You Make the Call: Gun-Phobic Professor Quits Over Campus Carry

By Dave Dolbee published on in Concealed Carry, General, News

Who would have thought that simply passing campus carry at a state university could have such an effect? Although my daughter won’t be going to college for at least a decade, Kansas University is looking pretty good. I carry, and want my children to have the same option whether at home or college. However, at least one Kansas professor disagrees. His open letter makes some rather outrageous claims to supporters of the Second Amendment.

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The Backstory

In 2013, the Kansas Legislature passed legislation allowing lawful gun owners to carry concealed handguns on all Kansas university campuses and in campus buildings, beginning July 1, 2017. In order to be in compliance with state law, the Kansas Board of Regents approved its new weapons policy on January 20, 2016. This policy applies to all Regents institutions, but allows each university to determine some specific ways to implement the policy on their campuses. The Regents asked KU and the other institutions to submit their policies by October 2016.

After eight months of work—headed by its university-wide Weapons Policy Advisory Committee and two campus implementation committees—KU submitted its draft weapons policy to the Regents on October 10. The Regents governance committee approved its policy at the November board meeting. The policy was approved by the full board December 14, 2016.

And the Professor Who Can’t Handle It

Jacob Dorman: Why I’m resigning from KU, an Open Letter

In light of the state of Kansas’ apparent determination to allow the concealed carry of firearms in the classrooms of the University of Kansas, I am writing to tender my resignation effective two weeks from today as an associate professor of history and American studies at the university. I have accepted a job in a state that bans concealed carry in classrooms.

I proudly served as a KU professor for a decade, from 2007 until 2017, and have a great deal of affection and gratitude to the university, Lawrence and the state of Kansas. Kansas is a great and beautiful state that is refreshingly different than the coasts. I have enjoyed getting to know Kansans from all parts of the state as my students, neighbors and friends, and I’ve especially benefited from getting to know Kansans from rural communities where gun ownership and hard work are equally a way of life. But Kansas will never secure the future that it deserves if it weakens its institutions of higher learning by driving off faculty members or applicants who feel as I do that there is no place for firearms in classrooms. Kansas can have great universities, or it can have concealed carry in classrooms, but it cannot have both.

Associate Professor Jason Dorman

Associate Professor Jason Dorman

In practical terms, concealed carry has proven to be a failure. Campus shootings have become all too frequent, and arming students has done nothing to quell active shooter situations because students do not have the training to effectively combat shooters and rightly fear becoming identified as suspects themselves. But beyond the fact that concealed carry does not deter gun violence, the citizens and elected representatives of Kansas must recognize that this is a small state, and in order to run a premier university, which is necessary for the health and wealth of the state, it must recruit professors from out of state. Recruiting the best trained professors necessarily means recruiting from coastal areas and progressive college towns where most people do not believe that randomly arming untrained students is a proper exercise of the Second Amendment’s protection of a well-regulated militia.

Moreover, we discuss sensitive and highly charged topics in my classroom, concerning anti-religious bias, racism, sexism, classism and many other indexes of oppression and discrimination. Students need to be able to express themselves respectfully and freely, and they cannot do so about heated topics if they know that fellow students are armed and that an argument could easily be lethal. Guns in the classroom will have a chilling effect on free speech and hinder the university’s mission to facilitate dialogue across lines of division. That stifling of dialogue will hurt all students, including the ones with guns in their pockets.

Let us not let the NRA destroy the future of the state of Kansas with a specious argument about the Second Amendment. Guns do not belong in classrooms any more than they belong in courtrooms, but a university simply cannot afford metal detectors at every entrance. Kansas faces a very clear choice: does it want excellent universities with world class faculty, or does it want to create an exodus of faculty like myself who have options to teach in states that ban weapons in classrooms? Does Kansas want to reinvent itself as a center of innovation and prosperity, and attract the minds that will create the jobs that the state needs to be prosperous for the 21st century, or does it want third-rate universities that will not find the cures, patent the drugs, train the engineers, start the companies, or innovate the laws and social programs that will bring the state lasting prosperity and health?

This is the truly concealed question that faces Kansas’ citizens and legislators in the concealed carry debate. I hope for the sake of the future of the great state of Kansas that its Legislature will make the right decision and take a stand against weapons in classrooms, and in favor of excellence in education.

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Conclusion

It is quite obvious the professor thinks quite highly of himself. Of course, how could Kansas, or any midwest state for that matter, ever hope to produce an intellectual of his caliber? “Recruiting the best trained professors necessarily means recruiting from coastal areas and progressive college towns…” And how about the absurd accusation that people cannot have an intelligent or honest conversation if there is the possibility of a student being armed? How many students are returning military with multiple combat tours? I mean, “randomly arming untrained students…” really? I suppose this means the people educated in coastal, ivy league universities are the product of schools that mold young minds instead of teaching them to actually think and reason for themselves.

You Make the Call

I’ll admit it; I’ve earned several degrees from a coastal schools, including some from liberal schools, including UCLA which Dorman also attended. However, before that, I did a couple of hitches in the military including time in the sandbox in the first Gulf War. So, what do you think? Should students be allowed to carry on campus? Is Prof. Dorman rightfully afraid to teach at KU, or just another gun hater? Was Thomas Jefferson correct when he said, “An armed society is a polite society” or would the potential presence of a firearm stifle open dialogue? Did the Jayhawks ranking just go up in your estimation?

Share your answers, as well as your opinion, on this this story and the author’s points in the comment section.

SLRule

Growing up in Pennsylvania’s game-rich Allegany region, Dave Dolbee was introduced to whitetail hunting at a young age. At age 19 he bought his first bow while serving in the U.S. Navy, and began bowhunting after returning from Operation Desert Shield/Desert Storm. Dave was a sponsored Pro Staff Shooter for several top archery companies during the 1990s and an Olympic hopeful holding up to 16 archery records at one point. During Dave’s writing career, he has written for several smaller publications as well as many major content providers such as Guns & Ammo, Shooting Times, Outdoor Life, Petersen’s Hunting, Rifle Shooter, Petersen’s Bowhunting, Bowhunter, Game & Fish magazines, Handguns, F.O.P Fraternal Order of Police, Archery Business, SHOT Business, OutdoorRoadmap.com, TheGearExpert.com and others. Dave is currently a staff writer for Cheaper Than Dirt!

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Comments (146)

  • Suddenimpact

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    Ok, I am going to come out of the closet on this one. I usually don’t discuss much of my private life in public but this has impact on me because of some of my past life. I am an ex adjunct college professor in 3 fields, business, criminal justice and information technology in Nevada. I am a CCW holder and believe strongly in the 2nd Amendment. In Nevada no school staff (except school police) or students are allowed to carry firearms on campus per state law. Strange thing is that Nevada is an “Open Carry” and “CCW” state. I know that public school teachers in the elementary thru high school divisions a few years back were asking the state to allow them to carry concealed weapons if they were licensed to carry. I guess the state shot that down (no pun intended). After seeing some of these kids that have been through the public system, I don’t blame the instructors for wanting to carry weapons. I think this Instructor (from Kansas University) is a little over the top on what his criteria is for wanting to resign. I will tell you….. that one day I was at one of the colleges I taught at (both colleges I taught at had criminal justice programs) and 2 students were running through the halls during a break with replica 9mm Berettas (they looked just like the real thing). I pinned myself up against a wall as they passed by. I then noticed blue paint marks on them. As soon as I saw they were fake, I stopped the students and asked what they were doing. They said they were working on a project for one of their classes and that their instructor knew what they were doing. I told a couple of instructors later what happened and their response basically was “You’ll get used to it”! I was standing there saying “GET USED TO IT, ARE YOU KIDDING ME”!

    In conclusion:

    I see both sides of the issue. As I stated before, I believe heavily in the 2nd Amendment but sometimes there needs to be some restrictions in certain instances. I don’t have the answer. I do believe that just about anything can occur anytime, it’s the world we live in now. I feel as though we are not safe anywhere, anymore.

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    • edbytes

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      Suddenimpact: Running through the halls with guns in your hand, real or not is absolutely the opposite of concealed carry. Restricting running through the halls with guns is fine but didn’t you for a least a moment wish that you had a gun when that happened?

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  • Mitch

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    The Professor looks like he needs a bullet proof bubble filled with Play Doh and crayons and therapy puppies…

    Wow… I see he is a Ph.D. from UCLA… I was thinking he got his credentials from a Cracker Jack box, because he registers at ZERO in the common sense department…

    He is fleeing FROM a campus that will be very secure TO a campus that is wide open in advertising that it is a gun free zone (I assume, but it’s Liberals, so the sign is probably entrenched in concrete)

    He might be going to the U. of Arizona, where a Snowflake professor there has proposed for students to say “Ouch” when offended, while the offender will say “Oops”… I’m sure the maniac shooter will obey those rules.

    I guess this snowflake believes he will be protected by the Police, who are understaffed in every single city on the planet… If his bubble isn’t bullet proof, and the Gun free zone is surrounded on 4 sides by 4 different Police precincts, not including campus police, the Police won’t get there fast enough if a maniac chooses that place, Period

    You have to remember, these geniuses are even against armed Police on campus, because even under tight control, they will have scary boom boom sticks…

    If a massive invasion of this country takes place, I hope the Liberals know how to run a washing machine and do dishes…

    The maximum effective range of what a Anti Gun Liberal says is ZERO meters, and it’s real difficult to prove otherwise

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  • Wood

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    yes let them carry,

    concealed means no one will know.

    Bad guys do it right up to the murder they commit

    I would rather be a sheep dog than a sheep

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  • Henry Lawrence

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    Dave, as you know I generally agree with you on gun ownership and concealed carry.
    However this time I side with Dorman.
    There’s no guarantee that every carrier has the proper training and license to carry.
    Students get agitated and can get reckless.
    T do think Dorman wimped out.

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    • Dave Dolbee

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      Henry,

      You wrote that “there is no guarantee that every carrier has the proper training and license to carry.”
      There is no guarantee of that now, without the law.

      “Students can get agitated and can get reckless” – Students can do that now. In fact, Penn State is going through an investigation where 18 were charged in the reckless death of a student over a hazing and alcohol incident. No guns were used, but the student is just as dead.

      In truth, Prof. Dorman’s assertions could happen anywhere in society, not just on a college campus. That is primarily because Prof. Dorman’s arguments are pure speculation and fear. They are not substantiated with any facts; never have I seen a fact-based report showing simply because someone was carrying on campus, that person or place was more dangerous than anywhere else in public.

      I am pushing 50 years old and just finished my Ph.D. Would I have been suddenly been less trained or responsible just because I was on campus? Would that same KU student suddenly be more trained or responsible simply because he or she stepped off campus? ~Dave Dolbee

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  • Casey charles

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    I think that the professor would be much happier in California or San Francisco. I’m sure that Kansas is better off without him.

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  • Bob

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    Let the shmuck go back to California.

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  • spk

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    His letter of resignation was well written, cogent (to the weak minded) and demonstrated a grasp of good grammar. Fortunately for me and many others his arguments against lawful carrying of a self defense product on a college campus don’t make a lick of sense. Just the possibility of someone in his class *might* have a weapon on them means that all reasonable opinions cannot be expressed? That is absurd. Not only is it absurd but it is demeaning and insulting to those students who are aware enough to educate themselves about owning and carrying a firearm. Just because I have a concealed firearm means I turn my brain off and fly off the handle at any moment? I don’t think so.

    Good riddance to bad trash. That’s a saying my Granny used to say when an undesirable left or was expelled from a group.

    I’m extremely glad Mr. Liberal Professor is going to his own nirvana: some hell hole of a coastal state university.

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  • G-Man

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    I have 4 words in honor of Kansas successfully forcing this scumbag elitist liberal progressive the hell out their State: IT’S A GOOD START.

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  • Deplorable Robert

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    As long as it is concealed carry, I believe it is DUTY to carry one, whether in a classroom at a college or the local Walmart, movie theater, diner, state park, ANYWHERE a person can go.
    By listening to this “professor”, we all realize he is a Liberal as one has come to expect of college educators. And as such, realize that guns frighten them. The facts he states are not truthful. Best t hing is its one less Liberal teaching( brainwashing) our youngstersl

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  • dprato

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    The first thing that comes to mind has nothing to do with firearms but the total disregard for the Constitution particularly the right to free speech. More and more Universities are trampling on the right of free speech by not permitting opposing views to theirs on College Campus’s. The hypocrisy of the left is very simple, anything we want is ok and anything you want is not OK. Has nothing to do with logic or common sense or the law but the attitude of we want what we want, when we want it and how we want it. It is a waste of time to engage these folks as you have noted in the Trump article. Best thing to do is to ignore them and stop spending your time in debate. It does no good whatsoever.

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