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How does the cross sectional density of this round compare to the 6.8 Remington? I’m kinda fond of military loads. I like my 6.8, but have found nothing equal to the 7.62×51. I also question the .224’s wound balistic’s at 1300 yards. I have no real knowledge of the .224, but find it interesting. Where is a good source of balistic info on the .224?
Your comments are exactly why my personal defensive handguns are .45 ACP most often, 10mm sometimes, and less often the .45 Colt and .357 Magnum. Remember I am a full time experimenter and professional and fire perhaps 10,000 cartridges a year -sometimes a lot more- much less than a professional that wins the big matches, to be certain, but a goodly ammunition. A deer is the same size as a man in most cases and about as hard to put down. Men are more susceptible to shock. I did not mean to re start the cartridge debate. I once said the hell with the little guns when I was less than thirty and in police work and adhere to that. However, I have seen terrible results in the training classes with those that choose a handgun larger than they can handle. Hunting isn’t personal defense. The shot may be at 50-100 yards and the retaining energy and accuracy of the handgun is laughable compared to even a middle of the road cartridge such as the .30-30 WCF. A whole different ball game. The handgun is a weapon of opportunity carried to counter an unexpected threat. It will not be running a combat course but getting a good hit fast to the right place. the 9mm and .38 are baselines. They are powerful enough given good shot placement. Many of us are just too busy to master a handgun larger than the 9mm. It would be like trying to take a crash course on the banjo and expecting to be Lester Flat. Just the same the points you made are valid. But master the 9mm or .38 first. Marksmanship is still the most important single part of personal defense. As I said I intended to make this a report with good advice on home defense. We are off on a tangent. The shotgun is a weapon that will ally any fear.
I always carry when out of the house, most times even on the property. I have a concealed carry lifetime permit. I’m also a Vietnam Marine who still sleeps in two hour shifts. I can’t break that foxhole habit. My preferred carry is a S&W 9mm SD9VE, their most inexpensive handgun. I read an article before I got one, and the tester said he couldn’t make it jam no matter what ammo went into it. That was good enough for me. I’ve never had a jam. I have a MAK-90 next to the bed and my wife has a Taurus 22 caliber nine shot with stingers next to her. We sleep with a 90 pound Doberman between us. I know that sounds paranoid but the Dobie was my fault. I didn’t want to cage her as a puppy and let her sleep on the bed. That was the end of that. She hears everything and would die for us. The one thing I don’t agree with is a light on a weapon. We had such light discipline in Vietnam that exposing myself by holding a light is not something I could do. They would know right where to shoot. I’m the creep in the dark person in home defense. I still have excellent night vision. We also have an alarm system with glass breaks. Motion detector lights outside, and a range in my yard (35 feet Max). I don’t shoot as often as I should. I’ve had guns pulled on me before, the first time at age 12, when some older person stuck a 45 in my face and threatened to kill me if I didn’t tell them where somebody I didn’t even know lived. I never panicked which surprised me and made something up and the guy left, and it has happened several times when younger before I had a concealed carry. One thing I’ve learned. If a criminal pulls a gun on you and threatens to shoot but doesn’t right then, you have a good chance to survive or at least have a chance to defend yourself. If I have to pull my weapon, I’m going to shoot without threats or hesitation. But I wouldn’t pull it unless I was certain it was life or death. So I prefer the S&W 9 for most situations.
Great memory , I never had a red Ryder but my cousins had an old marlin 22 that was really beat! And they lived on a rural road with instant access to the woods and lots of abandoned coal mine pits and roads , I was absolutely mesmerized by the rifle and my uncle let me take it out whenever I was there, needless to say I would ride my bike to his small farm to “help out with the pigs or chickens or whatever was needed” but my real goal was to get to shoot the 22 (most little grocery stores sold the 22’s so I bought them with money’s I earned doing jobs in the neighborhood. . I learned to shoot with that rifle and still have one like it today . Then in 1962 I bought my first gun a bolt action 16 ga shotgun and my younger brother got a marlin 81Dl 22 .i was 12 !!! We harvested everything under the sun with those two . And I still have both what great memory’s . Thanks for bringing back a wonderful time of my life. But can you imagine a12yr old today buying his own firearm and walking home with it ! (The gun shop owner was a friend of my family) and no one called the swat team out , different world then sadly
I was issued an M9 while working in South America . I didn’t like carrying a weapon I was really familiar with, so when I came home two weeks later I bought one along with 1000 rounds of ammo. After 15 years and many thousand rounds I have come to love that pistol. Only one malfunction and that was an old range mag. Extremely accurate and reliable.
Thanks for the article. I had a .22 before I ever had the red ryder. A little Anschutz left handed bolt action. That was locked up. But once I got the Daisy … boy oh boy!! Hours seemed like days. Missions conducted in the deepest “jungles”, cowboys and Indians (when it was still allowed). Even if Mom had allowed us inside the house during those summer days, we probably wouldn’t have gone in.
It’s funny you should mention keeping your EDC on you at home. For years I’ve kept a Glock 17 with a Crimson Trace laser in the nightstand next to my bed, kept a 1911 Commander in the table next to my recliner in the family room, and carried a S&W stainless model 60 .38 when I was out and about. The .38 went in my desk drawer in the den when it wasn’t in my holster. I retired nearly 4 years ago and stopped wearing clothing that concealed the .38. Along came the perfect solution, at least in my estimation, the Sig P938, which fits comfortably in my right front pocket. I find that I carry it at home most of the time, and the 1911 has gone back in the safe. I still keep the Glock in the bedroom because of the laser and the fact that it’s most likely to be used at night.
As far as training is concerned, I never cease to be amazed at how many friends do not train with their EDC, or, if they do, not with the ammo they keep in it. I train 2 ways with the P938, inexpensive ball ammo for just target practice, and 124 gr. XTP hollow points (what I carry) for tactical training. I’ve tried various HP rounds, but the Sig likes the 124 gr. XTP, and if I’m put in a life and death situation, I definitely want to be shooting what the gun likes best.
~Retired Navy Spook
This makes me wonder why they even bother to lock their doors. When the governor of any state decides to do this type of idiotic move he is only taking any and all personal protection from the citizens and giving the green light to the criminals. One day when it hurts his family immensely he’ll realize too late what he did!
So I think I can asked some light on the thought process behind this. Basically they aren’t saying if you rob someone at gun point we will go from a 12 year automatic sentence down to 2 years. They are however giving the judge, who has a better view of the entire situation, the option to give a range of enhancements. For one person it might be an extra year or even going from a probation sentence to a prison one. Another person may get the max added to their sentence. One size never fits all. Who can say they didn’t do dumb stuff as a teen, or on the other side that the 12th person you’ve held at gun point at shouldn’t get a lot more time. So as I said this is just a way to allow flexibility both ways depending on the whole picture.
Now to address some of the other thing. When did any kind of restriction on firearms become “trampling on second amendment rights”? I personally love shooting. I love my mags that all say illegal in CA. When asked why I need 16+1 or a 20rd Saiga12 drum I reply with “it’s really fun to unload quick sometimes”. I also think the NRA has brainwashed a large section of the population with their war on truth. You can love guns while still not wanting everyone to be able to get one in a matter of minutes.
I also find it distributing that it is assumed that every person who is for any kind of restriction will disagree with everything you believe. This split down the aisle and agreeing 100% with one party and hating everything about the other needs to end. With the massive amount of information available to everyone there is no reason to read an article with nothing more than someone’s interpretation and assume it’s true. I’ve found that it takes under 5 minutes to find and look at the raw data and draw your own conclusion.
PS: The NRA was the group who pushed for outlawing automatic weapons in the late 1920s/early 1930s. Does that mean they were second amendment tramplers?
If you start with the premise that political elites are writing & passing legislation with the purpose of protecting the law abiding citizenry from the criminals, then the law makes no sense. If, however, you start with the premise that the political elites have as their aim removing the ability of the law abiding citizenry to defend themselves, then the legislation in question makes perfect sense. If you have more criminals on the street committing more gun-involved crimes, you have more arguments in favor of further and further restricting the right of the individual to “…keep and bear arms…” A defenseless populace has little recourse against an unrestrained government.
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