LA Bans Possession of Standard Capacity Magazines

By CTD Blogger published on in Consumer Information, News

On Tuesday, July 28, the Los Angeles City Council voted 12-0 to ban the possession of firearm magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. Those who own them are to remove them from the city or give them up to police so the magazine can be destroyed.

City Councilman Paul Krekorian proposed the law two years ago, modeling similar bans in San Francisco and Sunnyvale. Currently, the council is working up an amendment to allow some exemptions for retired police officers with concealed carry permits.

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California restricts the sale of standard capacity magazines (more than 10 rounds), which the state calls “large capacity.” In California and in Los Angeles it is illegal to buy, sell, manufacture, lend, give or import any magazine over 10 rounds. However, for magazines possessed before January 1, 2000, California residents may keep them.

But for those living in Los Angeles…not anymore.

Residents have 60 days to turn in their magazines or remove them from the city. Krekorian has said the new law will be enforced by the Los Angeles Police Department.

The NRA sued both the city of San Francisco and Sunnyvale for their bans on the possession of “high-capacity” magazines, but failed. The courts ruled that the bans do not infringe on people’s Second Amendment rights.

Tom Perumean, for KABC News paraphrased the LA Councilman, “He cited examples of gun violence incidents in Los Angeles where shooters using guns with large magazine clips did enormous human damage.”

Owning a magazine that holds more than 10 rounds will now be a misdemeanor in Los Angeles.

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  • Kurt

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    To Cheaper than Dirt.
    This shooters Log has become nothing but arguments between two or three people. I’m sorry but I have better things to do with my time.
    You all stay safe.
    Kurt

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    • ss1

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      To Cheaper than Dirt:

      Regarding Kurt’s comment, I believe that CTD staff can’t monitor everyone’s comments too much, because that can actually inhibit good exchanges of information in the middle of disagreements.

      My idea is to send out a new article just like you do with any other article, but the title to the article would be “GENERAL DISCUSSION FORUM”, and the article itself would be a brief explanation to take off-topic discussions to this forum.

      This way people can explore new ideas that weren’t part of the original topic, or decide if they should take a serious on-topic argument to the General Discussion Forum if their posts are dominating too much.

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  • Joe

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    As Fred Allen once said, “California is a nice place to live — if you’re an orange.”

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  • Gary H.

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    @1 ab urbe condita,

    You are obviously just an antagonist looking for something to disagree with or rebut. If were interested in the subject at all you would read it with your mind, not just your eyes. I said the authors of the bill of rights wanted every citizen to be able to arm themselves as they see fit. Then I said, a century later they could still own a Henry or a Gatling gun. At no time did say they were available in 1791. Read the post with intelligent thought before you post, or spare the rest of us the rhetoric. Thank You, I hope.

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    • WISE COUNTY TX

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      Just south of L.A. U. S. Marines are taught annually to swiftly change magazines with only 5 rounds each. As a former PMI and Cp Pendleton, Range Safety NCO I seen Marines complete mag change in 5-7 secs.What is wrong with this picture? I guess you can see why I moved to Tx.

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    • Wise County Tx.

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      P.S. NC article to Gary reveals Feds tactically messed up. Through “Freedom of he press” they just warned the preppers to fly low under the radar. It is hard to I.D. Rat Finks (Rev. War -“loyalists”) Feds have effectively warned everyone to watch who you talk to. The walls have ears?!?!

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    • Kurt

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      Also add, you never WHO you are talking to.

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  • Archangel

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    WE are the government?
    Not unless one of the two controlling parties approves you for election because it is HIGHLY unlikely anyone else would get elected.

    WE decide what is good for us and what is not.
    Those voted into power decide for us and they make bad decisions all the time.

    WE are the masters of our destinies.
    If you imply we have the decision on how to resist and die, yeah.

    WE have a choice to defend ourselves in whatever manner we see fit, regardless of some stuffed shirts who deem otherwise.
    And if you survive the police beating as you are arrested, you will spend the rest of your life in prison.

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  • Joe

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    Let them get the real feel of things. Let them depend on themselves for their personal protection and security.

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    • Wise County Tx.

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      Just red where Feds arrested three NC preppers for stockpiling. I guess what really got them into trouble was exercising their right to free speech!!

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    • Secundius

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      @ Wise County Tx.

      Even the 1st Amendment, can be AMENDED…

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  • Stan Sikorski

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    Ladies and Gentlemen, although arguing these finer things remind us of the intricacies we as humans manipulate and call “law”, there is one glaring truth that we forget through it all and it is this:

    WE are the government. WE decide what is good for us and what is not. WE are the masters of our destinies. WE have a choice to defend ourselves in whatever manner we see fit, regardless of some stuffed shirts who deem otherwise. Tyranny comes in many forms. But it only prospers if Good Men do nothing. To rebel against this unjust “authority”, that WE have given them I remind you, is the highest form of Freedom. Their manipulations end where Common Sense (read it!) and self preservation begin. Just because WE are “civilized” now doesn’t change that. If anything, it should enhance our basic freedoms to decide for ourselves what, and in which way we defend ourselves, our families, and our nations.

    SS

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    • Archangel

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      WE are the government?
      Not unless one of the two controlling parties approves you for election because it is HIGHLY unlikely anyone else would get elected.

      WE decide what is good for us and what is not.
      Those voted into power decide for us and they make bad decisions all the time.

      WE are the masters of our destinies.
      If you imply we have the decision on how to resist and die, yeah.

      WE have a choice to defend ourselves in whatever manner we see fit, regardless of some stuffed shirts who deem otherwise.
      And if you survive the police beating as you are arrested, you will spend the rest of your life in prison.

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    • Kurt

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      Thank you Stan.

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  • David

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    @Rick: “when all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.”
    Good one, I like the banter. I guess the bottom line is that you have to be convinced in your heart what you believe AND stand up for it.

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  • David

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    @Rick: Letters of Marque in essence gave a shipowner the legal standing to use his ship as a warship fighting in behalf of his country without being branded as a pirate. The fact is that the shipowner’s ship was already armed and ready to go. He didn’t have to get permission to acquire the arms.
    Since Tench doesn’t meet your qualifications:
    “A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.”- George Washington.
    Military supplies for the people? Can’t have anything to do with military weapons for the people can it?
    You give impetus to the saying “don’t confuse me with the facts, I already know what I believe”.

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    • Rick

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      “Letters of Marque in essence gave a shipowner the legal standing to use his ship as a warship fighting in behalf of his country without being branded as a pirate. The fact is that the shipowner’s ship was already armed and ready to go. He didn’t have to get permission to acquire the arms.”

      Sure. He just needed permission to use them. It’s analogous to you buying a Glock and then needing a permit from the government when you wanted to fire it. I’ll repeat–not the most effective a argument to make in this situation.

      ““A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies.”- George Washington.
      Military supplies for the people? Can’t have anything to do with military weapons for the people can it?””

      Better, but I’d have to look at the full context to see exactly what he was saying and WHEN. It’s so easy to pull quotes out of temporal context and deprive them of their intended meaning, y’know….Stay tuned.

      “You give impetus to the saying “don’t confuse me with the facts, I already know what I believe”.”

      Mmm hmm. Or, when all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

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    • David

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      @Rick: It’s interesting to note that until the National Firearms Act of 1934 was passed that “every terrible implement of the solder” was available to any citizen who plopped the bucks on the counter and without having to register said implement with the nanny government. BAR, Tommy gun, case of grenades? If you wanted it, you could buy it. It seems that there was a general acceptance that the Second Amendment meant what it said. Then the Socialists moved into power beginning with Roosevelt and continuing to this day. They decided that it was unacceptable for the people to be able to arm themselves with implements of war. It was too dangerous for them (the Socialists). They redefined these implements as “gangster weapons’,”assault weapons”, anything to make them bad and to protect the people from. So now we have sheeple who believe whatever the government tells them.

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  • David

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    @Rick: “By the way, you don’t happen to have a citation for “equally armed” do you?” Tench Coxe: “Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birth-right of an American … the unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people”. His statement confirms that the Militia and the people are synonymous. Notice that he said that swords AND EVERY TERRIBLE IMPLEMENT OF THE SOLDIER. are the birth-right of an American. That statement is not limited to any particular era of our nation’s history. It applies as much today as it did then. That means we have a right to arm ourselves not only with semi-automatic rifles but service rifles(M16), machine guns, grenades, mortars, tanks, artillery, etc. If you can afford it, you have a right to acquire it. The Constitution speaks of Letters of Marque. This was basically a license for a shipowner to use his ship (in behalf of his nation) as a vessel of war. So in that sense, the Constitution acknowledges our right to own a ship of war (if you can afford it)
    Tench Coxe was a member of the Continental Congress, was a close associate of George Washington, Alexander Hamiliton and a close friend of Thomas Jefferson. He wrote many articles on politics and the Constltution. He’s among that group of men known as the “founding fathers”.

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    • Rick

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      “Tench Coxe….”

      In no conversation is he ever considered a founding father EXCEPT by the people who trot out this one quote. He was otherwise a wholly undistinguished nobody while in the Congress for ONE year, and his militia writings were 10 years after the Bill of Rights. Big deal.

      “The Constitution speaks of Letters of Marque. This was basically a license for a shipowner to use his ship (in behalf of his nation) as a vessel of war. ”

      And Letters of Marque were issued by the government…just like gun permits. That probably wasn’t the best point for you to raise.

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    • Secundius

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      @ David.

      After another DISMAL Performance of the “Militia” in the War of 1812-14, the “Militia” were disarmed. It wasn’t until the “Dick” Act of 1903, that the “Militia” was Resurrected from the Grave. Unfortunately, by 2 June 1916 the Bureau of Militia was Disbanded Completely and Resurrected as the United States National Guard Bureau in 3 June 1916. Aka, the National Guard Act of 1916…

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  • peccatun Dei

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    Rick, can you carry (bear) an M1 tank? Didn’t think so…

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    • Rick

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      Can the original poster carry a Gatling gun?

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    • 1 ab urbe condita

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      @ Rick.

      What are you suggesting, a 1779 Nock 7-barrel 46-caliber Smooth-Bore Muzzle-Loading Flint-Lock Volley Gun instead?

      Reply

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