Congress Weighs in on Linking Benefits to Gun Control—Act Now!

By Dave Dolbee published on in News

A few weeks ago, the Shooter’s Log reported that the Obama Administration is looking for ways to use the Social Security Administration (SSA) as a backdoor form of gun control. Its plan is to report all individuals who receive SSA benefits via an assigned designated fiduciary recipient. In other words, if you receive SSA benefits and elect to have someone manage your money for you, the Administration wants to equate it to being unfit to possess a firearm.

ATF Form 4473

Form 4473 asks for your height, weight, race, and social security number. However, the Obama Administration is now looking to connect SSA benefits to NICS checks for millions.

This is similar in nature to the model employed by the Veteran’s Administration, which reports to NICS as “adjudicated as a mental defective” beneficiaries who have been assigned a “fiduciary” to manage their benefits. This action by the VA has already subjected a little over 175,000 beneficiaries to NICS as prohibited persons, done without a hearing, due process or any other judicial investigation or finding whatsoever—no violent crimes, no violent tendencies or dangerous behaviors to themselves or others, just a stroke of the pen to strip them of their Second Amendment rights.

Upping the ante, the administration would now target 4.2 million more Americans via the SSA with designated “representative payees.”

Daylight on the Horizon?

Is there daylight on the horizon? Well, not exactly. However, the Second Amendment does have its supporters in Congress. For instance, 20 members of Congress led by Rep. Sam Johnson (R-TX), Chairman of the Social Security Subcommittee of the House Committee on Ways and Means, sent a letter to Carolyn Colvin, acting commissioner of Social Security. The letter pointed out the danger and folly of such action as a “dangerous overreach.”

The letter also puts the Acting Commissioner Colvin on the spot by requesting confirmation of whether or not the SSA intended to pursue the policy. Either way, the Representatives urged the SSA “to abandon any such plan.” Perhaps the letter isn’t the strongest effort, but it is at least a step in the right direction.

SSA Responds

In a letter dated Aug 7, the SSA (Ms. Colvin) responded stating that the “SSA has not provided any names of beneficiaries to the NICS and is not considering sending names based solely on the beneficiaries having representative payees.” That is the good news. The bad news is that Colvin also included a statement that the SSA is currently determining how “[it] must comply with our NICS reporting obligations under Federal law” and “are looking at possible implementation scenarios.” None of those scenarios, according to Colvin, “would refer all SSA beneficiaries with representative payees to the NICS.”

Analysis

Colvin is a bureaucrat, which does not automatically make her untrustworthy, but you have to read between the lines to see some of the danger in her response. For instance, Colvin never said the representative payee would not be used for NICS, just that it would not be the “sole determinant” and not “all” such beneficiaries with representative payees would be reported. That leaves a lot of wiggle room for a bureaucrat. Nor does it address or eliminate the possibility of using some other half-baked criteria to strip recipients of their Second Amendment rights.

Senate Responds

On Aug. 7, 2015, 28 Senators also took up the matter. Led by Sen. Mike Crapo (R-ID) the letter expressed concern and inquired about the SSA’s intention to report beneficiaries with representative payees to NICS—similar to Rep. Johnson’s. “It is not at all clear, how this misguided intention is intended to be carried out, or how SSA will serve as adjudicator of risks posed by beneficiaries utilizing its representative payee system.” The letter went on to request a report “on the basis for SSA’s intention to develop such a plan.” Further, the letter admonished, “Old age or a disability does not make someone a threat to society,” and closed by urging SSA “to halt any steps to provide information on Social Security beneficiaries or Supplemental Security Income recipients to the NICS.”

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The NRA-ILA is fighting for your rights. Whether or not you choose to support the NRA-ILA, Second Amendment Foundation, National Association of Gun Rights or others as your primary organization(s) defend the Second Amendment by getting involved.

The NRA is actively engaging members of Congress for preemptive solutions. As a result, Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) introduced S. 2002. The bill seeks to halt the VA, SSA or any other agency from reporting individuals to NICS without proper due process that legally determines an individual a danger to themselves or others.

Stand Up and Be Heard!

In the meantime, if you have not already registered your concern, your senators and representatives need your support. If they are against the Second Amendment they need to hear you displeasure! Let them know your opinion on the use of the VA and SSA as a wedge to force individuals to choose between benefits and the Second Amendment. You can use the “Write Your Lawmakers” feature at NRAILA.org or call the Congressional Switchboard at (202) 224-3121.

How do you feel about using the administration’s new proposed criteria as data for NICS checks? Share your opinions in the comment section.

SLRule

Growing up in Pennsylvania’s game-rich Allegany region, Dave Dolbee was introduced to whitetail hunting at a young age. At age 19 he bought his first bow while serving in the U.S. Navy, and began bowhunting after returning from Operation Desert Shield/Desert Storm. Dave was a sponsored Pro Staff Shooter for several top archery companies during the 1990s and an Olympic hopeful holding up to 16 archery records at one point. During Dave’s writing career, he has written for several smaller publications as well as many major content providers such as Guns & Ammo, Shooting Times, Outdoor Life, Petersen’s Hunting, Rifle Shooter, Petersen’s Bowhunting, Bowhunter, Game & Fish magazines, Handguns, F.O.P Fraternal Order of Police, Archery Business, SHOT Business, OutdoorRoadmap.com, TheGearExpert.com and others. Dave is currently a staff writer for Cheaper Than Dirt!

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Comments (89)

  • Thomas

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    If you touch any of our CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS you will not only loose yours ,but everything you have!😡🇺🇸

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  • Neal

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    Good point. The “federal” government at the time was the British Empire. This government needed to pull the teeth of the uppity colonies and decided to do that by seizing their arms and the ammunition that was stored for the use of the Militia. Our governments actions today are much the same, and for much the same reason…they can’t truly control an armed populace.

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  • Roy Holbert

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    Secundis, et al. At almost 70 years of age, I count my self as an ‘Old Fart’, I suppose, but a 28 year old lady friend assures me that I am not.
    Still, what I have lost in years, I make up in increased knowledge and abilities,especially those concerned with tactics and marksmanship. I still make 600 + meter shots, but must use a scope now. Hell, with a good scope, I am still making 1500 meter one shot kills.
    When and if, America wakes up and casts off those who would destroy it, I will personally lead a ‘strike platoon’ back to the U.S. . Again; as long as the America people knuckle under and accept the dismantlement of the 2nd Amendment, and the rapid destruction of other rights, that it protects, I will remain an expatriate, living in a country where I am truly free, which is no longer the case of those still living in the U.S..

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  • steve b.

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    Gentlemen-We must decide whether to be citizens or whether to be subjects.My rights come from God and are guaranteed by our Constitution.As long as I have breath I will criticize this outlaw pres. and all others who are trying to destroy our country.

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    • Melvin Gillham

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      Well said Steve, I agree and and do speak out regularly in a number of forums against this tyranny, and will continue to do so, all the while exposing and anhilating the liberal bloomin(Bloomberg) idiots. The funny thing about liberals is they never have an original thought out answer, they seem to have ” canned” messages ready for anyone who disagrees, I get amused at their lack of original thinking and liken them to plow mules with blinders on listening for the commands of their delusional leader.

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  • Roy Holbert

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    Neal, a 2nd American Revolution, is a good idea, but like so many ‘good ideas’, it will never happen. A few ‘old timers’ might rear up and revolt, but the way so many are brought up these days,it is more than likely, they will roll over and give up their guns before fighting. Far too many value their precious skins, to their freedom. It is a very good thing, that the Founding Fathers didn’t think this way, or the U.S. would still be flying the Union Jack and sing “Hail to the Queen”. Had a friend sometime ago, vowed he would fight to the death before giving up his guns. He saw a news bit on day about federal agents kicking in the door of an alleged violater and confiscating his guns. All it took, this friend of mine rapidly lost his bravado and bluster.
    Now, can’t stress this often enough, Love My Country, but as long as those in power are willing to resort to Gestapo like tactics to ensure a subdued and weaponless population, I must remain an expatriate living in a country that rather discourages gun ownership encourages it.

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    • Secundius

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      @ Roy Holbert.

      Don’t Rule US “OLD FART’s”, Out Just Yet. We Might Just Surprise You…

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  • Free Man

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    Vague laws cause problems. It seems these laws are not targeting criminals, or the mentally ill, who are a danger, but going after our seniors who need every protection available, and our veterans who can best help defend the public when law enforcement is not on the scene

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  • James Hensley

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    I think that the Government Needs too stay Out of the We the People Business What happen to Our Freedom and when did we become a Commustict Country I spelled that word wrong anyways they always butt their agenda on Us We Free American’s this isn’t Korea , Or Germany, Or China this is Our Home Who are People thrusted together Who has Fought from the beginning of time until now that your going to take Our Freedom away FCK You and you can kis m awtsds

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  • steve b.

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    Hey Vector-agreed-I load my own and have been doing so for 20 years .Being a Bullseye Shooter I hit whatever I want to hit. Plenty of ammo . By the numbers I thought the majority of debt comes from unfunded debts and social programs.The Military and foreign aid amounts to a minority though I agree with you that any country that does not support us 100% can go to hell.

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  • vector16

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    Yup. Its not going to be a pretty picture. Over the last 7 years of this Kenyan’s rule he has done nothing that the people voted for and has only gone against the wishes of the American citizen. There has been a remarkable increase as to the amount of individuals that have been anti gun that are now new gun owners and CCW holders. I would add thought that most of these people do not have enough ammo to last more than a few seconds in a fire fight but never the less are still gun owners.

    I on the other hand would be able to last for at last for at least a few days or even a week in a full fledged fire fight unless I was killed my self. Everyone would run to the shores but the ones that have the training as myself and other vets would take the high ground, lakes , rivers, forest and deserts.

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  • Neal

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    I have long believed that the second American Revolution would be “triggered” by the government’s attempt to take the citizens’ firearms, as was the first.

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    • Maquis

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      @ Neal

      The First American Revolution, involved the British Empire. Just what Outside Source is going to Spark the Second American Revolution. If it’s an Inside Source, then it’s NOT the SECOND, but the FIRST.

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    • Jerry

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      @ Maquis.

      The east coast was part of the British Empire at the time. The next Revolution will be more of a Civil War. But sitting around talking about it wont make it happen.

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