Reader Comments of the Week — September 2, 2017

By Dave Dolbee published on in General

Even regular readers of The Shooter’s Log can’t read or respond to all of the comments, so we have started a new weekly feature that will recap a sampling of the most active, interesting, or on occasion, randomly selected comments from the previous weeks. Feel free to respond with your two cents at the bottom of this article or by clicking the story link and adding it directly to the discussion.

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Reader Comments From Previous Weeks

SDF Video: Army Combat Veteran Loses Guns 2A Rights for 1,567 Days

Lamedbytes is completely wrong on the statement that the police did nothing wrong. Law abiding citizen harassed and subsequently arrested on false charges is exactly what we just watched. As a fellow man in blue who works in an open carry state, go have a civil conversation with the citizen in question. Don’t put you hands on the citizen, or just walk up and grab their weapon for no reason. The officer escalated that situation from the word go. Talk! Listen! Then decide reasonably what needs to happen next. The officer violated that mans rights, there is no denial of that fact. This was a case of police overstepping their duties and wasting resources. Great job on the camera work.

~Kenneth


SDF Video: Army Combat Veteran Loses Guns 2A Rights for 1,567 Days

Never argue with police.
Cooperate completely, whether right or wrong.
In Pa. The police are not allowed according to the states Constitution to even question you about a open carried firearm.

STATE CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION – Article 1, Section 21.

“The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.”

Doesn’t mean if a Leo is responding to a call about you and your open carry.

Still do not argue, and comply.

Let the questions be decided at later time.

~4545s


SDF Video: Army Combat Veteran Loses Guns 2A Rights for 1,567 Days

The LEOs had no idea who he was, he would not give them his I.D. I support ALL Vets BUT I support ALL LEOS Also. All the Vet had to do was answer the Officers questions and show him his I.D. and he would’ve been on his way….just like the Officer said. With so many LEOS getting shot doing a very low paid job, I’m shocked that Anyone e would have an issue with this. I want to bear & keep my Firearms and I will as long as I comply with laws and LEOs. Vet should’ve kept his cool and it’s No One Else’s Fault that He talked his way into handcuffs and lost his weapons for a few months. Comply, Answer questions, Keep yourCool b/c YES, we have a Right to our Weapons BUT LEOs have a Right to Safely “Do Their Jobs w/o All the Drama…just sayin.

~P.R.


SDF Video: Army Combat Veteran Loses Guns 2A Rights for 1,567 Days

You can criticize how the guy handled it all you want, and that’s fine all the way until those officers decided they needed to arrest him to save face. The man knew what his rights were. He was pissed off because he and his son weren’t doing anything wrong. Those cops should have turned him loose, with his firearms once they checked him out. If they really were responding to a call, once they made contact and saw that he wasn’t breaking any laws, that should have been the end of it. The officers had a bruised ego and decided they would show that man just how much power they had over him. It’s a shame this made had to fight these people for multiple years. I’m glad he got his rights back, but this never should have happened in the first place.

~Nathan


Can I Legally Shoot Someone If I’m Defending a Statue?

Anyone carrying a firearm to an assembly is not there to assemble peacefully. I find it funny that the ‘rally’ in S.F. was cancelled because the police said nobody attending could carry firearms, sticks, shields, etc. So the wussy alt-right punted. They knew they would get their ass kicked.

As far as these statues are concerned – they have no place in society.

The people they honor were trying to protect slavery. If you are for that then you should be ashamed. I see no statues of slaves being whipped, or hanging from a tree.

Get real… those who go on about Heritage Not Hate forget that fact that in reality it is a Heritage OF Hate.

Oh by the way, I’m a left-wing-democrat voter who carries and shoots his AR15 with extreme precision… and there are many more like me out there…

~CAH


M1 Carbine: The Classic Warhorse

My father purchased a M1 Carbine made my Universal for me when I was 8 years old for me to use to deer hunt. It worked perfectly for me since the area we hunted, all shot were within 100yds. I was fortunate enough to take several deer with the Carbine. Each of my three sons started off hunting deer and have also taken deer.
We have never had any type of problems with the rifle whatsoever. It shoots wonderfully and groups about 1 1/4″ at 100yds. I can’t ask for any better than that!

~Paul Morain


M1 Carbine: The Classic Warhorse

I have my dad’s M-1 carbine, issued to him in the Navy during WW2. It is great to shoot. Looking forward to the rest of the articles.

~Dave M


How Ridiculous is Australia’s List of Prohibited Weapons?

We have the 2nd Amendment. No one else has it. Czech Republic is defying the EU by putting in a 2A like addition to their constitution. Good for them. The rest of the world seems to have turned in their natural rights in favor of their government’s promise of safety and security. Despite not having enough LEOs to protect each and every subject, Australians still believe the government can protect each of them. Government knows best, eh, Aussies?

~NormV


M1 Carbine: The Classic Warhorse

My father worked on the carbine assembly line at Inland right out of high school before being drafted in early 1943. His job was to adjust the sights of the carbines after range testing. These “targeteers,” who Inland taught to shoot the “Inland way” , used indoor ranges… 2 at 100 yards and and 2 at 100 feet. They then used a tool to adjust either front or rear sight according to the target results. Inland production numbers were amazing and a full 2.5M+ of different varieties in less than 3 years came from the Inland factory on Home Avenue in Dayton. The carbine is definitely fun to shoot… be sure to try one…

~Doug Bowers


Balancing Power and Recoil for Self-Defense

I agree that for many people the 9mm is a usable cartridge. It is just that I feel sorry for them. The 45 is big and clunky and the lighter short barreled version of them lacks power. You need 5″ minimum in a 45 to do any serious and reliable work at any distance at all.

My favorite cartridge is the 40S&W 155 grain Double tap gold dot or Underwood XTP in the same weight and the 357 magnum. in 125 grain for smaller (less than 5″ guns) and the 158 or even the 180 if it is a buffalo Bore and 6′ or more of barrel.

The real news is on the .40 S&W. I have a M&P 4.25 inch original M&P 40. It is a fine piece and hits hard and is highly accurate. It does have SOME of the snap recoil some folks bitch about but not anything that gets in the way of my shooting and follow ups. However my newer 5″ M&P model 2 in 40 using the same 155 grain hotter ammo mentioned above exceeds all expectations. Less muzzle flip, better trigger and is a breeze to shoot even with the “hot loads” I choose as carry loads. Be it Double tap 155 bonded, Underwood xtp 155s or buffalo bore 155s. And while the 4.25 inch barrel exceeds (with said brands of 155s) by a lot,the energy implied/tested through personal chrono readings, the 5″ barrel makes this firearm a monster. I get 1425 fps minimum with the mentioned loads and 700 plus energy which exceeds all but the longest barreled 357 magnums using 125 or some 158s. I completely understand the momentum of the 45 (at close range) and like wise would like to remind your of the Gaby Giffords incident where she was shot in the BRAIN with a 9mm and survived. I am glad she did but if ot had been a full power ..40 it likely would have blown her head to pieces. 9mm like 223 s make pencil sized holes which may hit the mark but a pencil hole is not what I want produced in a critical defense situation. I am 6’2, 225 lbs so may be bigger than your typical reader, but I simply do not trust a 9mm to do the job with one or two shots that a .40 or 357 mag. will do with the proper ammo. And I sure as hell don’t want to show up in court defending a personal shooting that required 15 rounds of a 9mm to stop the target. Cops get away with that some but civilians could be in serious trouble.

~Doug


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  • Elton P Green

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    Just so you’ll know a little history, the Civil War wasn’t fought over slavery. It was fought over State’s Rights. I know what has been taught in school these last few years, but that’s revised history. Any history book from the 30’s, 40’s or 50’s will tell you the truth. As to Robert E. Lee, maybe a little history will help you understand why those statues are there. By the way, General Lee didn’t own slaves, nor did he condone slavery.
    “Robert E Lee was married to George Washington’s granddaughter. He worked with Grant during the Mexican-American war and became a decorated war hero defending this country He believed slavery was a great evil and his wife broke the law by teaching slaves to read and write. After the civil war he worked with Andrew Johnson’s program of reconstruction. He became very popular with the northern states and the Barracks at West Point were named in his honor in 1962. He was a great man who served this country his entire life in some form or other. His memorial is now being called a blight. No American military veteran should be treated as such. People keep yelling, “You can’t change history.” Sadly you can. This is no better than book burnings. ISIS tried rewriting history by destroying historical artifacts. Is that really who we want to emulate?
    As they tear down this “blight” keep these few historical facts in your mind. No military veteran and highly decorated war hero should ever be treated as such. This is not Iraq and that is not a statue of Sadam.

    IN ADDITION:: Lee was also very torn about the prospect of the South leaving the Union. His wifes grandfather George Washington was a huge influence on him. He believed that ultimately, states rights trumped the federal government and chose to lead the Southern army. His estate, Arlington, near Washington DC was his home and while away fighting the war, the federal government demanded that Lee himself pay his taxes in person. He sent his wife but the money was not accepted from a woman. When he could not pay the taxes, the government began burying dead Union soldiers on his land. The government is still burying people there today. It is now called Arlington National Cemetery. DO THEY WANT TO TEAR THAT UP ALSO ?”
    I will add to this the question of whether they want to take down the crosses over our fallen’s graves, and if they want any Confederate soldier’s bodies moved.

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