The NRA Statement on Terror Watchlists

By Dave Dolbee published on in News

Wednesday, June 15, 2016 Fairfax, Va.- The executive director of the National Rifle Association’s Institute for Legislative Action, Chris W. Cox, released the following statement regarding terror watchlists:

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We are happy to meet with Donald Trump. The NRA’s position on this issue has not changed. The NRA believes that terrorists should not be allowed to purchase or possess firearms, period. Anyone on a terror watchlist who tries to buy a gun should be thoroughly investigated by the FBI and the sale delayed while the investigation is ongoing. If an investigation uncovers evidence of terrorist activity or involvement, the government should be allowed to immediately go to court, block the sale, and arrest the terrorist. At the same time, due process protections should be put in place that allow law-abiding Americans who are wrongly put on a watchlist to be removed. That has been the position of Sen. John Cornyn (R.-Tex.) and a majority of the U.S. Senate. Sadly, President Obama and his allies would prefer to play politics with this issue.

What is your take on the proposed laws to be voted on next week? Trump and the NRA’s position on the watchlist? Share your opinions and perspectives in the comment section.

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Comments (67)

  • gkg

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    lmao ! the terrorist planted the seed decades ago, now you see that it’s here, not over there . propaganda, unconventional warfare and recruiting americans to put the plan into action . IEDs, suicide/car bombs will be part of life in the U.S. last time i watched the news they did not mention anything about guns, all i heard was how many people were killed by suicide bombers . maybe the feds need to put a watchlists on gas, propane tanks and beater cars .

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  • Norm

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    I am shocked the NRA is agreeing to this monstrosity. This no fly list is based on throwing out due process of law, while arbitrarily adding names without proof of wrong doing. If these “terrorists” are real, there must be proof they are, or they wouldn’t be labeled “terrorists.” That proof should be enough for an arrest, charging the individual, prosecuting said individual, and, if found guilty, thrown in jail or executed, I don’t care which.

    What I do care about is the trampling of DUE PROCESS. This is the basis of our justice system. It presumes suspects are innocent until proven guilty. The burden of proof is on the government to prove, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that the suspect is guilty and deserves to lose his/her rights. The no fly list presupposes the guilt of the suspect, and his/her right is taken away without benefit of a hearing. Further, the NRA is in collusion with the government’s no fly list in making an innocent person having to prove his innocence.

    For this reason, I will not join the NRA. Support the nation’s DUE PROCESS.

    DOWN WITH THE NRA AND THE NO FLY LIST!

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    • Norm

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      If they are terrorists, why are they free to walk our streets, free to buy guns? If they are suspects, gather evidence to arrest and prosecute them. If the gov’t can’t, then leave them alone to enjoy their right to buy guns, or to fly.

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    • Dave Dolbee

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      Norm,
      The NRA’s statement states due process needs to be in place. It says, once investigated and evidence is found, the sale should be blocked and the person prosecuted. ~Dave Dolbee

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    • Kurtz

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      Dave,
      What I read is, once your on their watch list, due process is initiated to get you off. Meanwhile, your 2nd Amendment rights are gone. Prove you’re innocent. Read more carefully.

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  • Frederick Gibson

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    This Bill will allow Obama and Minions to begin collecting
    firearms of Veterans who they have already Labeled “Domestic Extremist”.
    They will likely be the only group that is targeted. Muslims will NOT
    be targeted as that would not be “Shariah Compliant”.
    I’ve been suggesting, for a couple of years, that Liberals and Progs
    should volunteer to the ATF, BLM, IRS, USPS, etc, etc in order to help them Confis98y08t95- Collect all the firearms, there are many. They can just walk up to our front-door with outstretched arms and I am sure
    they will get what they are asking for.

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  • Casey charles

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    I would not trust that bunch of political hacks in DC as far as I could throw
    the White House

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  • Kurtz

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    Really? WTF??? I can’t believe the NRA would take this position! First, the so-called “watch list” isn’t the same as a “no-fly list.” Anyone can be on a watch list. All it takes is a disgruntled neighbor to call and say you have an antisocial attitude and way too many guns and ammo and you’ll never know you’re flagged. Or, did you know, just about anyone whose served in special forces is already on their list because of their training and ability. These guys are psych-profiled out the ying yang, will they be denied? Second, the part of their statement that reads, “due process protections should be put in place that allow law-abiding Americans who are wrongly put on a watchlist to be removed” stinks of prove your innocence; rather than the burden of proven guilty. Lastly, “Anyone on a terror watchlist who tries to buy a gun should be thoroughly investigated by the FBI and the sale delayed while the investigation is ongoing.” How long does that take? If class 3 stamps are any indicator, you’re looking at 6 months. This whole thing stinks of liberal compromise…

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    • Kurtz

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      BTW, NRA elections are coming up. Let’s make sure this Chris W. Cox fellow, who delivered this statement needs a new job.

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    • Norm

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      Totally agree. It seems due process is being trampled in favor of a semblance of safety and security, which this no fly list foes nit guarantee.

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  • Stan

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    I strongly disagree with the NRA’s stated position. The ability to fly on an airplane has little or no relationship or relative legal equivalence to exercise of a Constitutional right. Also, denying one any Constitutional right because they are named on some list appears to be a Bill of Attainder, strictly prohibited by our US Constitution in Article I, section 9, of the United States Constitution (1787) as well as by the constitutions of all 50 US states. U.S. v. Brown, 381 U.S. 437 (1965).

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  • James

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    The government watch list will be used against law abiding citizens , do not trust Washington . These are the same people bringing in jihadis , they also have given the Muslim brotherhood some of the highest offices in the land , because of the NRA stance on this issue I will join gun owners of America . I don’t want jihadis having guns either , but due process is the law of the land.

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  • Mark

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    Secret “no-buy” lists are illegal for a reason. These lists are specifically created to strip political opponents of their rights. Show me the part of the U.S. Constitution that allows this garbage. You can’ t opt “out” if you didn’t opt “in” in the first place.

    Since when should an innocent person be required to beg to have their name removed from an illegal list – on which his/her name was placed illegally by a scumbag political activist? And how exactly does an innocent victim gain compensation for having their name wrongfully placed on said list? Where is the punishment for political activists and bureaucrats that wrongfully placed innocent people’s names on the list? And why should an innocent person be forced to beg to get back their rights that were illegally and wrongfully taken without due process? What mechanism will enforce removal of innocent person’s names from these illegal lists? What fines and prison sentences will be imposed on government activists and bureaucrats that wrongly placed innocent person’s names on the secret no-buy lists?

    These lists are illegal for a reason. Think about it. If someone is suspected of being a terrorist, then why aren’t they being arrested, prosecuted, and held in prison? There was evidence right? So where is the arrest?

    The latest killer in Orlando is an excellent example. No illegal super secret list was necessary to arrest and imprison him – simply following the law and prosecuting him for past crimes, would have given him a felony record and banned him from owing a gun. He pulled a knife on co-workers and threatened their lives on multiple occasions according to the news. This is either a serious misdemeanor or felony – punishable by at least a year in prison and permanent record to block gun sales on a NICS background check. And yet somebody deliberately failed to prosecute him. Why?

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    • Tombstone Gabby

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      And yet somebody deliberately failed to prosecute him. Why?
      Courts and prosecutors at city, county, and state levels are swamped. Prosecutors tend to take on cases that they know they can win. Others are plea-bargained down to a lesser offence. It was this combination that led to Operation Exile – moving firearm/drug cases to federal courts. It worked.
      Any time the question is raised, “Why don’t hey …..” – the answer is lack of money.

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  • Swarley

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    You can’t take away someone’s rights without due process. The no fly list is a secret list created by bureaucrats that has no checks and balances or due process.

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    • darrenp1976

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      Flying, like driving is a PRIVILEGE, not a right. If a private company does not want you on its plane, they can deny you. Our 2nd amendment is a right and in no way should even be labelled in the same category as the “no fly list”. We will not accept secret list or secret tribunals to judge us.

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    • G-Man

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      @ darrenp1976,

      Well said. I could never had worded this better myself.

      Reply

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