection, that you should call police or depend on big government.. Remember: the Librals, who support the homosexual agenda, have transformed the word “gay” from being happy to a sexual description. Just my views, and may peace find us all.

  11. pete rub a dub- Liberals by political definition abhor individual freedoms. Where have you been lately? Obama is the poster child of Liberalism. Redistribution of wealth, incentive destruction,attacks on police are all what liberals strive for.The all powerful GOVERNMENT is their religion where rights are doled out by an all powerful leadership.Gun owners threaten total control of the state.Embrace chaos,race warfare,class warfare and a godless society and you have become a liberal. Become a marxist andd you are the perfect liberal. Please stay up North and do not infect the South.Embrace your liberalism and move to Baltimore -the Democrat Urban City

  12. I would like to see the stories of how someone protected their selves or someone else by having carried a concealed handgun.The stories of people protecting their property or children when a perp decides to crash the door at 3am.Those stories are high in number.They just do not happen once or twice a year. We all know who controls the media and they are not about to let those stories through and when they do the slant and biased information is all you hear. As Richard says it may be to late.That will not stop me from continuing to fight for our rights.That means all of them,not just the 2nd amendment there are many more parts to that constitution.Sorry for the rant it just aggravates me.

    1. Stories about self-defense wit firearms? The “American Rifleman” magazine carries a page of them every month, culled from newspaper reports from around the country. The magazine comes with membership in the NRA.

  13. As a liberal, I wish people would stop confusing totalitarian leftists with liberals. A true liberal abhors government intrusion into individual rights.

    Only people who hate freedom could favor government intrusion into the basic human right of armed self defense. You know, Nazis, Socialists, Fascists, and other people like that who believe that the government power is more important than individual rights.

    Just because they claim to be “liberal” does not mean they are. True liberals (look up the word in the dictionary) favor individual freedom, and there is no freedom more important than the freedom to defend oneself from threats.

    1. PeteDub, Well, I mean no personal offense to you, but the old quote from Shakespeare’s Juliet,:

      “Tis but thy name that is my enemy;
      Thou art thyself, though not a Montague.
      What’s Montague? it is nor hand, nor foot,
      Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
      Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
      What’s in a name? that which we call a rose
      By any other name would smell as sweet;

      You say, “Just because they claim to be “liberal” does not mean they are. ”

      Which brings us back to the point of what’s in a name. True liberals, in the vein of John Locke and our forefathers, would be today called conservatives. However, The leaders of the current democrat party call themselves liberals, and a majority of the followers of the democrat party are true socialists and marxists. Fact: There is nothing in the administration of Obama, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, etc. that is remotely in the vein of classical liberalism.

      In today’s jargon, Lliberalism=socialism=communism=marxism.

      At one time, if a person was said to be gay, it meant that person was happy, having a grand old time. It don’t mean that any more. Today, if you say that you are gay, folks will most assuredly assume that you are not Hetero. Likewise, if you say that you are a liberal, folks will assume that you are aligned with the goals of Obama, Reid, Pelosi, etc.

      Just saying. “What’s in a name”, know whut I mean?

    2. I pretty much stated the same as your post to Petedub . I hadn’t read all the posts before responding, and I agree with what you stated 100 %. Now, I just wish the black voters would learn some history( true history) and turn out to vote for those that truly want to have “their backs” instead of being held down in poverty, so they can be a real part of America, not just a voting block for the Democrat machine. Thanks for your post. You put it much better than I stated it. Peace

    1. “Preaching to the Choir:” Definitely! The post provides more ammunition worth adding to my already thick arsenal of facts that will serve to blunt any liberal hogwash that attempts to applaud gun control…should the need arise, however.

  14. It seems to me that the left is much better at getting its message out there than the conservatives. Whether it’s justification for the misdeeds of a liberal politician, or why guns should be banned, the liberals and their lock step media trumpets their message, while the truth is disseminated with barely a whisper. Until we can do a better job of broadcasting our message we will continue to lose ground .It may be too late, already.

    1. Richard, I agree with you fully, but the problem is not that supporters of the 2nd amendment, or conservatives aren’t getting their message out, the problem is that the bulk of the mainstream media has the game stacked against us.

      Everyone from your average network newscaster to the hollywood folks working against us, from Kiddy cartoons on up to most adult entertainment, gun owners and conservatives are made out to be on the same level as Neanderthals.

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