Tough on Crime, Not Guns — Not in California

By Dave Dolbee published on in General, Legal, News

Politicians often give speeches promising stiffer penalties for criminals in an effort to make the people feel safer. Whether or not they are actually safer is often debatable, however. Enhanced penalties for criminals committing their offense with a firearm is a good example.  These laws keep some of the worst offenders off the streets longer and is generally supported by all citizens—or so I thought. That is why it was such a head scratcher when California Governor Jerry Brown recently signed a bill into law removing mandatory minimum sentences for criminals who use guns in their crimes.

Gavel with American flag

I have never claimed to understand the motives or reasoning of most politicians—especially those who favor gun control and attempt to trample our Second Amendment rights. However, reducing the sentences of criminals who use a firearm to commit a crime, while touting how “tough” you are on guns has me befuddled. Perhaps someone reading this will be better able to explain it to me. After all, anyone who is pro Second Amendment, likely has never found anything in common with lawmakers touting a new proposal as “common sense gun control,” in the first place, but this goes beyond even that.

The new law, SB 620, coupled with other legislation about to take effect, clearly shows that Jerry Brown wants stiffer regulations for law-abiding citizens, while reducing penalties for criminals using a gun in the commission of a crime! This is evidenced by the fact that Governor Brown’s new law follows California’s new requirements for firearms retailers to add a warning to an already lengthy packaging and literature requirements for firearms and ammunition.

Let’s recap this argument, just in case you are having as much trouble following this as I am. Firearms retailers are required to put bigger warning labels on their products because those who legally buy them might not understand firearms and ammunition could be dangerous if not used properly. However, criminals who purposefully use a gun in the commission of a crime won’t be required to do jail time. Someone please explain this to the rest of us…

Larry Keane of the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) weighed in saying, “That’s not logical. It’s ludicrous. Prior to this, the law in California required a criminal be sentenced to an additional 10 years on top of the sentencing for their particular crime.”

Few reading this will be surprised at this next part. Governor Brown has a reputation for attracting the idealistic and untraditional. In fact, he earned the sobriquet (nickname) of “Moonbeam” decades ago by a columnist who called California, “The world’s largest outdoor mental asylum.” Proving the nickname to be fitting as fitting today as it was in the 1970s, Moonbeam was not alone in enacting this asinine law; he had the help and consent of the entire California legislature that voted to send it to the governor for his signature!

National Shooting Sports Foundation Logo

Moreover, what prompted the legislature you might wonder…? SB 620, started with Sen. Steven Bradford (D-Gardena) who introduced the bill after a 17-year-old involved in a drive-by shooting was sentenced to 25 years even though he denied shooting the gun. Minimum mandatory sentences are typically mandated by the legislature to ensure an even application during sentences and guard against judges who are soft on sentencing. Governor Brown wants to give the power back to the judges to pick and choose when a person convicted of a crime deserves the enhancement, which promotes the revolving door style of justice the law was designed to prevent.

As Larry Keane put it, “It’s comforting to know that California’s law-abiding gun owners will continue to be put under a magnifying glass to satisfy a political agenda that demonizes them while not accomplishing any true measure of safety. Meanwhile, criminals who openly victimize the Golden State’s citizens won’t have to worry about carrying that gun to commit their crimes. Gov. Brown says they no longer have to do the added time.

“This shows clearly that Gov. Brown, and the rest of the anti-gun California legislature, is more interested in scoring cheap points with their political base instead of pursuing and enforcing laws that will protect all citizens.”

How do you feel about California’s new law? Can you explain it? If you were the governor, what law would you push for? Share your answers in the comment section.


Growing up in Pennsylvania’s game-rich Allegany region, Dave Dolbee was introduced to whitetail hunting at a young age. At age 19 he bought his first bow while serving in the U.S. Navy, and began bowhunting after returning from Operation Desert Shield/Desert Storm. Dave was a sponsored Pro Staff Shooter for several top archery companies during the 1990s and an Olympic hopeful holding up to 16 archery records at one point. During Dave’s writing career, he has written for several smaller publications as well as many major content providers such as Guns & Ammo, Shooting Times, Outdoor Life, Petersen’s Hunting, Rifle Shooter, Petersen’s Bowhunting, Bowhunter, Game & Fish magazines, Handguns, F.O.P Fraternal Order of Police, Archery Business, SHOT Business,, and others. Dave is currently a staff writer for Cheaper Than Dirt!

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Comments (127)

  • millbob


    Mr. Applegate, The increasing levels of violence in rural areas can in large part be attributed to the influx of criminal elements from urban areas/large cities in addition to the influx of illegal immigration. Unfortunately, the criminal goes where the opportunities are. Small towns often don’t have the police resources and manpower to combat this problem. So while I was a bit premature to claim flatly that small towns exhibit less gun violence than large liberal enclaves and ghettos, much of the blame still rests with the exportation of the criminal element from urban areas.


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  • Jeffrey Decuypere


    This topic is personal to most people. Just one final question on the topic. Are we still a free people when the average person cannot defend themselves against the government? Be it local, state or federal. When the system is rigged against the average person based on money. For example the Johnson amendment. Where does the 1st amendment prohibit church’s from free speech? And are you still innocent until proven guilty? Roy Moore for example. How many innocent people are in prison because there poor? Keep in mind the system of taxation provides funding for prisoners. Does the government exercise it’s authority on behalf of the commonwealth or over the commonwealth? If each of us will thoughtfully answer this question for ourselves. I believe it reveals the reasoning behind the laws conceived by government, be it local, state or federal. We must come together in truth or this nation is finished. The question I purpose is are we still one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all?.


  • Spencer


    I can recall from over 35 years ago a state had the legal right to only make a law more strict than a Federal law, but they never had the power to make it more lenient. I’d be surprised if that isn’t still true. So if I’m correct, someone has buried that information somewhere deep.


  • Jeffrey Decuypere


    Hey Hemmingway, the system is censoring the replies. If Dave is doing it i would be shocked. Some of it must be the system or his superiors. The topics are highly charged. Guns, the constitution and rights provided within the document. Establishment politician’s and there power hungry, greed driven friends and family. It’s all magnified by the times we live in. President Trump has exposed the dangerous government that George Orwell wrote about in his book “1984”. The truth is whatever they say it is. There is a measure of irony in a statement you made. Everybody that’s getting rich currently. Will be S.O.L. when the establishment gets it’s way. From gun owners/rights groups to sporting goods manufacturers to on-line retailers. The 2nd amendment protects capitalism as well.


  • Jeffrey Decuypere


    Well the balls in your court Dave. Personally, I’m with Hemmingway! I think the deep state is the greatest threat to the United States of America, PERIOD!


    • james hemmingway


      Here is some information I sent to Mr. Dolbee, maybe he will find some of the information useful. I also included the 16 BILLS that are being proposed in our House and Senate combined. I always wondered why the NRA is so quiet regarding even the possibility of STAGED PSY OPS and STAGED FALSE FLAG EVENTS??? I have read that initially the NRA supported gun-control regulations to some degree. Maybe they are afraid to be politically incorrect and lose support base or maybe they have been compromised. I understand that Wayne La Pierre gets compensated $972,000 per year but judging by how things have been going recently, something does not add up. An organization such as the NRA should be led by passionate pro-Constitution individuals regardless of compensation.

      Mr. Dolby, Thank you again for your response and your courage to undertake this task.

      I don’t know if any of this information will be helpful to you, but I included it just in case you might find it useful. I am disabled and have difficulty walking but I tried my best to include some main points. Feel free to use them or not and feel free to correct me if I made a mistake. The medication that deals with my spine injuries makes life challenging but I have that small luxury that most people don’t have, time.

      House Resolution 5736:
      H.R. 5736 was originally introduced in the House of Rep. in 2012, originally titles, “Smith-Muntz Modernization Act”
      To make available in the United States: motion pictures, films, videos, and other materials prepared for decimation throughout the press Publications, Radio, the Internet, and Other Information Media including Social Media and through Information Centers and Instructors.

      This BILL never made it out of the Committee Stage, instead it was TAGGED in the NDAA of 2013 where it amended the original “Smith-Muntz Act of 1948″
      ORIGINAL Smith-Muntz Act Outlawed Propaganda but the New Act makes it legal.
      The government can disseminate ANY MATERIAL it wants through the Press, the Social Media, Information Centers, and Instructors.

      Instructors means teachers in schools, and they have legal authority to mess up the minds of our children.
      They legalized the Lies and made the Truth illegal.
      This is why we have to be very skeptical of anything you see on Television, everything you see in Facebook, and on Twitter. They get to choose and pick the information that gets fed to you and you will most likely see feeds from the Controlled Media.

      There are many start-up Psychological Operations Companies out there pretending to be the Independent Media when they are really not. You mostly get to see what they want you to see and you are only free to do what they tell you.
      ***The Original jSmith-Muntz Act of 1948 was passed to promote a Positive Image of the United States abroad.
      The Modern Smith-Muntz Act is now used to vilify or target and stifle the opposition, Negative Propaganda.

      Regarding the House Resolutions, I was told that page 326 to page 328 has some important information.

      Also there are several companies / “Casualty Simulation Companies” that are bing talked about:
      (1) Crisis Cast – up to 400 fully-trained Crisis Actors including Amputees. Crisis Actors are fully rehearsed along with professional teams that take care of make-up, prosthetics, pyrotechnics, wardrobe, special effects, covert and aerial footage. ***Provides live, immersive simulations. Crisis Actors rehearse and deliver highly credible, immersive events which they can film and supply.***
      (2) Crisis Solutions, based out of London England next to British GCHQ
      (3) Flalshpoint – Reality based Training
      (4) Magnum Services – Casualty Simulation Specialists, ISO 9001Reg.
      (5) The Rendon Group – basded out of Canada
      (6) Crowds on Demand – owned by Adam Swartz – a graduate from University of Southern California – and based out of Los Angeles.

      Many of us older folks should be somewhat familiar with “OPERATION NORTHWOODS” and “OPERATION MONGOOSE” back in the days. Some of the documents have been declassified. What is of importance is that people know about and understand the recent STAGED PSY OPS and STAGED FALSE FLAG EVENTS.

      Information is floating around that “Shannon Watts”, the founder of “Moms Demand Action”, may actually be “SHANNON TROUGHTON”, Vice-President of Corporate Communications for Well Point, the country’s largest Health Insurer.

      If I remember correctly, Francesca Hunt, a Representative from “Crisis Cast”, stated in their Promotinal Video, that they have the ability to provide up to 400, fully-trained and rehearsed “Crisis Actors” including Amputees for the various EVENTS.

      Information has been floating around that the alleged perpetrator of the Orlando Pusle Club incident, “Omar Mateen”, was employed by the security company, “G4S” and is somehow affiliated with our Government.

      Information has been circulating that the “Orlando Pulse Club” was shut down a few years prior to the alleged Incident, due to fire-code violations.

      There was also a video, titled, “Keep Dancing Orlando” and this video showed, Florida’s Orange County Sheriff Jerry Demmings and Undersheriff Rey Rivero and staff all dancing and celebrating some days after the alleged, “Orlando Pulse Club” incident. This appears to be a real and legitimate video making mockery of the entire Event.

      Information has been circulating that the “Sandy Hook” school was closed down in 2008 and used for storage due to flooding damage. That is four years before this alleged incident even took place.

      People supposedly posted Tweets, between the Boston Police Dept. and the journalists at the Boston Globe. Allegedly, in these tweets, the Boston Police Dept. informed the journalists that there is going to be a controlled explosion near the 600 Block of Boylston Street during the marathon, as part of police activities. Allegedly, the tweet also shows that the journalists are asking for clarification, “Where, on Boylston Street”, and allegedly the tweet shows that Boston Police say, “Across form the LIbrary.” Well the library seems to be located near the marathon’s finish-line.

      The alleged family friend (Darvin Turner) of the victim’s girlfriend in the “Philando Castille” police shooting bears a very close resemblance to the alleged shooter (Johnson) in Dallas that was allegedly cornered and killed by the Dallas Police Explosives robot.

      Information about these STAGED EVENTS suggests that they are, in many cases, accompanied by some kind of Drill or Exercise that happens to be going on in the vicinity a few days before or on the day of the incident itself.

      In my opinion, the Las Vegas incident is some sort of “Hybrid Event”. Most people that are familiar with Fully-Automatic firearms know or should know that it only takes 2.5 seconds or less to fire 30 rounds and the rate-of-fire is fast. Also, people that know about firearms probably know that a 60 round drum will only last 6.5 seconds or less on Full-Auto fire. “Iraqi Veteran 888″ demonstrated this in numerous videos. From the photographs posted in the media, they only show magazines, some AR-Style Rifles, and of course the evil and dreaded but quite useless “Bump Stock.”

      Some International Events occurred on Interesting dates:

      Norway Attack 07-22-2011
      Woolwich Attack 05-22-2013
      Brussels Attack 03-22-2016
      Munich Attack 07-22-2016
      London Attack 03-22-2017
      Manchester Attack 05-22-2017

      Of course we have several interviews with a “Crisis Actor” named Mason Wells and he was involved and survived THREE separate terrorist attacks. Boston Marathon, Belgium Airport, and (sorry forgot the 3rd one)

      As far as the 16 anti-gun BILLS that are now sitting in both the House of Rep. and Senate combined, they are:

      H.R. 3947 – Automatic Gunfire Prevention Act
      *** This is a very deceptive, manipulative, and misleading title. This BILL aims to Ban parts and accessories that *MIGHT* increase the rate of fire on *ALL* Semi-Automatic firearms. PROBLEM, there is no measurable rate of fire for Semi-Automatic guns as the finger has to pull the trigger each and every time to fire a round. A very dangerous precedent as these politicians will arbitrarily get to decide which items meet this very poorly and broadly defined criteria.***

      H.R. 3962 – Stop Online Ammunition Sales Act of 2017
      If this BILL is supposed to be about SAFETY then this BILL is backwards. I would be more concerned about someone running into a store and purchasing a large amount of ammunition in a hurry than a person that orders ammunition Online. The person that orders Online, usually has to wait several days if not more than a week to receive their order. The other agenda, is that each State wants to get tax revenue from each and every purchase made Online. California already passed a law that prohibits the sale of all ammunition Online and requires a Fee and Background check for each and every separate ammunition purchase made in the State of California. I would like to see the NRA demand a complete paper audit to determine if indeed 63% of the California voting population really voted in favor of Proposition No. 63. It might be possible, but it is a very peculiar coincidence given the Masonic numbers 3 and 6 that are involved.

      H.R. 3984 – Equal Access to Justice for Victims of Gun-violence Act
      ***This BILL wants to hold firearm manufacturers responsible for crimes committed with firearms. Using this flawed logic, I guess that I should be able to sue Toyota for the permanent spine injuries that I sustained in a accident where the other driver,a man with the initials T.P., was careless, not paying attention, and plowed his Toyota vehicle into several vehicles that were stopped at a red light. This may set a very dangerous precedent and allow crooked and manipulative attorneys to use the, “Chain of Commerce” to sue everyone, the firearm manufacturer, the vendor, the package designer, the authorized distributors, etc., etc.***

      H.R. 3986 – Stopping there Iron Pipeline Act of 2017
      ***This BILL would require tracking IDs on every single firearm. Similar to
      Smart gun technology and similar to the California Micro-Stamping, which actually already passed in California. This is another example of dangerous precedent***

      H.R 3987 – Protecting Americans from Gun-Violence Act of 2017
      ***This is a very emotionally charged and manipulative, and misleading title. This BILL would require a Fee to purchase a firearm through NICS and use this money to fund Center for Disease Control (CDC) to conduct research for gun-violence that was previously found to be biased by Congress. This a clear example of Conflict of Interest, as most anti-gun politicians will shout and cry that any research that does not support their goals is biased. Requiring a License and or Fee in order to exercise any Constitutionally Guaranteed Right is Unconstitutional according to MURDOCK vs. Pennsylvania 319 u.s. 262.

      H.R. 3998 – Protect America Act of 2017
      *** This is another emotionally charged, manipulative, and misleading title. This BILL want to Ban firearms from *SUSPECTED* terrorists. Remember that most governments don’t like any sort of militias and who is to say that militia members will not be labeled *SUSPECTED* terrorists. The problem is that nobody knows that they are on a list, there is now way to get off this list, and there is no way to appeal this process. This is a Very Dangerous precedent!!!

      H.R. 3999 – “To Amend Title 18 of the U.S. Code to Prohibit the Manufacture, Possession, or Transfer of Any Part or Combination of Parts that is Designed and Functions to Increase the Rate of fire of a Semi-Automatic Rifle But Does Not Convert the Semi-Automatic Rifle Into a Machine Gun and For Other Purposes”
      ***This is exactly why the alleged Las Vegas EVENT perpetrator, Mr. Paddock, the 1980s Chuck Norris action movie BRADDOCK, had to have Bump Stocks installed on all his Rifles***

      H.R. 4018 – To Provide for a 3-Day Waiting Period Before a Person May Receive a Handgun with Exceptions
      ***This includes Borrowing and Buying. So the wife would have to fill out paperwork 3 Days in advance to borrow her husband’s firearm to go to the range, and vice versa?***

      H.R. 4025 – Multiple firearm Sales Reporting Modernization Act of 2017
      This BILL would require that a purchase of Two rifles or Two shotguns within a Five working day period be reported to the ATF as a Multiple
      Firearm Purchase. ***What if you want to purchase a matching set / (consecutively numbered set) of either shot-guns or rifles that are on sale??? No more of that, you will be placed on some government watch list.***

      H.R. 4052 – Keep Americans Safe Act
      This is yet another deceptive, manipulative, and misleading title designed to fool people. This BILL would *PROHIBIT* the possession or transfer of any magazine or feeding device that holds more than 10 rounds. This would be a Nationwide Ban. The truth is that most modern handguns have a “STANDARD CAPACITY” of 15 to 20 rounds depending on gun size and caliber and most modern and even vintage 1960s era rifles have “STANDARD CAPACITIES” of 20 to 30 rounds. The 10 round capacity magazines are in FACT “LOW CAPACITY” magazines that were manufactured specifically to accommodate the very restrictive states, such as: California,New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Hawaii, and New Jersey. The entire concept is based on a lie.

      H.R. 4057 – Denying Firearms and Explosives to Dangerous Terrorists Act of 2017
      This deceptive and manipulative title is so ridiculous, they actually think that we Americans as that stupid. When is the last time that anyone has seen a “Dangerous Terrorist” go into a Gun Store and / or an Explosives Store to purchase these things. Do we even have any stores that sell explosives to individuals??? This is completely ridiculous on so many levels. More importantly, this proposed BILL violates so many of our Constitutional Protections because: the government could put anyone for any reason on this list, the government does no thane to tell you that you are on this list, the government has just taken away the Due-Process from every individual that is placed on this list, you don’t have a right to an appeal, the government will never tell you that you are on this list, you will never be allowed to own a firearm, and you don’t even know why. ***This one right here takes the cake, if this BILL passes then our America the Land of the Free is officially finished. This BILL is possibly the most reckless and dangerous to our Freedoms!!!

      Senate BILL 1915 – Handgun Trigger Safety Act of 2017
      This BILL would Force Smart Gun technology on *every* newly manufactured firearm within the next 5 years and ***previously*** manufactured firearms in 10 years. Basically, the crooked anti-American / anti-gun politicians and their masters want to eliminate every single gun and make every single gun illegal. This BILL here shows their true colors, their true intent, and their ultimate goal, to eventually Disarm each and every American Citizen.

      Senate BILL 1916 – Automatic Gunfire Prevention Act
      (Similar to H.R. 3947) This BILL would Ban parts and accessories that increase the rate of fire for a Semi-Automatic firearms. Triggers, trigger jobs, reset-springs, trigger springs, new bolts, etc., etc. This BILL would pretty much Ban ***ALL** Semi-Automatic firearms altogether.

      Senate BILL 1923 – Background Check Completion Act of 2017
      This BILL would expand the Background Checks including the 3-Day issue provision. This BILL would take away the 3-Day time limit for FBI and DOJ to make a decision to approve or deny. In the State of Oregon there is a law trying to make to make this period indefinite. Basically, if you have a very common name and there is a criminal with that name in the criminal database, the FBI could indefinitely postpone their decision to either deny or approve and leave a law abiding citizen stuck in limbo. This is Un-American and no good.

      Senate BILL 1939 – The Equal Access to Justice for Victims of Gun-Violence
      ***This is another example of a deceptive, manipulative, and misleading title.***This BILL is similar to H.R. 3984. This BILL would REPEAL the lawful protection of firearm manufacturers under Commerce Laws so that they can be sued. Basically making the gun manufacturer responsible for the action of criminals that use guns to commit crimes. This BILL is ridiculous and complete nonsense.

      Senate BILL 1945 – Keep Americans Safe Act
      This is yet another deceptive, manipulative, and misleading title designed to fool people. This BILL is similar to H.R. 4052 and aims to Ban *ALL* magazines and feeding devices that have capacity of more than 10 rounds.

      In conclusion:
      As a person that comes from a family legal immigrants that came to America to escape communist Tyranny I am unable to comprehend how any of our American Representatives and Senators would author, co-author, sponsor, and co-sponsor such anti-American BILLS that are clearly designed to Disarm every single American Citizen. I know that our government has been using TV and other Main Stream Media outlets to alter our perceptions about various things. This program has been around for many years and this program is called, “Strategic Perception Management”. I am aware of how the government in conjunction with the Main stream Media has conditioned so many people not to think critically about issues and events. They did this by providing us with these so called experts that do the thinking for us and eventually dictate to us how it should be. It is but illusion and many people just accept the words from these so called experts and analysts. Who really are these experts and analysts??? The Hegelian dialect, thesis, antithesis, and synthesis comes to mind. Hegel’s work was admired by karl MARX and the Vienna Circle. Problem, reaction, and solution has ben utilized by the people in charge. How does it all connect? I won’t pretend to have the answers, but I believe that our government has people working in the shadows and has been engineering, designing, and manufacturing the problem, the sudden surge of so called mass shootings all around our country. All this televising and broadcasting of these EVENTS and now the people are overwhelmed and worn-down. Many people, especially the weaker and older ones, the ones that have been deeply indoctrinated are afraid to go to their local mall because they just might run into a terrorist or a mass shooter. Some of these people are paralyzed with fear, believe me, I have spoken to some older women that live near my neighborhood, some of them are petrified to go to the local mall. Naturally, these scared people react to all this overwhelming and negative news and events. They are just too eager for anyone to step in and help them and here come our alleged loyal politicians and government galloping full speed ahead on a Trojan white horse. Yes we will help you, we can make your fears go away, you will be able to go to the mall and feel safe, your grand children will be able to go to school and be safe but you also need to help us and all you have to do is support and vote for these “Common Sense Gun Laws” and everything will be alright, the world and our country will be safe and everyone will be be equal and live happily ever after. Yes cry the desperate scared masses. We will gladly cast aside this worn outdated Constitution, that old outdated Bill of Rights, and we will gladly go out and convince others to do the same so that everyone will be free form fear and safe. Yes we must do it for our children and grandchildren. Then once this is done we will have peace and order. What kind of Order??? Not just any order but a New World Order. Those carefully crafted words spoken by George Bush Sr. still send shivers down my bones, every timeI hear them. Something about forging an era of Peace. And finally the most alarming words about this New World Order, “And when we succeed, And we will succeed!!!” Those words should send a cold shiver down the spine of every Freedom Loving American. As should the words of Eric Holder (attorney general under Barrack Obama / Barry Soetoro), “And what we need to do is change the way that people think about guns, especially the young people, we need to do this every day of the week and just ***really BRAINWASH*** people into thinking about guns in a vastly different way.”

      Sincerely, James H.


    • Kevin


      Well, clearly batspit has mated with crazy to create this post.


  • Chris M Guerra


    Gov. Brown has become a JOKE – to put it kindly and WILL be removed from office in the very next election coming next year. Unfortunately SO FAR there is not any better candidate getting a good look for the Governor seat either.

    Poor life long Californian’s we are simply SICK of what has become of our once beautiful state (richest in the nation at one time). Between the politicians who have been in office far too long and the immigrants who in large part elect and keep electing them without a clue as to why – oh maybe its the free stuff, including money – We are unfortunately going down the WRONG road here in CA. with NO RETURN TO NORMALCY in sight.


  • Charles


    Quite true for Federal crimes. For State crimes the sentencing is set by the State. The Federal government has done what the Founding Fathers feared most; become so powerful it is grabbing and ursurpping State Powers.


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