Law Professor Says “Time to Repeal and Replace that Second Amendment”

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Mary Margaret Penrose, a full-time professor of law with Texas A&M University in Fort Worth, has called for the full repeal of the Second Amendment, according to an article in the New Haven Register News in Connecticut.

Penrose made her comments an annual symposium put on by the Connecticut Law Review at University of Connecticut’s School of Law. The Symposium’s topic, “Up In Arms: The Second Amendment in the Modern Republic,” was selected by the Law Review’s membership and was held Friday, November 15, 2013 at William F. Starr Hall in Hartford.

She said she calls the Constitution an “obsolete” document in her classes, and said at the Symposium, “… Drastic times require drastic measures. I think the Second Amendment is misunderstood and I think it’s time today, in our drastic measures, to repeal and replace that Second Amendment.”

“The beauty of a ‘states’ rights model’ solution is it allows those of you who want to live in a state with strong restrictions to do so and those who want to live in a state with very loose restrictions to do so,” Penrose said.marymargaretpenrose

Connecticut’s Governor Dannel Malloy gave opening remarks. He told the audience of legal scholars and practitioners that Connecticut supports the constitutional right to own firearms but he says no right is without its limitations.

Malloy told the audience made up of legal scholars and practitioners that those who believe there should be no limitations on the second amendment are wrong.

Clayton E. Cramer, one of the other symposium panelists and an adjunct professor at the College of Western Idaho, said on his blog, “I am encouraged to report increasing evidence that gun control is an old white guy’s movement. The panelists at the symposium were generally either clearly pro-gun, or giving data that gave serious doubts as to either the need for or effectiveness of broad gun control laws.

“The most notable exception was Professor Penrose of Texas A&M,” Cramer said, “who argued that our Constitution is really suited to an 18th century world, not a 21st century world, and proposed amending the Constitution to repeal the Second Amendment and allow states to pass whatever gun control laws they wanted.”

 

 

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Comments (138)

  • Wzrd1

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    How fascinating! So, you are the only one permitted an opinion or free speech?!
    Any other rights you’d like to deny this recently retired veteran?

    As for getting a life, no thank you, I’m married.
    But, as far as my Constitution is concerned, I’ll take it in its entirety, the main body and all amendments. That includes the first and second amendments, thank you very much. It also includes the fourteenth amendment.

    I apologize for not returning your childish insult, but I’ll leave that for my grandchildren to do. You’ll fit right in.

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  • dragon slayer

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    yeah, i knew you couldnt let that zinger go mr. whizz turd…you think all the other people on this site arent tired of your personal tirades where you constantly contradick yourself???? well, i was on another site like this before and i got so tired of that whizz turd i just stopped going to that site. then, i went back to see if he was still on that site 6 months later and he was still yammering on just like you will be.so, i want to be the first to congradulate you on ruining this site. well, you dont really have to answer this comment if you are thinking about repairing your infantile b.s. sessions….im gone to another site until another guy like you wrecks that site too. so, on behalf of those people that used to enjoy this site before you ruined it….GET A LIFE!!!

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  • Wzrd1

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    Feel free to let me know what site it is, I’ll send my four year old grandchild along to keep you company.
    Though, I’ll admit, she is more literate than you and does tend to not use such infantile tirades and personal attacks.

    It’s strange though, I use reason and discuss the Constitution and how *all* have the same rights, you instead, seek to use personal insults, rights for yourself and no one else and are utterly incapable of utilizing our language in any rational manner.

    As for having a life, I’m retired military, retired after nearly 28 years of service. I’ve been married for over 32 years.
    Hence, I have no life worthy of speaking of, other than doing that which I spent so many decades doing, support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America, from enemies both foreign and domestic.
    For, while my term of service has expired upon retirement, my oath, my word of honor has never had an expiration date.

    So, do run away, rather than try communicating and using your words in preference to feeble slights. If I had “ruined this site”, I’m quite certain that the site owners would have either contacted me to ask me to not “ruin” it or they would have cancelled my account. Neither has happened, so I operate the principle of tacit consent.

    As an aside to other readers, I personally own a full dozen firearms. Two are home defense pistols, the rest are either competition firearms or hunting firearms (and one that is a historic “Saturday night special” that I inherited). I fire competitively in M9 and M1911, as well as M1A and AR15. I considered going into long distace competition, but my eyes aren’t as sharp as they once were and a Barrett would be a bit more abuse of already abused joints, so I discarded that notion.

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  • RPK

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    Wzrd1, you are at times openly insultive, provocative and incinderary. While that is your undisputed right, it is unnecessary if you are the Patriot you claim to be. I too am retired military from a combat MOS and have been married 35 years, and have 4 grandchildren. In the civilian world, all that and a dime will get you nothing short of “so what”. As for defending against enemies foreign and domestic, as you should know from your military experience, an enemy can be internal or external. Within and outside the borders. Wearing the uniform of an adversary or waiting in the shadows of your own unit. Within and outside the Government. To believe otherwise is a disservice to the oath we both accepted freely without mental reservation or purpose of evasion. sadly, within the past few years, recent history has shown this to be so. As for a radio, that is a tool to assist in denying an adversary the opportunity or will to over take friendlies. The most important weapon in the arsenal of a United States military member is undoubtedly common sense and the ability to think outside the box. To know when to fight or flee, to sound off or remain off the beaten path, to engage or withdrawal and return to win the battle another day. My comrage in arms, you are beating a drum falling on deaf ears. Withdraw and return to win another day. As they say, we may have lost the war…but, we won the battles! God Bless our brothers and sisters in uniform, past and present.

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  • Wzrd1

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    RPK, that is and has always been my method.
    I challenge others to be better by being so.

    You’ve done so in the following:
    “The most important weapon in the arsenal of a United States military member is undoubtedly common sense and the ability to think outside the box.”

    That and the inability to quit were prerequisites for our teams. Indeed, even for the award of our MOS.

    So, with that in mind, I’ll never concede the war, only the battle, grudgingly.
    But, never really ceding the battle.
    For, in some battles, one wins by attrition.

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  • Pete in Alaska

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    WOW, arnt we just the cultivated American group. Its hard to understand the direction these, to date, 135 comments starting on Nov 22, 2013 to today has taken. It seems we are now more concerned with spitting on each other over this and that and allowing the good Professoe a good laugh at our expense than to stay on track and message concerning the professors stated position.
    And a couple of thoughts ……
    > Wzrd1 – you don’t need a Barret to shoot long distance. A tactical .300 or .338 Lapua will do quite nicely even a .308, is easer on the pocket book, and as far as our old eyes go just get better optics for it. Its a pleasure to hear that “ting” on steel at 1000 meters or better.
    > RPK – wasn’t one of the reasons we served to protect the rights of all? Didn’t that include the protection to free speach and a persons right to their opinion even if we don’t agree with it? Perhaps I misunderstood what my oath encompassed.
    > Dragon Slayer – if your going to insist on not playing well with others and insist that what others may say is wrong if you don’t agree with it. I would suggest that you might study the Documents which provide us with our foundation of this nation and culture to gain a better understanding of where your thinking may be a bit off. Just a thought, don’t really expect you to do it but, one try’s to throw a life line to the lost when hey can
    If we continue to argue and. Do not find the common ground amoung ourselves then people such as the Professor gain validity and a greater voice on the backs of our discontent. Get a life?? We already have a pretty good one. Do you wanna keep it?? Then find the common ground, support it, profess it, share it, but please stop pissing on it. Just a thought, far be it from me to suggest another way to think.

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  • Wzrd1

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    @Pete, true enough for the smaller calibers, but .50BMG won’t ping that plate, it’ll go through it! ;)
    When I get the extra scratch, I’ll be getting a match grade M1A, with quality optics.
    Of course, before that, I’ll have my posterior lens capsule lasered, as my cataract surgery worked, but now that capsule is getting foggy. Oh well, the price one pays for suffering eye trauma…
    Won’t get to enjoy that ping on steel either, an IED dropped 45db from my hearing. :/

    Just as well, I far prefer precision shooting to simply striking a plate. :D

    Well, back to catching up with my mail, then off to shovel more wet snow.

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  • Pete in Alaska

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    wzrd1 – I started with a Barret .50, then built a custom .50 Single shot, research and competition rifle. Three years ago I got the Barret in .416, topped it with a Nightforce 8-32×56 NXS. This is a reach out and touch …. anything …. at distances that the .50 can only dream about. Your right about going thru the targets. I make targets out of 1.25 inch street plate now, they hold up a bit longer. Anything thinner acts more like heavy paper than steel. Nice sound too! I don’t shoot my .50′s much any more, .416 is way more fun and challenging. I lath my own projectiles for reloading. The .416 round remains supersonic at 2750 meters down range from the muzzel just to give you an idea at this munitions preformance. My mid range rifle is a Sako TRG-42 in .338 Lapua also topped with a Nightforce. Its consistant out to 1300 meters but I like it best in the 1100 to 1200 meter envelope and reload for that optimum range. For short range (under 900 meters) I built myself a .308 built out of a Tika, bull barrel, 600 series action. Slipped it into a MacMillian tactical stock and of course Night-force optics. This rifle is a true pleasure to shoot, is a tac driver and has win its share of range bets when someone is out to prove to there friends how good they are and puts out an open challenge. Ya gotta love the young blood, so much to prove! As you might suspect I’m single, and my checking account is my own so it allows me to indulge my passions perhaps a bit more than some.
    When your ready to tackle some distance shooting you let me know. Be pleased to help make that work for you. You stay frosty an get those eyes better. We can build you a .308, 30.06 or maybe a .300 WBM that will put you in the 9 ring at distance for a cost that won’t mean breaking into your savings or kids school fund! I’d be pleased to help. You stay in touch.

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